Whenever I try and load the task scheduler, it always results in there being an error in the snapin and vista shuts it down.
I'm running all the latest drivers and updates for Vista. My system is not overclocked at all.
Any ideas?
Vista = SP1 64Bit Home Premium.
The actual error is as follows:
Exception Type:
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException
Stack Trace:
at System.RuntimeTypeHandle.CreateInstance(RuntimeType type, Boolean publicOnly, Boolean noCheck, Boolean& canBeCached, RuntimeMethodHandle& ctor, Boolean& bNeedSecurityCheck)
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceSlow(Boolean publicOnly, Boolean fillCache)
at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceImpl(Boolean publicOnly, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks, Boolean fillCache)
at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, Boolean nonPublic)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.FormView.InternalInitialize()
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.View.HandleInitializationRequest(IRequestStatus requestStatus)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.View.ProcessRequest(Request request)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.ViewMessageClient.ProcessRequest(Request request)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.Internal.IMessageClient.ProcessRequest(Request request)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.Executive.RequestStatus.BeginRequest(IMessageClient messageClient, RequestInfo requestInfo)
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.Executive.SnapInRequestOperation.ProcessRequest()
at Microsoft.ManagementConsole.Executive.Operation.OnThreadTransfer(SimpleOperationCallback callback)
I'd try deleting C:\Users\Your_User_Name_Here\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\MMC\taskschd first (or just rename it).
It could be a COM+ permission problem i.e. a registry (or file) ACL problem (seen that before), but that's kind of tricky to guide someone else into fixing
Especially when you can't just guess what exactly is failing. Personally, I'd try running Process Monitor to find out what's going on when you load it (maybe you can zip up a capture of it, upload it on rapidshare or whatever, and post a link to that here?)
It could be a COM+ permission problem i.e. a registry (or file) ACL problem (seen that before), but that's kind of tricky to guide someone else into fixing
Especially when you can't just guess what exactly is failing. Personally, I'd try running Process Monitor to find out what's going on when you load it (maybe you can zip up a capture of it, upload it on rapidshare or whatever, and post a link to that here?)
Ok will give it a shot, fyi this is a couple day old fresh install of Vista.
Deleted that file (can always restore it from the recycle bin
). Problem still occurs, where do I run process monitor from? Typing it into the search box displays nothing.
Deleted that file (can always restore it from the recycle bin
). Problem still occurs, where do I run process monitor from? Typing it into the search box displays nothing.
QUOTE (pengo @ Aug 11 2008, 08:37 PM) 
where do I run process monitor from? Typing it into the search box displays nothing.
You have to download it from there: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896645.aspx
Ok so what exactly do you want from process monitor? There is a lot of processes... What process should I be looking for? mmc.exe?
Nonetheless, I've run a filter to display only mmc.exe.. There is a lot of data and I have no idea what I should be looking for.
Just scrolling thru there is a lot of "NAME NOT FOUND", "FAST IO DISALLOWED" in the results column...
Nonetheless, I've run a filter to display only mmc.exe.. There is a lot of data and I have no idea what I should be looking for.
Just scrolling thru there is a lot of "NAME NOT FOUND", "FAST IO DISALLOWED" in the results column...
QUOTE (pengo @ Aug 11 2008, 09:24 PM)
Ok so what exactly do you want from process monitor? There is a lot of processes... What process should I be looking for? mmc.exe?
Yes, mmc.exe is what we're interested into.
What you should be looking for? Errors in general, and more specifically those associated with ACL problems e.g. result being "ACCESS DENIED". Things like "FAST IO DISALLOWED" are perfectly normal.
If in doubt, save the capture, zip it up, and give us a link, we'll have a peek.
I can't do a screen capture as its more than a screens worth is there a way to export it to a txt file?
It's failing to create the mmc instance being loaded via reflection, and this could be anything from security issues to a task in the scheduler causing the issue (although that's highly unlikely, it's possible).
I would strongly suggest opening the event viewer and looking in the System and/or Application logs to see if anything further is actually being logged regarding this error (there should be).
I would strongly suggest opening the event viewer and looking in the System and/or Application logs to see if anything further is actually being logged regarding this error (there should be).
There have been no tasks created (by me at least) since I haven't been able to get into it at all. I'll take a look at event viewer and also post up a process mon dump soon. Thanks
QUOTE (pengo @ Aug 11 2008, 11:31 PM)
is there a way to export it to a txt file?
File > Save
But yes, the Event Log may also contain some useful information.
I can't do event viewer as that crashes too!!
Log file attached of what process mon sees when the task scheduler snap in is run.
Log file attached of what process mon sees when the task scheduler snap in is run.
here is the log file, its big so its multiple files.
1 of 3
1 of 3
2 of 3
3 of 3
thanks for any help you can provide.
thanks for any help you can provide.
Did you install from original media, or was it vLited?
The error message looks possibly .NET-related - did you remove any .NET Framework 2.0 components, or disable any services by any chance?
The error message looks possibly .NET-related - did you remove any .NET Framework 2.0 components, or disable any services by any chance?
Original media, not modified.
I thought it was .NET too so I install 3.5 and problem still occurs.
I did set some services to manual (not disabled, just automatic to manual), only ones that this http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html guide said were corporate or not required.
I'll start all services and see how I go, as I can't recall which specifc services I disabled
Do you know which services I should look at starting if they aren't already started?
Update: well I started all services, problem persists. What I do notice is that I don't seeem to have an Event log service listed which is odd. Or is this not listed in vista under services?
I thought it was .NET too so I install 3.5 and problem still occurs.
I did set some services to manual (not disabled, just automatic to manual), only ones that this http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html guide said were corporate or not required.
I'll start all services and see how I go, as I can't recall which specifc services I disabled
Do you know which services I should look at starting if they aren't already started?
Update: well I started all services, problem persists. What I do notice is that I don't seeem to have an Event log service listed which is odd. Or is this not listed in vista under services?
Looks like you're using a x64 version of Windows, so one needs the 64 bit version of Process Explorer to open that log file, and I'm running a non-x64 OS. Sorry...
Well, I looked at it - there's definitely something very wrong with your box with regards to .net. I opened the task manager on 3 different x64 Vista SP1 systems, and get very different results - specifically, after loading the fonts and supporting .dll files for mmc.exe, your machine goes directly into attempting to open Microsoft.ManagementConsole.dll and querying the inprocserver for propsys.dll - my 3 machines instead load the GUI controls for displaying the window.
Since your box does NOT ever go into this code, and propsys.dll is the properties hook dll file, I'd say you have something installed on your machine that's loaded probably as a shell extension that's causing the issue, at least from what I can gather without debugging (procmon isn't the greatest when the failure happens under-the-covers). Knowing that you're going directly into propsys.dll hook code, and we're doing shell extension and drive extension CLSID lookups, I'd say you've installed *something* that is causing mmc.exe to trampoline into code that causes a crash.
What exactly is installed on this machine, and please tell me you didn't do anything like delete the SXS cache....
Since your box does NOT ever go into this code, and propsys.dll is the properties hook dll file, I'd say you have something installed on your machine that's loaded probably as a shell extension that's causing the issue, at least from what I can gather without debugging (procmon isn't the greatest when the failure happens under-the-covers). Knowing that you're going directly into propsys.dll hook code, and we're doing shell extension and drive extension CLSID lookups, I'd say you've installed *something* that is causing mmc.exe to trampoline into code that causes a crash.
What exactly is installed on this machine, and please tell me you didn't do anything like delete the SXS cache...
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Could CCleaner have done some damage when it did a clean and/or registry clean? What about FreeAVG? I noticed AVG caused spybot to slow right down and not be able to immunize the system when its residentshield it active. That said, the problem still occurs with the resident shield enabled.
I really have not installed much.
FreeAVG
Firefox v3
Sun Java
Adobe Acrobat Reader
Flash player
Ffdshow
VLC
Quicktime
Utorrent
Spybot
Windows Live Messenger
Gmail Notifier
UltimateDefrag
VirtualBox
WinRAR
Xchat2
I uninstalled UltimateDefrag, CCleaner, FreeAVG, Spybot. Problem still occurs.
I really have not installed much.
FreeAVG
Firefox v3
Sun Java
Adobe Acrobat Reader
Flash player
Ffdshow
VLC
Quicktime
Utorrent
Spybot
Windows Live Messenger
Gmail Notifier
UltimateDefrag
VirtualBox
WinRAR
Xchat2
I uninstalled UltimateDefrag, CCleaner, FreeAVG, Spybot. Problem still occurs.
If you run mmc.exe itself, does it launch okay?
If so, does the error get displayed if you:
- click on File / Add or Remove Snap-in
- scroll down to Task Scheduler and double-click it
- click OK with "Local Computer" selected
- click OK
Are there any other MMC views that fail with a similar error?
If so, does the error get displayed if you:
- click on File / Add or Remove Snap-in
- scroll down to Task Scheduler and double-click it
- click OK with "Local Computer" selected
- click OK
Are there any other MMC views that fail with a similar error?
I'm not a fan of "tweaking guides" as Windows is used in different ways by different people and it's very difficult for users to determine what services they don't need - either right now, or in the future after installing WhizzBang Application X v3.0 which mysteriously fails to install or run for no apparent reason.
I've had a look at the ProcMon log but... ew... managed code :s Not my speciality.
I think the exception handler kicks in after the font substitutes have been enumerated but I can't make a whole lot of sense as ProcMon only records I/O and this could be a failing in inter-process communication...
This is event 396156, where it looks like the exception handler is getting ready to throw:
Did you make any changes to COM+ or DCOM at all?
Edited stack from event 396395 - not sure if "RealCOMPlusThrow" is a possible cause or simply a symptom:
I've had a look at the ProcMon log but... ew... managed code :s Not my speciality.
I think the exception handler kicks in after the font substitutes have been enumerated but I can't make a whole lot of sense as ProcMon only records I/O and this could be a failing in inter-process communication...
This is event 396156, where it looks like the exception handler is getting ready to throw:
CODE
0 fltmgr.sys FltpPerformPreCallbacks+0x28a
1 fltmgr.sys FltpPassThroughFastIo+0x6a
2 fltmgr.sys FltpFastIoQueryOpen+0xef
3 ntoskrnl.exe IopParseDevice+0xb85
4 ntoskrnl.exe ObpLookupObjectName+0x5eb
5 ntoskrnl.exe ObOpenObjectByName+0x2f4
6 ntoskrnl.exe NtQueryAttributesFile+0x134
7 ntoskrnl.exe KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
8 ntdll.dll NtQueryAttributesFile+0xa
9 ntdll.dll RtlDoesFileExists_UstrEx+0xad
10 ntdll.dll LdrpSearchPath+0xbd
11 ntdll.dll LdrpCheckForLoadedDll+0x1e3
12 ntdll.dll LdrpLoadDll+0x162 0x77895af2
13 ntdll.dll LdrLoadDll+0x136 0x77895836
14 kernel32.dll LoadLibraryExW+0x15e
15 mscorwks.dll Thread::UserSleep+0x139
16 mscorwks.dll CLRLoadLibraryEx+0xb6
17 mscorwks.dll DoPreloadLibraryThrowing+0x152
18 mscorwks.dll CorDelayLoadHook+0x1e
19 mscorwks.dll _delayLoadHelper2+0x1e3
20 mscorwks.dll _tailMerge_VERSION_dll+0x3f
21 mscorwks.dll GetFileVersionInfoSizeW_NoThrow+0x5c
22 mscorwks.dll DwGetAssemblyVersion+0x6f
23 mscorwks.dll GetManagedBucketParametersForIp+0xf5
24 mscorwks.dll GetBucketParametersForManagedException+0x3f
25 mscorwks.dll Thread::ReturnToContext+0x356
26 mscorwks.dll GetResourceStringFromManaged+0x1f0
27 mscorwks.dll GetResourceFromDefault+0x139
28 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x34c332
29 mscorwks.dll CallDescrWorker+0x82
30 mscorwks.dll CallDescrWorkerWithHandler+0xe5
31 mscorwks.dll MethodDesc::CallDescr+0x306
32 mscorwks.dll InvokeUtil::CreateTargetExcept+0x1da
33 mscorwks.dll `string'+0xa044c
34 mscorwks.dll RuntimeMethodHandle::SerializationInvoke+0x221
35 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2e744d
36 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc3a0
37 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc4e6
38 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc723
39 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x19cd0b
40 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x1aca66
41 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28f729
42 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28fe1b
43 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2904f3
44 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28e6dc
45 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28e75d
46 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d62e5
47 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d61e6
48 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d64a0
49 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe16c2
50 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe1eda
51 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe2ca2
52 TaskScheduler.ni.dll TaskScheduler.ni.dll+0x6ba7
1 fltmgr.sys FltpPassThroughFastIo+0x6a
2 fltmgr.sys FltpFastIoQueryOpen+0xef
3 ntoskrnl.exe IopParseDevice+0xb85
4 ntoskrnl.exe ObpLookupObjectName+0x5eb
5 ntoskrnl.exe ObOpenObjectByName+0x2f4
6 ntoskrnl.exe NtQueryAttributesFile+0x134
7 ntoskrnl.exe KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
8 ntdll.dll NtQueryAttributesFile+0xa
9 ntdll.dll RtlDoesFileExists_UstrEx+0xad
10 ntdll.dll LdrpSearchPath+0xbd
11 ntdll.dll LdrpCheckForLoadedDll+0x1e3
12 ntdll.dll LdrpLoadDll+0x162 0x77895af2
13 ntdll.dll LdrLoadDll+0x136 0x77895836
14 kernel32.dll LoadLibraryExW+0x15e
15 mscorwks.dll Thread::UserSleep+0x139
16 mscorwks.dll CLRLoadLibraryEx+0xb6
17 mscorwks.dll DoPreloadLibraryThrowing+0x152
18 mscorwks.dll CorDelayLoadHook+0x1e
19 mscorwks.dll _delayLoadHelper2+0x1e3
20 mscorwks.dll _tailMerge_VERSION_dll+0x3f
21 mscorwks.dll GetFileVersionInfoSizeW_NoThrow+0x5c
22 mscorwks.dll DwGetAssemblyVersion+0x6f
23 mscorwks.dll GetManagedBucketParametersForIp+0xf5
24 mscorwks.dll GetBucketParametersForManagedException+0x3f
25 mscorwks.dll Thread::ReturnToContext+0x356
26 mscorwks.dll GetResourceStringFromManaged+0x1f0
27 mscorwks.dll GetResourceFromDefault+0x139
28 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x34c332
29 mscorwks.dll CallDescrWorker+0x82
30 mscorwks.dll CallDescrWorkerWithHandler+0xe5
31 mscorwks.dll MethodDesc::CallDescr+0x306
32 mscorwks.dll InvokeUtil::CreateTargetExcept+0x1da
33 mscorwks.dll `string'+0xa044c
34 mscorwks.dll RuntimeMethodHandle::SerializationInvoke+0x221
35 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2e744d
36 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc3a0
37 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc4e6
38 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2dc723
39 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x19cd0b
40 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x1aca66
41 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28f729
42 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28fe1b
43 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x2904f3
44 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28e6dc
45 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0x28e75d
46 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d62e5
47 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d61e6
48 System.ni.dll System.ni.dll+0x2d64a0
49 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe16c2
50 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe1eda
51 MIGUIControls.ni.dll MIGUIControls.ni.dll+0xe2ca2
52 TaskScheduler.ni.dll TaskScheduler.ni.dll+0x6ba7
Did you make any changes to COM+ or DCOM at all?
Edited stack from event 396395 - not sure if "RealCOMPlusThrow" is a possible cause or simply a symptom:
CODE
63 kernel32.dll RaiseException+0x39
64 mscorwks.dll RaiseTheExceptionInternalOnly
65 mscorwks.dll RaiseTheException+0x57
66 mscorwks.dll BStrFromString+0x66
67 mscorwks.dll RealCOMPlusThrow+0x35
68 mscorwks.dll RealCOMPlusThrow+0xb
69 mscorwks.dll `string'+0xa2724
70 mscorwks.dll CrossDomainChannel::ExecuteCrossDomainCall+0x59
71 mscorwks.dll CrossDomainChannel::CheckCrossDomainCall+0x100
72 mscorwks.dll CTPMethodTable::OnCall+0xd4
73 mscorwks.dll TransparentProxyStub_CrossContext+0x64
74 MMCEx.ni.dll MMCEx.ni.dll+0x3a509
75 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0xa9710
76 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0xeeacf
64 mscorwks.dll RaiseTheExceptionInternalOnly
65 mscorwks.dll RaiseTheException+0x57
66 mscorwks.dll BStrFromString+0x66
67 mscorwks.dll RealCOMPlusThrow+0x35
68 mscorwks.dll RealCOMPlusThrow+0xb
69 mscorwks.dll `string'+0xa2724
70 mscorwks.dll CrossDomainChannel::ExecuteCrossDomainCall+0x59
71 mscorwks.dll CrossDomainChannel::CheckCrossDomainCall+0x100
72 mscorwks.dll CTPMethodTable::OnCall+0xd4
73 mscorwks.dll TransparentProxyStub_CrossContext+0x64
74 MMCEx.ni.dll MMCEx.ni.dll+0x3a509
75 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0xa9710
76 mscorlib.ni.dll mscorlib.ni.dll+0xeeacf
mmc loads with no snap-ins loaded ok, as soon as I try and add task scheduler it crashes. I don't get as far as to select local computer.
The only changes I've made are what I have said previously. No changes to c COM+ or DCOM.
FYI - I installed a 30day eval copy of Vista 64bit Ultimate in a VM on my copy of Vista64 Home Premium and the eval copy running Ultimate runs Task Scheduler and Event Viewer without issue.
Time for a reinstall I think.
The only changes I've made are what I have said previously. No changes to c COM+ or DCOM.
FYI - I installed a 30day eval copy of Vista 64bit Ultimate in a VM on my copy of Vista64 Home Premium and the eval copy running Ultimate runs Task Scheduler and Event Viewer without issue.
Time for a reinstall I think.
At this point, yes, I'd say so. It would take a quite thorough debug of your running box to figure out where the exception is firing (this looks like OLE code running in .NET, meaning we are indeed doing inter-process communication in this procmon and something's misconfigured or something installed is getting it's mitts on the communication and screwing it up.
If you don't mind backing up your data and reinstalling clean, that will be far easier (and quicker) than tracking this down.
If you don't mind backing up your data and reinstalling clean, that will be far easier (and quicker) than tracking this down.
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