TheMadGuy
Jul 28 2005, 04:04 AM
QUOTE (Fascix @ Jul 26 2005, 06:44 PM)
Hope you dont think i am a pain in the a**... just like your program and want to help you out.
Thanx
Dont worry i dont!
I'm am the master of typing errors, and my written english isnt the best either.
Besides that i am trying to create an app to make modders life easier, so any
input is welcome, maybe i wont be able, maybe i just dont want to realize everything thats suggested, but i at least will consider any suggestion.
And i'm happy about any help i get
sigepluto
Jul 28 2005, 11:29 AM

I download the WinntbbuED,but i found if it could only modify the winntbbu file in english version.
there is a error dialog when i open a chinese version winntbbu.dll file.
I hope the WinntbbuED could sustain the other language.
TheMadGuy
Jul 29 2005, 12:29 AM
QUOTE (sigepluto @ Jul 28 2005, 07:29 PM)

I download the WinntbbuED,but i found if it could only modify the winntbbu file in english version.
there is a error dialog when i open a chinese version winntbbu.dll file.
I hope the WinntbbuED could sustain the other language.
Hi! Actually it does work with other languages, at least i tested it with english and german, but never with chinese, if you can share the winntbbu.dll that gives you that error, i will look into it and try to figure out whats different and why it gives you that error.
TheMadGuy
Jul 29 2005, 05:16 AM
Hi All!
so i have some good news and some bad news,
the bad ones first, i havent completed syssetup.dll support yet, and research might still take some time
the good one, did some more changes to the editor, which imho are worth a new release.
so here we go:
CODE
V0.3.1 Mainly Bug Fixes
f - filename check for .dl_ is no longer case sensitive
f - case of filename is no longer changed after expanding
f - minor error in the internal preview, the internal preview
has an extension of 640x480 but the top left logo was the
medium size which is used with 800x600. Now the appropiate
Picture is used
f - makecab is now executed passing the path of the original
file to be compressed, before there was no path used.
Which let the compressed file end up somewhere on the system
instead of the directory of the uncompressed one
f - some minor grammar errors
f - bug with the color editing, where canceling didnt restore the
previous colors
c - Default selected Logo in the Edit Pictures Dialog is now
small, reflecting the change in the internal preview
c - Link Destionation for the first and Description for the second
link in the about Dialog. They are more accurate now
c - the order of the items on the extra menu. This should improve
handling a bit
c - the way the edit pictures dialog fetches its images, this was
neccessary to display the step pictures correctly. this was no
longer correct since the Transparency color was added
c - minor layout corrections to the Edit Pictures Dialog
c - Moved Cabbing Menus to an own submenu on Extras
c - most of the loading messages to reflect the actual filename
c - Release mechanism and release point, hopefully eliminating the
error 70
a - Auto Expand for syssetup.dl_ aswell
now, if no syssetup.dll but a syssetup.dl_ is found in the
same directory as the winntbbu.dll you will be able to let
WinntbbuED expand it automaticly if possible
a - two new options to settings to dis/enable syssetup expandation
a - sub menu to Extras to apply makecab on syssetup.dll if present
a - right click context menu to the pictures in the edit picture
dialog, you can save pictures from there now
a - clear option to the context menu for the pictures. you can
now remove the logos and the step images completely
n - clearing works in different ways, for the logo's they get
completely deleted from the resources, the step pictures are
replace with original size images in the transparency color, so
if you change that color you will have to reclear those images.
This is necessary because of the way winntbbu.dll handeles its
resources. This is the most compilant way possible.
Clearing of the Animation Images is NOT supported, winntbbu.dll
doesnt handle that, if you want to remove those, i suggest you
replace them with 1x1 pictures matching your background image
color.
Now Get your WinntbbuED 0.3.1 and enjoy
Mirrors:(Thnx 2 Kelsenellenelvian & maxXPsoft for providing them)Rapidshare LinkmaxXPsoft MirrorKelsenellenelvian Mirror`Felix`MirrorOn a side node, i will be on vacation the next week, so dont wonder if you dont hear anything from me for that time
KMan
Jul 29 2005, 05:41 AM
Thank you for the new version!
will got testing right away
KMan
maxXPsoft
Jul 29 2005, 11:05 AM
Fascix
Jul 31 2005, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (TheMadGuy @ Jul 28 2005, 11:56 AM)
QUOTE (Fascix @ Jul 26 2005, 06:24 PM)
Oki doki here we go:
First launced v0.3.0
then opened up a copy of winntbbu.dll (that i have copied from my unattended winxp sp2 dir, to the WinntbbuED dir)
then i made some changes (doesent matter what kind of changes, i have the same error when i just save it over whitout have done ANY changes)
then i save it to the filename winntbbux.dll (note the X inte the end)
then i made some more changes to winntbbux.dll and try to save it again (over the already existing winntbbux.dll file)
This is where the error occurs.
Tell me if you want more info on hardware, WinXP sp2 patches i have installed, Programs i use or any other info neseccary to fix this.
EDIT: Ohh and in the settings of WinntbbdED i have ticked both options!
Thanx
This is very weird, i have hardly tried to reproduce this error,
using different winntbbu.dll's and making no or different changes.
I just cant raise this error

would you be willing to run a special debug version, if so i will build one
which will produce a special .log file, since i currently have no idea why a lock
is kept open!
Besides that it would be nice if you could look at this
Post and get unlocker to verify it's the editor itself keeping the lock open.
Any help is highly appreciated on this one
Sure ill give it a shot no problem. just PM me when its done and ill test it for ya
Fascix
Jul 31 2005, 09:23 AM
Btw. Will get a look att the new version now.. sweet
ill test tis puppy out

great proggi
sigepluto
Jul 31 2005, 10:14 PM
QUOTE (TheMadGuy @ Jul 29 2005, 02:29 PM)
QUOTE (sigepluto @ Jul 28 2005, 07:29 PM)

I download the WinntbbuED,but i found if it could only modify the winntbbu file in english version.
there is a error dialog when i open a chinese version winntbbu.dll file.
I hope the WinntbbuED could sustain the other language.
Hi! Actually it does work with other languages, at least i tested it with english and german, but never with chinese, if you can share the winntbbu.dll that gives you that error, i will look into it and try to figure out whats different and why it gives you that error.

Thank your reply!!
But i think The WinntbbuED may be not Support the WindowXp in chinese.
I use many Winntbbu.dll ,but none of them could work.
This is my Winntbbu.dll :
http://rapidshare.de/files/3537204/WINNTBBU.DLL.htmland this is another one i download from the web ( I think its in english version )
http://rapidshare.de/files/3537328/WINNTBBU.DLL.htmland both are not work. The error is the same.
I need your help!
Thank you very much.
Kelsenellenelvian
Jul 31 2005, 10:32 PM
sigepluto
Aug 1 2005, 01:45 AM
QUOTE (kelsenellenelvian @ Aug 1 2005, 12:32 PM)
I donwload it and had a try ,it still dont work.
the error is the same.
But thank you all the same.
piXelatedEmpire
Aug 1 2005, 02:15 AM
QUOTE
so here we go:
CODE
V0.3.1 Mainly Bug Fixes
f - filename check for .dl_ is no longer case sensitive
f - case of filename is no longer changed after expanding
f - minor error in the internal preview, the internal preview
has an extension of 640x480 but the top left logo was the
medium size which is used with 800x600. Now the appropiate
Picture is used
f - makecab is now executed passing the path of the original
file to be compressed, before there was no path used.
Which let the compressed file end up somewhere on the system
instead of the directory of the uncompressed one
f - some minor grammar errors
f - bug with the color editing, where canceling didnt restore the
previous colors
c - Default selected Logo in the Edit Pictures Dialog is now
small, reflecting the change in the internal preview
c - Link Destionation for the first and Description for the second
link in the about Dialog. They are more accurate now
c - the order of the items on the extra menu. This should improve
handling a bit
c - the way the edit pictures dialog fetches its images, this was
neccessary to display the step pictures correctly. this was no
longer correct since the Transparency color was added
c - minor layout corrections to the Edit Pictures Dialog
c - Moved Cabbing Menus to an own submenu on Extras
c - most of the loading messages to reflect the actual filename
c - Release mechanism and release point, hopefully eliminating the
error 70
a - Auto Expand for syssetup.dl_ aswell
now, if no syssetup.dll but a syssetup.dl_ is found in the
same directory as the winntbbu.dll you will be able to let
WinntbbuED expand it automaticly if possible
a - two new options to settings to dis/enable syssetup expandation
a - sub menu to Extras to apply makecab on syssetup.dll if present
a - right click context menu to the pictures in the edit picture
dialog, you can save pictures from there now
a - clear option to the context menu for the pictures. you can
now remove the logos and the step images completely
n - clearing works in different ways, for the logo's they get
completely deleted from the resources, the step pictures are
replace with original size images in the transparency color, so
if you change that color you will have to reclear those images.
This is necessary because of the way winntbbu.dll handeles its
resources. This is the most compilant way possible.
Clearing of the Animation Images is NOT supported, winntbbu.dll
doesnt handle that, if you want to remove those, i suggest you
replace them with 1x1 pictures matching your background image
color.
GREAT STUFF

progressing nicely
darkstonexa
Aug 1 2005, 04:14 AM
I can open the standard Winntbbu.dll on the xp installation and make modifications to my hearts content
BUT if I download anyones dll say from the Yahoo group and go
Edit -> pictures I get the following error
Runtime error '91'
object variable or with block variable not set...
is there a solution to this problem...
Thanks
maxXPsoft
Aug 4 2005, 06:16 PM
@darkstonexa
Hes on vacation right now and keep that dll available so maybe you can post it somewhere he can work with it or a link. The ones I d/l used to do that but they don't anymore. I haven't tried any new ones lately.
TheMadGuy
Aug 12 2005, 05:56 AM
Hi All!
Ok, I'm back!
Time to catch up...
Added the Mirrors to the release post, thnx again to maxXPsoft & Kelsenellenelvian for providing them.
TheMadGuy
Aug 12 2005, 06:12 AM
@All Experiencing Unknown Problems & Errors:
Here is a special Debug Version:
WinntbbuED_Debug.exeTo find and iron out the Bugs i cant reproduce, i will need your help,
so please get the Debug Version and post what happens when you run it
on those files that dont work, and if you can share those files here aswell that would be perfect.
The Debug Version provides extended error information for me, so either post the message or simply post a screenshot of it here. tia.
@those getting error 70:
you will find a WinntbbuED.log on your Systemdrives root, i need you to
post this log here, and as mentioned several times before on this topic
please get
Unlocker and check which programs have a lock open on the file in the moment the error occours.
Hope we'll get further now.
TheMadGuy
Aug 12 2005, 06:16 AM
QUOTE (sigepluto @ Aug 1 2005, 06:14 AM)
...

Thank your reply!!
But i think The WinntbbuED may be not Support the WindowXp in chinese.
I use many Winntbbu.dll ,but none of them could work.
This is my Winntbbu.dll :
http://rapidshare.de/files/3537204/WINNTBBU.DLL.htmland this is another one i download from the web ( I think its in english version )
http://rapidshare.de/files/3537328/WINNTBBU.DLL.htmland both are not work. The error is the same.
I need your help!
Thank you very much.
Hi!
ok, i downloaded the files and checked they work just fine, so i suspect this could indeed be a problem caused by the os that WinntbbuEd is run on.
To narrow down on this problem i will require you to run the Debug Version i put online.
Please check this post
here and i am sure we'll get this fixed aswell
TheMadGuy
Aug 12 2005, 06:19 AM
QUOTE (darkstonexa @ Aug 1 2005, 12:14 PM)
I can open the standard Winntbbu.dll on the xp installation and make modifications to my hearts content
BUT if I download anyones dll say from the Yahoo group and go
Edit -> pictures I get the following error
Runtime error '91'
object variable or with block variable not set...
is there a solution to this problem...
Thanks
Hi!
please make sure you are using the latest Version.
If this doenst help, i currently startet a Debug Run, you can download a special
Debug Build to give me some extended Error Information, you can find the Debug Release
here.
Fascix
Aug 14 2005, 03:50 AM
Hmm strange...!!!
I canīt seem to reproduce the error i reported erlier!?!?!
Not with the debugversion or the regular version!
I have tried so many things for the error to reapeer but whit no luck...
Hmmm odd!
piXelatedEmpire
Aug 14 2005, 04:14 AM
don't look a gift horse in the mouth
darkstonexa
Aug 14 2005, 06:37 AM
QUOTE (TheMadGuy @ Aug 12 2005, 10:19 PM)
QUOTE (darkstonexa @ Aug 1 2005, 12:14 PM)
I can open the standard Winntbbu.dll on the xp installation and make modifications to my hearts content
BUT if I download anyones dll say from the Yahoo group and go
Edit -> pictures I get the following error
Runtime error '91'
object variable or with block variable not set...
is there a solution to this problem...
Thanks
Hi!
please make sure you are using the latest Version.
If this doenst help, i currently startet a Debug Run, you can download a special
Debug Build to give me some extended Error Information, you can find the Debug Release
here.
Well I have tried the debug version and I don't get the error I was getting but I do get
object variable or with block variable not set in winntbbued.frmeditpictures.copypics at line 110
again at line 112
again at line 158
it repeats 3 times
but I can get the dialogue box that alters the images
this is the contents of the log from root directory
14/08/2005 10:20:38 PM Debuging started
14/08/2005 10:20:46 PM LoadLibrary: G:\dload\XP installs\setup\WINNTBBU_msn.DLL (1)
14/08/2005 10:20:46 PM LoadLibrary: G:\dload\XP installs\setup\syssetup.dll (1)
14/08/2005 10:22:09 PM FreeLibrary: G:\dload\XP installs\setup\WINNTBBU_msn.DLL (0)
14/08/2005 10:22:09 PM FreeLibrary: G:\dload\XP installs\setup\syssetup.dll (0)
14/08/2005 10:22:09 PM Debuging ended
The file I'm using is the msfn version which can be got ont the yahoo groups page..
TheMadGuy
Aug 16 2005, 06:22 AM
QUOTE (Fascix @ Aug 14 2005, 11:50 AM)
I have tried so many things for the error to reapeer but whit no luck...
Depends on the point of view
though indeed this wont help much in solving the problem, if it still exists
any1 else on this ???
TheMadGuy
Aug 16 2005, 06:27 AM
QUOTE (darkstonexa @ Aug 14 2005, 02:37 PM)
The file I'm using is the msfn version which can be got ont the yahoo groups page..
I'm not signed up to yahoo, would you might sharing this file any way i can publicly access ?!?
maxXPsoft
Aug 16 2005, 06:34 PM
WINNTBBU_msn.DLL
Could the error be because of naming? I allways put in a separate dir and name it WINNTBBU.DLL to edit
KMan
Aug 17 2005, 02:20 AM
QUOTE (maxXPsoft @ Aug 16 2005, 06:34 PM)
WINNTBBU_msn.DLL
Could the error be because of naming? I allways put in a separate dir and name it WINNTBBU.DLL to edit
Hi!
i dont think so, the name did not matter so far while i was playing with the editor!
Greetings
KMan
TheMadGuy
Aug 17 2005, 03:30 AM
I can confirm this, the filename does not matter in anyway, except when i accidently used a case sensitive compare for the '.dl_' check, which has been fixed. The error darkstonexa described sounds like a missing resource id problem, but i cant check aslong as i dont have the .dll to work with
TheMadGuy
Aug 17 2005, 03:49 AM
btw, i havent mentioned this yet, but since the debug version is based on my in work build, you can edit the time remaining strings from the syssetup.dll if it is found, but nothing more yet.
But hey, its a start, isnt it ?
Note: DONT remove the %d from the first string, its replaced by the actual minutes when the used in setup
maxXPsoft
Aug 23 2005, 07:21 AM
Was just a thought on the name
I guess we all holding our breath to see whats next.
TheMadGuy
Aug 23 2005, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (maxXPsoft @ Aug 23 2005, 03:21 PM)
I guess we all holding our breath to see whats next.
Hi m8!
at the moment not really much, i barely have any freetime, and my main concerns are the bugs at the moment, but with such little feedback i cant
make any progress on this at all.
Hope to have more time again next month...
Kelsenellenelvian
Sep 3 2005, 02:46 AM
Why the hell isn't this a sticky yet?
leonx81
Sep 6 2005, 02:15 AM
Hi, when I run it, I've encountered such a problem:
run-time error'380':
Invalid property value.
Please help me out here, thanks in advance.
maxXPsoft
Sep 10 2005, 09:58 PM
Usually indicates a Font Error. May not be so with this app but heres a link
http://www.kb.techknow-how.com/exports/par...-234882545.html
TheMadGuy
Sep 12 2005, 03:32 AM
QUOTE (kelsenellenelvian @ Sep 3 2005, 10:46 AM)
Why the hell isn't this a sticky yet?
TheMadGuy
Sep 12 2005, 03:34 AM
QUOTE (leonx81 @ Sep 6 2005, 10:15 AM)
Hi, when I run it, I've encountered such a problem:
run-time error'380':
Invalid property value.
Please help me out here, thanks in advance.
Hi!
Can you give some more info plz ?
Like:
Dll Version
You Os Version & Language
WinnBBUEd Version
TheMadGuy
Sep 12 2005, 03:36 AM
QUOTE (maxXPsoft @ Sep 11 2005, 05:58 AM)
Usually indicates a Font Error. May not be so with this app but heres a link
http://www.kb.techknow-how.com/exports/par...-234882545.htmlHi!
i would also think it's very likely that this is a font issue.
though i currently have no real idea from where its raised.
TheMadGuy
Sep 12 2005, 03:40 AM
Hi All!
just a short appology for my absence lately,
but in some points beyond my influence real life is keeping me very busy,
so there is no progress on the next release yet.
I hope to find more time again soon and will pick up development again asap.
Hopefully i will be checking the thread(s) more regulary again also.
maxXPsoft
Sep 12 2005, 06:23 AM
QUOTE (TheMadGuy @ Sep 12 2005, 03:36 AM)
i would also think it's very likely that this is a font issue.
though i currently have no real idea from where its raised.
Yep be good to have that file he getting it with, shooting blindly in the dark without it.
n7Epsilon
Sep 12 2005, 04:19 PM
@leonx81,
- Are you trying to edit a UPX'd WINNTBBU.DLL, as i got your exact same error when i tried to edit the pictures of my WINNTBBU.DLL (which is compressed by UPX)...?
When I load the UPX'd winntbbu.dll into winntbbu.dll it loads fine but errors when trying to save and corrupts the upx'd winntbbu.dll file..
Kalps
Sep 18 2005, 07:19 AM
Ya this is the Same Prob I m Facing , Winntbbu.dll loads succefully for me, also I can edit all the parts like Text and pictures , but wen I try to save the work it gives error like Program Created problem and Shuts down.
So What's the solution to this prob , also can it be because of BMP/picture file I m using.
Kelsenellenelvian
Oct 13 2005, 04:24 AM
So is any futher development being done??
TheMadGuy
Oct 17 2005, 04:55 AM
QUOTE (kelsenellenelvian @ Oct 13 2005, 12:24 PM)

So is any futher development being done??
Hi!
first of all sorry for my long absence, 2nd i'm still a bit short in time, so i cant reply to all posts right now.
Had some bigger impacts to real life to handle, some bad (e.g. car accident

) some good (e.g. I'm married now

)
So there hasnt been any time for development since the Debug Version.
But things are slowly getting back to normal and i'm expecting to be able to pick up development again within this month.
I'll be back (couldnt resist

)
maxXPsoft
Oct 17 2005, 07:24 AM
Ok then 'Arnold'
Get Back then,

btw congrats on the marriage, guess we now have to wait till the honeymoon is over
dr911
Nov 4 2005, 12:45 AM
Do I need an XP system or can I run this on 98se OS ??
`Felix`
Nov 5 2005, 11:20 PM
QUOTE (TheMadGuy @ Jul 7 2005, 07:11 PM)

Hi Evry1!
I'm not sure if i am too late with this, since not much happening here anymore...
But anyways, i had a little spare time and was tired of the work needed to modify texts in the winntbbu.dll, so i put together a little VB-Application.
I tried to keep it as tight as possible, so if i am not mistaken all you will need to run this are the vb6 runtimes (which, if you dont run winxp anyway, can get from ms directly).
Comments & Suggestions are very welcome
The Mad Guy
Hi Mad Guy,
Excellent little application and very, very helpful - thankyou! I have a suggestion for you - do you think you can put a similar application together to edit the loginui.exe file?
BTW i will putting a mirror in on my site this week for this tool to show my support
sarkar1985
Nov 10 2005, 10:23 AM
thanks a lot dude
`Felix`
Nov 12 2005, 06:53 AM
is there a way to move the 5 tasks (located down the left side) down a little to allow for 2 or three lines of text with this tool?
Also i have a suggestion for the tool; It would be great if you could save your template or preferences - that way if MS do updates that effect the .dll files, then you could simply load the editor and then apply your template/preferences to the .dll's again and save. Would be very handy
piXelatedEmpire
Nov 12 2005, 07:34 PM
I see where you are coming from Felix, but what are the chances os M$ making any changes to these particular .dll's?
`Felix`
Nov 12 2005, 09:30 PM
well vista comes to mind
AHRIMANSEFID
Nov 14 2005, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (darkstonexa @ Aug 1 2005, 01:44 PM)

I can open the standard Winntbbu.dll on the xp installation and make modifications to my hearts content
BUT if I download anyones dll say from the Yahoo group and go
Edit -> pictures I get the following error
Runtime error '91'
object variable or with block variable not set...
is there a solution to this problem...
Thanks
me too plz help
debug no't download
LaptoniC
Nov 27 2005, 04:57 AM
I have Turkish Windows XP and your tool only shows english resources(strings,bmps....).I have opened with Reshacker and saw that for every resource there is 2 entry,one is english and other is turkish.For example
CODE
1 STRINGTABLE
LANGUAGE LANG_ENGLISH, SUBLANG_ENGLISH_US
...
...
and
STRINGTABLE
LANGUAGE LANG_TURKISH, 0x1
...
...
Is it possible to add selection of code pages.With your tool I can only edit english resources.
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