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Driver Packs for Windows 95,98/98SE,ME, please suggest your drivers for inclusion in the packs

joe tweaker View Member Profile	Sep 26 2007, 03:56 AM Post #21
Junior Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Irving, Texas Member No.: 155389 OS: 98SE	QUOTE (soporific @ Sep 26 2007, 03:29 AM) 1) Nothing is too old. In fact, the older the better as long as it is genuinely used on a current Win98se system (or one that could possibly be resurrected), and it is not natively supported in Win98se. 2) i would go with what the manufacturer says -- if they reckon 2.17 is the latest driver, then that's the one you post a link to. I am on a mission but this mission isn't to give everyone the very latest driver, its to simply get the hardware to work. I don't recall 98SE finding a native driver for this graphics card, but it's been a while since I installed 98SE. I bought the card around 1999-2000, so it may be newer than 98SE, but not by much. <g> It seems they don't have 2.17 on the ASUS site any more, or if it is there I'm not able to find it. However, I did find 6.31c and 31.40H, so I will test what they have, and post my results with a link (probably tomorrow). PS You are still the man! <g>

soporific View Member Profile	Sep 26 2007, 09:45 AM Post #22
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	OK, now we immediately run into the "duplicate files" problem ... we can't just dump every single file into the one directory there are bound to be files with the same name that are completely different and the right version needs to be present for the driver to work (we have to assume this). So, i would still like to be in more control of the INF files, then we can just use C:\D1;C:\D2;C:\D3 and so on, instead of C:\Windows\Setup\D1;C:\Windows\Setup\D2;C:\Windows\Setup\D3; and so on. We will run out of string space very quick. But we are fine for now. The list so far: SiS 530 SiS 6326 Trident Blade XP-T64 All ATI cards that are supported in the Catalyst drivers package for Win9x (which is heaps, i will post a list soon) This post has been edited by soporific: Sep 26 2007, 10:42 AM

joe tweaker View Member Profile	Sep 26 2007, 03:13 PM Post #23
Junior Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Irving, Texas Member No.: 155389 OS: 98SE	QUOTE (soporific @ Sep 26 2007, 03:29 AM) I would go with what the manufacturer says -- if they reckon 2.17 is the latest driver, then that's the one you post a link to. I am on a mission but this mission isn't to give everyone the very latest driver, its to simply get the hardware to work. If we give them the latest driver, that's a bonus. I found an ASUS mirror that still has version 2.17 here: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/asu...400/3400drv.exe I still haven't tested the newer drivers yet. On ASUS website if you choose 'show all drivers' it says 31.40H works with 98/SE/ME, but if you choose 'show only drivers for 9x' it only shows 6.31c. I think this is the reason I originally stayed with 2.17. I know 2.17 works. And their website is as clear as mud.

8prime8 View Member Profile	Sep 26 2007, 09:24 PM Post #24
Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 26-September 07 Member No.: 156290 OS: XP Home	I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro I purchased new in early 2000. Here is a download link for the driver package. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2...R1284137192.exe Thanks.

soporific View Member Profile	Sep 29 2007, 01:57 AM Post #25
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	This is it so far. They aren't any use until i release the upcoming version of UBCD but i thought you might like to see the progress ... I've tested the ATI drivers and my 9800 series Radeon was found and installed fine. I also have a NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 i can test on and so i can at least confirm the system works for the majority of major brand cards! The other issue i've come across is that some modern systems need a hardware update otherwise you can't run the rest of UBCD when the desktop first loads until you install the system drivers in particular the drivers for your system bus. So i'll need to do a pack for these as well. Here's the list: Index for the Video Driver Pack for Windows 98se v1.00 __________________________________ DP_Graphics1.exe 5.35 MB ATI Radeon 9800 series ATI Radeon 9700 series ATI Radeon 9600 series ATI Radeon 9500 series ATI Radeon 9200 series ATI Radeon 9100 series ATI Radeon 9000 series ATI Radeon 8500 series ATI Radeon 7500 series ATI Radeon 7200 series ATI Radeon 7000 series ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series and all "All-In-Wonder" variants of the every ATI Radeon series family above. SiS 530 Trident Blade XP-T64 __________________________________ DP_Graphics2.exe 3.4 MB SiS 315 SiS 6326 ATi Rage 128 ATi Rage 128 Pro __________________________________ DP_Graphics3.exe 13.9 MB NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce3 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5100 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300 NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750 NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache™ NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache™ NVIDIA GeForce 6500 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6600 VE NVIDIA GeForce 6610 XL NVIDIA GeForce 6700 XL NVIDIA GeForce 6800 NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XE NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT NVIDIA GeForce 7025 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PV NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7600 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7650 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX v2 NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 v2 NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EX NVIDIA Quadro2 Pro NVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL NVIDIA Quadro DCC NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI NVIDIA Quadro FX 350 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2 NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 540 NVIDIA Quadro FX 550 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 560 NVIDIA Quadro FX 700 NVIDIA Quadro NVS NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCI NVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI NVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8X NVIDIA Quadro PCI-E Series This post has been edited by soporific**: Sep 29 2007, 02:27 AM

galahs View Member Profile	Oct 1 2007, 07:46 AM Post #26
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 368 Joined: 1-December 05 Member No.: 81356	What about 3dfx cards Voodoo Voodoo Rush Voodoo 2 Voodoo Banshee Voodoo 3 Voodoo 4 & 5 Drivers can be found here: http://www.falconfly.de/3dfx Probably best to use the final 3dfx Official versions.

soporific View Member Profile	Oct 2 2007, 10:35 AM Post #27
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	QUOTE (galahs @ Oct 1 2007, 11:46 PM) What about 3dfx cards Drivers can be found here: http://www.falconfly.de/3dfx good suggestion but it has prompted the plea for more help, see first post for details The voodoo files are all basically identically named and it is getting increasingly harder to work around the limitations of the method i'm using. Any help is so much appreciated if there was a world record for the amount of appreciation ever given i'm a shoe in for second place on this issue. I reckon i hold first place as well! That's a story for another time, its a good one though. I should write a book ...

soporific View Member Profile	Oct 3 2007, 02:10 AM Post #28
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	joe tweaker: i've found the exact page where you get confused about which version to go with: my guess is try the v31.40h files and if it all seems to work, then as this is the latest package by far (3 years difference) the only thing is whether they are telling the truth about the drivers also supporting Win98se. The clincher for me is the way the whole web page is laid out, each heading has the name of just one version of Windows. This makes these headings unreliable in terms of meaning and so i would go with what it says it supports, so the v31.40h files are definitely the best bet to thoroughly test and then go with if it tests out. please let me know which drivers you are going to go with and i will add them to the packs. here's the latest list: CODE Index for the Driver Packs for Windows 98se v1.01 __________________________________ DP_w98_1.01.exe 7.65 MB extracts to 27.0 MB DP_w98_2.01.exe 10.4 MB extracts to 51.1 MB DP_w98_3.exe 13.9 MB extracts to 48.4 MB DP_w98_4.01.exe 1.41 MB extracts to 3.71 MB DP_w98_5.01.exe 9.23 MB extracts to 41.5 MB total: 42.2 MB extracting to 171.71 MB uncompressed __________________________________ Driver Packs 1 ATI Radeon 9800 series ATI Radeon 9700 series ATI Radeon 9600 series ATI Radeon 9500 series ATI Radeon 9200 series ATI Radeon 9100 series ATI Radeon 9000 series ATI Radeon 8500 series ATI Radeon 7500 series ATI Radeon 7200 series ATI Radeon 7000 series ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series and all "All-In-Wonder" variants of the every ATI Radeon series family above. SiS 315 SiS 530 SiS 6326 SiS 635 SiS 645 SiS 733 SiS 735 Trident Blade XP-T64 S3 ProSavageDDR Realtek 10/100/1000/ NIC Family (network) ADMtek AN983B (network) Realtek RTL8139 (network) LanKom LB-1200U (network) VIA VT8233 (network) Winbond W89C840 (network) __________________________________ Driver Packs 2 SiS 650 VIA-S3 UniChrome VIA VT8361 VIA VT8601 VIA VT850 ATi Rage 128 ATi Rage 128 Pro Voodoo1 Voodoo2 Voodoo3 Voodoo4 Voodoo5 Voodoo Banshee __________________________________ Driver Packs 3 NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce3 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460 NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5100 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VE NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZT NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300 NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750 NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache™ NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache™ NVIDIA GeForce 6500 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6600 VE NVIDIA GeForce 6610 XL NVIDIA GeForce 6700 XL NVIDIA GeForce 6800 NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XE NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT NVIDIA GeForce 7025 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PV NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7600 LE NVIDIA GeForce 7650 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX v2 NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 v2 NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EX NVIDIA Quadro2 Pro NVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL NVIDIA Quadro DCC NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400 NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI NVIDIA Quadro FX 350 NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2 NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 540 NVIDIA Quadro FX 550 NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500 NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 NVIDIA Quadro FX 560 NVIDIA Quadro FX 700 NVIDIA Quadro NVS NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCI NVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI NVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8X NVIDIA Quadro PCI-E Series __________________________________ Driver Packs 4 ALi1621 nForce2 (chipset) nForce3 (chipset) nForce4 (chipset) VIA USB 2.0 (usb) VIA HyperionPro 5.12 (chipset) __________________________________ Driver Packs 5 ** Realtek AC97 WDM Driver (v4.01) - (audio drivers)

glocK_94 View Member Profile	Oct 4 2007, 05:30 AM Post #29
Hardcore Win98 fan Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 13-July 06 Member No.: 101319	QUOTE (galahs @ Oct 1 2007, 02:46 PM) What about 3dfx cards. Probably best to use the final 3dfx Official versions. It'd be nice. However, Soporific, remember that voodoo 1 and 2 are additional cards that work on top of a 2D graphic card. From what I remember, the voodoo drivers needs to be installed second. Maybe someone can confirm this. PS: thanks a lot for the link Galahs!

joe tweaker View Member Profile	Oct 10 2007, 05:31 PM Post #30
Junior Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Irving, Texas Member No.: 155389 OS: 98SE	QUOTE (soporific @ Oct 3 2007, 03:10 AM) joe tweaker: i've found the exact page where you get confused about which version to go with: my guess is try the v31.40h files and if it all seems to work, then as this is the latest package by far (3 years difference) the only thing is whether they are telling the truth about the drivers also supporting Win98se. The clincher for me is the way the whole web page is laid out, each heading has the name of just one version of Windows. This makes these headings unreliable in terms of meaning and so i would go with what it says it supports, so the v31.40h files are definitely the best bet to thoroughly test and then go with if it tests out. please let me know which drivers you are going to go with and i will add them to the packs. Sorry I didn't see this reply sooner. I'd moved on to the UBCD thread and forgotten I'd posted here! Is there some way to tell these forums to notify me when I have a reply so this doesn't happen again? Anyway, after building the UBCD project on my hard drive, I noticed the new driver packs were out and downloaded the full update (7 packs) into my project folders. The index informed me that v31.40H had been added to pack #1. So I decided to bite the bullet and test 6.31c and 31.40H on my active partition before burning the project. I unpacked the files for each driver to separate folders, then looked at the INF and readme files in each folder. Both readme files recommended that I uninstall the current driver (2.17) from Control Panel Add/Remove first, reboot, then run the setup file to install the new driver, then reboot again to finish. While viewing the INF for each of the new drivers, I noticed each have sections titled [Mfg] and [Strings] where all the graphics cards supported by each driver appear to be enumerated. The string for my graphics card appears to be "V3400&VEN_10DE&DEV_0020." This string ONLY appears in the INF for the 6.31c driver. The lowest string in the 31.40H driver is "V3800&VEN_10DE&DEV_0028". This was my first clue that 31.40H might not install correctly. My next step was to remove 2.17, reboot, then run the setup file in the folder where I unpacked 31.40H. When I ran this setup file, the following message appeared on my screen: "No Asus Graphics Card found, or Windows boots in safe mode. Please reboot and try again." Needless to say, my graphics card was properly seated and working before this exercise, and rebooting did not help. I assume it will not install because the vendor string does not appear in the [Mfg] or [Strings] sections of this driver. I also assume just adding more strings to these two sections is a bad idea. If this driver worked with my adapter, its vendor string (V3400TNT) should already be there. The fact that it isn't suggests to me that I should not bother trying to edit this driver. Having gotten nowhere with 31.40H, I moved on to testing 6.31c. This one installed without a hitch, but after rebooting my screen had moved about 1/2 inch off center, up and to the left. It looked like there were a few new tweaks in the ASUS Display Controls, but nothing I know how to use. There was a tab that allowed horizontal and vertical adjustments, but I maxed the controls out before my screen was centered. I noticed another tab said the adapter had automatically chosen to use the "Optimum" refresh rate which sounded good, so I didn't try any others. Not wanting to live with my screen image still slightly off-center, I decided to unload 6.31c and go back to 2.17. This went fine until I rebooted my system, whereupon my screen image was even more off-center (about 3/4 inch this time)! However, the tab that displayed the refresh rate now said "Adapter Default" rather than "Optimum". Before using the tab with the vertical/horizontal adjustment controls, I tried setting the refresh rate to "Optimum". This too looked pretty off-center. So I tried other values until I came to the refresh rate of 75Mhz. This setting put my image dead center again, extending all the way out to the very edges. Perfecto! No need to make any other horizontal/vertical adjustments! (This might have worked with 6.31c, too, but in my haste I'd already unloaded it without testing other refresh rates.) So, both 2.17 and 6.31c will install, but 31.40H will not. And neither 2.17 or 6.31c default to a refresh rate which produces a centered image. 6.31c has more tweaks in the ASUS Display Controls, but the screen was off center with the refresh rate set to "Optimum". Assuming "Optimum" was the best choice, I failed to test other refresh rates while 6.31c was loaded. Since I had to set 2.17 to 75Mhz to get a screen image to center, I should retest 6.31c at other refresh rates to see if it too has a "better" setting than "Optimum." One final note, since returning to v2.17 and 75Mhz, my cursor has been doing things it did not do before. When moved over text, links, input boxes, etc, it now changes from the normal pointer to a large square containing dense hash marks, sort of like what you'd see on the inside of a security envelope. It blocks out any text below it, making it impossible to position the cursor with any precision. I did not notice this behavior while 6.31c was installed, which was not very long, but immediately after 2.17 was reinstalled. To be honest, I've only rebooted once since reverting to 2.17, so maybe it will go away on the next reboot. I'll try that first, then go back to 6.31c to determine whether modifying the refresh rate there has the same effect (on centering the display) that it does in 2.17.

joe tweaker View Member Profile	Oct 10 2007, 10:44 PM Post #31
Junior Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Irving, Texas Member No.: 155389 OS: 98SE	I am happy to report that the problem with the cursor disappeared after the next reboot, and has not returned. I reinstalled the ASUS video driver 6.31c and am using it now. Like version 2.17, it skewed the image quite a bit to the top and right side of the screen at all refresh rates except for 75Mhz. At 75Mhz it was slightly off, but within my ability to set it perfectly with the ASUS horizontal and vertical display controls. Everything looked fine at 75Mhz... until I rebooted. After the next boot, the screen was slightly skewed to the right again, but far far less at 75Mhz than at any other refresh rate. This time I used the Hitachi 630 monitor's OnScreenDisplay menu to adjust the image slightly to the left. Once it was perfect I pressed the save button on the monitor. Then I rebooted again. This time the display was still perfectly centered even after the next reboot. I don't know why the screen skews so much to the top and right at other refresh rates. All I know is it seems to be more than the monitor and ASUS display controls can correct, even when added together. At 75Mhz I can center the image onscreen with the ASUS controls set at default, and the Hitachi monitor controls all set between 40-60%. I made notes on the display driver details in 2.17 before swapping, and 6.31c afterwards. The date stamp on the 6.31c driver has a later date (10-31-2000) than the 2.17 driver (05-04-1999), but the 2.17 driver has a higher version number (4.11.01.0216) than the version 6.31c driver (4.10.01.1001-990609). The ASUS Display Controls have an extra tab, howver, in version 6.31c. The title of the extra tab is 'Advanced'. It has four tabs of its own labeled Direct3D VR, Direct 3D, OpenGL VR, and OpenGL. Several of these tabs mention something called 'Stereoscopic Mode.' I have no idea what this means, but these extra tabs are the only difference I can see between versions 2.17 and 6.31c. As I noted earlier, version 31.40H would not even load. All it did was complain that 'No ASUS Graphics Card was found' and exit. So, except for the internal version number, it looks like 6.31c was the last driver that supported my ASUS V3400TNT graphics card. I guess the next thing I need to learn is how to add 6.31c to the driver packs. I have all the files in their own folder, can I just add them to the UBCD as is, or do they need to be merged into an existing driver pack? The readme in the drivers folder describes how to modify the INF file. The folder where WinRar is installed has Rar.exe, UnRar.exe, and WinRar.exe. The only one I'm familiar with is WinRar. Is Rar.exe the DOS version? Do I just put all these files for 6.31c in the drivers\packs folder, open a dos window and type 'Rar a DP_w98_1.01.exe' (without the quotes)? What if existing files have the same filename? Does the command need other switches to maintain a 'self-extracting' format? Thanks. Again, my apologies for not testing these drivers earlier, but a job interview and a broken vehicle set me back a little. I got back to testing drivers as soon as I could.

soporific View Member Profile	Oct 12 2007, 04:22 AM Post #32
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	QUOTE (joe tweaker @ Oct 11 2007, 02:44 PM) Do I just put all these files for 6.31c in the drivers\packs folder, open a dos window and type 'Rar a DP_w98_1.01.exe' (without the quotes)? What if existing files have the same filename? Does the command need other switches to maintain a 'self-extracting' format? Thanks. You need the DOS RAR module which is available from their website. I've also sent you a PM. I wonder what it could be?

soporific View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 06:54 AM Post #33
Friend of MSFN Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 60134 OS: none	hey there, i'm making a new version of the UBCD and i want to include updated driverpacks. If you have any suggestions as to what to add, please say something. Obviously suggest the drivers your Win98 machine uses so maybe you'll want to use the project! Please see the first post for the current list and contents.