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post Mar 12 2006, 02:26 PM
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These versions are test builds and are pretty much stable. As usual, use them at your own risk.

A new final was released on November 9, 2009. If you were referred to this thread prior to November 9, please get the final from the main thread.

HFSLIP home page

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I hope tomcat76 doesn't mind me [tommyp] editting this post to add in a beta test build. See attachment for beta testing in preparation for the next final. Bugfixes:


There are no betas at the current time.



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You can help by checking if the binary removal files (2000SP4.EXT, XPSP1.EXT and XPSP2.EXT) cover everything. Download dumpdupes.cmd and place it in the main HFSLIP folder (alongside the normal HFSLIP executable). Run this tool AFTER you ran HFSLIP (it namely requires a SOURCE and a SOURCESS folder to compare). If there are any duplicate binaries that can be removed, a file called EXCLUDE.TXT will be created. Let me know if it contains additional files to those that already exist in the current removal files. This program can be used to check Windows 2000, XP and 2003 sources.
Dumpdupes.cmd has one limitation: it only checks for duplicates in the current sources. This tool would have to be run again whenever new hotfixes arrive in order to ensure the list is up to date. I'll probably make another tool that outputs a full list of any driver binary that isn't supposed to be loose in I386 once I evaluated the pros and cons of both.[attachment=25420:hfslip_beta_Mar30.zip]

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dziubek
post Apr 15 2006, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 15 2006, 02:48 PM) *
New final is coming up. I just need to do one more test.



Can you add information as a conclusion the work HFSLIP to the file HFSLIP.LOG (statistics)?

Such information appears during the work HFSLIP:

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10,906,496 bytes in 18 files
Total files:             18
Bytes before:    10,906,496
Bytes after:      3,914,106
After/Before:            35.89% compression
Time:                    27.56 seconds ( 0 hr  0 min 27.56 sec)
Throughput:             386.43 Kb/second
Microsoft (R) Cabinet Maker - Version 5.1.2600.2180
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved..

(I see this before starting XPIZE)

The good way would be this to checking efficiency driver compression smile.gif

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post Apr 15 2006, 08:10 AM
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What exactly is causing dziubek's problems with WU?

Everything is perfect on my end for XP. Just tested yesterday. Microsoft Update does not complain at all. smile.gif

Edit: @dziubek, although I think that adding that information to HFSLIP.LOG is a great idea, know that the information is generated by the MAKECAB module. Tomcat would have to do something like this:
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MAKECAB /F SP.DDF>>HFSLIP.LOG
although I think it would be more complicated than that.

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post Apr 15 2006, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 15 2006, 03:10 PM) *
What exactly is causing dziubek's problems with WU?

Everything is perfect on my end for XP. Just tested yesterday. Microsoft Update does not complain at all. smile.gif


I test HFSLIP _ 60415d.CMD. If he still not works WU. I will try very exactly to describe mine problem
Thanks for the interest.

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post Apr 15 2006, 08:16 AM
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dziubek, read my edited post.
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post Apr 15 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 15 2006, 03:16 PM) *
dziubek, read my edited post.



I read your post. I would add also different information personally :
for the example
* the capacity of the original installation (source)
* the capacity HFSLIPED of the installation
* the time of the work HFSLIP
* Information about how much the percentage the installation increased or reduced


I probably found the guilty one of my problem with WU.I will write about this by in several hours

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post Apr 15 2006, 02:43 PM
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RC1, folks... welcome.gif
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post Apr 16 2006, 07:43 AM
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Two questions :
1)is UPHClean slipstreamed or post-installed ?
It doesn't install on my computer. I've added an entry in WIHU to run specific softs to see if they can be installed at T-12 so I'll check this in a moment.
2)UpdateAgent2 is slipstreamed, right ?
I saw no installer in SOURCESS. The problem is that nLite doesn't remove it anymore. (I know, this sounds strange to update it and just after to remove it.)
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post Apr 16 2006, 07:50 AM
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UPHClean is post-installed at T-13 with the rest of the stuff in SVCPACK. You should find UPHClean.MSI in SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK. Make sure it is there.

Windows Update Agent 2.0 is definitely slipstreamed.

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I was pretty sure, I have a problem with UPHClean.
It's not the first time I put it in HF and it never got installed, while it has always been in SVCPACK.

Here is HFSLip.cmd from SVCPACK:
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@ECHO OFF
IF EXIST %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\CMDOW.EXE cmdow @ /HID
Title HFSLIP
FOR %%i IN (D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z) DO IF EXIST %%i:\I386\SVCPACK SET HFSLIP=%%i:\I386
REM MOVE/Y %SYSTEMROOT%\TEMP\Classic.wmz "%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\Skins"
FOR /F %%I IN ('DIR /B %SYSTEMROOT%\*.TMP') DO (
    ATTRIB -R %SYSTEMROOT%\%%I
    DEL /F /Q %SYSTEMROOT%\%%I
    )
SET PREP=%~dp0
CD /D %HFSLIP%
OEUPDATE Q823353
EXIT

I REMmed a line because I removed WMP with nLite.

HFSlip.log : http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=At...e=post&id=12184
(with my LastSession.ini 'cause it comes from anotherpost)


edit : UPHClean's name is exactly "UPHCLEAN.MSI".

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post Apr 16 2006, 07:59 AM
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Guess what, Camarade_Tux?

This is probably why UPHClean is not installed: A new version was released on 4/7/2006!

smile.gif

Edit: I'm having another feeling about this. This version and the one I already have are the same file size: 336,896 bytes.

@Tomcat: I noticed you removed KB905915 from your XP update list. According to the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:12 AM
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You're right : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...en&Hash=SY534SC

btw, I found something that is imho interesting in its readme.txt:
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INSTALLATION
============

To automatically install it (you need uphclean-setup.msi):
- Double click the setup.msi

To manually install it (you need a copy of uphclean.exe):

- Create a directory under Program Files for the service
(e.g. c:\program files\uphclean)
- Copy the program (uphclean.exe) to the directory
(e.g. c:\program files\uphclean\uphclean.exe)
- Open a command prompt on the computer
- Change directory where you copied the program
(e.g cd \program files\uphclean)
- Run the program with the -install switch to install the service and start it
(e.g. uphclean -install)

The service is set to automatically start when the computer boots so you will
not need to start it manually. Below I've listed the events that you will find
in the application log when it takes positive steps to unload profile hives.
However, I don't know how to get uphclean from a .msi file.

(and this will be appended to my previous post)

From readme.txt, removal instructions.
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If you manually installed:
- Run the program with the -remove switch to stop the service and remove it
(e.g. uphclean -remove)
- Remove the UPHClean directory under c:\program files
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post Apr 16 2006, 08:15 AM
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See if you can open UPHClean-Setup.msi using the attached tool.

[attachment removed]

We used to have to put this in HFTOOLS to extract MSI files. I think Tomcat/tommyp has somehow found a way around this (at least for msxml6.msi, I think). It's possible that you still have to put it in HFTOOLS - I hope Tomcat will be able to resolve this issue.

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 03:59 PM) *
According to the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.
The "IE 5.01SP4 only" part applies to 910620.

905915 = IE5.01 & IE6
910620 = IE5.01
912812 = IE5.01 & IE6

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 10:59 AM) *
@Tomcat: I noticed you removed KB905915 from your XP update list. According to the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.

I know I'm not Tomcat, but I kno why (well, almost know). A new IE update was released last week. Tomcat should have 912812 (which I'm sure he has)

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:19 AM
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He has it. Thanks!

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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 03:15 PM) *
See if you can open UPHClean-Setup.msi using the attached tool.

[attachment=12186:attachment]

We used to have to put this in HFTOOLS to extract MSI files. I think Tomcat/tommyp has somehow found a way around this (at least for msxml6.msi, I think). It's possible that you still have to put it in HFTOOLS - I hope Tomcat will come and resolve this issue.


It did not work, it produces no interesting file.
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post Apr 16 2006, 08:24 AM
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@Camarade_Tux

There's no need to REM out that line if you're using that old version of HFSLIP because that line doesn't work anyway. You'll have to REM out the line in a newer version, though, as it works *now*.

Alternatively, delete CLASSIC.WM_ from the SOURCE folder. HFSLIP only adds that line if the file exists. In fact, since you're removing WMP with nLite I suggest you remove CLASSIC.WM_ as it's being copied into the Windows folder through TXTSETUP.SIF. I don't think nLite prevents that from happening.

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:24 AM
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That's odd. I see the file it produces. Oh, well.

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QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 04:19 PM) *
Tomcat - see if you can help with Camarade_Tux's problem.
What problem? You said there's a newer version...

QUOTE (the_guy @ Apr 16 2006, 04:16 PM) *
I know I'm not Tomcat, but I kno why (well, almost know). A new IE update was released last week. Tomcat should have 912812 (which I'm sure he has)
Now that I got you here... smile.gif

If you only take OS updates into account, the FrontPage Server Extensions update only applies to Windows 2003. For Windows 2000 and Windows XP it only applies to components that don't come stock with these OS's (it's an Office XP update there).

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:35 AM
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Ignore that for now. Two questions:

(1) Do you still need MSICabExtract.exe in HFTOOLS for any MSI files?
(2) Is there actually a new version of UPHClean and will redownloading it solve Camarade_Tux's issue with it not installing?
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