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Jan 14 2008, 07:27 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 5-September 07 Member No.: 153733 OS: 98SE
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Hi,
Anyone here know (other than Ebay) where to obtain legal licenses for Windows 3.11? Apparently Dosbox now has limited support for this anicent OS and I was wanting to test. However, to do that I still need an appropriate license. The alternative would be to find some mad hacker willing to write from scratch enough of Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 to enable the old multimedia application I want to use to run. This idea has merit, after all ReactOS is trying to implement NT. HX DOS extender IIRC only supports PE type, not NE type used by Windows 3.11 ? |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:15 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 1-May 07 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 137739 OS: none
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If it's a 3.1 app, it should run fine under 9x.
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Jan 14 2008, 07:29 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 14-November 07 Member No.: 162398 OS: 98SE
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hi,try thee pages @<http://www.mywindowspage.com> and thee old dos references ;as these were a huge factor in running older aplications as 5.25disk games and win3.0-3.11,before i got me cd-rom back to running i was using jusy a floppy and older 5.25disk as my boot and system reliable input;stll i believe win3.1 is a better system than 95 ,if add calmira3.3:;thydreamwalker(p.s.always check @www.mdgx.com...too)
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Jan 15 2008, 11:22 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 5-September 07 Member No.: 153733 OS: 98SE
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hi,try thee pages <ABANDONWAREZ LINK REMOVED> and thee old dos references ;as these were a huge factor in running older aplications as 5.25disk games and win3.0-3.11,before i got me cd-rom back to running i was using jusy a floppy and older 5.25disk as my boot and system reliable input;stll i believe win3.1 is a better system than 95 ,if add calmira3.3:;thydreamwalker(p.s.always check @www.mdgx.com...too) Sorry, First link useless, site claims to host 'abandonwarez' because of this it's not even worth further investigation. I may even ask the mods here to put it on the blacklist, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! I will try searching around mqdx.com - That site I know to be reasonable |
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Feb 5 2008, 01:40 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 26-June 06 Member No.: 99796
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If it's a 3.1 app, it should run fine under 9x. Back when I did tech suport for Compaq computers running Win95 and later Win98, a large number of my calls revolved around getting Win3.x programs working on Win9.x. At a recent VMware Symposia that I attended, one topic of discussion was VMware's ability to run business essentual DOS and Win3.x programs that could not be run in later operating systems including Win9.x If it is a 3.1 app, it should run fine on a VMware, parallels or MS VirtualPC virtulised Win3.1 computer. |
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Mar 12 2008, 09:02 AM
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QuaNTuM ![]() Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Skopje , Macedonia Member No.: 179254 OS: XP Home
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Abandon Warez ?!?! its abandonware and it isn't illegal at all see abandonware takes the abandoned projects and puts them on the Net so that they wont be forgotten or used
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Mar 22 2008, 08:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 1-May 07 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 137739 OS: none
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Abandon Warez ?!?! its abandonware and it isn't illegal at all see abandonware takes the abandoned projects and puts them on the Net so that they wont be forgotten or used Abandonware is software that is no longer sold or supported. That doesn't mean you are free to distribute or sell it. Should the company want to re-release it at some point, you would be taking from their profits. |
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Mar 24 2008, 05:07 AM
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MSFN Junkie Group: Software Developers Posts: 3623 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none
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If you have a Windows 95 or 98 (not sure about ME) you can re-build a minimal (Standard mode only) Win3.x, using some base files included in the Win9x release, alternative freeware, and freely available patches from MS.
It is NOT the "real" thing, but enough for some experiments. Read these: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=16754 http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=623 jaclaz |
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Mar 24 2008, 05:52 AM
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WPI Guru Group: Software Developers Posts: 6077 Joined: 18-September 03 From: Pocatello, ID Member No.: 6960 OS: Vista Ultimate x86
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If you end up getting Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (the latest and most powerful of the 3.x series), please note that it will ask for a serial number during setup, but it does not actually require that you enter one.
Even some of the original 95 install setups did not require keys. The main issue you have is getting the media. This post has been edited by Kelsenellenelvian: Mar 24 2008, 05:52 AM |
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Apr 7 2008, 05:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 5-April 08 From: USA Member No.: 185511 OS: none
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Yes. Back in those days Microsoft cared less about software piracy and more about product uniqueness and registration.
A lot of those programs simply just took a "111-111-1111" format and worked by just entering ones as well. As far as legalities go with Microsoft: They don't care about you pirating Windows 98 and below. They no longer profit (or lose profit through pirating) off of these obsolete products. I HIGHLY doubt it will hurt them or anyone else if you didn't acquire a license to Windows 3.1. |
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Jun 30 2008, 01:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 12-October 07 From: North of Watford Member No.: 158110 OS: 98SE
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Sorry, this isn't how to get a valid licence for Win 3.1; and I'm keeping my own for similar exercises in nostalgia. BUT is everyone aware of Gaby's site at http://www.gaby.de/win3x/eindex.htm? It has a great deal of freeware, and links to much more including the Calmira skin.
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Jun 30 2008, 10:23 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 14-February 08 From: NY, US Member No.: 176986 OS: XP Pro x86
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Hey, I ran across a DOS 7.10 release that claimed to be "free" .. is this true? I didn't think MS-DOS was ever "free". I can give a mod or admin the link if they want to check it out. (I think I still have it somewhere.) Personally, I consider it "abandonware", but I'm curious to know if it's actually free or not.
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Jul 1 2008, 06:36 AM
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MSFN Junkie Group: Software Developers Posts: 3623 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none
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Hey, I ran across a DOS 7.10 release that claimed to be "free" .. is this true? I didn't think MS-DOS was ever "free". I can give a mod or admin the link if they want to check it out. (I think I still have it somewhere.) Personally, I consider it "abandonware", but I'm curious to know if it's actually free or not. Rest assured, it is NOT. Abandonware means, from a legal standpoint, NOTHING. To be picky a product whose maker and copyright holder has defaulted and ceased activities AND did not sell the copyright to anyone else, can be considered "safe" as noone will ever sue you. A product from a Company that is still alive (and well alive) like MS is, may present more risks of being sued. Depending on the Laws that apply in your country, you may be prosecuted nonetheless by the Local Authorities, even without any copyright holder suing you. But there are several "alternate" DOSes that are either freeware or free for personal use. jaclaz |
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Nov 9 2008, 01:28 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 23-April 07 Member No.: 136739 OS: 98SE
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Oh I could not resist replying to this thread. FREE! Definitely. I have a FREE copy of Windows 3.0 (and it says FREE copy on the disks.) Microsoft gave them away as promotional items. And when you bought a mouse, Logitech gave you a FREE full copy of Windows that had no serial number. The name on the disk is Logitech, not Microsoft.
best regards all --bigjet |
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Nov 18 2008, 09:38 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 24-April 08 Member No.: 188475 OS: none
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Hey, I ran across a DOS 7.10 release that claimed to be "free" .. is this true? I didn't think MS-DOS was ever "free". I can give a mod or admin the link if they want to check it out. (I think I still have it somewhere.) Personally, I consider it "abandonware", but I'm curious to know if it's actually free or not. Rest assured, it is NOT. Abandonware means, from a legal standpoint, NOTHING. To be picky a product whose maker and copyright holder has defaulted and ceased activities AND did not sell the copyright to anyone else, can be considered "safe" as noone will ever sue you. A product from a Company that is still alive (and well alive) like MS is, may present more risks of being sued. Depending on the Laws that apply in your country, you may be prosecuted nonetheless by the Local Authorities, even without any copyright holder suing you. But there are several "alternate" DOSes that are either freeware or free for personal use. jaclaz |
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Nov 18 2008, 12:07 PM
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MSFN Junkie Group: Software Developers Posts: 3623 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none
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Actually, FreeDOS is not freeware, it is Free Software. Neither is it just free for personal use, it is free for commercial use or whatever. I wasn't referring specifically to Freedos: QUOTE (jaclaz) But there are several "alternate" DOSes that are either freeware or free for personal use. however you may want to tell this to the Freedos Authors: http://www.freedos.org/ QUOTE Welcome to FreeDOS FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system for IBM-PC compatible systems. If an operating system is software, calling Freedos "freeware" does not seem inaccurate to me. If you meant that it is both "free" (thus "freeware") and "Open Source", you are correct. jaclaz This post has been edited by jaclaz: Nov 18 2008, 12:07 PM |
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Nov 29 2008, 11:51 PM
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n00b ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 986 Joined: 21-August 06 Member No.: 108167 OS: Server 2008 x64
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Abandonware is software that is no longer sold or supported. That doesn't mean you are free to distribute or sell it. Should the company want to re-release it at some point, you would be taking from their profits. Because there's such a huge market for Windows 3.11 now. |
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Nov 30 2008, 12:22 AM
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WPI Guru Group: Software Developers Posts: 6077 Joined: 18-September 03 From: Pocatello, ID Member No.: 6960 OS: Vista Ultimate x86
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Just 2 add 2 more cents into the party here..
I have an MSDNAA account and they STILL list 3.11! While they do not list Windows 9x :S |
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