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Blueray or HDDVD?
Blueray or HDDVD?
Blueray [ 29 ] ** [42.65%]
HDDVD [ 39 ] ** [57.35%]
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bonestonne
post Jan 28 2007, 06:17 PM
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blue ray disk 100% of the way..from the capacity to already having HD support already. also, although its made by sony [i see that some people have something against sony here] its going to be a much better altoghter...despite the fact that it wont be public for at least another few months, if i asked a person who works at my school to make a post for it, he'd just go on and on about the advatages...why go fo HD only, when you could get bluray, which is also HD...not to mention the PS3 is bluray...i doubt you'll see a game system that uses HD...
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post Jan 28 2007, 09:26 PM
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HD-DVD because they will have porn! thumbup.gif

Just kidding (kinda). i actually won't be getting either until i upgrade my tv and sound system, because if not, high def content isn't worth it. I'll wait till the war ends, I'm not picking a side.
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post Jan 29 2007, 12:22 AM
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HD DVD!

-It's not from the nice folks who brought us rootkits on audio CDs, millions of exploding batteries and overpriced consoles (vote with your wallet!)
-It's not yet another Sony-proprietary format that's bound to die (like BetaMax, MiniDisc, UMD, Memory Stick, ATRAC, PDD, etc)
-Blu-Ray has more evil DRM: BD+ (which isn't broken yet)
-There are FAR more set top HD DVD players than Blu-Ray ones (120000 vs 25000 last I've heard, about 5:1!)
-Blu-Ray uses Java for menus (programs!) vs iHD (simple markup, much like HTML) for HD DVD (alright, call it HDi or Advanced Navigation if you want), which is far simpler (you could make menus using notepad - if you can make web pages you can use this too), is fully documented (even stuff on MSDN) along with simulation tools and all. iHD is also cheaper. Java would require you to learn programming first (and movie studios to hire programmers), or to write some parser/interpreter in Java for some other format (slow) and such. *WAY* more complicated. Bad idea overall. And let's hope things aren't like for cell phones, where every J2ME JVM seems to have differences that makes stuff not work on 2 models, forcing them to release different versions of the same movie for different players (or spending lots of time getting your menus to work on every player). It's a VeryBadIdea™. Oh, wait, there's already problems with BDJ? Colour me surprised newwink.gif
-Authoring tools for Blu-Ray were quite late (requiring drastic changes).
-HD DVD is WAY cheaper. Set top players are cheaper. In both cases, you can settle for a gaming console (if you want to be stuck with one of those) which still costs more than a set top HD DVD player. That's assuming you already have a nice and expensive HDTV. But what if you'd like to enjoy the HD goodness on your modern PC which already has a nice monitor and great sound? Just buy a drive! A Blu-Ray drive will set you back like 700$ or so, whereas you could have bought the XBOX 360 external drive for like 150$ over the holidays, and plug it using USB to your PC, and you'd already be watching HD DVDs. You're not going to find anything cheaper than that (very little investment to get HDTV goodness). Blu-Ray media is also more expensive.
-Early Blu-Ray players had image/quality problems and had pretty bad reviews (not sure they're much better now either)
-Not only Blu-Ray had bad player reviews/problems at first, and now BDJ problems, but their initial titles weren't using VC1 or H.264, and the image quality was worse than HD DVD titles released at the same time.
-HD DVD already has more than enough space as it is. In H.264 you can already comfortably fit a movie in 720p on a regular DVD (even on the single layer ones). Even in 1080p (still using VC1 or H.264) you still have way more space than one needs on HD DVD. It's already borderline overkill. More than that is just a waste (as far as movies are concerned)
-no pr0n on Blu-Ray

Why would anyone want to support a very expensive, problematic, overly complicated format that has more DRM - coming from Sony nonetheless (hence will likely be dead a a couple years anyways)? I don't know!

Blu-Ray is already dead newwink.gif
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post Jan 29 2007, 04:15 AM
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IMO, HDDVD, as nothing from Sony ever lasts tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2007, 11:20 AM
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None of them. It is yet to be seen if any of these two recordable medias will become affordable (and reliable). Right now my choice is Verbatim DVD+R.

(Movies? What movies?)
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post Jan 31 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (j7n @ Jan 30 2007, 12:20 PM) *
None of them. It is yet to be seen if any of these two recordable medias will become affordable (and reliable). Right now my choice is Verbatim DVD+R.

(Movies? What movies?)

haha, u gotta love those 100 packs from newegg. best media out there!
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post Feb 6 2007, 04:28 PM
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Not making that leap untill they adopt wich tech to go with. realmad.gif If you go out and buy blu-ray it might not be here in two years and vice versa.
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post Oct 25 2007, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (SiMoNsAyS @ Jul 11 2006, 07:42 PM) *
what about none, at least until the war ends.


none for me as well.
even when the war ends I'll be slow in changing.
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post Oct 31 2007, 09:58 AM
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I haven't seen either in action, but I pick Bluray because I used to work for Sony.
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post Nov 1 2007, 09:33 AM
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$100 hddvd players at walmart starting Friday. I hope this buries bluray.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/toshiba...riday-wal-mart/
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post Nov 17 2007, 08:38 PM
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I dont care. I wont be buying either.

But Ill vote HD-DVD smile.gif
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post Nov 26 2007, 10:49 AM
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HD-DVD took a serious blow with the release of the Transformers movie when it was revealed that they did not have enough space on the disc to put in HD audio, so it only has 5.1 audio instead of 7.1.
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post Dec 29 2007, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Toontwnca @ Oct 25 2007, 05:38 PM) *
QUOTE (SiMoNsAyS @ Jul 11 2006, 07:42 PM) *
what about none, at least until the war ends.

none for me as well.
even when the war ends I'll be slow in changing.

Same here :S Sometimes I'd go by what CNET says. Tnx for the link gamehead200..smile.gif

Holy cow what an old topic :F

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post Jan 8 2008, 06:41 AM
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I prefer BluRay because it has higher capacity than HD-DVD, but the only flaw about BluRay is the regional incompatibility crap.
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post Jan 15 2008, 08:49 AM
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If I am not mistaken, Blu-Ray is winning this war?

I heard that there is only a few company left in the HD-DVD boat so it is only a matter of time before thoses exclusive titles are available to Blu-Ray.

Also, there are report in the states that there is 2 Blu-Ray player for 1 HD-Dvd sold to consumers (the PS3 is helping out).

Last thing to know, Blu-Ray burner are available for PC since 1 year now. HD-Dvd burner? Yet to be seen...
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post Jan 15 2008, 11:13 AM
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The war is not over yet.

Toshiba is cutting prices on HD DVD again. This is either a huge liquidation sale, or they're sending another wave of price cuts to compete.
Its best to wait and see what's up before making a decision. Unless you have money to burn. In which case go for it. HD-DVD and BluRay.
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post Jan 15 2008, 05:33 PM
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HD DVD died the minute that Warner Brothers (the only dual format supporter) decided to drop support for HD DVD. With only 2 out of the big 6 studios left with HD DVD, it's only a matter of time before BluRay becomes the dominant format. It would be interesting to reset the poll in this thread and see what opinions are like now.
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