Updated: October 22, 2008 - Adding Creative applets - see below

There are some people having problems with their Creative Sound Blaster Live! in Windows 9x.
The Windows 9x Creative Web Release drivers for the Live! have caused me instability in Windows.
Years ago, I started collecting and testing newer versions of creative driver files to determine those that worked in 9x with the Live!.
Following is that collection of driver files:

Please note that these are original, freely available Creative files, and the binaries are not modified or patched in any way.

http://skyupload.com/211130M4TY8J/sblive.zip (4.42 MiB)

Experimental SB0100 support:
http://skyupload.com/17F3AVHT2L9V/sb0100.zip (4.42 MiB)

I do not have a SB0100 so I cannot test these - feedback welcome!


Creative EMU10K1 sound devices supported:

CT4620 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00211102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I)
CT4670 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00201102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I) Value
CT4760 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II)
SB0060 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80611102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1
SB0100 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80661102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 (Experimental)
CT4780 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80221102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4790 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80231102 - Sound Blaster PCI512 (OEM)
CT4830 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80261102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II OEM) Value
CT4831 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80311102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4832 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4850 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80511102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4870 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80281102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4871 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80321102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT???? - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_002F1102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated
CT???? - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80251102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated


I have used these drivers in Windows 98SE, but they 'should' support 95 and Me although I have not tested them on these platforms.
There are Creative installers for Windows 95 and for Windows 98/Me.
If you have a newer Sound Blaster that is not in the list above, then you can use the standard Web Release drivers for those cards from Creative.


Windows 9x DOS support drivers

Since Creative have removed most DOS drivers from their site...
For those wanting Pure DOS (outside of Windows) Sound Blaster 16 Emulation for their Live! and have lost or never had the original CD, or have a newer CD that does not come with these:

http://skyupload.com/219C6M1IMPJT/sbldos.zip (823 KiB)

These are the original Live! DOS Emulation drivers. I am aware of newer Live! DOS drivers but I do not have the install files... Anyone?

Note: DOS Emulation may not work on some (newer) motherboards if the BIOS does not map the PCI SERR# signal to the processor NMI (Non-Maskable Interrupt). Check with your mobo vendor for BIOS upgrade, or dump the Mobo for one that works properly!
See here for more technical information:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.pe...47b2fbdaeff13e6


Creative Applets that are compatible and tested with VxD drivers:
Check your current version of each applet before installing these in case they are actually newer than these...

AudioHQ
To deinstall the original CD installed AudioHQ (and 1.0.185.0):
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\AudioHQ.isu"
Always deinstall old version first!

1.0.185.0 (Oct 1999) - Works - http://skyupload.com/18SI8SGAZ876/audiohq10185.zip (1.98 MiB)
1.0.193.0 (Sep 2000) - Failed to install (!)
1.10.21 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
1.10.22 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers

Surround Mixer
To deinstall the original CD installed Surround Mixer:
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\SurMixer.isu"
To deinstall 1.1.1.0 of Surround Mixer:
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SurroundMixer\SurMixer.isu"
Always deinstall old version first!

1.1.1.0 (Nov 2000) - Works - http://skyupload.com/18OPQGVCNGAA/surmix111.zip (1.68 MiB)
2.00.26 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
2.00.29 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
3.00.57 (Feb 2003) - Fails with VxD drivers



Standard disclaimer
These drivers have worked for me but YMMV. I have been using them for years with no problem, however, they may or may not work on your model of Creative sound card, and therefore, I cannot make any guarantee of suitability. In simple terms, you are solely responsible if your audio begins to sound like you're in a concrete bunker some thirty-seven miles from the stage of Disaster Area!

Enjoy!

This post has been edited by RetroOS: Oct 22 2008, 03:10 AM

I've added the pure DOS Sound Blaster 16 Emulation drivers for the Live!
These are for Windows 95/98, but not Me since Me does not have pure DOS access aside from the EBD.
See first post.

EDIT: Windows Me with the EBD IO.SYS patch could in fact run SB16 DOS Emulation!

This post has been edited by RetroOS: May 27 2008, 08:59 PM

Will this help with SB16...as have original cdrom and older SB16 blaster audio card from '95era?...i think. ;It came with Pentium1-133Mhz-66Mhzbus-1.5gbHdd-And a useless(BTC) cdrom :***Will be putting in Via(ShuttleMoBo)Apollo 233Mhz-MMX/Pentium2(acts like a Pentium4)-66Mhzbus-4.7gbHdd,1.5Hdd---LITEON LTN301CdRom-read,audio(player/burner),LITE-ON LH52CIP DVD/CDRW Burner;H-P CD Writer/Burner THX...thydreamwalker

No it won't. SBLive! uses the EMU10K1 chipset that is quite different to previous Sound Blasters.
Download the SB16 Windows drivers from Creative.
If it's a SB16 PCI and you want to use it outside of Windows, then you will need the DOS driver.
A bit tricky since Creative dropped DOS support...
Try adapting the SBPCI drivers from here: http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/snddosdr.htm

I've corrected some of the Sound Blaster Live! model names in the first post supported list.
If anyone was wondering, the supported devices do include the SB0060 Live! 5.1 cards (previously incorrectly named).

I would like to confirm the operation of these drivers on various Live! models.
If you have installed these drivers and they are working correctly, then please post your Live! information.
Information as listed in the first post would be good. CT or SB model (on card), descriptive model (on box or manual), and PCI ID would all be useful.
PCI ID can be found using regedit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCI
Look for key starting with VEN_1102&DEV_0002, and copy key name.
And the version of Windows 9x (95, 95A, 95B, 95C, 98, 98SP1, 98SE, Me)

Also let me know if the drivers have not worked for you and why.

These drivers do not include the Creative apps like Surround Mixer.
Many of these can be downloaded from Creative.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by RetroOS: May 25 2008, 06:18 AM

I don't know of any PCI SB16 cards. I have an ISA one though, and it works perfectly under DOS with just this line in autoexec.bat, no drivers needed as DOS had native support for the SB:



You have to check the jumper settings of the card, they have to match the above line.

This post has been edited by Th3_uN1Qu3: May 25 2008, 05:43 AM

Thanks your driver info helped on older PI ;yet found auto matic driver installs for a lotta Creatives SB Cards?....in Windows 2K ADV SVR...not sure if in CD-ROM or was downloaded in NTSP4 Updates? thydreamwalker

Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be...shame the parametric eq patch doesn't work on it Thanks anyway

Yeah, patches tend to be file version specific.
What model Live! card do you have?

I have model SB0100, which is a SoundBlaster Live! 5.1.

Anyone else gotten the drivers installed and installed properly with the SB0100?

Hi RJARRRPCGP, I don't think the SB0100 is in the installer INF.
Can you post your card's PCI ID. See my previous post for information:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Compilation-of-C...549#entry767549

I can try to port the patch to the newer version... if you want me to try, do PM me.

CT4830

Looks like you have a Generation II Live! card. I've got a Gen II myself.
Generation III was introduced with the Live! 5.1.
There have been driver updates since the Live!Ware 3.0 full package was released.

That's the point of these drivers.
As I noted in a previous post, these are the core drivers and do not include Creative applications like Surround Mixer.
The Creative apps have been updated since Live!Ware 3.0 also, but there are some compatibility issues with some newer versions since they are often designed for the WDM drivers (not recommended in 9x - I tested them, and could never get them working properly...).

Yeah i know the point of this post but i hate it when companies dont post updated drivers for their older hardware and only for the newer (obvious reasons) even if they are compatible...i didn't knew there were newer vxd drivers for my card besides the lw3.0 package. What about the apps? Is threr surround mixer update for the vxd drivers ? I would like to try it. Thanks for this nice compilation...would be nice if you could find the updated dos drivers (not preinstalled tho).

I, too, own the SB0100...
I've attached a registry file of the SB0100 keys found under:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCI

Hopefully this will help .

This post has been edited by whatever420: Jun 5 2008, 11:43 PM