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Feb 15 2008, 01:30 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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I have developed easy to use ranking system which will help us to find which games are able to work on win9x. It is quite simple.
Tools: Dependency Walker http://www.dependencywalker.com/ "Can You Run it?" web tool http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest Explanation Rank 1: Game is officially able to run on Windows 9x systems and it works Rank 2: Game is oficially unable to run on Windows 9x but with updated system game runs. Edit: add here games which are officially unable to run on win9x but they run even without patching. Rank 3: Game is oficially able to run on Windows 9x but it does not run at all (due any reason).PLEASE ADD LIST OF MISSING DLL EXPORTS AND REASON WHY GAME DIDNT RUN Rank 4: Game is oficially not able to run on Windows 9x and it does not run even when kernelEX is applied. PLEASE ADD LIST OF MISSING DLL EXPORTS AND REASON WHY GAME DIDNT RUN Rank 5: Game or engine developed oficially for Windows 9x, which after years is losing its compatibility during updatin - updating of OS or Game itself.PLEASE ADD LIST OF MISSING DLL EXPORTS AND REASON WHY GAME DIDNT RUN Some of Win9x users have new games. since Kernel and other system files have quite larga number of exports we can focus on those which are really needed to be added. When you come across a game which is unable to run due a missing export or message like "needs winXP to run" run dependency walker, open its main executable (and some other executables) and send with your report all exports which were missing, including files in which the export was missing. KERNEL EX VERSION 0.3.2a Ranking List Class "1": Warcraft II: Battlenet Edition Warcraft III: The Reing of Chaos Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Heroes Of Might and Magic III Heroes Of Might and Magic IV Might And Magic 6 Might And Magic 7 Grand Theft Auto 3 Diablo I Diablo II Diablo II: Lord of Destruction Far Cry 1 Medal of Honor: Allied Assault The Elder Scrolls III : Morrowind The Need For Speed III The Need For Speed 5: Porsche Challenge The Need For Speed: Underground 2 Baldur's Gate 1 The Neverhood KKND KKND: Extreme Command and Conquer Command and Conquer: Red Alert Command and Conquer: Tiberium Sun Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 Command and Conquer: Generals Command and Conquer: Renegade Dungeon Keeper Lands Of Lore 2 Lands Of Lore 3 StarCraft StarCraft: Broodwars Freelancer Mafia Unreal Gold Unreal Tournament Unreal II Unreal Tournament 2004 Age of Empires I Age of Empires I: The Rise of Rome Expansion Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings Age of Empires II: The Conquerors Expansion Age of Mythology Rise of Nations Rise of Nations Gold Edition Battlefield 1942 Battlefield 1942: Road to Rome Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII Halo Quake III Quake III: Team Arena Red Faction Half Life Half Life: Team Fortress Classic Half Life: Counter Strike Alien Versus Predator 1 Mortal Kombat 4 NHL98 Dune 2000 Commandos Ubik Civilization II Wing Commander: Secret Ops Spellcross Guildwars Tomb Raider 1 Tomb Raider 2 Tomb Raider 3 Tomb Raider 4 Tomb Raider 5 Tomb Raider 6 The Need for Speed 1 The Need for Speed 2 The Need for Speed 3: Most Wanted The Need for Speed 5: Porsche Challenge The Need for Speed : Underground The Sims 2 + All addition The punisher gothic 1 gothic 2 moto racer 3 gold edition motoGP motoGp2 call of duty + Addition fifa 05 pes 05 bus driver code of honor gta vice city splinter cell 1,2 swat 4 matrix (It is cut) prince of persia Sands of times prince of persia Soul of warrior unreal 2004 wolfenstein enemy territory flatout guilty gear X2 guilty gear isuka (At hold-down xp office) freedom fighters XIII chrome + addition evil dead regeneration suffering ties that bind richard burns rally midnight club 2 alarm cobra nitro xpand rally max payne 1 max payne 2 colin 3,4 bloodrayne bloodrayne 2 Half life 2 Ranking List Class "2" The Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion (with trouble) Prey Doom 3 Quake 4 Grand Theft Auto III : San Andreas Alien Arena Torino 2006 Civilization IV Civilization IV Warlords Civilization IV Beyond the sword Alpine Ski Racing 2007 Need For Speed : Most Wanted Heroes of Might and Magic 5 (windows version masq. for install + kernelx + patch 1.41 (i think)) Heroes of Might and Magic 5 - Hammers of Fate (windows version masq. for install + kernelx + patch 2.0) F.E.A.R. Perseus Mandate F.E.A.R Alarm Cobra Nitro Alarm Cobra Crash time Enemy Territory: Quake Wars The Mark El Matador Ranking List Class "3" Halflife 2 - Episode One (Reason - SteamEngine) BTAS: Zak McKracken - between time and space (http://www.zak2.org/zak2/cms/front_content.php?idart=33&idcat=1&changelang=2) (wxWidgets bug for windows9x systems, worked around by kernelx) Ranking List Class "4" S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl (Reason - unknown. Bugtracker error? exports are OK) Age of Empires III (GDI32.dll : AddFontMemResourceEx) Red Alert - A path beyond BetaFinal - (error message window not visible, exports ok) Rank 4: Heroes of Might and Magic 5 (with patch >= 1.5 - saving is not working anymore, no folder found) Heroes of Might and Magic 5 - Hammers of Fate (with patch 2.1 - saving is not working anymore, no folder found) Supreme Commander (numerous missing exports) Ranking List Class "5": Ultima Online (Reason - BSOD related to afvxd.vxd on logon) Steam Engine (reason - artifical block, two missing exports) Mechwarriors 2: Mercenaries (requires patch 1.05p or above when used with kernelEX) The Need for Speed 4: High Stakes (Reason - unknown or KernelEX) This list shall be updated, and reasons added. This post has been edited by Offler: Nov 8 2008, 03:27 PM |
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Feb 15 2008, 01:33 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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Reserved for future use.
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Feb 15 2008, 02:02 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 18-December 06 Member No.: 118823
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Rank 1:
Need for Speed Underground 2 Rank 2: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (shouldn't run on Win98 but runs anyway) I wonder why GTA-SA has Win2000 as a system requirement. It could be possible that some secondary bloat bundled with the game requires WinNT, while the real game itself runs. Is there a Steamless HL2? Perhaps specify exactly how old games may be listed. This post has been edited by j7n: Feb 16 2008, 02:33 PM |
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Feb 15 2008, 02:30 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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Rank 1: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (shouldn't run on Win98 but runs anyway) Need for Speed Underground 2 I wonder why GTA-SA has Win2000 as a system requirement. It could be possible that some secondary bloat bundled with the game requires WinNT, while the real game itself runs. Is there a Steamless HL2? Perhaps specify exactly how old games may be listed. I am looking for steamless HL2 but i found only crack 1,8Gb large. Also if San Adreas has written on booklet and in "Can you run it" tool "Required Win2k/XP" and the game runs it belongs to rank 2 no matter if it needs kernel ex or not. Also age... i am not sure about it. Still complete list of win9x games is much longer as games which are not compatible and quite much of them are still available. And not only low rated products, but very good games. Add them all |
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Feb 15 2008, 07:28 PM
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Friend of MSFN ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 963 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Canberra Member No.: 75318 OS: none
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Rank 1:
Unreal Gold Unreal Tournament Unreal II Unreal Tournament 2004 Age of Empires I Age of Empires I: The Rise of Rome Expansion Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings Age of Empires II: The Conquerors Expansion Age of Mythology Rise of Nations Rise of Nations Gold Edition Battlefield 1942 Battlefield 1942: Road to Rome Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII Halo Quake III Quake III: Team Arena Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 Command and Conquer: Generals Red Faction Half Life Half Life: Team Fortress Classic Half Life: Counter Strike Rank 4: Age of Empires III GDI32.dll : AddFontMemResourceEx |
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Feb 16 2008, 01:51 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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Demos are not suitable - they contain some bugs which may be not connected with windows 9x.
This post has been edited by Offler: Feb 16 2008, 03:15 AM |
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Feb 16 2008, 10:02 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 2-November 07 Member No.: 160803 OS: 98SE
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Class 5
Mechwarriors 2: Mercenaries (requires patch 1.05p or above when used with kernelEX) Specificly, there's a CD read error when going into a stage on all v1.0 games. It's present in XP and oddly enough becomes present in OS's with the kernelEx patch applied. Patching the game with the official 1.05p, 1.06, or 1.1 patches should remedy this. Worth noting at least. |
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Feb 17 2008, 07:51 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Bulgaria Member No.: 110901 OS: 98SE
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It’s about time for this thread, eh?
Rank 2: Torino 2006 (shouldn't run on Win98, but runs flawlessly, no patching!) ------------ As for HL2, I’m pretty sure win98 handles it perfectly, but as long as it uses Steam, it is unable to get the game working. Need a workaround to get rid the steam. On the other hand, Source engine is fully Win98 compatible! Valve had fully working Steam under win98 until last summer, when they stopped to support this OS via Steam. Steamless HL2 is the only way to go under Win98. (Assuming you own the game) |
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Feb 17 2008, 07:59 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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some people requested Crysis... i am too lazy to download demo... anybody tried it?
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Feb 17 2008, 08:07 AM
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Hardcore Win98 fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 400 Joined: 13-July 06 Member No.: 101319
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Very nice idea Offler... once more!
Here's an important rank 2 game and add-ons (it uses Python and works just fine on Win9x): Civilization IV Civilization IV Warlords Civilization IV Beyond the sword PS: I confirm what tonich said about HL2... You shouldn't use steam anyway. The idea to ask a server if you can play a game you bought is just beyond my understanding. oh, and what category games that work with KernelEx go? |
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Feb 17 2008, 08:30 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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games able to run on Win9x with kernel ex go to "rank 2". if i understand your question...
also about HL2. i asked support if there should be added to steam a command line switch to skip OS check and try to run Steam on any system. i have to write down the missing exports for steamengine. if they shall be fixed steam and steam shall have a cmd line swith it could work even on Win9x with KEX. |
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Feb 20 2008, 01:34 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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I have analyzed steamengine executables:
Steam.EXE - all exports OK execution is blocked due error message steamTMP.exe - all exports OK SteamService.exe - Kernel.32dll: GetConsoleWindow and Advapi32.dll: ChangeServiceConfig2A At least missing exports, but file can be executed GameoverlayUI.exe - user32.dll: LockSetForgroundWindow Writeminidump.exe - all exports OK |
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Feb 27 2008, 02:46 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Bulgaria Member No.: 110901 OS: 98SE
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Anyone else on steam workaround?
-------------------------------- Rank 2: Alpine Ski Racing 2007 (shouldn't run on Win98, but works fine, no patching) Note: I installed it under WinXP, as I have a double boot system. Not sure whether it can be installed under Win98, thought. I just didn't try. This post has been edited by tonich: Feb 27 2008, 02:48 AM |
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Jul 17 2008, 01:43 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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i have added some new games in list. i think that i can change version 0.3.2 to 0.3.5 without trouble
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Jul 17 2008, 01:41 PM
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Digital sinner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 435 Joined: 17-March 08 From: Bucharest Member No.: 182383 OS: Vista Ultimate x64
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Why not merge it with the Compatibility Database i started? It's useless to have 2 topics on the same thing. I'm running KernelEx 0.3.5.
On topic: Steam sucks. I am a moderator of a non-steam gaming forum and will always run non-steam. Steam CS 1.6 takes 1 minute to open on my main rig, non-steam CS 1.6 takes 3 seconds. Not mentioning Source games... Besides, HL2 is a singleplayer game. Why should i need an internet connection to play it? I'll be back with my own crappy games list. This post has been edited by Th3_uN1Qu3: Jul 17 2008, 01:42 PM |
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Jul 18 2008, 04:19 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 29-October 06 From: Bratislava Member No.: 114267 OS: 98SE
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few months ago i bought HL2: EP1. during installation it required internet connection, steam installation and registration. since august 2007 is win9x not supported by steam so installation failed. Game itself is able to run in rank 1...
i would like to separate games from other more usable software, just because for better searching in database... |
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Jul 18 2008, 08:07 AM
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Digital sinner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 435 Joined: 17-March 08 From: Bucharest Member No.: 182383 OS: Vista Ultimate x64
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i would like to separate games from other more usable software, just because for better searching in database... I don't realize how this improves searching, the search button would return the same results anyway. But whatever... One less worry for me - i won't maintain that topic anymore. Whoever wants to find a compatible app, let him read the |