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Nov 16 2007, 02:41 PM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | @ all owners of a computer with an Intel S-ATA AHCI or Raid system: Many users with such system have problems, when they try to install Windows XP (32/64 bit) or Windows Server 2003 (32/64 bit), because the Setup of these Operating Systems will not automaticly detect the hdd's, which are connected to the Intel S-ATA AHCI or Intel SATA RAID ports of the mainboard. Furthermore the traditional F6/floppy method often fails due to bad floppy media or the lack of a floppy drive. The easiest and safest solution is the integration of the Intel Controller drivers into a bootable 32/64bit XP or W2k3 CD by using a tool like nLite. Here is the way how to do it: Integration of the Intel SATA AHCI or SATA RAID drivers by using nLite Guide for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 (32/64 bit) Last updated: 07/09/2009 Changelog: - new official Intel Matrix Storage Manager v8.9.0.1023 dated 06/25/2009 - new official Intel textmode drivers v8.9.0.1023 (WHQL) dated 06/04/2009 - new modded Intel textmode drivers v8.9.0.1023 with enhanced compatibility (now even ICH10 supported) - new download links to older Intel textmode drivers for ICH5/ICH6 Chipsets Informations regarding the possibility and necessity of loading/integrating the Intel Controller drivers:
1. Preparation: What you need is the actual version of
2. Processing with nLite:
3. Additional advice for the later OS installation:
4. How to get access to the Intel Storage Manager Console:
Solution: Good luck! This post has been edited by Fernando 1: Oct 10 2009, 11:45 AM |
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Nov 17 2007, 06:24 AM Post
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| Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 2-October 03 Member No.: 7643 |
For JMicron S-ATA ports if bios settings is set to AHCI mode,no hdd is detect.No problem though if set to IDE mode
This post has been edited by Mann: Nov 17 2007, 06:25 AM |
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Nov 17 2007, 06:39 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | For JMicron S-ATA ports if bios settings is set to AHCI mode,no hdd is detect.No problem though if set to IDE mode 1. As I have written within my guide:You cannot use Intel drivers, when your hdd is connected to any JMicron port. Then you have to integrate the JMicron Controller drivers. 2. If you disable AHCI within your BIOS and let the S-ATA Controllers run the IDE mode, you don't need to integrate any textmode driver, but in this case you will abandon all AHCI features of your built-in S-ATA Controllers. |
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Nov 17 2007, 08:08 AM Post
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| Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 2-October 03 Member No.: 7643 |
i did integrate the Jmicron Controller driver but still no go.No problem at all with Intel drivers with sata hdd on Intel ports even with AHCI mode
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Nov 17 2007, 08:33 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | i did integrate the Jmicron Controller driver but still no go.No problem at all with Intel drivers with sata hdd on Intel ports even with AHCI mode. Do you have different SATA hdd's connected to different (Intel and JMicron) S-ATA ports?Are you sure, that you installed the correct drivers for the connected port? Which JMicron textmode driver did you load? |
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Nov 17 2007, 08:48 AM Post
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| Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 2-October 03 Member No.: 7643 |
I only have this 4 files.No txtsetup.oem jgogo.sys jraid.cat Jraid.sys jraid_i.inf p.s Just got a new driver JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.28WHQL.this set has txtsetup.oem.Will test this driver This post has been edited by Mann: Nov 17 2007, 08:55 AM |
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Nov 17 2007, 08:52 AM Post
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without txtsetup.oem cannot use txtmode drivers. and another notice about ICH hubs - Intel offers ICHx and ICHxR versions. only R-labeled hubs support AHCI and RAID capabilities. I've spent a whole day trying to install AHCI on motherboard with ICH9 befor I looked at mb specification. |
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Nov 17 2007, 08:56 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | I only have this 4 files.No txtsetup.oem That doesn't work at all. Windows Setup will not detect your JMicron Controller connected S-ATA hdd's, if AHCI is enabled within your BIOS.jgogo.sys jraid.cat Jraid.sys jraid_i.inf Download this JMicron driver package and unzip it. You will find the suitable textmode driver within the Floppy32 folder. and another notice about ICH hubs - Intel offers ICHx and ICHxR versions. only R-labeled hubs support AHCI and RAID capabilities. I've spent a whole day trying to install AHCI on motherboard with ICH9 befor I looked at mb specification. The ICHxM controllers (M=Mobile) are supporting AHCI and RAID too.
This post has been edited by Fernando 1: Nov 17 2007, 09:03 AM |
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Nov 17 2007, 09:19 AM Post
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| Junior ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 2-October 03 Member No.: 7643 |
thks problrm solved |
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Nov 17 2007, 09:25 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | thks problrm solved What have you done to solve the problem (might be interesting for other users)? EDIT: Since I believe, that Mann will not answer anymore, I suppose, that he found at least the correct JMicron textmode drivers I have linked to. This post has been edited by Fernando 1: Nov 17 2007, 11:33 AM |
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Nov 17 2007, 02:46 PM Post
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| MSFN Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2302 Joined: 27-February 05 From: Bucharest Member No.: 45441 OS: Windows 7 x64 |
thx fernando all worked good for me. |
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Nov 20 2007, 11:26 AM Post
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| Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 163262 OS: none |
I have a Gateway laptop model M-6823 I am trying to triple boot Vista XP and Fedora. XP is the problem. The drive is partitioned and Vista and Fedora core 8 work quite well. The XP SATA drivers are the problem. I followed the above instructions and created a CD. It boots fine then says it is checking the system as the screen goes black and the HDD runs and runs like it is loading the drivers etc. I allowed it to run for 20 minutes last night then hit Ctrl-Alt-Del. It had not modified anything the machine still boots Fedora and Vista fine. Does anyone know should I just allow it to run longer? I tried this CD in an older desktop and it runs through fine to the point of asking for an install point. I do not get the black screen on a desktop however. I have made the CD 2 times so far and gotten the same results. Thank-you in advance, Steve |
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Nov 20 2007, 11:31 PM Post
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| Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 163337 OS: XP Pro x86 |
Excellent write up. I did this slipsream the other day, but just now came across this post. I am running one drive, but trying to run AHCI mode and install XP Pro. Before slipstreaming, It would not detect the drive of course. I slipstreamed the drives exactly how you have in your guide, the only difference is the source cd was not a clean one, but a disc I slipstreamed SP2 in a few months ago. Does this matter that it was an nlite created disc even though the only thing changed was slipstreamed SP2 in? OK, so here is my problem. The slipstream must have worked, becuase it recognized the drive during setup, I created and formatted a partition, and sucessfully copied all of the XP setup files to the BRAND NEW hard drive. Just before the reboot, it says cannot copy file Uknown.sys and lets me canel or skip. Next, it reboots your computer to finish the install. It reboots, but after the POST screen, it reboots again and continues this reboot cycle. Any ideas? This computer was working fine with exact same configuration before I RMA'ed the drive, so I know it's not the bios or connectors or anything. From reading around, it looks to me that it loads the controller driver during the initial start, allowing my SATA drive to work, but then it will not copy the driver to the hard drive, not allowing it to boot. I don't know what Unkown.sys is, but others have the same problem, only named different things .sys I loaded used the drive as a slave an loaded up with my Vista drive and copied over the files iastor.inf iaahci.inf and iastor.sys over to the new hd that has the preinstall files copied on it into the i386 folder. No dice. Still does the same thing. Any one can help? This post has been edited by hobiecatter: Nov 21 2007, 01:44 AM |
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Nov 22 2007, 04:27 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | I have a Gateway laptop model M-6823 I am trying to triple boot Vista XP and Fedora. XP is the problem. The drive is partitioned and Vista and Fedora core 8 work quite well. The XP SATA drivers are the problem. I followed the above instructions and created a CD. It boots fine then says it is checking the system as the screen goes black and the HDD runs and runs like it is loading the drivers etc. I allowed it to run for 20 minutes last night then hit Ctrl-Alt-Del. It had not modified anything the machine still boots Fedora and Vista fine. At which point of the XP install did you get this strange behaviour? Did you really follow my guide?Does anyone know should I just allow it to run longer? I tried this CD in an older desktop and it runs through fine to the point of asking for an install point. I do not get the black screen on a desktop however. I have made the CD 2 times so far and gotten the same results. If you do not come to the point where you have to decide where to install XP, you obviously have a problem with your system. I am running one drive, but trying to run AHCI mode and install XP Pro. Before slipstreaming, It would not detect the drive of course. I slipstreamed the drives exactly how you have in your guide, the only difference is the source cd was not a clean one, but a disc I slipstreamed SP2 in a few months ago. Does this matter that it was an nlite created disc even though the only thing changed was slipstreamed SP2 in? No, that is like a clean OS CD.QUOTE OK, so here is my problem. The slipstream must have worked, becuase it recognized the drive during setup, I created and formatted a partition, and sucessfully copied all of the XP setup files to the BRAND NEW hard drive. Just before the reboot, it says cannot copy file Uknown.sys and lets me canel or skip. Next, it reboots your computer to finish the install. It reboots, but after the POST screen, it reboots again and continues this reboot cycle. All SYS files are drivers. XP is obviously searching for an unknown driver.Any ideas? This computer was working fine with exact same configuration before I RMA'ed the drive, so I know it's not the bios or connectors or anything. From reading around, it looks to me that it loads the controller driver during the initial start, allowing my SATA drive to work, but then it will not copy the driver to the hard drive, not allowing it to boot. I don't know what Unkown.sys is, but others have the same problem, only named different things .sys Did you hit F6 (you should not!)? If not, try the following: Create a bootable XP CD and integrate not only the Intel textmode drivers, but additionally the Intel INF chipset drivers. You will find a download link within my guide (first post). |
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Nov 23 2007, 04:23 AM Post
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for using the newest driver if gets update, only if you wish to extract drivers for yourself download Intel Matrix Storage Manager (link found in the main post up there) open a cmd line and go where you dowloaded the app then run iata78_cd.exe -a -a (that's actual name and files in the main post) the go to this folder %programfiles%\Intel\Intel Matrix Storage Manager\Driver and there will be your drivers so you can update if the need arises |
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Nov 23 2007, 05:30 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | for using the newest driver if gets update, only if you wish to extract drivers for yourself The extraction is not needed, if you use the actual driver packages linked within the first post of this thread. download Intel Matrix Storage Manager (link found in the main post up there) open a cmd line and go where you dowloaded the app then run iata78_cd.exe -a -a (that's actual name and files in the main post) the go to this folder %programfiles%\Intel\Intel Matrix Storage Manager\Driver and there will be your drivers so you can update if the need arises Furthermore I will keep the download links up-to-date. CU Fernando |
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Nov 24 2007, 02:02 PM Post
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| Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 163337 OS: XP Pro x86 |
Fernando, Thanks for your help. Since I was getting the Unknown.sys cannot copy during install, I found a floppy drive and thought I'd try it the "old fashioned" way to see if that would even work, instead of slipstreaming the file. I get the same error "cannont copy Unknown.sys" even when using the floppy method. When doing the floppy method, you don't have any options of textmode or INF drivers. I have a Dell XPS 410, so I went to Dell's support page, downloaded the SATA exe driver for my computer, extracted it to the floppy. When I hit F6, and loaded the floppy, there were only four options, two were for mobile, the other two only one of which worked, and it was the one for my controller. I still got the same error with this method. Switching over to regular IDE (not needing to load the SATA drivers) installs fine. So, this is definately something to do with these drivers, just can't figure out what. I need to install in AHCI mode not regular IDE though because my other HD that has Vista only works in AHCI mode, and I will eventually be dual booting. |
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Nov 25 2007, 03:59 AM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | Since I was getting the Unknown.sys cannot copy during install, I found a floppy drive and thought I'd try it the "old fashioned" way to see if that would even work, instead of slipstreaming the file. If you haven chosen the "Unattended Install", you should not hit F6.I get the same error "cannont copy Unknown.sys" even when using the floppy method. When doing the floppy method, you don't have any options of textmode or INF drivers. I have a Dell XPS 410, so I went to Dell's support page, downloaded the SATA exe driver for my computer, extracted it to the floppy. When I hit F6, and loaded the floppy, there were only four options, two were for mobile, the other two only one of which worked, and it was the one for my controller. I still got the same error with this method. Have you tried to enable all possible AHCI Controllers while integrating the Intel textmode drivers with nLite? |
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Nov 25 2007, 08:37 PM Post
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| Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 163337 OS: XP Pro x86 | Since I was getting the Unknown.sys cannot copy during install, I found a floppy drive and thought I'd try it the "old fashioned" way to see if that would even work, instead of slipstreaming the file. If you haven chosen the "Unattended Install", you should not hit F6.I get the same error "cannont copy Unknown.sys" even when using the floppy method. When doing the floppy method, you don't have any options of textmode or INF drivers. I have a Dell XPS 410, so I went to Dell's support page, downloaded the SATA exe driver for my computer, extracted it to the floppy. When I hit F6, and loaded the floppy, there were only four options, two were for mobile, the other two only one of which worked, and it was the one for my controller. I still got the same error with this method. Have you tried to enable all possible AHCI Controllers while integrating the Intel textmode drivers with nLite? I understand you do not hit F6 while using a slipsreamed disc because the drivers load automatically. I don't think I wrote it clearly the first time. When I could not get it to work using the slipsreamed, I backed up and used a NON slipsreamed disc and installed a floppy to load the drivers off the floppy to see if that would work. Doing it this way, of course, I DO hit F6 to install the drivers, however, I was still getting the "cannot copy Unknown.sys" error. As for the drivers I picked off of the floppy, there were only four of them available. Two had a (mobile) in the name, so I skipped them and I tried the other two. One of them did not work at all. I tried again with the last one, and was able to recognize the drive, copy the files, then it got to the unkown.sys that it couldn't copy. I have searched all over the Dell forums, and others have had to slipsream the drivers or use a floppy, but none have had this .sys file that could not copy. I am not giving up though. Going to keep trying different things and will let you know what works. |
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Nov 26 2007, 06:02 PM Post
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| MSFN Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1452 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Germany Member No.: 58937 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 | I understand you do not hit F6 while using a slipsreamed disc because the drivers load automatically. I don't think I wrote it clearly the first time. When I could not get it to work using the slipsreamed, I backed up and used a NON slipsreamed disc and installed a floppy to load the drivers off the floppy to see if that would work. Doing it this way, of course, I DO hit F6 to install the drivers, however, I was still getting the "cannot copy Unknown.sys" error. Your story about the "unknown.sys" file is very strange, because there is no such file within any Intel driver package.As for the drivers I picked off of the floppy, there were only four of them available. Two had a (mobile) in the name, so I skipped them and I tried the other two. One of them did not work at all. I tried again with the last one, and was able to recognize the drive, copy the files, then it got to the unkown.sys that it couldn't copy. I have searched all over the Dell forums, and others have had to slipsream the drivers or use a floppy, but none have had this .sys file that could not copy. I am not giving up though. Going to keep trying different things and will let you know what works. If you slipstream the Intel textmode drivers exactly the way I have layed down within my first post, you will succeed (unless you have another problem within yóur system). Maybe you should do a google search for "unknown.sys" to find out the real reason for your trouble. |
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