Seriously not everything new is supposed to be the greatest. There are lots of examples that can be given but I am not going to waste my time. I just dotn see anythign in Vista that requires me to lose that much hdd space adn that much performance. You can see my specs below and I am using XP x64 and the system flies. I tried Vista and it was just too slow and sluggish and I had those copying issues as well. It would just sit there like a jackass copying small files! WTF!

My roll in life, this one anyway, is to make things work better. It's what I've done for 44 years now.
I'm running Vista Ultimate 32 on a freebie PC that was given to me.
There are many ways to simplify Vista and make it run better and use less resources.
There are even some registry tweaks to enhance performance.

But I've found nothing to eliminate the HD bloat. Vista is just HUGE!
It definitely requires MORE HD space and even more RAM than XP.

On my test machine, it runs pretty well.
I'm still looking for new ways to eeeek out another percent or two of performance.
I havn't even started shutting down Services yet, but I'll bet there are a bunch.
On XP I shut down about a dozen, without crippling XP.

Vista will never be my favorite OS, but it can be made to work a lot better than it does,
right out of the box.

Good luck,
Andromeda

I am ok with a new OS taking up more ram and stuff and more hard drive space as well as long as it is doing SOMETHING beneficial that I can see or ntoice. Yet pretty much everyone even the Vista fans I am sure have had smoe negative experience adn then they did all these tweaks and fixes adn vlite and all that to get it to perform better. Sure there is nothign wrong with modding to get more performance. But even then its not quick enough. THe price is outrageous. There is absolutely no reason to use Vista right now. Someone may say DX 10 and I say show me benefits and advantages of it. Once again just because something is new does not make it better.

My package is a little bit old for vista

Not surprised to see xp is getting more votes. Even after vista sp1, vista is still slow and bloated and resource hungry. My system is op notch, 4gb ram with intel core duo, but still vista is sluggish when it come to speed, responsive, and reliability

At this point, if a well-powered system is running slow with Vista, something is wrong with the system.

Well you may have a point there subzero BUT if a well endowed system runs XP just fine and then you slap Vista on it with right drivers etc etc and SP1 before installing any other software and it is still sluggish and slow would it not imply something is wrong with the system?

I think and dont take this as flaming or badmouthing or anything bad at all but people always tend to think newer equals better especially when it comes to software and more often than not unfortunately that is not the case. That is just the unfortunate reality of software.

I'd go with Vista personally....Like what most guys said, it's got software compatibility issues but it'll fix from time to time via updates. I just hope MS will release SP2 sooon! and a patch for backwards compatible applications such as most games.

Cheers
Daora1984

If it's still sluggish something is wrong. Could be one of those "right drivers."


From your personal experience, please list off some games that you know for certain do not work in Vista. Specific titles please.

Its not driver problems, as i upgraded my video card and other stuffs, with the new raptor 300bg HDD, all my system componenets are vista compatible with full x86/x64 driver support.

Its just moving from xp sp3 to a resource hungry and bloated OS makes it feel slower than xp. But end of the day vista is not that bad after sp1, compatibility and stability has improved a lot. Its just the file copying issues still remain which really puts me off, and obviously other stuffs.

Surprisingly when i used vlite to strip down vista (did not remove too many components only few), the result was Vista is faster than XP SP3 in everything. So basically vista has potential to become the fastest OS, but its bloated stuffs and unnecessary services and its many dependency's on each services kills a good OS

This post has been edited by shahed26: Jul 18 2008, 08:42 AM

You havent heard of vLite? Their forums are right here.

My package is just a little old

Drivers causing slowness overall? Well if I got the manufacturers drivers so if that is the root cause of the problem well then I would blame it on the drivers but that is not the case. Its still sluggish no matter what way you slice it. I am sure it will get better. SP1 was prob a step in the right direction and I am thinking by the time Windows 7 comes out a lot of fixes and stuff going into that next OS will be put into Vista as well. I am not saying it wont get better it will but its not worth the hassle for me to be beta testing an OS. I have better things to do than hack registries and vlite and hunt for the 'right' drivers.

The split is about 50/50. A year ago, it was like 99/1 in favor of XP. Give it 6 months to a year, and it'll be like 75/25 in favor of Vista. Nothing surprising here.


Exactly my setup (actually not even, my CPU isn't exactly top notch, it's just a lowly E2160), except it's not slow at all (it wasn't sluggish either back when it only had 2GB either). Very responsive, and way more reliable than XP.


Totally. Good drivers makes all the difference.


Also, criticizing gaming performance (how many FPS they get in games, as seen in benchmarks) isn't really a valid point anymore. Drivers have gotten better, and the problem is solved for the most part. As for software not working, I have to call FUD on that one. Just see how very little software ended up being added to this thread (no titles named here either)...

This post has been edited by crahak: Jul 18 2008, 01:56 PM

As much as I use the command line I never thought to try that.

Thanks!

I do not deny that drivers for Vista have gotten better. Its still slower compared to XP. Until that gets fixed I for sure and I am sure many others will just refuse to upgrade.

And for those who say good drives make the difference give me some examples of good drivers that are NOT from the manufacturers since thats where I got all my drivers from!