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Jan 28 2007, 06:17 PM
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#21
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Friend of MSFN ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 774 Joined: 27-July 05 Member No.: 66257 OS: XP Pro x64
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blue ray disk 100% of the way..from the capacity to already having HD support already. also, although its made by sony [i see that some people have something against sony here] its going to be a much better altoghter...despite the fact that it wont be public for at least another few months, if i asked a person who works at my school to make a post for it, he'd just go on and on about the advatages...why go fo HD only, when you could get bluray, which is also HD...not to mention the PS3 is bluray...i doubt you'll see a game system that uses HD...
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Jan 28 2007, 09:26 PM
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iPod therefore iHappy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1290 Joined: 13-August 03 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 5736
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HD-DVD because they will have porn!
Just kidding (kinda). i actually won't be getting either until i upgrade my tv and sound system, because if not, high def content isn't worth it. I'll wait till the war ends, I'm not picking a side. |
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Jan 29 2007, 12:22 AM
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Coffee Aficionado ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2843 Joined: 14-July 04 From: Coffeeland Member No.: 24596 OS: Vista Ultimate x86
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HD DVD!
-It's not from the nice folks who brought us rootkits on audio CDs, millions of exploding batteries and overpriced consoles (vote with your wallet!) -It's not yet another Sony-proprietary format that's bound to die (like BetaMax, MiniDisc, UMD, Memory Stick, ATRAC, PDD, etc) -Blu-Ray has more evil DRM: BD+ (which isn't broken yet) -There are FAR more set top HD DVD players than Blu-Ray ones (120000 vs 25000 last I've heard, about 5:1!) -Blu-Ray uses Java for menus (programs!) vs iHD (simple markup, much like HTML) for HD DVD (alright, call it HDi or Advanced Navigation if you want), which is far simpler (you could make menus using notepad - if you can make web pages you can use this too), is fully documented (even stuff on MSDN) along with simulation tools and all. iHD is also cheaper. Java would require you to learn programming first (and movie studios to hire programmers), or to write some parser/interpreter in Java for some other format (slow) and such. *WAY* more complicated. Bad idea overall. And let's hope things aren't like for cell phones, where every J2ME JVM seems to have differences that makes stuff not work on 2 models, forcing them to release different versions of the same movie for different players (or spending lots of time getting your menus to work on every player). It's a VeryBadIdea™. Oh, wait, there's already problems with BDJ? Colour me surprised -Authoring tools for Blu-Ray were quite late (requiring drastic changes). -HD DVD is WAY cheaper. Set top players are cheaper. In both cases, you can settle for a gaming console (if you want to be stuck with one of those) which still costs more than a set top HD DVD player. That's assuming you already have a nice and expensive HDTV. But what if you'd like to enjoy the HD goodness on your modern PC which already has a nice monitor and great sound? Just buy a drive! A Blu-Ray drive will set you back like 700$ or so, whereas you could have bought the XBOX 360 external drive for like 150$ over the holidays, and plug it using USB to your PC, and you'd already be watching HD DVDs. You're not going to find anything cheaper than that (very little investment to get HDTV goodness). Blu-Ray media is also more expensive. -Early Blu-Ray players had image/quality problems and had pretty bad reviews (not sure they're much better now either) -Not only Blu-Ray had bad player reviews/problems at first, and now BDJ problems, but their initial titles weren't using VC1 or H.264, and the image quality was worse than HD DVD titles released at the same time. -HD DVD already has more than enough space as it is. In H.264 you can already comfortably fit a movie in 720p on a regular DVD (even on the single layer ones). Even in 1080p (still using VC1 or H.264) you still have way more space than one needs on HD DVD. It's already borderline overkill. More than that is just a waste (as far as movies are concerned) -no pr0n on Blu-Ray Why would anyone want to support a very expensive, problematic, overly complicated format that has more DRM - coming from Sony nonetheless (hence will likely be dead a a couple years anyways)? I don't know! Blu-Ray is already dead |
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Jan 29 2007, 04:15 AM
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Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1187 Joined: 17-June 05 From: UK Member No.: 60869 OS: XP Pro x86
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IMO, HDDVD, as nothing from Sony ever lasts
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Jan 30 2007, 11:20 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 18-December 06 Member No.: 118823
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None of them. It is yet to be seen if any of these two recordable medias will become affordable (and reliable). Right now my choice is Verbatim DVD+R.
(Movies? What movies?) |
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Jan 31 2007, 10:18 PM
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The Hardware Guy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6113 Joined: 23-December 04 From: Rochester, New York Member No.: 39158 OS: Vista Ultimate x64
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Feb 6 2007, 04:28 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 26-November 06 Member No.: 116688
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Not making that leap untill they adopt wich tech to go with.
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Oct 25 2007, 10:38 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 16-October 07 From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Member No.: 158466 OS: XP Pro x86
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Oct 31 2007, 09:58 AM
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K-Mart-ian Legend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1159 Joined: 28-April 06 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 94953 OS: Server 2008 x64
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I haven't seen either in action, but I pick Bluray because I used to work for Sony.
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Nov 1 2007, 09:33 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 14-March 07 Member No.: 131040 OS: none
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$100 hddvd players at walmart starting Friday. I hope this buries bluray.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/toshiba...riday-wal-mart/ |
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Nov 17 2007, 08:38 PM
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͏͏͏ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1028 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 83402 OS: none
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I dont care. I wont be buying either.
But Ill vote HD-DVD |
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Nov 26 2007, 10:49 AM
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K-Mart-ian Legend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1159 Joined: 28-April 06 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 94953 OS: Server 2008 x64
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HD-DVD took a serious blow with the release of the Transformers movie when it was revealed that they did not have enough space on the disc to put in HD audio, so it only has 5.1 audio instead of 7.1.
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Dec 29 2007, 10:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 29-October 05 Member No.: 78122 OS: XP Pro x86
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Jan 8 2008, 06:41 AM
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Trance & Hardstyle Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 490 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Australia Member No.: 83688 OS: XP Pro x64
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I prefer BluRay because it has higher capacity than HD-DVD, but the only flaw about BluRay is the regional incompatibility crap.
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Jan 15 2008, 08:49 AM
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Slowly Turning Green... Group: Moderator Posts: 1303 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Quebec City Member No.: 15410
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If I am not mistaken, Blu-Ray is winning this war? I heard that there is only a few company left in the HD-DVD boat so it is only a matter of time before thoses exclusive titles are available to Blu-Ray. Also, there are report in the states that there is 2 Blu-Ray player for 1 HD-Dvd sold to consumers (the PS3 is helping out). Last thing to know, Blu-Ray burner are available for PC since 1 year now. HD-Dvd burner? Yet to be seen... |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:13 AM
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n00b ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 893 Joined: 21-August 06 Member No.: 108167 OS: Server 2008 x64
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The war is not over yet.
Toshiba is cutting prices on HD DVD again. This is either a huge liquidation sale, or they're sending another wave of price cuts to compete. Its best to wait and see what's up before making a decision. Unless you have money to burn. In which case go for it. HD-DVD and BluRay. |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:33 PM
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MSFN Master Group: Software Developers Posts: 2395 Joined: 14-August 04 From: Joliette, QC Member No.: 27580 OS: XP Pro x86
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HD DVD died the minute that Warner Brothers (the only dual format supporter) decided to drop support for HD DVD. With only 2 out of the big 6 studios left with HD DVD, it's only a matter of time before BluRay becomes the dominant format. It would be interesting to reset the poll in this thread and see what opinions are like now.
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