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Tihiy
post Apr 22 2008, 04:23 PM
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UberKern 0.3
- This version implements ToUnicode function which is needed to handle hotkeys in trunk Minefield builds as well as may be needed to correctly handle keyboard input with dead-keys (accent or diacritic).
As soon as i fixed this issue, other issues raise: now pictures are broken in latest-trunk. huh.gif
There is also problem reported with sudden constant disk usage: if you monitor programs with FileMon, you'll notice lot of I/O on sqlite files.
The known workaround is to delete them blink.gif i'm not sure why this bug is triggered.

Solution: you can turn off malware protection in about:config (dowloading URLs from Google) to work this bug around. For YOUR OWN RISK!!!

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post Apr 26 2008, 03:09 PM
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Win 98
Pentium III
Firefox 3 Beta 5

After a long drawn out installation so that it works, I installed Firefox 3 successfully. I started it up. Worked correctly on my profile. Closed it, add -no-remote -p to the shortcut. Went in, created a new profile FF3, and it worked. Closed FF2 and FF3 once more, and tried to reopen FF3, but it failed without giving a reason (though it said crash reporter couldn't open). Reopened FF2 and tried again. Failed once more.

Any possible help?

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Tihiy
post Apr 26 2008, 04:20 PM
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Went in, created a new profile FF3, and it worked. Closed FF2 and FF3 once more, and tried to reopen FF3, but it failed without giving a reason (though it said crash reporter couldn't open). Reopened FF2 and tried again. Failed once more.

Yeah, crash. If you want to use Firefox2 and Firefox3 with different profiles (named FF2 and FF3 for example) you can run Firefox3' firefox.exe with parameter -p FF3 and Firefox2' firefox.exe with parameter -p FF2. This way it does not crash for me.

Meanwhile, i test trunk builds every day and must say they work as expected with 0.3.
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post Apr 26 2008, 04:59 PM
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...I do have profile manager on both.

Though, taking off the -no-remote -p works.

Readding the -p, it works.

You has a bug with the -no-remote flag...
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post Apr 26 2008, 05:23 PM
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You has a bug with the -no-remote flag
I does? I DON'T modify Mozilla code and have _NO_ control over it! I have no idea about flags or what FF3 does with them.

And no, you wrong. It will crash with just -p as well. -no-remote is flag meaning "let me open browser multiple instance with different profiles". I've answered you how to run (work around) it. If you want to have a profiles window pop up every time, sorry, it seems to be not possible now.

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post Apr 27 2008, 11:03 AM
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Gave your new UberKern beta a try with FF3-b5. And ... seems ok shifty.gif

Anything you'd like me to try in particular? Maybe PM if yes.

Many thanks again, for all your efforts!
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post May 6 2008, 09:19 AM
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I got Inkscape to run, but all the menus, tooltips, dialog buttons, tab titles, combo boxes and lists had no text in them. Even spinners appeared empty. Window titles did appear fine, though.

Incidentally, is it supposed to say "Maybe OK"?
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post May 10 2008, 03:08 AM
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i want to say thanks a lot "Tihiy" angel.gif great work. welcome.gif

i am not using FF3 yet, but i know now the posibility to use it on win 98 is given.


just thought what is going to be after the last FF 2.xx version, now i know there is hope for win 98. cool.gif yes.gif



just great smile.gif
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post May 15 2008, 05:10 AM
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Umm... "Ping"?
Sorry to be annoying, but how often is this updated?

I (really really really ad infinitum) like the potential in this, but am forced to patiently wait for the next version...

Patiently waiting... unsure.gif crazy.gif
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post May 15 2008, 05:24 AM
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Pong!

I would like to see a version which supports InkScape, sure.

But! The version i've tried fails to start at all. Which - where - what should i InkScape?
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post May 17 2008, 01:28 PM
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Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 is out:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

First post instructions apply to it as well. You may need to rename install program to short name.
RC1 generally works faster and better than Beta 5.
UberKern 0.3 is compatible with it. You still may need to disable malware checking if you experience disk trashing.

Note: you can't do partial auto-updating since patch binary is modified.

If possible, UberKern project is going to be terminated. Code will be ported to KernelEx. I'll post here when its fate is decided.
Good luck!
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post May 17 2008, 10:00 PM
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Out of curiosity, which GTK+ apps are working now? Do the newer GIMPs fall on the list?
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post May 18 2008, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE (Tihiy @ May 17 2008, 09:28 PM) *
If possible, UberKern project is going to be terminated. Code will be ported to KernelEx. I'll post here when its fate is decided.
Good luck!


Tihiy, what is the eventual reason/s for cancelling this project? Xeno86 doesn't update his KernelEx regulary.
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post May 18 2008, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE (rainyd @ May 18 2008, 03:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Tihiy @ May 17 2008, 09:28 PM) *
If possible, UberKern project is going to be terminated. Code will be ported to KernelEx. I'll post here when its fate is decided.
Good luck!


Tihiy, what is the eventual reason/s for cancelling this project? Xeno86 doesn't update his KernelEx regulary.


Maybe because he doesn't have time to work on it and needs to focus on more important things.

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post May 18 2008, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE (rainyd @ May 18 2008, 09:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Tihiy @ May 17 2008, 09:28 PM) *
If possible, UberKern project is going to be terminated. Code will be ported to KernelEx. I'll post here when its fate is decided.
Good luck!


Tihiy, what is the eventual reason/s for cancelling this project? Xeno86 doesn't update his KernelEx regulary.


Perhaps because by porting it to KernelEx there would be no need to patch GTK+ Cairo binaries everytime an update comes along, or because this way other software that uses the same unsupported functions would work correctly on Win98.
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post May 19 2008, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE (alexanrs @ May 19 2008, 01:53 AM) *
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Perhaps because by porting it to KernelEx there would be no need to patch GTK+ Cairo binaries everytime an update comes along, or because this way other software that uses the same unsupported functions would work correctly on Win98.

UberKern does not 'patch' code! It is an API wrapper only. Tihiy's comments:

QUOTE (Tihiy @ Apr 27 2008, 11:23 AM) *
...I DON'T modify Mozilla code and have _NO_ control over it!...

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post May 19 2008, 03:38 PM
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The point if it being a wrapper is no longer the point. Once integrated into KernelEx, there will no longer be any need to wrap such programs.

One such noticable bits is how FF3 required 'GetLastInput()' pre-patching which is one of the currently Missing API's through KernelEx that a few programs require. Such programs would be unlikely to also have a wrapper for it therefor allowing integration into KernelEx to satisfy such an API need.

Should it be integrated - it will help advance the development of KernelEx even further and might even take advantage of KernelEx's added support for Export Forwarding.
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post May 20 2008, 11:56 AM
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