The Making
makin cd atm, just copied files to XPCD directory
starting nLite
choosing the directory
thickin all options, except for slipstreaming a servicepack, coss I use xp pro with sp2 slipstreamed

Now at hotfix point, adding:
RVMUpdatepack1.2.2Lite
XPize uAE (v1.2)

At driver point:
The NVIDIA chipset drivers.
The Marvel network card drivers.
My sata driver (text mode).


At remove components point, I choose these dependencies:
Printers
Camera's

And these components I dont remove:
-Aplications
*Paint
-Drivers
*Ethernet (LAN)
*SCSI/RAID
-Hardware Support
*ALI IDE Bus Driver
*CMD IDE Bus Driver
*Firewire (1394) Support
*Intel IDE BUS Driver
*Logical Disk Manager
-Languages
*Dutch(Netherlands)
-Multimedia
*MIDI audio support
-Network
*Internet Explorer
*Internet Explorer Core
*Map Netowrk Drivers Wizard
-Operating System Options
*Disk and Profile Quota
*Extra Fonts
*File System Filter Manager
-Services
*DHCP Client

Then at advanced I choose these items not to be removed:
msconfig.exe
scrnsave.scr
ftp.exe
ping.exe
route.exe
nbtstat.exe
netstat.exe
net.exe
tftp.exe
ipconfig.exe
tracert.exe

Then at the remove box, I put the files listed in clints nLite.ini.

Then some tweaks, important ones:
do not parse autoexec.bat
dont page kernel
dont precache

Installing and Analizing
Made ISO, put disk.sys in my i386 (somehow nLite doesnt do that) and went installing.

There were some quite file not found errors during install, also in windows.

Internet Explorer didnt function properly, MSN wouldnt start. HELP OMFG WTF DONT U HAVE MSN CLINT? anyway , couldnt get defrag software to work and printerspool service was also gone. also some stuff I needed for webcam was gone.

So I went to the remove files list of clint's nlite.ini to check if I had to keep files.
Luckely I know wot most files do so I took about 25 files away needed for:

internet explorer
defrag software
msn
webcam
printers
network browsing on lanparties ;P

The Conclusion
Now after 2 installs I can run all of my tried programs. Everything seems ok with the printer service and imaging service, though I dont have a printer here, and I wont go through the trouble to get my webcam workin in virtual pc. So the next thing i will do is make one final iso for testing in virtual pc. Just to make sure. And then I willburn that iso, format and go live with that cd. ^_^

difference between his cleanup/pre-removal and my cleanup is.. about 80% wot I remove is the same has he removed.. but where I stopped with unknown files, he went on n just backupped them incase he needed them. I was gonna do the same thing but lil more carefull. with "last acces time-stamp" I was gonna check after 2 weeks of using programs n stuff, wot windows aint using. but he did it the hardway

my nLite brought own xp install down to 290mb, and with stuff of my own, to 224mb... this is with IE, with printers, with dhcp, with imaging stuff.

with my nLite but preremoval from clints ini, my xp install got 274mb.. then with a combined removal of my cleanups and his cleanups it went down to

200mb

quite a record since i use a LOT of programs (n games), and i need a LOT of dependencies.

in the attachments u see:
*my settings from nLite
*my regtweaks, to be used at T12 just like clints, with the $OEM folder way
*1 cleanup file, mine and clints merged there were no files I removed from the cleanup files exept for the ones that werent there when I had a fresh install, apearently nLite removed those.


ps: Oh yeah, feels good to be back in action ^^

Software I use

Programs
7-Zip (confirmed working)
Absolute mp3 splitter
Adobe Reader 7.0.1 (confirmed working)
AC3filter (confirmed working)
Alcohol 120% (confirmed working)
AMSN (confirmed working)
Azureus
CCleaner
CDBurnerXP Pro 3
Filezilla (confirmed working)
Filezilla FTP Server (confirmed working)
Firefox (confirmed working)
Hitman Pro (Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal,SpywareBlaster)
ImageMagick 6.1.1.3 Q16
Internet Explorer (confirmed working)
IrfanView
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Pro (confirmed working)
Microsoft Virtual PC
Microsoft Office PowerPoint Viewer 2003
Miranda
MIRC (confirmed working)
MSN Messenger 7.0 (confirmed working)
NetLimiter
Openoffice
Perfectdisk (confirmed working)
Prime95
Shareaza
SideWinder Game Voice Share
Skype
Teamspeak2 RC2
TightVNC (unstable)
Total Commander (confirmed working)
VideoLAN (confirmed working)
WinBar (confirmed working)
WinRAR (confirmed working)
Xfire (confirmed working)
XviD
Zoom Player (confirmed working)

Games
Command & Conquer Generals (confirmed working)
Diablo II (confirmed working)
Dungeon Siege 2 (confirmed working, played the whole beta out in 7 hours with mate)
Mu Online
Quake III Arena (confirmed working)
Tactical Ops
Unreal Tournament GOTY
Unreal Tournament 2004 (confirmed working)

Functions
Webcamming
Printing
Network browsing on lanparties ;P

Looks
NO theme service, but my own cool aston/xp mixed colour scheme^^
With this Wallpaper.
Colour scheme is attached

Currently at my parents house, not at home. Parents are gone for another 2 weeks, so I'm using that pc with a m8 here.. and I use that pc to test ^^ more programs will follow

Remove list in nLite

This is the list I remove WITHOUT the gone files, tommorow I explain why I leave some files, dont have more time now, spend 30min on this triple post

adsldp.dll
adsmsext.dll (gone)
adsnds.dll
adsnw.dll
asr_fmt.exe
asr_ldm.exe
asr_pfu.exe
asycfilt.dll
atkctrs.dll
atmfd.dll
atmlib.dll
autodisc.dll
avicap32.dll
blastcln.exe
browser.dll (gone) I wanna browse on the network when at LAN
browsewm.dll
c_037.nls (gone) like bold said, dont want webpages to look messed up
c_10000.nls (gone)
c_10079.nls (gone)
c_1026.nls (gone)
c_1250.nls (gone)
c_1251.nls (gone)
c_1253.nls (gone)
c_1254.nls (gone)
c_1255.nls (gone)
c_1256.nls (gone)
c_1257.nls (gone)
c_20127.nls (gone)
c_20261.nls (gone)
c_20866.nls (gone)
c_20905.nls (gone)
c_21866.nls (gone)
c_28591.nls (gone)
c_28592.nls (gone)
c_28593.nls (gone)
c_28605.nls (gone)
c_500.nls (gone)
c_850.nls (gone)
c_860.nls (gone)
c_861.nls (gone)
c_863.nls (gone)
c_865.nls (gone)
capesnpn.dll
ccfgnt.dll (gone) me keeping internet explorer, think it needs this
cdm.dll
certmgr.dll
certmgr.msc
clock.avi
cmdial32.dll
comres.dll
confmsp.dll
cryptext.dll (gone) I wanna use msn
cryptnet.dll (gone) I wanna use msn
csseqchk.dll
ddeml.dll (gone) nlite removes this
dfsshlex.dll (gone) nlite removes this
digest.dll
dpcdll.dll (gone) need dhcp sometimes
dskquota.dll (gone) I wanna use perfectdisk (defrag software)
dskquoui.dll (gone) I wanna use perfectdisk
dsprop.dll
dsquery.dll
esent97.dll
esentprf.dll
esentutl.exe
exts.dll
fc.exe
fde.dll
fsmgmt.msc
ftsrch.dll
g711codx.ax
gpresult.exe
gpupdate.exe
h323.tsp
h323msp.dll
hidphone.tsp
hlink.dll
htui.dll (gone) printer stuff
iac25_32.ax
iccvid.dll (gone) nlite removes this
icm32.dll (gone) for my webcam
icmui.dll (gone) for my webcam
iesetup.dll (gone) i use internet explorer sometimes
iexpress.exe
ifmon.dll (gone) nlite removes this allready
ipxmontr.dll (gone) I wanna keep ipx stuff for some games
ipxpromn.dll (gone)
ipxrip.dll (gone)
ipxrtmgr.dll (gone)
ipxwan.dll (gone)
ir32_32.dll
ir41_32.ax
ir41_qc.dll
ir41_qcx.dll
ir50_32.dll
ir50_qc.dll
ir50_qcx.dll
itircl.dll
itss.dll
iuengine.dll (gone) I keep internet explorer
ivfsrc.ax
iyuv_32.dll
jgaw400.dll
jgdw400.dll
jgmd400.dll
jgpl400.dll
jgsd400.dll
jgsh400.dll
kbdbene.dll
kbdcan.dll
kbddv.dll
kbdes.dll
kbdgae.dll
kbdgr1.dll
kbdit.dll
kbdit142.dll
kbdmlt48.dll
kbdsmsfi.dll
kbdsmsno.dll
kbdusl.dll
kbdusr.dll
localspl.dll (gone) printerstuff
mapistub.dll
mciavi32.dll
mcicda.dll
mciwave.dll
mfc40.dll
mfc40u.dll
modemui.dll (gone) nLite removes this allready
mpeg2data.ax
mpg2splt.ax
mpg4ds32.ax
mprddm.dll
mqbkup.exe
mqtgsvc.exe (gone) I keep this due to install errors (probably IE)
msaatext.dll
msapsspc.dll (gone) I keep this due to install errors (probably IE)
msctf.dll
msdart.dll
msftedit.dll
msimtf.dll (gone) I keep this due to install errors (probably IE)
msnsspc.dll
msutb.dll
msvbvm50.dll
msvcirt.dll
msvcp50.dll
msvcrt40.dll
msvidctl.dll
mswebdvd.dll
msxml.dll
msxml2.dll
msxml2r.dll
msxmlr.dll
mtstocom.exe
net1.exe
netsh.exe
npptools.dlll (gone) printerstuff
ntshrui.dll
oakley.dll
objsel.dll
odbcji32.dlll
odbcjt32.dlll
odbctrac.dlll
oddbse32.dlll
odexl32.dlll
odfox32.dlll
odpdx32.dlll
odtext32.dlll
oembios.bin
oembios.dat
oembios.sig
openfiles.exe
osuninst.exe
panmap.dll
pdh.dll
pentnt.exe
perfc009.dat
perfctrs.dll
perfd009.dat
perfh009.dat
perfi009.dat
perfmon.exe
perfproc.dlll (gone)
pifmgr.dll
powercfg.exe
prflbmsg.dlll (gone)
print.exel (gone)
printui.dlll (gone)
proquota.exel (gone)
psbase.dll
query.dll
rasauto.dll
rasauto.exe
raschap.dll
rasdial.exe
rasmans.dll
rasmontr.dll
rasphone.exe
rasppp.dll
rasrad.dll
rastapi.dll
rastls.dll
rend.dll
rsop.msc
rsopprov.exe
sdpblb.dll
set3.tmp
setupdll.dll
sfmapi.dlll (gone)
shmgrate.exe
shrpubw.exe
sisbkup.dll
spnpinst.exe
spoolss.dlll (gone)
spoolsv.exel (gone)
srvsvc.dlll (gone)
sti_ci.dlll (gone)
strmfilt.dll
sysocmgr.exel (gone)
t2embed.dll
tapi3.dlll (gone)
tapiui.dlll (gone)
telephon.cpl
termmgr.dll
tsbyuv.dll
twext.dll
unlodctr.exe
vbicodec.ax
vssapi.dll
wavemsp.dll
win32spl.dlll (gone)
winhelp.exe
winspool.exe (gone)
wkssvc.dll
wstdecod.dll
wstpager.ax
wstrenderer.ax
wupdmgr.exe
xmlprov.dll (gone)
xmlprovi.dll (gone)
xpob2res.dll (gone)

Troubleshooting

This is the post where I explain errors u might encounter and that I encounter

Very handy for newbies and for people who want to rethink about their ways of installing Windows;)

well more like Pro's with problems newbies should stick with nLite (no offence people, but this if u do this, ur bound to experience loads of errors)

and I think dirtwarrior wants to see the oemfolder and thats pretty much it... it isnt bigger.. I manually do my cleanup, dont have extra programs, dont use minlogon

hey fridge post $oem$ folder and last session ini Cool

lastsession.ini is in first post
oemfolder is in post 6
theme is in attachment 2, and those 2 links of image shack work

nice

this should become an useful thread



nice regtweaks u have there ... took me a while to go through all of it

this was mine 3 months ago, even larger ;P but nLite has tweaks now too, so I thinned it out..

ei fridge, u want ur printing service but in ur remove list theres spoolsv.exe & print.exe.. so u mean they arent needed for printing services?

all files beginning with ras (ras.dll, rasauto.dll etc..) are needed for DUN ryt?

modemui.dll, is this necesary for DUN?

i want to add ur list in my current removable list but i dont want to mess with my DUn... so can u post files that is needed for DUn thats in ur list? thnx

where i say GONE, it means clint removes it, but I dont remove it.. the file is gone from my list

DUN=?

DUN- Dial Up Networking

dial up, man I dont have experience with that.. thats such a long time ago :|

I supose all the ras stuff.. dont know about that other file though

Not bad Fridge, although skimming through your software applications list, I cannot see any programs that rely heavily on Windows components - indeed most of those programs are in my "AppsThatDontNeedToBeReinstalled" folder - several megabytes of well coded programs that run straight from the folder, without countless registry entries.

Gotta love 7-Zip too

James

Oh fridge I didnt just want to look at your $oem$ folder I wanted to download it and use it

Heh, dirt..you lazy warrior!

@ Fridge..if you use my regtweak you need to check it against the "GONE" files you are not removing so you are not removing any entries for them.

and I see that you are removing "Driver Cache"....is that wise?

You can also remove this from the regfile:


it's for WPI purposes, doesn't apply here.

Holy crap, that gave me an idea for my future cd's. All the apps I want preinstalled will be ones that I dump in the $OEM$\$Progs folder, and this way I'll only have to script making the shortcuts in my startmenu... which will keep my reg mostly clean.

Until I run the apps and they create whatever reg files they absolutely need. But still, this is easier than switches and crap.

Yes, my WPI setup looks exactly like that...

I just copy over the needed files, shortcuts and a few regentries....it involves some preparation initially but is well worth the time invested

thats help me..thxx

I always do.

Well, when installing new driver dependent stuff..like Daemon tools and such...don't you get asked for XP disc?

Hey Fridge-RaideR.

Nice work.

I'm gonna give your method a try this weekend when I get some time - (yea right)

Seems a cook way to do things.

Thanks Fridge-RaideR!

That is THE POST
gonna try it in few days...

hmm...maybe i'll post my own experience with optimal (not extreme) settings for wide range users and computers

thank fridge will be testing it for what i need soon
reg tweak mostly apply to your tastes, but i will be making it work for me

well ive gotten far so far,
had to edit some files, thats for sure

since i wanted to keep luna theme
had my windows directory as OS
had my documents and settings as USERS

kept wmp 9
added ryanvm

used xp home, so i could rid myself of oembios.* files

and had my own drivers,
after cleanup, im like 191MB \OS

Fridge, I think you should just remove those "clint" referenses...it confuses ppl I think....only generates more questions.

"my regtweaks, to be used at T12 just like clints, with the $OEM folder way" ...for example.
..there was a guy asked what clints is...hehe!

just keep my name out of it...only confusing for the poor newcomers with "clint this" and "clints that"...wasnt ment to be used like this anyway..

how would i go about importing that stuff to the registry?

how would i know it worked, i tried
REGEDIT /S remove stuff.reg
but it didn't seem to do anything

does this have to be done this way only through cmdlines.txt?
do i have to point to cmdlines.txt in another file?

If you want to stop services, not just disabling them using the Registry method
create a new command file and use this :

net stop "Automatic Updates"
net stop "Computer Browser"
net stop "Distributed Link Tracking Client"
net stop "Help and Support"
net stop "Server""
net stop "System Event Notification"
net stop "System Restore Service"
net stop "Task Scheduler"
net stop "TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper"
net stop "Themes"
net stop "Upload Manager"
net stop "WebClient"
net stop "Windows Time"
net stop "Workstation"
net stop "System Event Notification"
net stop "COM+ Event System"
net stop "Network Location Awareness (NLA)"
net stop "Remote Access Auto Connection Manager"
net stop "SSDP Discovery Service"
etc

that way you can remove files related to those services without rebooting, I think

-not tested yet if it works during windows installation phase

i found my errror, it wasn't the space
i made a second file with only the tweaks i needed,
and cause of this, and the fact i was without sleep for too long, as i still am

forgot the registry file line of the file

Click to view attachmentCan somone check this out for me and tell me if this is right. I made it myself and really not that good. All help will be apreciated

dirtwarrior, you've made a spelling mistake in cleanuo.cmd which it should be cleanup.cmd

As for cmdlines.txt

You typed:


It should be:


Where is the RunOnceEx.cmd file?

Thanks I am a slow learner but I make up for it by trying hard
ok wrere should I put the runonce.ex?


question: what kind of stuff goes into runonce?
is inf right?

just wnna give u some credit here n there but allrighty, will make everything look like I did it will remake start post tommorow, it now looks like a testing cleanup post, it will be an how to make a nLite with cleanup



then ofcourse u have to keep net.exe cause otherwise u cant do that

fridge
see my folder I posted? I made corrections to it already. Is something supposed to go in runonce? If so what and where. Sorry for dum questions but I am trying to teach myself

fridge, what are these files for?

any movers or deleters with this fridge or gdogg

oh Cybertronic the runonce commands what are they and where should they go
can someone look at this and see if it will work?

LS
@ECHO off
cmdow @ /HID
@echo off

SET KEY=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx

REG ADD %KEY% /V TITLE /D "Installing Applications" /f

REG ADD %KEY%\001 /VE /D "Cleaning Up: Moving files" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\001 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\cleanup.bat.cmd" /f

REG ADD %KEY%\002 /VE /D "Cleaning Up: Deleteting Absolete Folders" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\002 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\delete.directory.cmd" /f

REG ADD %KEY%\003 /VE /D "Cleaning Up: Finishing" /f

I just use cmdlines.txt and in there I call regtweaks.reg. and my cleanupfile.. I just launch it manually



dont know exactly...codepages for various fonts and stuff, anyway some websites get messed up if u delete them

If I remove c_850.nls, it makes my Windows unbootable as it says this file is missing , it's fine without the removal of the file

yeh i must agree about those codepage files

3dgameman.com was the frist site to mess up when i removed some of those in the past

but, thanks fridge-raider, ive gotten pretty close to what im looking for, great work, i'd also like to thank nuhi, jeremy and clint

All of this was done a long time ago by others. http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=80511

Sir Isaac Newton's Phrase, "Standing on the shoulders of giants", springs to mind.

ive encountered i like bit of a problem,
i did the cleanup and the tweaks, and nlite just as you have, (except kept a bit more)

now when testing, i cannot get outpost pro firewall nor sygate firewall nor any other one i downloaded to work

im gonna try without the tweaks, and cleanup, to see if this helps at all

any ideas?

So..?

I do not think this is that well done but still offers a lot more than those "giants" did..., a guided setup that includes more than just "this you can delete and this not".

..phuii, this "sandbox" mentality is taking its toll...

The point being that that it is not as original as people, on this forum, would have you believe. I was once a devotee of this forum (nLite), but no longer. Everytime I used nLite it went wrong but, since using the methods of the master - http://www.bold-fortune.com/forums/index.php?showforum=13

I've had a perfectly functioning machine. You lot need to stop congratulating yourselves so much - the wheel was invented a long time ago...but not by you.

"the master"..that is almost as scary as the sometimes fanatic Nlite fans here..

Windows was actually invented by a bunch of much more clever engineers than we sorry a** bunch here..(and other forums).
We are merely just tearing it apart....the credit goes to BG himself....

At last... I've found a level headed "nLiter"

That word, "master", never fails to draw someone in. However I'm extremely bored now, and I have other, much more interesting, things to do...such as clean the toilet.

Goodbye...for now!

I had to look that word up, Swedish and all..

Level headed = Characteristically self-composed and sensible...well I say.., thats the nicest someone said to me in a long time..

red_house, i dont got that much time on my hands

but this thread help lots of users, quickly, no need to put it down

and nlite is great, fast, easy and simple

and i havn't seen anyone congrate themselves yet,

flame on , flame on

gdogg - I did say"Goodbye...for now!", didn't I?

I shall decide when, or even, if,there shall be a next stage to this exchange. You really should try to understand the psychology of the situation!

Once more. Goodbye...for now?

I've just tried this, my overall Windows size is 240MB with WMP10, is this normal? From the thread starter his 200MB file size doesn't have WMP10

I came across 2 .dll errors during the installation process, has anyone had this whilst trying this out?