helo shahed,

where is the installer pack? i download badforserver.exe when i double click it. it creates a folder called bda in c:\, it does not have a setup in there?
am i dong it right.

thanks bro.

Instructions on how to install are inside the "bdaforserver" folder

Updated installer pack. Fixed a major bug

It worked like a charm. Thank you shahed26.

Hi,

I have an analog WinTV-PVR USB2 Model 24019.

I used your Setup, got the files from Vista UlimateSP1, and copied the sources on Windows Server 2008.
Then I ran the setup. The setup said that is all ok, restarts, then after starting there was the massege with the new drivers, I canceled it all and restarts my PC.

Than I tried Wintv V.6 and Winamp with TV Plugin but no one works. The driver of my Wintv are installed.
The message in WinTV V6 is the same how before I installed the files: "Cannot access TV Tuner, please check the unit is connected and the drivers are correctly instakked.(0)"
I checked the drivers in device manager there is all ok.

I use Windows Server 2008 X64 Englisch with German location and German keyboard. The same with Vista. Desktop enhancement were installed.

Does this only works with DVB?
Have somebody the same WinTV and get it to work?

Do you have any idea were the problem and how I can get it to work?
Is the problem the German location Or/And keyboard??

Thanks for any help.

Greetings
Jan

Unfortunately it does not work with analogue tv, (as far as i know). Many people who have tried this setup pack had analogue and reported not working. It only works with digital DVB.

Btw there are some know problems with apps like wintv and winamp tv plugins, my advice is to use a better 3rd party tv software.
The best one is dvbviewer (not free) http://www.dvbviewer.com/en/index.php
or you can try dvbdream (the best free tv app) http://www.dvbdream.org/
alternative progdvb http://www.progdvb.com/

These are the ones that works best with tv cards under server x86/x64

analogue might work these tv app mentioned above, but never tested before

Hi,

thanks for your answer. I tried DVB Dream with BDA but it hasn't worked.

Then I must hope that Microsoft support it in future, but the chances are not so good .
TV Tuner on a server OS arent rampant

Greetings
Jan

Hi shahed26,

do you know any DVB-T card/stick which will work with Windows Server 2008 X64? in our town we can reveive DVB-T with indoor aerial.

Thank for your help.

Greetings
Jan

OR YOU CAN VISIT THIS SITE, FOR MORE INFO ON WHICH CARDS WORKED
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/showthrea...4850&page=5

Am currently using hauppauge hvr4000 dvb-s2 card, and i have no problems

Hi shahed26,

Lines of "\Setup For x64\Get BDA Vista Files.bat":
move %systemdrive%\bdaforserver\source\x64\System32\kstvtune.ax %systemroot%\system32
move %systemdrive%\bdaforserver\source\x64\System32\ksxbar.ax %systemroot%\system32
move %systemdrive%\bdaforserver\source\x64\SysWOW64\kstvtune.ax %systemroot%\SysWOW64
move %systemdrive%\bdaforserver\source\x64\SysWOW64\ksxbar.ax %systemroot%\SysWOW64

Needed and right?

But Lines:
%systemroot%\SysWOW64\regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\SysWOW64\kstvtune.ax
%systemroot%\SysWOW64\regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\SysWOW64\ksxbar.ax
%systemroot%\system32\regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\system32\kstvtune.ax
%systemroot%\system32\regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\system32\ksxbar.ax

Not needed and bugged. Because this DLL don't have DllRegisterServer() entry.

Any register error of kstvtune.ax&ksxbar.ax must ignored. That right?
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Sorry for my best English

Thats correct, these files needs to be present in that system32 or syswow64 directory, as tv applications needs these file in order for it to work


Correct again, these commands don't need to be there, as it can't register, because they don;t have any DllRegisterServer() entry. (sorry never updated my setup pack, but its fine, as it uses /s switch (silent) it does not interupt setup)

Your english is fine

Reporting success on my DVB-T USB stick; Geniatech t328b. Very nicely done, good bat files, tho I got an access denied somewhere whilst copying the files, everything works just fine. No complaints

No problems. In future to avoid access denied errors, run the bat as administrator

Ofcourse I ran the file as administrator, also after the reboot when Windows find all the new hardware I got a lot of "Error in inf file" so in the device manager there is a long list of "Unknown devices" never the less watching TV is possible.

Yes this is normal, just ignore the new found devices (click cancel),

and also after you restart again (2nd restart), these unknown devices goes away

I Guess you never read the instructions properly

 

 

Hi

Have a Terratec Cinergy HTC USB XS HD card. Windows 2008.

Since I did not have a 64 bit Vista installation i just expanded system32 and sysvow64 to the x64 source folder.
I then ran your script. It showed some missing files(because your script excpect some files to be at root of system32, when they infact are stored in system32\en-us).(and rebooted) I looked up the missing files, and copied them as well (and rebooted). Still no luck. I refreshed directx9.0c, still no luck.

First home cinema showed my device, but when I pressed scan nothing happened. I traced this with process monitor, and that lead me to missing registry entries.
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->Software->Microsoft-Multimedia->Tv-Tuningspaces). I looked at my 32 bit Vista installation, and just exported the keys for this card from here.
I also removed and reinstalled the driver for the card.
After this I am able to scan for channels, but it does not find any channels.
In the trace file for home cinema i find:
15:27:21.708 107904K( +1340) 5E4-FEC: ERR CreateTuningspace hr = 0x8000FFFF
15:27:21.957 112192K( +4288) 5E4-FEC: WRN Cinergy CI::Init -> KSPropertySet not supported (this device has no CI)
15:27:24.252 112724K( +532) 5E4-FEC: WRN TTLOC: Norwegian string NOT LOCALIZED: 'CH'
15:27:24.527 112724K( +532) 5E4-DC8: WRN CReceiverDVB_EM2883::TuneSetGraphParameters() - NO LOCK: Retry with Spectral Inversion =1
15:27:26.568 112740K( +16) 5E4-DC8: MSG CReceiverDVB::TuneScanLocator(0 MHz) - NO LOCK


Have you got any advice on how to proceed ?

You need vista to get BDA files, that are not on server x86/x64.
Server does not have BDA files, so no point expanding server's files to source folder.

Hi again

I extracted the files from the Vista x64 wim image. Used 7ZIP.
Sorry for not mentioning that.

Dont use tv applications supplied with your tv card, they dont work on server (because they rely heavily on Microsofts BDA files) Use 3rd party apps like progdvb, dvbdream, or the best one dvbviewer. They work fine

Please read instruction file carefully inside the BDA archive. It clearly says that after restart when you get prompt "found devices" just ignore and cancel and restart again.

let me know!!

Hi

Tested both progdvb 5 and GB-PVR, but none of them does the job any better :=(
Both finds my device, but no channels found (Yes, I have tested the card/connection with XP, and it works fine there).
Progdvb5 searches, but no channels found. GB-PVR complains that it cannot connect to the device. It finds, and list the device.

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MSVidCtl.dll.mui (The most important file located “C:\Windows\System32\en-US) on vista, make sure that file is there copied properly on server 2008 in servers C:\Windows\System32\en-US directory .
And also the "MSVidCtl.dll" the main file for scanning channels to work, make sure that file is also copied properly in C:\Windows\System32 directory. If your on x64 server then make sure the x86 version of MSVidCtl.dll file is in syswow64 as well.
After that run the Setup BDA.bat again. (make sure you run the right bat file as there is one for 64bit and one for 32bit systems)

Hi
I verified that all files where in the right places, and they where.
I ran the ax/dll registration part once more.
I ran the inf files installation once more.
I ran some dependent inf file installs, like ks.inf, kscaptur.inf ...
Rebooted twice, and suddenly it found my tv channels :=)
Only thing Im missing now is sound :=)

Thanx for all help!

Sound problem could be a due to missing codecs, as server does not have these codecs. Download Vista codec pack or k-lite codec to make sound work and configure your tv application decoding properties to use right codecs. I would recommend k-lite codec, as it has cyberlinks SP video decoder (currently the best for video decoding and quality for tv apps) or optionally you can download that from Vista Codecs Packs Home page and use vista codec pack as this is the best codec pack i used ever.

That should do the trick..

Hi .. can I get this to work in XP Professional 2002, Service Pack 3?
I have run into a major problem getting my TV tuner card to work in XP Pro, have posted about it in the Windows XP section, repeating it here in the hope that someone will be able to advise what I can do to fix this.

Synopsis:
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The problem is that my filter graph to control the tuner card works great in XP MCE 2005, does not work in XP Pro - BDA network provider filter cannot tune to signal - signal strength is always 0.

If anyone is interested and/or knows what the fix is, please check the detailed post at:
http://www.msfn.org/board/Need-help-Filter...CE-t122188.html.

Thanks in advance.

This is ONLY FOR SERVER 2008. Windows XP already has BDA function. No need for this setup pack. Regarding your problem, You can try installing the latest Directx 9 redist, to see if that solves your problem.

Hi - thanks very much for this. One suggestion; at the risk of demonstrating my ignorance - can I suggest you add a line to the instructions that says you should install the tuner card drivers seperately... (would have saved me some 'dumb' time!!)

Thanks, will do

UPDATED, See changelog for more details!!!

Hi shahed26,

I have tried your batch script method to no avail. I have verified the files have copied correctly and are in the right place.

ProgDVB 5 reports that it 'Could not CoCreateInstance CLSID_MPEG2Demultiplexer', and ProgDVB4 reports 'Run DBA graph error'. My manufacturers own software is a little more successful, in that it can get to the run and get to the scan channels screen. However once I scan my local transmitter, it fails to see any channels. It looks like it is failing to lock, as the signal quality bar stays at 0%, despite it being 100% consistantly in XP.

I have also ensured the BDA drivers are installed for my device, and ensured DirectX 9 is running ok.

Source: Vista x64
Destination: WinServer 2008 x64
Card: Lifeview FlyDVB-T (PCI)

Appreciate any help you can provide!

Quick Edit:
Ok, I read some old instructions and decided to run the install option of BDA.inf in /windows/inf/. After restarting, my LifeView application and ProgDVB4 (with graph edits) seem to work, although they are unstable. ProgDVB5 still gives the old error though.

Guess I will need a better 3rd party app!

Use Dvbviewer. Its the best one, (a little confusing when it comes to configuring the app) But all features work great on server

Hi,

Thanks for the great work, my setup currently have following issues, and I am not sure where I should looking into:

System is W2k8 64bit
Tuner is AutumnWave onAir GT, which works fine in XP 64bit and the GraphEdit in XP worked and can watch the HDTV without any problem (pls see attachment #1)

I have extract all required files(32 and 64bit) from the Vista64 image and correct installed by using the installation scripts.
Also, I have install the bda.inf from bdaxp.cab.
install the bda.inf from w2k8 windows\inf directory
install/reinstall tuner driver/software several times

(I can say above steps are tried many times between reboot as I have struggled this for several weeks)

Now, the issue I can see (2nd attachment) is that "BDA Source Filter" and "BDA Receiver Component" is missing in the filter configs using GraphEdit.

But I checked by regedit, those GUID is there, for example:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{DA4E3DA0-D07D-11d0-BD50-00A0C911CE86}\Instance\{71985F48-1CA1-11d3-9CC8-00C04F7971E0}]
@="BDA Source Filters"
"FriendlyName"="BDA Source Filters"
"CLSID"="{71985F48-1CA1-11d3-9CC8-00C04F7971E0}"

But "BDA Source Filters" is not in the GraphEdit filters list.

Is this issue related with the Hardware driver install? or my generic BDA framework not setup properly?

Thanks in advance.

The problem is, NOT all tv card work under server 2008, (even with this BDA setup pack) and i guess thats the case with you as well. Mine is working fine, i can watch HD tv chanells. The problem is not hardware related, but generic BDA framework.

Well, right now I think it is not my tuner not showup in filters list, but the whole "BDA Source Filters" category not there, so I guess maybe my BDA setup pack is not installed properly. I hope once the these category is in place, the filter chain may work in my system.

So, in your machine, could you run GraphEdit and see if the "BDA Source Filters" category exists (in insert filter dialog box)?

http://download.videohelp.com/download/graphedit041201.zip

Hi,

I've been trying to get this working, but seem to be doing something wrong. I've read through this forum, the one of GBPVR and Hauppauge, and still am stuck.

This is where I got. I've got a GA-MA78GM-S2H mobo with onboard ATI 3200HD GPU, AMD 4850e CPU, and most importantly, a Hauppauge PVR150 (2600 series) with remote as my analogue capture card. It is connected to our analogue TV-distribution cable.

I did a clean install of Windows 2008 Standard x64 English, added the desktop experience feature and installed the k-lite normal codec pack. Then I ran the script on a 64-bit Vista in vmware (and checked the source folder - all seemed to be there). Copied the whole thing to the Windows 2008, and ran the script. Everything seemed to be running ok, except for an "access denied" error when moving the files. After the automatic reboot, I found the "kswdmcap.ax.mui" in the System32 and the SysWOW64 subfolders of the source folder. When trying the "move"-lines from the batch file manually for these two file, I get the same access denied error. I then installed all the remaining drivers, installed the Wintv application, GBPVR and DVB dream (as suggested on this forum), but none seem to work. Errors are:

GBPVR Tuning assistant (set to Hauppauge PVR 150, Belgium, Cable): "Failed to find Crossbar filter. Wrong Device Type?"
Wintv 6: "Cannot access TV Tuner, please check the unit is connected and the drivers are correctly installed."
DVBdream: "Cannot initialize DVB hardware! ErrorCode:1 Application will work in offline mode"

I did manage to use the PVR-150 on linux, but due to driver troubles (ATI stll not performing wel with myhtv), switched to Windows 2008, so the card seems to be OK.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm running out of ideas and options. If I need to upload any logfiles, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for your support!

Ekjaker

First thing is, ANALOGUE DOES NOT WORK ON SERVER 2008 (my batch setup has no analogue files)
Secondly You must run the batch file as administrator to avoid access denied error.
And lastly, not all tv applications work under server. Dvbviewer works great!

Sorry as i can not help you much on this one, as am back to using vista. My server trial period has expired, and i was only running server all this time for experimental use!

****, not very good news. Does this mean that analogue is impossible to run on 2008, or just your batch file doesnt support it?
Concerning the access denied thing, I did actually ran de batch file as admin. Because I read in your other posts that not all tv applications run in 2008, I tried the 3 different ones. To no avail, clearly.

Anyway, thx for the info. I already lost tons of time with this, so I'm glad I dont have the waste anymore on something that wouldnt work anyway. Unless ofcourse it is possible to run analogue on 2008, only not with your batch file. If it doesnt, it will be 2003 or Vista, probably x86 (any suggestiosn there?).

Good news, HDTV tuner(AutumnWave onAir GT) is working in 2008 server!!!

After useing registry monitor in XP, I found some registry is missing in 2008, Following is what I did in Server 2008:
1) open GraphEdit, if the "BDA Source Filters" is missing in insert dialog, then continue to next step. else you should stop.
2) export following registry tree to a file:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{DA4E3DA0-D07D-11d0-BD50-00A0C911CE86}]
3) in the file, replace all "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\" to "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\"
i.e. change to: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{DA4E3DA0-D07D-11d0-BD50-00A0C911CE86}]
4) import the modified reg file.
5) then open GraphEdit, the "BDA Source Filters" should show up, then build the correct filter graph, then play the graph, you should see the TV.
Now, I just need find a good player.

Looks like this is a 64bit issue, Probably because GraphEdit is 32bit app, and it need some Wow6432Node reg setting which was missing in my initial env.
Maybe a pure 64bit player should work without above fix, but at least this fix prove the BDA server package works.

Cheers.

"First thing is, ANALOGUE DOES NOT WORK ON SERVER 2008 (my batch setup has no analogue files)"

Just out of curiousity, do you think it is theoretically possible to make analogue work on 2008 using the same comparison process used for creating the batch file for digital?

I'd hate to have to go back to 2003 server

ANALOGUE is possible on server, as it uses the same kernel (core) as vista. Its just some files and registry entries are missing, that needs to be present in server installation for it to work properly.

Maybe you can try importing some registry keys and files from vista to server to see if you can get it to work.
I am not on server anymore, so wont be working on this anymore

Thanks

OK, thanks Shahed for all the input and great work! I'll check the forums again for how exactly you went about getting it all together for digital, and see if I can get somewhere with analogue. If I do, I'll post back here.

If there is someone else here trying to get analogue cards to work on 2008, let me know. Maybe we can get further together.

Hello

Has anybody a solution for getting work the analogue tv cards? I have tried with Hauppauge PVR150 and PVR500 and Terratec Cinergy HTC USB XS HD, but it does not work.

Thank you for tips.
Greetings
wima

Hey Wima,

unfortunately not. According to Shahed it is possible, and after rereadiing the threads, I found some people who got it working aswel (I think Mister X on the Hauppauge forum", but it never got documented how, as everyone was looking for a DVB solution, not analogue. So it seems it is up to us to find a solution

I tried a little bit with GraphEdit. In Vista I have filters like "WDM Streaming-TV-Empfangsgeräte" and "WDM Streaming-Crossbar-Geräte". I miss these in W2k8. The tuner filter is the file kstvtune.ax, the crossbar is ksxbar.ax. I think there is something wrong with this filters...

Greetings
wima

still missing
WDM Streaming Crossbar
WDM Streaming TV Audio
WDM Streaming TV Tuner
even with your newest setup.
Whats going wrong?
Thank you
wima

I'm afraid I don't have a lot of time to spare the next couple of days. I hope to be looking deeper into this after the weekend. For now, I did find this link that explains clearly how these elements cooperate. Might be helpful: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms783782(VS.85).aspx

From what I was able to make out of it (and as you mentioned above), the "WDM Streaming Crossbar" relies on the ksxbar.ax file, and the "WDM Streaming TV Tuner" needs KSTVTune.ax. For the audio I dont really know. The 2 files mentioned should be on the Windows 2008 as they are included in the batch-file. I guess it might be a registry issue like Xordos mentioned in one of the above posts.

In the meantime, could you post a screenshot of the graphedit in Vista? thx

Here is the screenshot (vista x64, english):
Click to view attachment

Greetings
wima

The good news: I have now a working MediaPortal TV Server on my W2K8 x64 with my analog tv card (PVR-150).
The bad news: I don't know, if I can reproduce it, because I hacked quite a bit. I made some things from here and I exported many registry keys from my vista x64 and imported them to w2k8. The channel scan in mediaportal worked a little bit better, but there were some exceptions around SetupTeletext(). Then I downloaded the source code of the TvEngine. In the TvCardAnalog.cs of the TVLibrary project I deactivated teletext by returning at the beginning of the FindVBIPin method. Compiled and installed, then the channel scan worked, but I have no channel names. I think they will be getted from teletext. But showing and recording tv works, also with a network client.

If someone is interested in my exported registry keys, I can upload them. There are many keys, I think not all will be used. Next step is to find out which keys are necessary and whats going wrong with teletext.

Greetings
wima

Wima, great news you got it working. As I dont have a x64 Vista-box available for now, I would definitely love to try out your registry-keys. btw, did it resolve the issue of missing filters?

Concerning the teletext issue, I might be wrong here, but I dont think all versions of the PVR150 support teletext (OEM, MCE,...)