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May 7 2007, 03:17 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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I have come like many others on this site looking for informations about today computer hardware which is working with Windows 98.
To make future searches of many others easier to find solution I will here write names of "modern" MBO which support Windows 98. Conditions to enter this list are: 1) It is now in shops near you (not internet but in real shops) 2) MBO are supporting 2007 tehnology and Windows 98. INTEL: Socket 775 MBO which are supporting Core 2 Duo, SATA and Windows 98. ASRock 775i65G . Support E4300 - X6800. FSB is 1066 only with overclock which MBO support ECS P4M800Pro-M2, s775, VIA P4M800Pro, VGA (rev 2.0) .Support E4300 - E6700 and it is working with DDR II memory. Gigabyte GA-8I865GME-775-RH (rev. 2.0). Support E4300 - X6800 but FSB 800 AMD Today in shops near you it is ulmost impossible to find AM2 socket MBO which are supporting Windows 98. After looking very hard I have make this finding: MSI K9MM-V . MSI is writing how this MBO do not work with Windows 98 but they are giving drivers and instructions (how to connect hard drive) for this OS. It will be interesting to know if this MBO work or not ? MSI K9MMV is having only 1 IDE port so this can create small problems... CPU is supported until Athlon 64 x2 6000+ . DDR II and SATA are on MBO. ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA is not supporting Windows 98 but this MBO is made from Nvidia 3 chipset. ASRock is not giving drivers, but it is possible to download them from NVidia site. Question is if they will work ? MBO is working with DDR II and SATA. This MBO is supporting even Windows Vista. CPU are supported until Athlon 64 X2 ADX6000IAA6CZ If we look other AMD sockets it is possible to find MBO for socket 754. Because this is writen for today (2007) computer tehnology this list will stay very short: MSI K8MM3-V . It is supporting Turion until Turion 64 ML44. Of older processors on this MBO it will work Semprons until 3400+ (there are still in shops) Every month I will add 1 or more new MBO on this list. It will be very interesting if somebody test this 2 AM2 socket MBO motherboards and write if they work or not with Windows 98 This post has been edited by Rjecina: May 7 2007, 03:19 PM |
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May 10 2007, 01:08 PM
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tee Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 10-September 06 From: Singapore Member No.: 109938 OS: 98SE
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Hello There,
Afaik W98se seems to be running pretty well on my Asus M2V with Athlon 64 X2. See an earlier post (scroll way down) here:http://www.msfn.org/board/Cheap_AMD_PC_Windows_98_SE_t86587.html&pid=586532&mode=threaded&start= It's over 9 months now that W98se's been running fine on this Asus M2V/A64 X2 board and the board is still available in shops as of this writing (well here in Singapore at least). So you can add this board to your database of 2007 mobos that will run W98se. Generally it has been pointed out elsewhere on this forum that boards with Via chipsets best supports W98se, yes even in 2007. Of course check with Via for drivers before you buy - however their Hyperion 5.10a drivers was what I used for my W98se and it works. But new Nvidia mobos is a gigantic no-no as far as 98se is concerned. Hth Best Tee Charoen newbie since Nov06 |
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May 21 2007, 02:58 AM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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We will start today with bad news:
ASRock has droped from first page of web site MBO ASRock 775i65G. In near future we can expect lower number of this MBO in shops. Because of black situation for Windows 98 in future we can expect that only MBO in 2009 which we can buy that support this OS will be from Via so today I will write on this page about that. MBO of today is: EPIA CN 13000G C7 Mini-ITX Board. With that MBO buyer is recieving processor C7 1.3 Ghz and GPU. It is possible to connect on that MBO SATA or IDE hard drive and DDR II memory. With new games this MBO can have problems because processor C7 is bad in processor power, but good in low Watt usage. Chipset of MBO is Via CN700 and Windows 98 drivers is possible to download from Via website. |
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May 24 2007, 03:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 26-April 07 Member No.: 137194 OS: 98SE
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the intel motherboards mentioned so far seem to be of micro-atx form factor ...
are there any standard atx form factor motherboards still supporting 98se+agp+p4 available in north america? asrock seems good about this, but their boards are hard to find in the u.s. (for me, at least): + ConRoe865PE this one has (for 98se) unnecessary (4) ram slots + 775i48 this one seems perfect but i can't find it to buy (even online) in the u.s., anyone have better luck searching than me? + 775Dual-880Pro found this one at NewEgg, does it look okay (only $26 for some reason, makes me leery)? i'll get it if it does -- btw, need to use this cpu, will it work? + 775V88+ again, 4 ram slots + 775i65PE 4 ram slots + 775V88 4 ram slots This post has been edited by ananda6359: May 24 2007, 03:59 PM |
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May 25 2007, 02:55 AM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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About ASRock MBO:
I believe that 775i48 MBO is out of production. She is build around I848 chipset and that is too old. About other MBO I think that ConRoe865PE is best but... Good thing is that she support even x6800. Bad thing in my thinking is that she do not support: "CPU Overheat Shutdown to Protect CPU Life". This is my only reason against this MBO. If you look ASRock MBO that option is supported on 775i65G. Question which you must ask yourself if do you think to buy in future Core 2 Duo. If your answer is Yes then from ASRock list of MBO you must choose between ConRoe865PE and 775i65G (for Windows 98). If your answer is no then you can take other ASRock MBO. On your question about 775Dual-880Pro and Pentium 4 641 Cedar Mill 3.2GHz my answer is no. It is writen on web site that for example ConRoe865PE support this procesor but it is not writen that for 775Dual-880Pro so ..... |
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May 26 2007, 02:14 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Bulgaria Member No.: 110901 OS: 98SE
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ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA is not supporting Windows 98 but this MBO is made from Nvidia 3 chipset. ASRock is not giving drivers, but it is possible to download them from NVidia site. Question is if they will work ? MBO is working with DDR II and SATA. This MBO is supporting even Windows Vista. CPU are supported until Athlon 64 X2 ADX6000IAA6CZ Hi, Nice forums here! I'm curios, if this mobo work correctly under Windows 98SE too. The prices of DDR2 a down, so I'm willing to take advantage of DDR2 2x512 dual channel, as well as with the AM2 architecture (excluding HT - probably it can be disabled). It is available at low price in Bulgaria. I believe SATA won't be a problem, since it could be disabled in BIOS (in my particular case), or work in PATA compatible mode. I would like to use my AGP video card, as well. Don't know anything about its audio and LAN drivers under Win98SE. http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Mode...F3-VSTA&s=n Please, if anyone has any experience with that stuff, let it share! Thanks! This post has been edited by tonich: May 26 2007, 02:34 AM |
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May 26 2007, 06:18 AM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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With audio driver for ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA you will have problem.
AsRock has put on this MBO new audio chip so that he recieve right for Windows Vista logo. Because of that nvidia 3 drivers will not be OK ... If I do not make mistake all others nvidia 3 MBO are having 5.1 channel Audio This is having 7.1 channel audio. You must look on web if anybody is having drivers for this sound card and Windows 98 but .... |
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May 26 2007, 07:11 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Bulgaria Member No.: 110901 OS: 98SE
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Thanks, mate!
So it all means that I have to disable the build-in audio in bios, and spend some 7-8 dollars extra to buy a PCI one. Any ideas for the LAN and USB support? |
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May 27 2007, 01:04 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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Lan support will not be a problem. Chip on older MBO of nvidia3 (original drivers) has been :
Realtek 8201 10/100 PHY for 10/100 Mbps LAN On ASRock is: Realtek PHY RTL8201CL Speed: 10/100 Ethernet Number of chip is not changed so this is it ! USB must work!? It is not important which MBO you use. When you finish work on PC you must tell if everything has been without problems (like I expect). |
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May 27 2007, 07:01 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 140821 OS: XP Home
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Hello There, Afaik W98se seems to be running pretty well on my Asus M2V with Athlon 64 X2. See an earlier post (scroll way down) here:http://www.msfn.org/board/Cheap_AMD_PC_Windows_98_SE_t86587.html&pid=586532&mode=threaded&start= It's over 9 months now that W98se's been running fine on this Asus M2V/A64 X2 board and the board is still available in shops as of this writing (well here in Singapore at least). So you can add this board to your database of 2007 mobos that will run W98se. Generally it has been pointed out elsewhere on this forum that boards with Via chipsets best supports W98se, yes even in 2007. Of course check with Via for drivers before you buy - however their Hyperion 5.10a drivers was what I used for my W98se and it works. But new Nvidia mobos is a gigantic no-no as far as 98se is concerned. Best Tee Charoen newbie since Nov06 The M2V manual page 2-25 says "Install Windows XP Service Pack 1 or later versions when using Serial ATA drives." Can M2V run Win98SE from a SATA drive? How about an IDE boot drive with an SATA drive also attached? |
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May 28 2007, 08:01 AM
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MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1212 Joined: 13-April 05 From: USA (Cavendish, Co. Windsor, Vermont) Member No.: 51865 OS: none
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Hello There, Afaik W98se seems to be running pretty well on my Asus M2V with Athlon 64 X2. See an earlier post (scroll way down) here:http://www.msfn.org/board/Cheap_AMD_PC_Windows_98_SE_t86587.html&pid=586532&mode=threaded&start= It's over 9 months now that W98se's been running fine on this Asus M2V/A64 X2 board and the board is still available in shops as of this writing (well here in Singapore at least). So you can add this board to your database of 2007 mobos that will run W98se. Generally it has been pointed out elsewhere on this forum that boards with Via chipsets best supports W98se, yes even in 2007. Of course check with Via for drivers before you buy - however their Hyperion 5.10a drivers was what I used for my W98se and it works. But new Nvidia mobos is a gigantic no-no as far as 98se is concerned. Hth Best Tee Charoen newbie since Nov06 nForce Windows 98 support sucks! Even with supported nForce chipsets, expect crashes regularly! This post has been edited by RJARRRPCGP: May 28 2007, 08:02 AM |
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May 29 2007, 12:18 PM
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tee Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 10-September 06 From: Singapore Member No.: 109938 OS: 98SE
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To dspear,
>The M2V manual page 2-25 says "Install Windows XP Service Pack 1 or later versions when using Serial ATA >drives." Can M2V run Win98SE from a SATA drive? How about an IDE boot drive with an SATA drive also attached? Sorry, elaborating on my 98se setup on the M2V mobo, I used ide in preference over sata . The M2V still comes, thankfully, with the 2 std ide slots of yore. I read somewhere on this forum that getting 98se to run on sata disks is possible, and involves copying an image of 98se from an ide disk over to the sata disk... search this forum if you're keen to do it. Hth Tee Charoen Newbie since Nov 06 |
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May 30 2007, 03:31 AM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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Because there have been questions about AMD AM2 MBO after long looking I have find this:
Gygabyte GA-MF3 This is AM2 MBO with nvidia 3 chipset. She support processors until Athlon 64 FX-62 but ... GA-MF3 is working on FSB 800 (1600). All Athlons are working with FSB 1000 (2000) so they will work on this MBO with lower FSB and lower speed. On other side all AM2 Semprons are working with FSB 800 (1600) so with them everything is OK. Other information about MBO are standard: DDR 2 (until 667 Mhz) SATA AGP Gygabyte is giving only audio drivers for Windows 98 so all other must be taken from Nvidia site. |
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Jun 26 2007, 09:07 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 15-May 07 From: Andorra Member No.: 139421 OS: 98SE
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We will start today with bad news: ASRock has droped from first page of web site MBO ASRock 775i65G. In near future we can expect lower number of this MBO in shops. Yesterday I went to bought one mb for w98 and the only I find (in Micro-atx format)was it. It's really cheap 37€. First I was looking for Asus P5PE-VM but the shop where I saw on their web, told me that didn't know when could get one. (I also buy a cheap P4 3,2GHz to put on it). I disabled de HT on the bios but I can't boot in w98se, only in safe mode. Have to disabled something more?. I use a sata disk with w98 and XP from and old amd pc and Xp works perfect. I need to reinstall w98 from zero? EDITED Solved. I enabled the compatibility mode for SATA in the Bios and now I can boot on W98se. This post has been edited by Xavi11: Jun 27 2007, 12:41 AM |
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Jun 28 2007, 04:19 PM
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MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1212 Joined: 13-April 05 From: USA (Cavendish, Co. Windsor, Vermont) Member No.: 51865 OS: none
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With that MBO buyer is recieving processor C7 1.3 Ghz and GPU. It is possible to connect on that MBO SATA or IDE hard drive and DDR II memory. With new games this MBO can have problems because processor C7 is bad in processor power, but good in low Watt usage. Chipset of MBO is Via CN700 and Windows 98 drivers is possible to download from Via website. Yes, I agree! Via has been having better Windows 98 support! I never had a Via chipset be unstable with Windows 98. With the exception of Nvidia video cards, stay away from Nvidia! Even if the Nvidia chipset is officially supported, you still can have random reboots. |
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Jul 11 2007, 12:35 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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Has anybody tried Windows 98 on MBO with chipset VIA P4M900 ?
Because MBO on this chipset are with PCI Express nobody expect that they will work but ... MBO is having : Integrated VIA® Chrome9 HC Graphics, DirectX 9.0 VGA, Max. shared memory 256MB For this GPU you can download drivers on Via site (http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=6&CatID=1430). OK there you will not find drivers for P4M900 but for GPU on MBO CN896 VIA Chrome9™ integrated graphics and K8M890CE/K8N890CE Chrome9™ integrated graphics. All this GPU areChrome9™ so this need to work ?? I hope that somebody have will to test that and write on this site. All other drivers (chipset, ATA, SATA) for P4M900 is possible to download from Via site and they will work with Windows 98 SE if we believe to VIA. Gygabate and AsRock are having MBO around this chipset which is supporting Core 2 Duo. For the end I will say again this chipset is maybe working with Windows 98 SE and must important if it is working it is not possible to add graphic card !!!! |
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Jul 19 2007, 03:48 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 13-April 07 Member No.: 135474
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