Fernando 1
Aug 19 2008, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (LlamaLlamaLamp @ Aug 19 2008, 03:36 PM)

OOOOHHHHHHH CRAPPPPP!!!!!!!
This entire time, I think I've been applying all the nLite changes to the same source folder. I've done 6 cd's which all failed....all using the same source files...****.....maybe something to add to your guide?
I will do that.
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EDIT: install worked fine. now i know at least. thanks for all your help fernando!
You are welcome.
Fine, that you succeeded at least.
CU
Fernando
Bubs
Aug 22 2008, 02:39 PM
I'm confused on what to do at this point. I have tried 5 nlite discs unsuccessfully. Currently, I'm running on a 5 sata disc in raid array 0. I am trying to reformat with nLite by adding on the drivers. I recently took out my floppy disc drive because it failed.
Here is my system.
mobo: m2n-sli deluxe
NF: NF570sli
My raid array is currently active and healthy. When i boot up the nlite disc I continually get an error that windows XP installation can not see my hard drives in the raid array 0. I have tried the following drivers:
Download Fernandos XP 32bit NF4-5 non-AHCI WHQL Driverpack v3.0.zipNVIDIA SATA RAID F6 driverdisk 32 Bit V6.99As well as raid drivers from nvidia's website.
This process has worked for me when i used a floppy to load the drivers instead of nLite. I have tried only loading the nvidia raid drivers and NOT the nvidia IDE drivers, but no success. I have not tried loading the nvidia raid drivers one by one, i will load them both together.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Fernando 1
Aug 22 2008, 03:11 PM
@ Bubs:
If your RAID was detected by using the F6/floppy method, you will succeed with nLite by integrating the same drivers.
Are you sure, that you took the same drivers?
Have you enabled both "required" devices/drivers?
Bubs
Aug 22 2008, 04:06 PM
Current version of my "Nvidia nforce 590/570/550 Serial ATA Controller" is 5.10.2600.666. I no longer have these same drivers available (or know what i used) from the last time I installed via floppy disc. So therefore the driver(s) I have been using are NOT the same drivers i used before.
Have you enabled both "required" devices/drivers?
I'll assume you're referring to adding the two drivers in text mode in the nLite program. Yes, I have added
"NVIDIA nForce storage Controller (required)"
"NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER (required)"
I cannot load these two drivers one by one, only together. Am using nLite 1.4.8
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Update:
Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe NF470SLI AM2
AMD A64 X2 5600 2.8 AM2 2X1M (Overclocked 10%)
1Gx2 Corsair 6400
5xHDD 320GB using RAID 0 on the Nvidia 570 controller
Using Mediashield Rom Bios 6.73.
Bios has Raid controller enabled, and all SATA slots enabled, JMicron Raid is disabled (do not have any HDD's in them anyways)
Tried using the drivers from the motherboard CD, failed.
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Here's my exact process:
1. Load up nLite, with legal windows xp pro cd inserted in cd-rom.
2. Extract windows xp pro files to a destination folder, press next twice.
3. Go to drivers menu, insert files by this process:
- Files have been downloaded and extracted to a directory
- Raid drivers have three subfolders ( Ethernet, IDE, SMBus)
I go to IDE > WINXP > sataraid > "nvraid.inf", i am given an option now to stay at default (loading two files mentioned above) in textmode.
4. Press back, then select "Bootable ISO"
5. Change menu to Direct Burn, start burn.
TranceEnergy
Aug 22 2008, 04:25 PM
Just a heads up. On using standard sata in native mode on amd/ati mainboards. Ati has amd pci ide sata controller for 32/64bit in their vista x64 southbridge driver, that works at least for me on xp 64bit.
They do not pack the same driver with the xp x64 southbridge driver. Latest version is 8-8_vista32-64_sb_67983.exe (20738kb), 8-8_xp32-64_sb_67979.exe is just 5208KB, so its sizeable difference.
The vistax64 package also contains the ngio 3g or whats it name, filter driver for pci-express port, which requires visual basic 2005+ to be working i think. The vistax64 driver contains that i believe+2008 version.
Fernando 1
Aug 23 2008, 02:35 AM
QUOTE (Bubs @ Aug 23 2008, 12:06 AM)

Current version of my "Nvidia nforce 590/570/550 Serial ATA Controller" is 5.10.2600.666. I no longer have these same drivers available (or know what i used) from the last time I installed via floppy disc. So therefore the driver(s) I have been using are NOT the same drivers i used before.
The nForce IDE drivers v6.66 are part of NVIDIA's official nForce chipset driverpack 9.16.
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Bios has Raid controller enabled, and all SATA slots enabled
Is your RAID shown as "healthy" and set as bootable within the nVRAID BIOS Utility?
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Here's my exact process:
1. Load up nLite, with legal windows xp pro cd inserted in cd-rom.
2. Extract windows xp pro files to a destination folder, press next twice.
3. Go to drivers menu, insert files by this process:
- Files have been downloaded and extracted to a directory
- Raid drivers have three subfolders ( Ethernet, IDE, SMBus)
I go to IDE > WINXP > sataraid > "nvraid.inf", i am given an option now to stay at default (loading two files mentioned above) in textmode.
4. Press back, then select "Bootable ISO"
5. Change menu to Direct Burn, start burn.
Have you tried to additionally load the SATA_IDE driver folder (as PnP driver)?
QUOTE (TranceEnergy @ Aug 23 2008, 12:25 AM)

Just a heads up. On using standard sata in native mode on amd/ati mainboards. Ati has amd pci ide sata controller for 32/64bit in their vista x64 southbridge driver, that works at least for me on xp 64bit.
They do not pack the same driver with the xp x64 southbridge driver. Latest version is 8-8_vista32-64_sb_67983.exe (20738kb), 8-8_xp32-64_sb_67979.exe is just 5208KB, so its sizeable difference.
The vistax64 package also contains the ngio 3g or whats it name, filter driver for pci-express port, which requires visual basic 2005+ to be working i think. The vistax64 driver contains that i believe+2008 version.
I don't understand the sense of your post.
The topic here is the integration of the
NVIDIA nForce S-ATA and RAID drivers, S-ATA and RAID drivers delivered by
AMD/ATI do not work with nForce chipset mainboards.
Bubs
Aug 23 2008, 03:28 AM
Yes, raid is listed as healthy on boot up.
Yes, i just tried putting the raid_ide driver on as well, no success.
Would like to note, that i do not see windows load any of the drivers at the bottom of the screen when running the drivers i placed on the CD through nLite.
Fernando 1
Aug 23 2008, 03:59 AM
QUOTE (Bubs @ Aug 23 2008, 11:28 AM)

Would like to note, that i do not see windows load any of the drivers at the bottom of the screen when running the drivers i placed on the CD through nLite.
Look into the i386 folder of your nLited CD.
Do you see files named "NVRAID.SY_" and "NVATA.SY_"?
Bubs
Aug 23 2008, 11:35 PM
No i do not, however when i run nLite and load the drivers the file size of the CD increases.
Fernando 1
Aug 24 2008, 01:13 AM
QUOTE (Bubs @ Aug 24 2008, 07:35 AM)

No i do not, however when i run nLite and load the drivers the file size of the CD increases.
It seems, that you either did not take an
original (=untouched) XP CD as source (without loading any last_session.ini file) or did not integrate the nForce SATARAID folder as
TEXTMODE driver.
MAFinOKC
Sep 10 2008, 11:43 AM
Dear Fernando,
Please accept my sincerest appreciation for your post on integration of NVIDIA nForce RAID and SATA drivers. We recently bought a refurbished Dell XPS 720 running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with a 320-GB Seagate Barracuda HD. We installed a second identical HD and I foolishly thought the instructions in the XPS manual would allow me to reinstall the OS onto a RAID1 array. I tried it without "doing my homework" and succeeded only in rendering the machine inoperative. After scouring the Web for days trying to find a solution, I came across your post and I'm delighted to say it worked. However, I have a sort of followup question: I went to the file archive you pointed at and downloaded your zipped archives of the appropriate drivers. However, it seems to me that I used only a few files from the whole package. What are all the other files for, and should I have done something else with them?
Yours,
MAFinOKC
Oklahoma
Fernando 1
Sep 10 2008, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (MAFinOKC @ Sep 10 2008, 07:43 PM)

I have a sort of followup question: I went to the file archive you pointed at and downloaded your zipped archives of the appropriate drivers. However, it seems to me that I used only a few files from the whole package. What are all the other files for, and should I have done something else with them?
Hello MAFinOKC,
thanks for your feedback.
Although I am not sure, that I did understand your question, I will try to answer:
Unfortunately users can't download simply the needed nForce SataRaid textmode drivers from NVIDIA's websites. They have to download the complete nForce chipset driver package. These driverpacks may contain nForce drivers, which are not needed by the user and drivers, which nobody would integrate. Furthermore the nForce chipset driverpacks usually contain tools (RAIDTOOL and NAM), which only a few users will need or want to install.
CU
Fernando
MAFinOKC
Sep 10 2008, 05:44 PM
Thank you! That's good enough.
fgb
Sep 11 2008, 07:44 AM
Hey Fernando, I need some help, and I registered for this reason alone, I'm sick of Vista's performance crap, so I'm moving back to my s2k3, as it's blazing fast. I have a nVidia 8200 chipset, and I already have the drivers, I've tried all this integration stuff over 8 times, that's writing and rewriting dvd-rw's and cd-rw's. It's getting annoying, I don't wish to be insulting or rude, but your instructions are very unclear, one paragraph you state a MS IDE driver suppression, which is my main problem, since I can never get past the final hardware detection part of the installation, but in the rest of the instructions, you never mention it again. So, therefore I do not know how to bypass this problem.
Could you teach me how I could go about installing/integrating these drivers through nLite, so I can suppress the MS IDE drivers? As I've said, this is my main problem, as the hardware installation section works fine through and through, but when I restart I get the dreaded STOP errors which are obviously associated with mainly drivers in this scenario.
I have a SATA IDE system. No RAID as far as I know.
Thanks a billion in advance.
Fernando 1
Sep 11 2008, 09:34 AM
@ fgb:
Welcome at MSFN Forums!
Here is my reply:
1. My guide is intended for users, who want to integrate the nForce
RAID drivers. Since you don't have a RAID system, you won't find much help within my guide to solve your problem.
2. nLite has a
built-in "MS IDE driver suppression", which makes it possible to get even unsigned nForce S-ATA drivers installed. Since this method is already incorporated into nLite, the user has nothing to do. That is why you don't find any instructions within my guide about how to suppress the generic MS IDE drivers.
3. Since you obviously are not using your S-ATA Controllers in "AHCI mode" (BIOS settings will be "IDE mode"),
you don't need to integrate any nForce textmode driver.
4. If you want to use the nForce S-ATA driver instead of the generic MS IDE drivers, you have to integrate the suitable SATA_IDE subfolder as
PnP driver.
Unfortunately your post doesn't contain informations, which are needed to help you:
- Which nForce driver package version did you use?
- Which nForce IDE driver subfolder (SATA_IDE or SATARAID) did you integrate?
- Which integration mode did you use (TEXTMODE or PnP)?
- Are you running your nForce S-ATA Controllers in "AHCI mode" (according your mainboard BIOS settings)?
fgb
Sep 11 2008, 11:21 PM
I'm using the "nforce_winxp_18.11_english_whql" distro, which is an older version, not the latest from nVidia, but the reason for using this pack is that it contains the SATA_IDE and SATARAID folders within it.
I have tried combinations of SATA_IDE and/or SATARAID, and it has done the trick from what I know, at least one of the combinations of textmode/PnP driver has worked for me. I apologize for my lack of information, and AHCI is not mentioned at all in my BIOS. Edit: BIOS starts up, "Detecting IDE drives..."
What my situation looks is pretty simple; when I start the installation with the right integration it reads the disks, and I can proceed with installation. If I don't integrate, no disk detection and this leads to an obvious lack of partition detection. However, after the "blue screen" installation, and the reboot, I get to the GUI part of the installation interface. At this point the installer detects hardware, and finishes successfully. When I restart, during the OS boot screen, I get cut off, and receive the STOP error BSOD messages.
I further apologize as I had documented the exact error code(s) it had given me, as I wanted to find out their meaning, but have lost them.
My confusion comes from the idea of nLite helping with the protection of my integrated drivers, regardless of proper (or what I thought was proper) integration of the nForce/GeForce drivers I get BSOD'd at the last reboot, which is mentioned in your guide.
I am quite troubled with this situation, and have (admittedly) done little research on this condition. To be more accurate, I've done days worth of research to solve this problem, yet have found no solid answers.
I greatly appreciate your time.
Edit: I'm going to reattempt to scrap together my OS build, and integrate precisely these drivers (which I used in the successful attempts) as PnP drivers. I will post my results here as well.
Thanks again!
Fernando 1
Sep 12 2008, 01:37 AM
QUOTE (fgb @ Sep 12 2008, 07:21 AM)

I'm using the "nforce_winxp_18.11_english_whql" distro, which is an older version, not the latest from nVidia, but the reason for using this pack is that it contains the SATA_IDE and SATARAID folders within it.
All actual nForce chipset driver packages do contain SATA_IDE and SATARAID folders. You should take the package, which is suitable for the nForce chipset of your mainboard.
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I have tried combinations of SATA_IDE and/or SATARAID, and it has done the trick from what I know, at least one of the combinations of textmode/PnP driver has worked for me. I apologize for my lack of information, and AHCI is not mentioned at all in my BIOS.
You can easily check, if your S-ATA Controllers are running in "IDE mode" or not by booting off the original (= not nLted) XP CD.
If your S-ATA hdd and its partitions will be detected by the OS Setup, the S-ATA Controllers are running in "IDE mode" and you will be able to get the OS installed without loading/integrating any drivers.
If your hdd will not be detected this way, either "AHCI mode" or "RAID mode" has been enabled (maybe as default setting, which cannot be changed).
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What my situation looks is pretty simple; when I start the installation with the right integration it reads the disks, and I can proceed with installation. If I don't integrate, no disk detection and this leads to an obvious lack of partition detection. However, after the "blue screen" installation, and the reboot, I get to the GUI part of the installation interface. At this point the installer detects hardware, and finishes successfully. When I restart, during the OS boot screen, I get cut off, and receive the STOP error BSOD messages.
It seems, that the RAID function has been enabled within the mainboard BIOS. You should check that and - if possible - disable the RAID Controllers.
If you really need to get XP installed with enabled RAID Controllers, you have to choose the following textmode driver combination:
1. SATARAID as TEXTMODE (automaticly set by nLite) and
2. SATA_IDE as PNP (you have to enable the "PnP Mode" manually, because nLite will automaticly enable the "TEXTMODE mode", if you point to a driver folder, which contains a file named TXTSETUP.OEM).
fgb
Sep 12 2008, 08:56 AM
I'll try that, I had first tried SATA_IDE (full folder) as PnP drivers alone, and it wouldn't detect (did this this morning before I left for school). I wasn't thinking clearly and it became obvious when I was fully awake. I then rewrote the installation as SATA_IDE (full folder) PnP and SATA_IDE (floppy) for textmode, I got it to read the hdd and partitions during the "blue screen" install, and once again it was successful during the GUI hardware detection part however it gave me the STOP errors once again during the last reboot.
I never thought about using the RAID folder at all, since I never thought I would need it, but I'll try it out when I get home.
Fernando 1
Sep 12 2008, 09:43 AM
QUOTE (fgb @ Sep 12 2008, 04:56 PM)

I then rewrote the installation as SATA_IDE (full folder) PnP and SATA_IDE (floppy) for textmode,
Don't mix the integration method with F6/floppy loading! That doesn't work.
You should either boot off the original OS CD and load the floppy drivers after hittig F6
or integrate all needed TEXTMODE and PnP drivers inrto the OS CD by using nLite, but you should never combine both methods.
Just for you to remember:
The normal way to get Windows XP installed onto an nForce chipset system with enabled AHCI mode is to integrate just the SATA_IDE driver folder of an AHCI supporting driver set as
TEXTMODE driver. There is no additional PnP driver and no SATARAID driver folder needed!
fgb
Sep 12 2008, 05:47 PM
Oh no, let me clarify as I have been dropping information vaguely.
I'm using an XP distro of these drivers for Server 2003 as they have compatible architecture. I'm not using the latest drivers straight from nVidia because they don't have the SATA_IDE, etc. folders. Never have I used a floppy disk. I DO NOT plan on using one, or else I doubt I would have any problem in the first place. No no, I was talking about the "floppy" folder within the SATA_IDE. Sorry for my lack of detail.
I am in the process of using your method, as I just got home.
Edit: I tried your method and it didn't even detect the hdd during the blue install, I'm doing to create my own method, and pray that it works.

SATARAID as TXT
SATARAID as PnP
SATA_IDE as TXT
SATA_IDE as PnP
My logic; load 'em all and everyway and hope it works.
Then the rest of my drivers such as ethernet display and what-not.
I'll post my progress here in a bit, and once again, I really appreciate your help, you're an amazing person for attending to this thread so often, I must say.
Progress: Still didn't work! Amazing, it must be something more than just these drivers. I was able to finish up everything save the GUI once again. I'm wondering what is going on, because it can restart and I can see the boot screen. If I can see "Windows Server 2003" and the little load animation bar, then shouldn't it be able to read from the disk? I mean, this is a part of the OS, correct? What could this be?
Rig:
Acer Aspire X1200
AMD Athlon x64 X2 5000+ 2.6 GHz
4GB DDR2 Memory
320GB Western Digital HDD SATA SCSI IDE
nVidia 8200 Chipset/Integrated Graphics (mGPU)
Fernando 1
Sep 13 2008, 01:19 AM
QUOTE (fgb @ Sep 13 2008, 01:47 AM)

I'm using an XP distro of these drivers for Server 2003 as they have compatible architecture. I'm not using the latest drivers straight from nVidia because they don't have the SATA_IDE, etc. folders.
From whome did you get this information? You are totally wrong: All nForce driverpacks for Windows XP, which were released by NVIDIA within the last 3 years, have a SATA_IDE driver folder.
Nevertheless you cannot use any SATA_IDE driver folder. What you need to get your AHCI mode S-ATA Controllers detected, is a SATA_IDE driver, which does support AHCI. The driver name is NVGTS.SYS, the older nForce S-ATA drivers (without AHCI support) were named NVATA.SYS or NVATABUS.SYS.
Look into the SATA_IDE folder of the nForce chipset driver package you have used for files named NVGTS.SYS and TXTSETUP.OEM. If you should not find both of them, you simply took the wrong driver package.
This is what I suggest:
1. Download the brandnew nForce chipset driverpack 15.24 from NVIDIA's website and extract it.
2. Integrate the SATA_IDE driver folder as TEXTMODE driver by using nLite and burn the CD.
3. Boot off the CD and install XP.
fgb
Sep 13 2008, 11:41 AM
D: Haha, ahh I see, so pretty much scrap Server 2003 on this one and use XP? Over the years I've bought 95, 98, XP, XP x64, 2003 x86 Web Server (I was BROKE after s2k3, but my goodness, it's the most responsive OS I've ever used, which is why I want to use it.), Vista x64/x86. I'm pretty much an OS junkie. Also, I'm off to DL the latest nForce package.
Edit: I've downloaded "15.24_nforce_winxp32_international_whql.exe" which is the latest nForce driver package for my 8200, and I'm in the process of DL'ing nLite again.
Edit: I had been downloading GeForce 8 drivers. Xl
Edit: Also, please remember I'm using Server 2003 for my OS, not XP.
Fernando 1
Sep 13 2008, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (fgb @ Sep 13 2008, 07:41 PM)

Edit: Also, please remember I'm using Server 2003 for my OS, not XP.
I know that, but
1. Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 do have a very similar kernel,
2. Windows XP drivers usually work fine with Windows Server 2003 too and
3. there are only a few nForce drivers which were especially designed for W2k3 and
4. AFAIK there are no special W2k3 nForce IDE drivers, which do support AHCI.
Superxcm
Sep 15 2008, 10:31 AM
Hello Fernando,
seems your are the best in this kind of problem, and see lot of your post in lot of forum, but i still not find a solution to my problem.
Or maybe I am a little noob!
Ok so here it is :
I'm on a HyperSonic Aviator X20 with a Nvidia Nforce 4 motherboard, running on Vista Ultimate 64. I wanted to go back to xp x64, but as i have no floppy, I used the nlite version on a new Xp x64 + SP2 cd.
I try to add the latest driver in the nvidia website, the one in your thread, all i can find on internet and other forum, mix them all on 1 disc... after 16 burned cd, still the same problem.
"nvrdx64.sys is corrupted"....
I start to become crazy, did I do something wrong?
BTW xp32 work fine.
If you can help me on this, I will really appreciate.
Thanks in advance.
Simon.
Fernando 1
Sep 15 2008, 12:50 PM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 15 2008, 06:31 PM)

I wanted to go back to xp x64, but as i have no floppy, I used the nlite version on a new Xp x64 + SP2 cd.
I try to add the latest driver in the nvidia website, the one in your thread, all i can find on internet and other forum, mix them all on 1 disc... after 16 burned cd, still the same problem.
"nvrdx64.sys is corrupted"....
1. Check, if you really have used the 64bit version of Windows XP (XPx64) as source. It seems, that you took the 32bit XP version and tried to integrate 64bit drivers - that doesn't work!
2. Do you have a RAID array? If not, you should only integrate the SATA_IDE driver folder and not the SATARAID one.
3. Don't mix any drivers, before you try to integrate them.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 04:01 AM
Hi Fernando,
thanks for the reply,
1. I have Xpx64, it is what is write on the CD, and when i explore it i can find the 64 folder.
2. I don't know, it seems I have as at the boot of my computer I can see something about a raid Array write. But i don't know how to be sure if i use it or not. ( Sorry I am a noob!)
3. OK!
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 04:29 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 12:01 PM)

1. I have Xpx64, it is what is write on the CD, and when i explore it i can find the 64 folder.
The exact name of the 64bit directory is "AMD64". Do you see such directory within your source OS CD?
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2. I don't know, it seems I have as at the boot of my computer I can see something about a raid Array write. But i don't know how to be sure if i use it or not. ( Sorry I am a noob!)
You can easily check it by opening the Device Manager of Vista and looking into the "Storage Controllers" section.
If you see a device named "NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller", you are running RAID.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 04:48 AM
Hi,
yes there is the amd64 folder....and yes there is "NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller", and 2x "NVIDIA nForce Serial SATA Controller", and 1 Microsoft Iscsi Initiator.
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 05:09 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 12:48 PM)

yes there is the amd64 folder....and yes there is "NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller", and 2x "NVIDIA nForce Serial SATA Controller", and 1 Microsoft Iscsi Initiator.
Ok, then you should integrate the SATARAID driver folder of a 64bit nForce chipset driver package, which is suitable for the chipset of your mainboard. You have to integrate it as TEXTMODE driver.
If this should not work for you, you may additionally integrate the SATA_IDE driver folder, but as
PnP driver (you have to manually change the integration mode, which will be set automaticly to
TEXTMODE by nLite).
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 06:36 AM
Hi,
I already did it and get problem, actually i have no other choice beacause nlite put it in PnP for the Sataide driver( I use single driver, do i have to choose folder drivers?). Btw, they propose me 2 driver when i try to put the sataraid driver, i can of course choice between txt or Pnp mode but there is option integration :
NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller (required)
NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER (required).
I choose both, as it is write required.
And this i put as Textmode.
I did that and still have the same problem.
I don't understand why.
It is the last driver i just download from Nvidia Website for Nforce 4.
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 07:05 AM
@ Superxcm:
It's the first time you have mentioned the nForce chipset of your system.
The actual nForce chipset driverpacks 15.23/15.24 offered by NVIDIA obviously
do not support nForce4 RAID systems (although they are shown as compatible at NVIDIA's websites).
This is what I recommend for you:
Go
here, download the 64bit version of my "NF4-5 non-AHCI WHQL Driverpack" and unzip it.
Then integrate the SATARAID folder as TEXTMODE and the SATA_IDE folder content as PnP driver. You have to enable both "required" devices/drivers.
This way you will succeed with the XP x64 installation.
Good luck!
Fernando
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 07:08 AM
Dear Fernando,
I didn't know they don t support it!! Thanks a lot I ll try now!!
Let you how is going.
Thanks!
EDit: BTW is not better to take the "performance" driver? If they are compatible, or I can still install them after?
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 07:58 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 03:08 PM)

EDit: BTW is not better to take the "performance" driver? If they are compatible, or I can still install them after?
Yes, once XP x64 is up, you can install the 64bit "Performance Pack".
Attention: Before you are going to update the nForce IDE drivers, you should carefully read the guide within the first post of my XP nForce chipset driver thread. Don't reboot unless you have checked, that all nForce S-ATA and RAID devices (even the hidden ones) have successfully installed the updated driver version.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 08:18 AM
Hi Fernando,
Still get the nvredx64.sys corrupted message.... ****... what i did wrong...
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 04:18 PM)

Still get the nvredx64.sys corrupted message.... ****... what i did wrong...

As I already have wtitten, you usually get this meessage, when you are trying to install a 64bit textmode driver onto a 32bit OS.
Only other possibility: You have used a bad CD disk or burned with too much speed.
Do you really have an original XP x64 CD with original label from MS?
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 09:26 AM
HI Fernando,
yes it is a 64bits OS, as there is the amd64 folder, and it should be a original xp x64 disk, as I bought it in a shop there is box, manual key and everything, and that what is write on it. But as I am living in China, i can't be sure if it is a reel one. Hard to find the difference here.
Looks reel to me. For the disk I use imation disk and don't have other choice to burn it at 24x.
Maybe find a floppy drive and it will work better?
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 09:35 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 05:26 PM)

yes it is a 64bits OS, as there is the amd64 folder, and it should be a original xp x64 disk, as I bought it in a shop there is box, manual key and everything, and that what is write on it. But as I am living in China, i can't be sure if it is a reel one. Hard to find the difference here.

You may try to integrate 32bit drivers. Then you will see what happens.
Just download the 32bit version of my "NF4-4 non-AHCI WHQL Driverpack", unzip it and integrate the SATARAID + SATA_IDE folders.
Another option: Send me a list of the folders and files you see at the root of your original CD.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 09:40 AM
OK her is the list of the folder on the cd :
-AMD64
-i386
-support
Inside the AMD64 folder i have these folder :
- COMPDATA
- DRW
- LANG
- SYSTEM32
- WIN9XMIG
- WINNTUPG
I will try with the 32bits drivers... but if it work it means that it's not the x64 version of xp right?
Thanks
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 09:57 AM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 05:40 PM)

OK her is the list of the folder on the cd :
-AMD64
-i386
-support
The original version additionally has a directory named "DOCS".
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Inside the AMD64 folder i have these folder :
- COMPDATA
- DRW
- LANG
- SYSTEM32
- WIN9XMIG
- WINNTUPG
I will try with the 32bits drivers... but if it work it means that it's not the x64 version of xp right?
Yes, but I don't believe that. Everything really looks like XP x64.
In the root of the CD there should be a file named README.HTM. Open it with your browser. There you will see the OS name.
Why are you not able to burn with a lower speed than 24x? Take a tool like Nero.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 10:03 AM
There is only a file named Read1st.htm and the title is :
Preinstallation Notes for Microsoft Windows Server 2003 and Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
I am downloading nero to burn in another speed.
Thanks.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 11:15 AM
Installed Infrarecoder as Nero doesn't seems to work on Vista 64...:S
But burned the cd on 8x ( less i can't.. actually i chooce 4x, but it burned at 8x).
Still same error.
I have a question, maybe stupid, but do i have to add the driver by single mode or folder mode? Is it the same? And is it possible that is because I burn it by vista 64?
I have only 1 blank cd left, so i don't know what to do, maybe go tomorrow to buy a floppy drive. Is it maybe a better solution. And use the original cd of XP for installation.
Let me know.
Thanks.
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 07:15 PM)

Installed Infrarecoder as Nero doesn't seems to work on Vista 64...:S
Nero 8 is running fine with Vista x64.
QUOTE
But burned the cd on 8x ( less i can't.. actually i chooce 4x, but it burned at 8x).Still same error.
Always the exactly same error message?
QUOTE
I have a question, maybe stupid, but do i have to add the driver by single mode or folder mode? Is it the same?
You can do it with both methods, but I recommend to choose the "single driver" option, because otherwise you might get drivers integrated, which you don't want.
QUOTE
And is it possible that is because I burn it by vista 64?
No, it is no problem to create a bootable XP x64 CD while running Vista x64.
QUOTE
I have only 1 blank cd left, so i don't know what to do, maybe go tomorrow to buy a floppy drive. Is it maybe a better solution. And use the original cd of XP for installation.
If you have a mainboard with a LEGACY mode nForce4 RAID system (LEGACY mode = with the option to simultaneously create a SataRaid and a PataRaid array), you might get big problems, when you try to use the F6/floppy method. You have to load the content of the LEGACY driver folder (SATARAID and SATA_IDE will not work with F6) and you might get a BSOD at last reboot. Since your Vista bootloader will be broken by the XP x64 installation anyway, you will not be able to boot into any OS.
My suggestion:
Try to find out what is wrong with your XP x64 CD and the drivers you have used. If you have a friend or brother with a computer, let him try to create a bootable XP x64 CD with integrated nForce SataRaid drivers. This way you can check, if your system caused the issue.
Furthermore you should find out the exact chipset name of your mainboard and check your RAM sticks with memtest.
EDIT:
Another idea: Give me the HardwareID's of your "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller" and "NVIDIA RAID Controller". You will get it by opening the Device Manager, right cklicking onto the devices > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareID's".
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 12:55 PM
Hi Fernando,
thanks a lot for all your help.
I will try tomorrow from one computer of my office to make the bootable cd. And if it still doesn't work go back to the shop and ask for another one.
Here is the Hardware ID's :
- NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller :
ACPI\_NVRAIDBUS
*_NVRAIDBUS
- NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller :
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_05911558&REV_F3
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_05911558
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&CC_010485
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&CC_0104
- NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller :
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_05911558&REV_F3
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_05911558
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&CC_010485
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&CC_0104
Just find in the device manager a problem I didn't have before, seems to have a problem with the Mass Storage Controller in "Other devices", never see that before...:S Is it possible it makes the problem for the installation of XP?
Thanks again for all your time and help Fernando.
Simon
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 08:55 PM)

Here is the Hardware ID's :
- NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller :
ACPI\_NVRAIDBUS
*_NVRAIDBUS
- NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller :
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_05911558&REV_F3
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_05911558
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&CC_010485
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0054&CC_0104
- NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller :
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_05911558&REV_F3
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_05911558
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&CC_010485
PCI\VEN_10E&DEV_0055&CC_0104
That shows, that you have an nForce4 AMD chipset mainboard, but with different nForce S-ATA Controllers:
Your first listed nForce S-ATA Controller is managing the S-ATA device in SATA 1 mode, whereas the second one does it in SATA 2 mode.
Your RAID Controller seems to be enabled, but do you see any "NVIDIA Stripe" or "NVIDIA Mirror" device within the Device Manager?
Do you have a S-ATA connected CD/DVD burner?
How many hdd's do you see within the Disk Manager?
Which disks do you see within the Device Manager?
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Just find in the device manager a problem I didn't have before, seems to have a problem with the Mass Storage Controller in "Other devices", never see that before...:S Is it possible it makes the problem for the installation of XP?
No, I don't think so.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (Fernando 1 @ Sep 17 2008, 03:36 AM)

That shows, that you have an nForce4 AMD chipset mainboard, but with different nForce S-ATA Controllers:
Your first listed nForce S-ATA Controller is managing the S-ATA device in SATA 1 mode, whereas the second one does it in SATA 2 mode.
Do you have a S-ATA connected CD/DVD burner?
I really don't know, it is a laptop with the CD\DVD burner integrated.
Sorry I am really noob in computer....
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 09:41 PM)

QUOTE (Fernando 1 @ Sep 17 2008, 03:36 AM)

That shows, that you have an nForce4 AMD chipset mainboard, but with different nForce S-ATA Controllers:
Your first listed nForce S-ATA Controller is managing the S-ATA device in SATA 1 mode, whereas the second one does it in SATA 2 mode.
Do you have a S-ATA connected CD/DVD burner?
I really don't know, it is a laptop with the CD\DVD burner integrated.
Download a tool like Everest and let it show the hardware details.
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 01:57 PM
here is the details :
Property Value
Device ID IDE\CDROMOPTIARC_DVD_RW_AD-7530A_________________EX32____\570A738C00.0.0
Status 0x0180200a Started
Problem 0x00000000 (0)
Service cdrom
Capabilities 0x00000000
Config Flags 0x00000000
Class CDROM
Manufacturer (Standard CD-ROM drives)
Hardware IDs IDE\CdRomOptiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7530A_________________EX32____
IDE\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7530A_________________EX32____
IDE\CdRomOptiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7530A_________________
Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7530A_________________EX32____
GenCdRom
Compatible IDs GenCdRom
Class GUID {4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Location Channel 0, Target 0, Lun 0
Enumerator name IDE
Description CD-ROM Drive
Friendly name Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A ATA Device
Driver {4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
Physical Object Name \Device\Ide\IdeDeviceP0T0L0-0
UI number 0x00000000
Install State 0x00000000
Device Address 0x00000000
Device Configuration File cdrom.inf
InfPath cdrom.inf
InfSection cdrom_install
ProviderName Microsoft
DriverDateData 00 80 8C A3 C5 94 C6 01
DriverDate 6-21-2006
DriverVersion 6.0.6000.16386
MatchingDeviceId gencdrom
DriverDesc CD-ROM Drive
Class CDROM
ClassDesc @%SystemRoot%\System32\StorProp.dll,-17001
DVD/CD-ROM drives
IconPath %SystemRoot%\System32\imageres.dll,-30
Installer32 storprop.dll,DvdClassInstaller
EnumPropPages32 storprop.dll,DvdPropPageProvider
SilentInstall 1
NoInstallClass 1
UpperFilters GEARAspiWDM
Type Vendor Model Size Interface Temperature
DVD Writer Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A ATA ATAPI
DVD Writer Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A ATA Device IDE
Seems complicated and like I have 2 DVD Writer but I have only one....
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 02:03 PM
And here a screen from the information about the 2 drives as i can't make a copy/paste.
Click to view attachment
Fernando 1
Sep 16 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 09:57 PM)

Seems complicated and like I have 2 DVD Writer but I have only one....
I have no idea, if your DVD burner named "Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A" is S-ATA or IDE connected.
All these things doesn't really help.
What we have to know is the following:
1. Are you really running RAID or are your RAID Controllers just enabled within the BIOS without any function?
2. Why does Windows Setup the message §The file NVRDX.SYS is corrupted?
Have you tried to boot just off the clean XP x64 CD without lntegrating anything? If yes, does Windows Setup detect your hard disks?
Superxcm
Sep 16 2008, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (Fernando 1 @ Sep 17 2008, 04:10 AM)

QUOTE (Superxcm @ Sep 16 2008, 09:57 PM)

Seems complicated and like I have 2 DVD Writer but I have only one....
I have no idea, if your DVD burner named "Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A" is S-ATA or IDE connected.
All these things doesn't really help.
What we have to know is the following:
1. Are you really running RAID or are your RAID Controllers just enabled within the BIOS without any function?
2. Why does Windows Setup the message §The file NVRDX.SYS is corrupted?
Have you tried to boot just off the clean XP x64 CD without lntegrating anything? If yes, does Windows Setup detect your hard disks?
Yes I tried this first as i didn't know about the Sata driver. It says some problems with Atapi.
I never get any problems with the installation of Vista, formated my computer lot of times without any drivers. And all was fine.
For the 1 question, I don't know.
Sorry.
It seems, this computer is not normal!

EDIT: if my DVD\CD drive seems to be a possible problem, maye i can try to unplug my internal drive and install by a external drive ? Can it work by USB external drive?
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