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How to install from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI, Lets try to make it easy for everyone...

ilko_t View Member Profile	Nov 2 2009, 06:07 PM Post #621
Friend of MSFN Group: Moderator Posts: 846 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 117812	1) What Windows version did you put on it? 2) Did you select/move the radio button FIXED/REMOVABLE usb disk type? It should be on FIXED for your case.

smokada View Member Profile	Nov 5 2009, 03:54 PM Post #622
Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 5-November 09 Member No.: 266203 OS: XP Pro x86	it's possible to add a option to boot from internal HDD?

ilko_t View Member Profile	Nov 5 2009, 06:03 PM Post #623
Friend of MSFN Group: Moderator Posts: 846 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 117812	To grub4dos boot menu? Just add this to menu.lst on the USB disk: CODE title Boot from first internal disk map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) map --hook chainloader (hd0)+1 rootnoverify (hd0)

tenthor View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 07:05 AM Post #624
Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 9-November 09 Member No.: 266572 OS: XP Home	Hi, Trying to install new WinXPPro on the Asus Eee 1005HA (on the 2. free partition), where I have already systems WinXpHome (1. partittion) and Ubuntu (3. extended partition) I found the next problem, what is probably the fault of BIOS. The actual boot manager is GRUB from linux in the MBR. I formatted my Kingston 1Gb pendrive with RMPrepUSB, options Boot as HDD / XP bootable. Settings in WinSetupFromUSB: - Force target disc drive: Removable - BOOT.INI adjustments: DiskNR 0, PartitionNr 2 At copying boot files get a message about problem around installing GRUB (log bellow), but it finishes the full process (copying Win files, etc.) CODE 2009/11/09 03:38:21- Checking if grub4dos is installed properly 2009/11/09 03:38:21- grub4dos BS/MBR and files are NOT installed properly 2009/11/09 03:38:21- Installing grub4dos BS/MBR and files 2009/11/09 03:38:21- Backing up MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:21- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe -s=mbrdisk1-20091109-033439.dat -t (hd1) 2009/11/09 03:38:23- Backed up MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:23- Backing up BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:25- Backed up BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:25- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:27- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:28- Grub4dos bootsector not found 2009/11/09 03:38:28- Checking for grldr string in MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:30- Saved MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:31- Grub4dos MBR not found 2009/11/09 03:38:31- Installing grub4dos bootsector to (hd1,0) 2009/11/09 03:38:31- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe (hd1,0) 2009/11/09 03:38:35- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:37- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/09 03:38:38- Grub4dos bootsector not found 2009/11/09 03:38:38- Could not install grub4dos bootsector 2009/11/09 03:38:42- Installing grub4dos MBR to (hd1) 2009/11/09 03:38:42- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe (hd1) 2009/11/09 03:38:46- Checking for grldr string in MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:48- Saved MBR of disk #1 2009/11/09 03:38:49- Grub4dos MBR found 2009/11/09 03:38:49- Copying grldr 2009/11/09 03:38:50- Copying menu.lst 2009/11/09 03:38:50- Copying default 2009/11/09 03:38:50- grub4dos installed After reboot in BIOS I set the boot order: - removable - hard disk (sees 2 hard disks: the original Hitachi and the prepared USB pendrive) Unfortunately at hard disk selection I can only choose BETWEEN Hitachi and USB and not to SET ORDER. So if I set Hitachi the boot order looks like - removable - Hitachi In this case NOTHING happens, as if no USB device connected (starts the old Linux GRUB) If I select USB as Hard disk then the boot order is - removable - USB In this case starts the Win setup process, but the Setup program only sees the USB drive/partition and not the Hitachi partitions where should be install the new WinXPPro In both case the first "removable" parameter as boot device has no effect, everything depends what I set up (as a second boot device) for hard disk (Hitachi or prepared USB) I hope my problem is understandable (because of my poor English) and somebody have solution for my problem. Thanks in advance

jaclaz View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 07:39 AM Post #625
MSFN SuperB Group: Software Developers Posts: 5035 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none	It's not clear WHEN the internal hard disk is not seen. Try this: boot from the USB device and press "c" at the grub4dos choices. You will get to the grub4dos command prompt. Type in it CODE find ( and press [TAB] key. You should see a (hd0) and a (hd1) devices. Has the source the drivers (SATA) for the internal hard disk integrated, right? jaclaz

tenthor View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 08:31 AM Post #626
Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 9-November 09 Member No.: 266572 OS: XP Home	The BIOS Boot Settings section is (A) Boot device priority 1st boot device Removable device 2nd boot device HDD: Hitachi <<<< this value depends from the next setting (B) Hard disk drives 1st drive HDD: Hitachi 2nd drive USB: Kingston (If pendrive isn't plugged in then no choice available) So, if I choose HDD:Hitachi at (B) Hard disk drives as a (A) 2nd boot device then nothing happens, as if no USB device connected (starts the old boot process) If I choose USB:Kingston at (B) Hard disk drives as a (A) 2nd boot device then starts the boot process from pendrive, but when the setup process ask where to install the system, it shows only the pendrives partition as possible choice. GRUB4DOS displax hd0 hd1 and rd as possible disks ... and SATA drivers for the internal hard disk isn't integrated into Windows (original WinXP+SP3 used as source)

asriphet View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 08:45 AM Post #627
Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 16-September 09 Member No.: 260651 OS: Windows 7 x86	it's possible to prepare xp / win7 x86 / win7 x64 in one UFD?

jaclaz View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 09:24 AM Post #628
MSFN SuperB Group: Software Developers Posts: 5035 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none	QUOTE (tenthor @ Nov 9 2009, 03:31 PM) GRUB4DOS displax hd0 hd1 and rd as possible disks Good. QUOTE (tenthor @ Nov 9 2009, 03:31 PM) ... and SATA drivers for the internal hard disk isn't integrated into Windows (original WinXP+SP3 used as source) ... and how do you expect that setup can see the internal SATA drive without it's drivers? @asriphet Re-read, this time attentively, post #1 QUOTE (ilko_t @ Jul 11 2008, 09:31 PM) Here comes the first GUI for our little project. What it can be used for adding to your USB stick/disk: - multiple Windows XP/2kX sources in the same partition (up to 10). They have to be in the first partition of the disk! Existing folders ~BT and ~LS and TXTSETUP.SIF will be renamed, and SETUPLDR.BIN and SETUPDD.SYS patched against the new names. Checksum checks are also corrected. BTS OEM folders are supported and renamed accordingly. - BartPE/WinBulder/UBCD4Win/WinFLPC (NOT ramdisk versions) to any primary partition. Multiple BartPE for example, in the SAME partition are NOT supported. Neither is the mix of them on a single partition. - Vista/Windows 7 setup to different primary partitions. Multiple Vista sources in the SAME partition are NOT supported. Place your second Vista setup in another partition. It can be placed on any primary partition. - PartedMagic, a friendly Linux distro including GParted- open source partition manager. - SyLinux bootsector, and optionally a directory, containing (Linux) distro booting off SysLinux. For example you may extract UBCD411.ISO, and point it to this folder. Entire contents will be copied and entry for SysLinux will be added to the boot menu. Please read "Multiple Vista" as "Multiple Vista or Windows 7". jaclaz This post has been edited by jaclaz: Nov 9 2009, 09:25 AM

asriphet View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 10:23 AM Post #629
Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 16-September 09 Member No.: 260651 OS: Windows 7 x86	QUOTE (jaclaz @ Nov 9 2009, 10:24 PM) @asriphet Re-read, this time attentively, post #1 Thank jaclaz for fast reply I was tried as follow methods in several times but I can't get it done. 1) To install dummydisk driver which included in WinSetupFromUSB package. 2) To partition my UDF as partition#1,#2 and #3 note: partition#1 -> primary, active. partition#2 -> primary. partition#3 -> primary. 3) To run WinSetupFromUSB_0-2-3.exe and get partition#1 - WinXP installation source. partition#2 - Win7 x86 installation source. partition#3 - Win7 x64 installation source. its done without any problems. 4) To try installation WinXP -> Success. 5) To try installation Win7 x86 -> Win7 x86 setup lunched but it can't found source folder. I was tried to continue installation with browe button but i can't see source folder also partition#2 is missing. 6) To try installation Win7 x64 -> it same as Win7 x86 setup process above. Sorry for my English. This post has been edited by jaclaz: Nov 9 2009, 12:25 PM

jaclaz View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 12:44 PM Post #630
MSFN SuperB Group: Software Developers Posts: 5035 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none	Hmmm, strange. However one Windows 7 can co-live on the same primary partition as the (one or various) XP's. In other words: 1st partition one or more XP + 1 instance of 7 2nd partition "other" version of 7 64 bit version were having some problems, though. You may wait for a reply by ilko_t, he should be able to better clear the matter and help you specifically. Rest assured , your English is better than you think. jaclaz

ilko_t View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM Post #631
Friend of MSFN Group: Moderator Posts: 846 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 117812	I'd guess sticks seen as removable are displayed the same way as in XP/2003- only one partition can be used. To go around that- either flip the removable bit and use separate partitions as described, or put the other sources in their own folders, initiating setup by entering recovery mode using the one in root-->command prompt and manually executing setup.exe for the desired version. Haven't played much yet with Vista/7...

tenthor View Member Profile	Nov 9 2009, 06:51 PM Post #632
Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 9-November 09 Member No.: 266572 OS: XP Home	QUOTE ... and how do you expect that setup can see the internal SATA drive without it's drivers? thanks for your help

jaclaz View Member Profile	Nov 10 2009, 04:03 AM Post #633
MSFN SuperB Group: Software Developers Posts: 5035 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none	QUOTE (asriphet @ Nov 9 2009, 05:23 PM) 5) To try installation Win7 x86 -> Win7 x86 setup lunched but it can't found source folder. I was tried to continue installation with browe button but i can't see source folder also partition#2 is missing. 6) To try installation Win7 x64 -> it same as Win7 x86 setup process above. As a workaround. when you are at the grub4dos choice, press "c" to get to command line. In it type: CODE geometry (hd0) [ENTER] and CODE geometry (hd1) [ENTER] in order to make sure which of the two is the stick (it should be (hd0) as the drives have not been yet exchanged). Then issue the command: CODE makeactive (hd0,1) [ENTER] to make the second partition active OR CODE makeactive (hd0,2) [ENTER] to make the third partition active. Then issue the commands: CODE find --set-root /menu.lst [ENTER] CODE configfile /menu.lst [ENTER] to get back to the choices. In this cases BOOTMGR and /boot/BCD have to be in the same partition that is made active. Report what happens. If this approach works, you can add the makeactive commands in the menu.lst. jaclaz

cdob View Member Profile	Nov 10 2009, 03:31 PM Post #634
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 347 Joined: 29-September 05 Member No.: 74988	Multiple boot partitions on the same drive: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=7138 As far as I remember, XP maps (hd0,0) at USB flash drive. Maybe it't time to split this multi partitions posts.

Axxoul View Member Profile	Nov 12 2009, 01:45 PM Post #635
Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 12-November 09 Member No.: 266997 OS: XP MCE	Hi! First off thanks to everyone for their support. I have a Fujitsu Simens laptop but my disk CD drive is broken. Have tried to boot from my XP CD from an external disk drive but i get the NTDETECT failed error. So installing from a USB key is my last resort (although i will try the ram method) I have used the latest version of WinSetupFromUSB. I have XP MCE SP3. I have attached the log file. However when I reboot, i only get a GRUB4DOS commandline. (booting works fine) I went back and edited the first boot command to put errorcheck on and this is what i get : CODE configfile /menu.lst Error 11 : Unrecognised device string, or you omitted the required DEVICE part which should lead the filename. I opened a commandline and entered the following: CODE >> root (hd0,0) filesystem is NTFS, partition type 0x07 >> configfile /menu.lst Error 15: File not found Anyone have any tips? Here is my WinSetupFromUSB.log : CODE 2009/11/12 19:17:14- WinSetupFromUSB 0.2.3 started 2009/11/12 19:17:14- OS: WIN_XP Architecture type: X86 ServicePack: Service Pack 3 OS Language: 0409 2009/11/12 19:17:14- Getting USB drives information 2009/11/12 19:17:14- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1 2009/11/12 19:17:14- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #0 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -1 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #1 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Target drive selected- D: 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D: 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Total source size- 0 MB 2009/11/12 19:17:15- Target space available- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:17:35- Windows source selected- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- Source version- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- Service Pack- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- AMD64 flag- 0 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Total source size- 538.6 MB 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Target space available- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Windows source selected- E: 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Source version- Windows XP Professional 2009/11/12 19:18:22- Service Pack- Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 2009/11/12 19:18:22- AMD64 flag- 0 2009/11/12 19:18:23- Getting USB drives information 2009/11/12 19:18:23- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1 2009/11/12 19:18:23- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #0 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -1 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #1 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Target drive selected- D: 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D: 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Total source size- 538.6 MB 2009/11/12 19:18:24- Target space available- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:18:24- RMPrepUSB launched 2009/11/12 19:18:55- RMPrepUSB closed 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Getting USB drives information 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -1 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #1 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Target drive selected- D: 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D: 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Total target size avialable- 1980 MB 2009/11/12 19:19:00- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:19:01- Total source size- 538.6 MB 2009/11/12 19:19:01- Target space available- 1980 MB 2009/11/12 19:19:24- Removing TEMP folder 2009/11/12 19:19:24- Checking if grub4dos is installed properly 2009/11/12 19:19:24- grub4dos BS/MBR and files are NOT installed properly 2009/11/12 19:19:24- Installing grub4dos BS/MBR and files 2009/11/12 19:19:24- Backing up MBR of disk #1 2009/11/12 19:19:24- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe -s=mbrdisk1-20091112-191713.dat -t (hd1) 2009/11/12 19:19:26- Backed up MBR of disk #1 2009/11/12 19:19:26- Backing up BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:28- Backed up BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:28- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:30- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:31- Grub4dos bootsector not found 2009/11/12 19:19:31- Checking for grldr string in MBR of disk #1 2009/11/12 19:19:33- Saved MBR of disk #1 2009/11/12 19:19:35- Grub4dos MBR not found 2009/11/12 19:19:35- Installing grub4dos bootsector to (hd1,0) 2009/11/12 19:19:35- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe (hd1,0) 2009/11/12 19:19:35- Launching fsutil volume dismount D: 2009/11/12 19:19:39- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:41- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #0 2009/11/12 19:19:42- Grub4dos bootsector found 2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying grldr 2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying menu.lst 2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying default 2009/11/12 19:19:42- grub4dos installed 2009/11/12 19:19:44- DOSNET.INF parsed, 117 files for ~BT folder 2009/11/12 19:19:44- E:\I386\disk1---> C:\WinSetupFromUSB\TEMP\$WIN_NT$.~BT\disk101 2009/11/12 19:19:51- Preparing ~BT folder completed 2009/11/12 19:19:51- Launching MkMigrateInf3.cmd 2009/11/12 19:19:54- Adding lines for binifix5.cmd and start64.exe 2009/11/12 19:19:54- Preparing ~BT folder and boot files 2009/11/12 19:19:54- Preparing ~LS folder 2009/11/12 19:20:00- Preparing BOOT.INI 2009/11/12 19:20:00- Preparing winsetup.lst 2009/11/12 19:20:00- Copy started 2009/11/12 19:20:51- E:\I386\EULA.TXT---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\EULA.TXT 2009/11/12 19:20:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\EULA.TXT 0 fil(er) copied. 2009/11/12 19:25:51- E:\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE 2009/11/12 19:25:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE 0 fil(er) copied. 2009/11/12 19:25:51- E:\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE 2009/11/12 19:25:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE 0 fil(er) copied. 2009/11/12 19:34:23- Copying completed. Took: 862.495403186718 seconds 2009/11/12 19:34:23- Fixing unattended section in winnt.sif 2009/11/12 19:34:23- setupORG.exe not found, replacing the original file 2009/11/12 19:34:24- OEMPreinstall found, editing presetup.cmd 2009/11/12 19:34:24- Removing duplicate entries in boot.ini 2009/11/12 19:34:48- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:34:48- Total source size- 0 MB 2009/11/12 19:34:48- Target space available- 1980 MB 2009/11/12 19:34:48- Getting USB drives information 2009/11/12 19:34:49- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1 2009/11/12 19:34:49- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #0 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -1 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #1 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Target drive selected- D: 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D: 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Checking sizes... 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Total source size- 0 MB 2009/11/12 19:34:50- Target space available- 1432 MB 2009/11/12 19:40:16- ---------------------------------Program quited----------------------------------------------- Apprently 3 files were not copied : AUTOFMT.EXE, AUTOCHK.EXE and EULA.TXT. (I deleted all other lines regarding copying) Thanks! This post has been edited by Axxoul: Nov 12 2009, 01:46 PM

ilko_t View Member Profile	Nov 12 2009, 02:09 PM Post #636
Friend of MSFN Group: Moderator Posts: 846 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 117812	Is menu.lst in root of the USB stick? Are those 3 files in D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\ ? Try in grub4dos command line to type: cat (fd0)/menu.lst cat (fd1)/menu.lst cat (hd0,0)/menu.lst Does any of them find and print menu.lst? Which one? FD0?

Axxoul View Member Profile	Nov 12 2009, 03:33 PM Post #637
Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 12-November 09 Member No.: 266997 OS: XP MCE	All files are where they are supposed to be. the cat (fd0)/menu.lst prints the menu.lst file all other commands give me "Error 15: File not found" Thanks for the fast reply btw

ilko_t View Member Profile	Nov 12 2009, 04:18 PM Post #638
Friend of MSFN Group: Moderator Posts: 846 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 117812	Your stick is presented by BIOS as a floppy. Try to find an option in BIOS for USB emulation type: http://www.msfn.org/board/problem-usbkey-i...on-t139446.html

Axxoul View Member Profile	Nov 13 2009, 04:56 AM Post #639
Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 12-November 09 Member No.: 266997 OS: XP MCE	Thanks ilko, i think that was the problem My bios does have USB HDD but my usb stick only shows under USB KEY which i guess is a floppy... Pretty weird since my other usb key with ubuntu boots up fine. Both keys are 2Gigs. You think the " Install XP from a RAM loaded ISO image " method might work in this case? or maybe " Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB "? This post has been edited by Axxoul: Nov 13 2009, 05:17 AM

jaclaz View Member Profile	Nov 13 2009, 08:36 AM Post #640
MSFN SuperB Group: Software Developers Posts: 5035 Joined: 23-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 25215 OS: none	QUOTE (Axxoul @ Nov 13 2009, 11:56 AM) Thanks ilko, i think that was the problem My bios does have USB HDD but my usb stick only shows under USB KEY which i guess is a floppy... Pretty weird since my other usb key with ubuntu boots up fine. Both keys are 2Gigs. Well, NO. If your BIOS has a "USB HDD" option, it should be able to recognize a USB stick with a proper MBR on it as a partitioned device. This has nothing to do with booting or not booting, is about booting as HD vs. booting as superfloppy. Use HDhacker: http://dimio.altervista.org/eng/ to save first sector of the Physicaldrive corresponding to your USB stick , compress it in a .zip archive and attach it to your next post, I'd like to have a look at it. jaclaz

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