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Oct 17 2005, 03:39 PM
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Follow the rules please :-) Group: Patrons Posts: 6783 Joined: 14-November 03 From: Bangalore, India Member No.: 9470
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This project now has its own forum! Thanks xper
For any other specific topics, start a new topic. You could continue the general posts in this thread. |
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Oct 17 2005, 04:15 PM
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OS modder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1467 Joined: 7-March 05 From: behind something Member No.: 46675
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Hey Gurgle this is cool. I thought eventually it would get pinned but this WOW
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Oct 17 2005, 05:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 30-September 05 Member No.: 75199
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Hey guys, I just want to know how different is this compared to AutoPatcher 2000?
I also suggest that bittorrent be used so that leechers share on the burden of bandwidth (if ever this gets released) |
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Oct 17 2005, 06:20 PM
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Follow the rules please :-) Group: Patrons Posts: 6783 Joined: 14-November 03 From: Bangalore, India Member No.: 9470
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AutoPatcher is for installing updates AFTER windows is installed - leads to messiness.
Whereas hotstream pack integrates into the base install, so you have a clean updated install, right from the start. |
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Oct 17 2005, 06:43 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 23-March 05 From: Herndon, VA Member No.: 48937
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Wow, when I first read "topic closed" I looked a little...
But then it hit me, Gurglemeyer got his own well deserved realm!! If you guys decide to go the torrent (or any p2p) route I'm all in for it and willing to seed this puppy indefanently, it is the absolute very very least I can do in my part to help and show my appreciation of an undertaking that will probably never receive the recognition and gratitude it deserves. |
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Oct 17 2005, 09:58 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 29-May 05 Member No.: 58067
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I'm glad this project has it's own board now. Gurgelmeyer has spent darn almost a year on this thing, finally it has it's own place on MSFN.
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Oct 17 2005, 11:30 PM
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Will's Blog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 920 Joined: 7-June 02 From: U.S.A Member No.: 1403 OS: Vista Ultimate x86
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Well lets discuss Bittorrent for a minute.
Perhaps I can run a trackerless one. For information on trackerless torrents see: http://www.bittorrent.com/trackerless.html Also, see: http://pompone.cs.ucsb.edu/~msa/reading/ma...ov_kademlia.pdf Also interesting: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/c...y02scalable.pdf So what do you think of that idea? Speificly, Gurgelmeyer, what do you think about the issue? That is, do I have permission first off, do you even like bittorent, too much of a hasle?, love the idea, would rather do it yourself, etc. |
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Oct 18 2005, 02:42 PM
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Follow the rules please :-) Group: Patrons Posts: 6783 Joined: 14-November 03 From: Bangalore, India Member No.: 9470
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I am in with war59312 on this - prev post about torrent dl for hotstream.
And also, downloading thru torrents is not difficult at all - you just need a 100 KB torrent client - http://utorrent.com/ |
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Oct 18 2005, 03:37 PM
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OS modder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1467 Joined: 7-March 05 From: behind something Member No.: 46675
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Is 5.1 out yet?
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Oct 18 2005, 05:23 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 37699 |
I am in with war59312 on this - prev post about torrent dl for hotstream. And also, downloading thru torrents is not difficult at all - you just need a 100 KB torrent client - http://utorrent.com/ I strongly agree, and I will gladly seed for a couple of days to get this thing started, hell, I might throw together a Torrent, if anyone has a good tip for tracker (preferably one with litttle to no Warez hanging around. Spreading the Torrent to the Warez-trackers is easy, but the torrent should be linked to a legal tracker, for obvious reasons, the Warez-people get their stuff anyways, sooner or later). |
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Oct 19 2005, 03:38 AM
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win2k Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 23-November 04 From: Somewhere.. Member No.: 37147 OS: 2000
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the thing is, I acualy cant understand that MSFN doesn't already HAVE its own torrent tracker, after all, it IS hosting a couple of great projects,
(just an idea though), |
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Oct 19 2005, 12:46 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 29-May 05 Member No.: 58067
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Does Gurgelmeyer even realize that the thread has been moved yet? Sorry just seems like its been a few days since I've heard anthing out of him.
BTW I think a torrent tracker would be a good idea. |
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Oct 19 2005, 01:48 PM
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OS modder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1467 Joined: 7-March 05 From: behind something Member No.: 46675
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I emailed him to let him know
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Oct 19 2005, 02:37 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 29-May 05 Member No.: 58067
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Excellent
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Oct 19 2005, 04:27 PM
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Gurgelmeyer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 27-January 05 Member No.: 42248
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Hi everyone - I know now
Thanks to xper for creating this forum I've spent three entire days bugfixing the DTC / COM+ update 902400 so no one will experience any of the problems mentioned in KB909444 when installing USP 5 SR-1. Apart from the security issue this particular security update fixes tons of other bugs because it replaces the Post-SP4 COM+ Update Rollups 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, and 34 - none of which are available for direct download btw. USP 5.0 contained the latest at the time, which was 34. Furthermore I've corrected an old bug which somtimes caused Setup to spontaneously reboot the computer when installing DTC (used to happen to me all the time - quite annoying actually). I'd like to apologize to anyone who has tried to send me PM's - my inbox is FULL (I'll empty it now of course) About torrents - I'm an absolute noob when it comes to file sharing. I'd much prefer just to upload it somewhere and let someone do what's necessary to actually share it (I'm paying per byte too). Please feel free to consider it shareware and upload/share it as you like. I don't mind Right now I'm looking for a place to upload USP 5.0 SR-1 ---- anyone? Best regards Gurgelmeyer |
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Oct 19 2005, 06:45 PM
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Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 29-May 05 Member No.: 58067
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How about FileFront or something similar? I'm not too familiar with download sites, so somebody can probably think of something better.
I'd like to stay away from sites like MegaUpload, youshareit, etc. Something as honest as the work you've done would deserves a better hosting because it become lost among terabytes of warez and pr0n at one of those types of sites. |
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Oct 19 2005, 08:36 PM
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MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1298 Joined: 12-March 05 From: United States Member No.: 47483 OS: none
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Maybe xper can make Gurgel mod of his forum? And to solve the download server problem, you can try allowing only SP4 cd's and then creating a patch for those files. Or you can use Binary Delta Compression (search MS for it), the technology that MS uses for their express installs.
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Oct 20 2005, 05:49 AM
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win2k Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 23-November 04 From: Somewhere.. Member No.: 37147 OS: 2000
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Here's a question for gurglemeyer
what about Future updates, the thing is, its a 220Mebs download, but also a 220megs upload (for those who share it). Im willing to share the file with 20users a month ( about 4GB of files). So now im asking, is it posible to make it so that IF any changes should be made, to NOT repack the whole fill but just make a small fix for it to insert after the main USP file... bandwidth cost a awfull lot a money, so i guess we all whant it to be wel-spend. Take care and, - if anyone gets the torrent thingy up. let me know... |
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Oct 20 2005, 01:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 30-September 05 Member No.: 75199
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The thing that makes torrents great is that it lessens the burden of bandwidth to the server by forcing every downloader/leecher to share/upload some of the parts making data transfer efficient. That's why I also suggest using torrents.
Also, by using bittorrent, users (like -I-) can easily share the bandwidth by being like a server for the files (I think the technical term here is seeding). Users can also track how much they have downloaded and uploaded so they can know if they have exceeded their bandwidth usage, etc. Anyway, I'm reallly looking forward to USP 5.1 getting released ASAP. |
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Oct 20 2005, 02:13 PM
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Gurgelmeyer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 27-January 05 Member No.: 42248
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Hi
Technically it is possible to make a non-cumulative service pack, which would require SP4. Maybe I should look into that again Best regards, Gurgelmeyer :B |
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