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post Jun 20 2006, 12:16 PM
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The latest version of what? HFSLIP?

The latest versions of HFSLIP add a line into HFSLIPWU.INF to satisfy HfNetChk as far as KB839645 for XPSP1 is concerned. Is that line with "ProtocolDefaults" present? If not, do you have the proper CD tags in your SOURCE folder?

KB914798 is installed during SVCPACK (HFSLIP doesn't integrate it or even open it). I could add in the registry line you need but it will be overwritten when the hotfix installs itself so it's pointless.
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post Jun 20 2006, 01:29 PM
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hi!
have 1 question: would it be possible to have an unattended or totally automated HFSLIPping? newwink.gif
like double-clicking on the cmd file would already start with slipstreaming ... like no more prompts ... like HFANSWER.inf takes care of everything when valueas have already been set? newwink.gif
i understand though that we have to ensure that directions need to read & followed by users.
thanks!
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post Jun 20 2006, 07:23 PM
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Strictly speaking, it was possible to make HFSLIP completely unattended ever since HFANSWER.INI was introduced. You need to preset every variable present in that file for which you normally get a prompt, plus add two more variables. I'm not mentioning these variables and I'd prefer them not to be actively discussed here for these reasons:

- people need to know what the implications are of using HFSLIP
- if you forget to set some variables HFSLIP might fail without you knowing it
- it's bad for troubleshooting problems
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Kiki Burgh
post Jun 21 2006, 11:29 AM
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thanks Tomcat! smile.gif
have successfully created a new build once again ...

for the peeps who have been using HFSLIP for quite sometime, it's just truly fine to go through the process (& we could always go the source & read some stuff there newwink.gif) ...

i'm just thinking we could get past the the following introduction quicker:

After reading the above disclaimer and GPL License.....
Press any key to continue . . .

HFSLIP IS TO BE USED FOR CD INSTALLATIONS
Press any key to continue . . .

SOURCE - Dump your installation CD source here
Press any key to continue . . .

Slipstream means NO NEED FOR OEM FOLDER.
Press any key to continue . . .

Learn more about the HFCLEANUP folder...
*Reduce your source, an NLITE alternative <Do it at your own risk>
Press any key to continue . . .

WindowsUpdate questions without the WU.TXT file attached will be ignored.
Press any key to continue . . .

Type in the words I HAVE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS affirming you have read them.
I HAVE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS

the introduction of HFANSWER.ini is truly great ... it is like having WINNT.sif (pardon the comparison if it seems a bit misplaced laugh.gif )
but then again, please know i completely understand the rationale for making users aware of the implications of using HFSLIP yes.gif

many thanks!

btw, i was kind of anxious a while back to get to the forums but there was a database error of sort ... it got me really worried no.gif ... but it was a relief to have read from the main page the post of Alanoll

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post Jun 21 2006, 11:33 AM
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@Camarade_Tux...

60621a also adds a reg hack for KB916281. If neither this hack nor the one for KB839645 work, I'll remove them.

Personally, I doubt the KB916281 hack will work. HFSLIP sets the value to "2", but then the hotfix does this:

"%windir%\system32\reg.exe add ""HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB914798"" /v Installed /t REG_DWORD /d 00000001 /f"

This is obviously a MS/HfNetChk screwup. They both want something else.
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post Jun 21 2006, 12:13 PM
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ha! ha!
i actually guessed right the 2nd 1 --- "A**H***"TEST!

another HA! HA! smile.gif

Thanks TC!
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post Jun 21 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Jun 21 2006, 06:33 PM) *
@Camarade_Tux...

60621a also adds a reg hack for KB916281. If neither this hack nor the one for KB839645 work, I'll remove them.

Personally, I doubt the KB916281 hack will work. HFSLIP sets the value to "2", but then the hotfix does this:

"%windir%\system32\reg.exe add ""HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB914798"" /v Installed /t REG_DWORD /d 00000001 /f"

This is obviously a MS/HfNetChk screwup. They both want something else.


I'll try asap, but my test machine with VMWare just walked away. confused.gif
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post Jun 22 2006, 11:47 AM
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hi!
i did about 2 ISOs & installed these rightafer ... here's what i found out using 60621a:

(1) WORK directory is not being deleted after the entire process ends ...
(2) at T-13 installation was interrupted by these errors (RC installation) ... please see attached screenshots
(3) it was the 1st time i saw XPize (XPizev44Full.exe) being slipstreamed ... (as i do not recall seeing this portion ever in all my previous builds & installs) ... it gave out the message it was being slipstreamed, then followed by success ... BUT showed something like File Not Founding ... my apologies if i wasn't able to copy & paste that exact portion of slipstreaming ... i was too sleepy to have thought about copy & paste sad.gif i have XPIZESW=/S /notask in HFANSWER.ini

i continued on 2x & finished the installation & everything seemed normal except that RC was not present anymore & no program group was present any longer for Xpize ... i think though that it installed ... or slipstreamed rather ... as the normal XP screens are not present (& it's not present in Add/Remove Programs) ... even tried to copy files to see if it'd be the same if XPize were installed correctly (yes it did like how XPize would --- animated icons when copying/pasting) ... so i guess there's nothing wrong with the last 1 ... it's just weird ...

the only things i did different this time were:
(1) added WindowsXP-KB319740-v5-x86-ENU.exe to HF
(2) added the following in HFAAO:
a. [savefile]060617203355_wga_tray_remover_Addon.cab
b. td_notepadplus_launcher_addon.cab
c. Kels_UniversalSilentSwitchFinder_addon_v1.CAB
(3) use the other 2 unrevealed variables with its default values newwink.gif

btw, my HFSLIP run time went up to: 33m57s ... sad.gif

thanks!

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post Jun 22 2006, 02:26 PM
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Can I see your txtsetup.sif and dosnet.inf files?
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post Jun 22 2006, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE
use the other 2 unrevealed variables with its default values
One of these 'unrevealed' variables (if I am correct about the two that you are using) causes the WORK directory to remain.

I prefer not to say which one because Tomcat does not want us to discuss it, but if I am right about the variables, you should be able to figure it out.

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post Jun 22 2006, 03:18 PM
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@Tomcat, quick question: What exactly is the purpose of setting the variable 'BBIN' in the MAKEISO section (as in the following line)? The usage seems inconsistent because you switch between BOOT.BIN and %BBIN%.
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FOR /F %%I IN ('DIR/B HFTOOLS\BOOT.BIN') DO SET BBIN=%%I
Plus, wouldn't it make more sense to do just SET BBIN=BOOT.INI in this line if you leave the variable?

Just wondering...newwink.gif
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Kiki Burgh
post Jun 22 2006, 03:29 PM
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thanks Super-Magician! got it sir! i'll do the experiment later. smile.gif
TC, i'll post it as soon as i can ... newwink.gif

btw, would there be any use for us to have the WORK dir out there?

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post Jun 22 2006, 03:46 PM
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I'll have to ask TommyP is there's a reason for not deleting the WORK directory in certain cases. There's no need for you to keep it, Kiki.
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Kiki Burgh
post Jun 22 2006, 03:48 PM
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thanks TC! smile.gif
i wouldn't mind having it there if it could be of any use

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post Jun 22 2006, 03:56 PM
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The work directory was not deleted in certain cases is because it came in handy when developing hfslip. Sometimes I had to see what was happening in the work directories. I guess you are playing with another variable in the INI file. You probably want to not include that variable in there.
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Kiki Burgh
post Jun 23 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Jun 23 2006, 04:26 AM) *
Can I see your txtsetup.sif and dosnet.inf files?
hi TC! attached are the files you've requested ...
btw, i trimmed down some of the stuff in my HFAAO dir & have created only 1 build earlier ... i think it would be much better this time but i was so dead tired that i wasn't able to test it yet ... i am confident though that it won't give me any headache ... smile.gif
oh, i was also able to copy the XPize part that i mentioned earlier ...

Microsoft ® Cabinet Maker - Version (32) 1.00.0601 (03/18/97)
Copyright © Microsoft Corp 1993-1997. All rights reserved.

Please wait while HFSLIP slipstreams XPize. This may take a while.
Slipstreaming XPize completed.
File Not Found
The system cannot find the file specified.
Microsoft ® Cabinet Maker - Version (32) 1.00.0601 (03/18/97)
Copyright © Microsoft Corp 1993-1997. All rights reserved.


again, come the GUI, no more shortcuts are there for XPize (w/c i liked better newwink.gif) but it was just strange ... i have a strong inkling this was brought about by rytukz_Vista_Icons_Pack_Ultimate_System_Patch_addon_1.1.cab ... i think this addon & XPize basically do the same thing ... 1 overwrites the other ...
thanks!

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post Jun 23 2006, 11:33 AM
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Do you have the TXTSETUP.SIF from before it was nLited? I don't want to troubleshoot that....
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post Jun 23 2006, 12:03 PM
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sorry for that 1 TC ... sad.gif
i'll get my hands on it ...
just an fyi ... i only used nLite as an alt to HFCLEANUP (nothing else) ... to remove the ff:
briefcase
charmap
internet games
keyboards
non-english languages
images & backgrounds
music samples
windows sounds
color scheme
msn explorer
windows messenger
ms agent
out of the box experience
search assistant
service pack messages
tour
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With latest test version and latest windows script, I still get the same report from HFNetChk.

CODE
Patch NOT Installed     MS04-024     Q839645
    The registry key
    **Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
    Settings\ZoneMap\ProtocolDefaults\shell**  does not exist.  It is
    required for this patch to be considered installed.


    Patch NOT Installed     MS06-011     Q914798
    The registry key **SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows
    XP\SP2\KB914798** should have a value of 2.  It has a value of 1.


And the other ones with file version greater than expected.


Looks OK to me. cool.gif
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post Jun 24 2006, 08:39 AM
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To fix the 914798 problem, try installing the v2 of the update. I just found out that it was re-released on this month's patch tuesday.

Also, for the other problem, try putting the attached .inf in your hfsvcpack folder. It should work as all the binaries in 839645 are replaced by later updates.

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