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> 98SE2ME = Killer Replacements: ME -> 98 SE, Updated August 12 2008
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE (AbyssHunted @ Jul 23 2007, 01:23 PM)
Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?
I have no idea why this happens on your computer, never happened on anybody else's as far as I'm aware.

Could you please post here the autoexec.bat code and the exact messages [file names, if any] you see upon every boot?
If I could see it, maybe I can try to fix it.

Thanks in advance.
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:14 AM
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QUOTE (BPoller @ Jul 24 2007, 06:00 AM)
Did anyone tranlated 98SE2ME into german already...

If there is no offically posted german version, i would like to try it myself...

Beeing my first posting here, i also want to say hello and wish to join your group of Win98SE-is-still-alive fans.
Welcome to MSFN forums BPoller, and I hope you find something useful here.

To my knowledge, nobody so far translated 98SE2ME into German.
If you have the time, please do.
All you need is here, in this small ZIP:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/INNOFILE.ZIP
Unzip, and then read INNOFILE.TXT.
In case you need to view 98SE2ME ReadMe 1st:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

If you wish to translate/update/modify/recompile 98SE2ME HTML Help file (98SE2ME.CHM), you need:
- MS HTML Help SDK 1.4 (free):
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#HHS
- 98SE2ME.CHM HTML source files [258 KB, ZIPped]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/982MECHM.ZIP

Also, if you'd like to translate the main Inno Setup BMP logo, here are the fonts you may want to use [small ZIP]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/TREKFONT.ZIP

Greatly appreciate your time and concern.

Best wishes.
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post Jul 25 2007, 06:02 AM
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Hi,

one more question (also it might be unnecessary):

Is there a freeware dos tool, with which i can compare the version number of 2 same-named Microsoft files?

For example:
If already some patches are installed (e.g. with DirectX 9.0c), some of the ME files would be out of date.
It would be great, if there is a dos tool (with return code) which compares 2 files, saying which version is newer. I dont believe, just watching the date code is enough.


Thanks,
Bjoern
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post Jul 25 2007, 07:27 AM
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If by DOS tools you meant tools you can use from within a DOS box inside Windows [not native MS-DOS outside Windows], this is what you need [free GPL]:
http://lbrisar.htmlplanet.com/e_cmd32.html#getver

I use GETVER.EXE in 98SE2ME, just use it from the C:\9!M directory after you have installed 98SE2ME.EXE [do not need to install any options, press N at the first screen during install]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4

HTH
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post Jul 25 2007, 12:52 PM
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Can you add Winpop and all its files?
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 13 2007, 08:28 PM) *
I have removed GDI*.* 4.90.3003 from 98SE2ME and reverted back to GDI*.* 4.90.3002 because of this problem [from UPDATES.TXT, the 8-22-2006 update]:
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* Options 1 + 2: replaced newer WinME GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE 4.90.3003 from
unofficial WinME Q918547 MS06-026 security fix with older GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE
4.90.3002 from unofficial WinME Q912919 hotfix:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU
to avoid power management errors. [thank you PROBLEMCHYLD]
But if you determine that those files [4.90.3003] work ok on your Win98 SE computer, please feel free to install them any way you want.

I have added those "extremely important" warnings because I was notified by soporific that some people try to install an update twice [I have no idea why], without rebooting after the 1st install. So with some updates [exe installers created with iexpress] that actually deletes the original files, effectively locking up the OS after reboot, because those updates rename the original system file(s) in order to back them up, but fail to install the new ones 2nd time over.
I've also added a reboot message that pops up at end of install, for same purpose.


Thanks for this explanation MDGx. I was being over-cautious in my concern about the consequences of replacing the GDI files via DOS.

As it happens, I did replace (via DOS) the 4.90.3002 versions of those files with the 4.90.3003 versions. So far I have experienced no problems, but I'll bear in mind the power management issues PROBLEMCHYLD experienced.

QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 13 2007, 08:28 PM) *
You are right, there are no USER*.* files to protect you from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, if using WinME.
I am waiting to see if the anonymous author decides to fix those WinME files, that's why I haven't removed them yet from 98SE2ME.


Here's hoping he does. Is the anonymous author still around? More to the point, is he still interested in 9x? Haven't seen any word from him on these boards for a while.
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:43 PM
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I recently installed CutePDF Writer (the freeware version):

http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

on a fully-patched 98SE2ME (option 2) system, and found that the installation updated two system files to WinME versions:

PSMON.DLL: 4.10.1998 to 4.90.3000
PSCRIPT.DRV: 4.10.2222 to 4.90.3000

Both CutePDF and these files seem to be working fine, so far. Is there any reason you know for why these ME files are not included in 98SE2ME?

TIA.
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post Jul 25 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (PROBLEMCHYLD @ Jul 23 2007, 02:11 PM) *
I counted over 800 files including option 3

I have counted 827 files including option 3
anyone care to challenge this count?

This post has been edited by Hu$tle: Sep 16 2007, 04:28 PM
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post Jul 25 2007, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 25 2007, 06:03 AM) *
QUOTE (AbyssHunted @ Jul 23 2007, 01:23 PM)
Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?
I have no idea why this happens on your computer, never happened on anybody else's as far as I'm aware.

Could you please post here the autoexec.bat code and the exact messages [file names, if any] you see upon every boot?
If I could see it, maybe I can try to fix it.

Thanks in advance.


Unfortunately, the hard disk for that computer has failed since I wrote that, and I can't access anything on it.
Worse off, I've bricked the CD drive, so I can't reinstall Windows and 98SE2ME to recreate the file, unless I can somehow network install from DOS....
Fortunately, I do remember the message displayed:

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ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER.EXE
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB [some + and - params I forgot] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI.EXE
1 file(s) copied
Path not found: C:\98S2M
0 file(s) copied


also, the actual AUTOEXEC.BAT had a bunch of "@IF EXIST filename COPY filename"statements ,
except on the last line where it said something like "@IF EXIST C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT" (not sure I have the right batch file - I might have been 5 instead of 2, and there may have been two lines like that).
I remember that the autoexec had 13 or so total statements in it, all related to 98SE2ME.

Finally, I had tried a step-by-step confirmation boot, and I was able to boot without any noticable side effects by skipping the execution of AUTOEXEC.
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post Jul 26 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (AbyssHunted @ Jul 25 2007, 08:34 PM)
also, the actual AUTOEXEC.BAT had a bunch of "@IF EXIST filename COPY filename"statements ,
except on the last line where it said something like "@IF EXIST C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT" (not sure I have the right batch file - I might have been 5 instead of 2, and there may have been two lines like that).
I remember that the autoexec had 13 or so total statements in it, all related to 98SE2ME.

Finally, I had tried a step-by-step confirmation boot, and I was able to boot without any noticable side effects by skipping the execution of AUTOEXEC.
Sounds like your HD was in the middle of crashing [bad sectors ?], that's why the 98SE2ME "customized" autoexec.bat didn't get deleted after reboot [as it was meant to], and replaced with the original one (if any).

The error messages involving "C:\9!M not found" were due to the fact that you have uninstalled 98SE2ME from C:\9!M [probably after you finished installing 98SE2ME].
All batch files that install 98SE2ME options depend on the files from the C:\9!M folder to work properly.
And like you said, if those files were not found, no harm was done to your system.

Sorry to hear about your troubles, and I hope that after you get your HD back [or a new one], you will be able to test 98SE2ME again, without problems this time.

HTH
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post Jul 26 2007, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (bristols @ Jul 25 2007, 05:43 PM)
...... the installation updated two system files to WinME versions:

PSMON.DLL: 4.10.1998 to 4.90.3000
PSCRIPT.DRV: 4.10.2222 to 4.90.3000

Both CutePDF and these files seem to be working fine, so far. Is there any reason you know for why these ME files are not included in 98SE2ME?

TIA.
Thanks for your feedback.

No reason, just never crossed my mind those files could make any difference.
Sounds like CutePDF installs the Post Script driver for compatible printers [?], that's why it needs those 2 files, and obviously you do have such a printer.

I'll do some tests, and eventually add them to 98SE2ME one of these days.

Thanks.
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post Aug 11 2007, 10:59 PM
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I'm working on inserting 98SE2ME into an unattended disc, but I just had a quick question - is it totally impossible to integrate option 3 with all the others without a reboot in between? If so, out of interest, why is that?

Thanks,

Wrayal
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post Aug 12 2007, 08:06 AM
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Hy! I am guy that tested all the packs and all the stuff that exist on this forum and i can say that 98se2me it's very unstable, the explorer crashes very fast and it slows the computer, all the revelation packs are the same, very unstable. The best thing is Unoficial SP2 for win98. That's all i can say.
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post Aug 12 2007, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (Xstyle @ Aug 12 2007, 04:06 PM) *
Hy! I am guy that tested all the packs and all the stuff that exist on this forum and i can say that 98se2me it's very unstable, the explorer crashes very fast and it slows the computer, all the revelation packs are the same, very unstable. The best thing is Unoficial SP2 for win98. That's all i can say.


Depends how do you have applied these packs.
Never had particular problems with all packs in this board, except windows explorer patch to 256 colors and few things.
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post Aug 12 2007, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Max_04 @ Aug 12 2007, 09:09 AM) *
QUOTE (Xstyle @ Aug 12 2007, 04:06 PM) *
Hy! I am guy that tested all the packs and all the stuff that exist on this forum and i can say that 98se2me it's very unstable, the explorer crashes very fast and it slows the computer, all the revelation packs are the same, very unstable. The best thing is Unoficial SP2 for win98. That's all i can say.


Depends how do you have applied these packs.
Never had particular problems with all packs in this board, except windows explorer patch to 256 colors and few things.


I installed them like the book....but still explorer crashes.
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post Aug 12 2007, 08:34 AM
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Another problem: i have a cable internet conection PPPoe and after the 98se2me instalation my conection can't conect to the internet. So? How can i fix this?
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