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post Oct 18 2009, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (dencorso @ Oct 18 2009, 09:48 AM) *
And thanks for the heads up about SD cards, I didn't know that. BTW, was it a true SD or a SDHC card you used?


Yep smile.gif,and if I may unsure.gif, the report should be changed to
  • SD card partitioned/formatted as ....
  • through card reader make/model.....
  • card make/model/type..... size .....

I presume that not all card readers and not all kinds of partitioning/formatting will work (or will fail to work) - though I don't think that SD vs. SDHC may make a difference, if partitioned/formated in the "right" way and connected through a "right" reader.

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post Oct 18 2009, 11:39 AM
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That's not exactly the case, as we were referring to the built in card reader.

In any case it was a plane 2GB SD card, as far as I know.
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post Oct 18 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Sfor @ Oct 18 2009, 07:39 PM) *
That's not exactly the case, as we were referring to the built in card reader.

Sorry blushing.gif , I thought that this meant:
QUOTE (Sfor @ Oct 18 2009, 09:04 AM) *
The built in Alt-F2 update procedure does not support SD card USB devices. A pen drive is necesary.

that you were trying a USB SD card reader....

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In any case it was a plane 2GB SD card, as far as I know.

Yep, but was it partitioned or "superfloppy"? unsure.gif

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post Oct 18 2009, 12:30 PM
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The built in card reader is an USB device as well. It is possible to boot the system from it the same way as from other USB devices. The SD cards are treated by BIOS the same way as pen drives. So, they are mounted as hard drives, and can be partitioned. Still, the built in BIOS flash routine does not seem to be able to use it.

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QUOTE (Sfor @ Oct 18 2009, 08:30 PM) *
The built in card reader is an USB device as well. It is possible to boot the system from it the same way as from other USB devices. The SD cards are treated by BIOS the same way as pen drives. So, they are mounted as hard drives, and can be partitioned. Still, the built in BIOS flash routine does not seem to be able to use it.


Yep, now I understand what you were saying. smile.gif

I simply "visualized" in my mind a thingy like this one:




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post Oct 19 2009, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Oct 18 2009, 05:08 PM) *
I simply "visualized" in my mind a thingy like this one:
Which is quite understandable. In fact, the Eee PC is a strange beast because it offers 3 external USB ports, and a MMC/SD/SDHC card reader. But, internally, the card reader is connected through a dedicated USB port, which, in fact, is the "missing" fourth port, since USB ports always come in pairs. Stranger still is the fact that the internal Wi-Fi is also connected through another dedicated usb port. But the really awesome part is that there are still two more otherwise unused USB ports inside, that the more aventurous modders can recover with soldering iron, care and some good luck, as you can read here and here.
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QUOTE (dencorso @ Oct 19 2009, 12:08 PM) *
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Oct 18 2009, 05:08 PM) *
I simply "visualized" in my mind a thingy like this one:
Which is quite understandable. In fact, the Eee PC is a strange beast because it offers 3 external USB ports, and a MMC/SD/SDHC card reader. But internally, the card reader is connected through a dedicated USB port. Stranger still is the fact that the internal Wi-Fi is also connected through another dedicated usb port.


At the risk of going OFF TOPIC ph34r.gif, I guess that it could lead, in due time and with the hopefully coming of USB 3.0 speeds, to a revolution in the way PC's are made (not only netbooks).

I mean once we actually have a "really Universal" and "really Fast" BUS, a PC may become a "core" with CPU+a USB hub, to which you could attach any kind of device, including network card, video card, audio card and what not, a truly modular and easily upgradable solution.

Still off-topic, have a look at this interesting approach to PE portability newwink.gif:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5634

A PC in a foreseeable future may resemble a big USB hub to which you connect all your external devices.....

Now, REALLY off-topic, a crazy idea someone actually created:
http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm

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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Oct 19 2009, 08:57 AM) *
Now, REALLY off-topic, a crazy idea someone actually created: http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm

Great find, jaclaz! The fdd raid really deserves the trophy!
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QUOTE (dencorso @ Oct 10 2009, 10:56 PM) *
No.


Oh well. I was hoping we would see some action on this since the eeepcs (and most netbooks) are a known hardware set with mostly complete FOSS drivers to crib from. If we are to see Win98SE take center stage again for one last bow on modern hardware the netbook seems to me to be its best opportunity. If we could only get someone who has experience in writing drivers for the OS to look through the Win98 driver kit and hack away...

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The newer operating systems do have a significantly better power management abilities. So, Windows 98 is not a particulary good choice for mobile computers. I strongly doubt in it's ability to take the central stage.

Personaly, I'm preferring to use Xandros when working without the power adaptor, as it seems to work longer on the battery power. I'm using Windows 98 when I do have an external power attached, or when I need to troubleshoot some ethernet network related problems.
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