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DigeratiPrime
Please vote on what Anti-Virus software you use or reccomend to others.

If you post please say why you prefer that software over another if possible. And If you vote 'other' please post what you use!

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Martin L
i've just bought my NOD32 license smile.gif i think its the best out there smile.gif
svasutin
Lately I've been recommending ZoneAlarms Internet Security Suite. It appears the Computer Associates (CA) and CheckPoint/Zone Labs are sharing AV and the firewall between the two. For novice users, I think ZA has the upper hand since everything is though one icon and interface, whereas CA uses 3 different icons and interfaces.
I suppose after both of those, would be Trend Micro.
For me personally, I use none, but when in doubt, I use f-secure f-force and trendmicro's sysclean to check.
Jeremy
NOD32
KenanBalamir
Trend Micro PC-Cillin or NOD32
Char_0079
I use SAV 10. I haven't had any problems with it, plus it was free my University.
ripken204
nod32, uses little resources and does the job very well
DL.
I don't use any AV, but I sometimes run some free online scanner.

If you are careful with what and from where you download and use some free web-based email with built-in antivirus you should be quite safe. Also make sure your OS is fully updated at all times.

Spyware/adware/malware and similar are a lot more common than viruses these days.


Symantec AV is much too demanding and bloated, I will probably try NOD32 some time.
alsiladka
smile.gif I do not run any Anti - Virus software!

Do not have to blink.gif

From the time SP2 has come out , my comp has not been infected with Spyware nor Malware nor Virus even once.

All that i have on my comp is Windows Defender , which gives me background protection from start up , services and suchthings , and occassional scans from Spybot and Ad-aware.

Also , sometimes , do scan online when have nothing to do.

The results also support my way of security. NO Adware or spyware or malware or virus since SP2's release.

BTW , i use Opera for surfing with occasional help from IE.


Always wanted to ask you all , ever seen a virus attack really happen? has you anti-virus saved you from any virus attack actually? or you have it just to be secure?
ripken204
well i have to reclarify my statement, i reinstalled windows last week and i have not installed any security programs at all and i may not. i have been using nod32 but like said above, when was the last time u ever got a virus? the last time i got one was when i dloaded something stupid.
keytotime
I have not used an Anti-Virus Program in over 4 years. For me they are just memory hogs and don't really work.
Macstorm
Sophos Anti-Virus Small Business Edition 4.03 thumbup.gif

I'd never change it with another!
jago_lfn
I havent even seen a virus since back in the day when kazaa was big before the riaa. Folks on the network at work let all kinds of trash loose from there.
_U_U_R_
kaspersky pro
Press any key
Going back to the past, I used to use a FREE version of Norton. It wasn't well known but they had a free version for download. Then I used InoculateIt which was a free version of some Aust . product I think. They scraped the free version, so I switched to AVG.

I am happy with AVG + email scanner in/out and now auto updates in the FREE version. But I am hearing good things about NOD32 and somewhere that MS use it on their campus.

I do not believe that you should have to pay to protect the operating system; that's a defect; no matter that some third party is attacking your business - you should protect your users free.

So, Microsoft, buy NOD32 and give it to me free with Vista. And pigs might fly again! newwink.gif
n7Epsilon
NOD32
WolfX2
Mcaffee, now i have to go update the security guide since they old antivirus one was deleted, ah well tongue.gif
but does deepfreeze count as an antivirus?
flupke
Kaspersky offers the best protection, NOD32 uses the less recources and AntiVir is the best free one. Symantec Norton is really a resource-eater, it was preinstallen on my PC but not for long. I have Kaspersky installed now but most of the time it's not loaded. It bothers me to much with tasks and I almost never get virusses. Like someone already said: Windows XP SP2 is secure enough, I'm behind a router and e-mails are always scanned before they reach your PC.
noguru
I use AVG free, but I can't really recommend it. It's very light and very cheap (free). But as far as you should believe in AV software tests it doesn't come out very good anymore. This used to be better before!

Antivir seems to be a better candidate when you look at freebies, but latest version 7 still has problems. At least a lot with me and visiting their support forum showed that I am not alone.

But I haven't seen a virus or any malware in years just like many here. And I am still on Win98se!

Afterall, it's mostly behaviour that is secure or not.
Having the best AV software will just make you careless biggrin.gif
Jeremy
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ZDM/story?id=1487408
Thought I would share this with everyone... again.
DigeratiPrime
^ broken link
Jeremy
QUOTE (DigeratiPrime @ Mar 31 2006, 10:40 PM) *
^ broken link

Then your ISP must be having problems because it works fine.
DigeratiPrime
my isp is optimum online, i dont think its them:
At0mic
I get that error as well
Zxian
Makes three of us with the broken link.

By the way - I recommend NOD32. All of the good reasons, and very very few of the bad.
Stead
link doesn't work here either...
tal ormanda
Zone Alarm Security Suite
Jeremy
Ah, they got rid of the article, bastards. it worked 2 days ago. I should have saved it. Oh well.
WolfX2
i'm sure i would like nod32 of they sold it anywhere in alberta confused.gif *sigh*
rotjong
QUOTE (Press any key @ Mar 28 2006, 06:55 PM) *
Then I used InoculateIt which was a free version of some Aust . product I think. They scraped the free version, so I switched to AVG.

Yes, InoculateIT was a free release from Computer Associates. They killed it off when they released the very affordable [but not free] eTrust EZ Antivirus.
QUOTE (Press any key @ Mar 28 2006, 06:55 PM) *
I do not believe that you should have to pay to protect the operating system; that's a defect; no matter that some third party is attacking your business - you should protect your users free.

So, Microsoft, buy NOD32 and give it to me free with Vista. And pigs might fly again! newwink.gif

I agree in that one shouldn't require a third-party AV to protect an OS. However, this is one of those in an ideal world deals for me. As it stands we don't live in one and I doubt we ever will. The last thing in the world I'd want is MS to acquire Eset or just about any other AV company. God help us if they picked Symantec... can you imagine the bloated pile of dung they'd release? I have enough issues with MS' security problems w/o depending on them for an AV product as well. I foresee an MS AV product being like Symantec with their seemingly endless discoveries of flaws in their security and antivirus products. So very ironic.

After enough years experimenting with a ton of different AVs I've settled on using Eset NOD32 for my day-to-day AV. For me it has the best of everything I need and doesn't bog down my system. It might not be empirically ranked as the number 1 AV product but it's close enough.

rotjong
Coco
I'm like a few others here, I don't use Anti-vitus. Once a year or so I tend think I may have done somehting stupid and got a virus and I use something like housecall. Which almost always turns up nothing, and then I realize I just misconfigured an app. smile.gif

As long as you pay attention to what you are doing there really isn't much call for anti virus, it's just a bloated mess that slows a computer down. I've had more problems with nortons antivirus solutions then I've ever had with a virus.

Of course, not everyone pays close attention or knows how to pay close attention. I install AVG on computers for friends and family that arn't as computer savy.
rotjong
QUOTE (Coco @ Apr 3 2006, 05:48 AM) *
I'm like a few others here, I don't use Anti-vitus. Once a year or so I tend think I may have done somehting stupid and got a virus and I use something like housecall. Which almost always turns up nothing, and then I realize I just misconfigured an app. smile.gif

As long as you pay attention to what you are doing there really isn't much call for anti virus, it's just a bloated mess that slows a computer down. I've had more problems with nortons antivirus solutions then I've ever had with a virus.


I was like you for many years. I experimented with different AVs on a test computer I had but I never ran one on my main system. I'd compare them to see what AV caught what virus, etc. Personally, I'd prefer to still not run one but alas I decided that statisically speaking I'm about due to get hit by something. I use common sense and I'm always careful but sometimes that's not enough. I didn't run a real-time AV until probably last year. So figure I lasted 15 yrs w/o getting hit by a virus. I figure I might as well just add that one extra line of defense and NOD32 doesn't really use many resources. I actually can't tell the difference on my system between when it's running or when it's not.

rotjong
Indyan
I am using Kaspersky. It wins in almost very AV shootout.
Jeremy
QUOTE (Coco @ Apr 3 2006, 01:48 AM) *
there really isn't much call for anti virus, it's just a bloated mess that slows a computer down.

You can't just be so prejudiced towards AVs in general, though. Norton is bloated and slows down PCs that have less than 1GB of RAM. NOD32 and Kaspersky are awesome. Like I've said before, the fact that an AV is free / open source or takes up 50 KBs of memory aren't factors for a proper evaluation of it to be based on. And yes, most of us have AV for that sense of security, but it's just a good thing to have incase you ever download a RAR file, for example, from Shareaza or whatever and want to make sure it is safe to open. You may have your ports blocked and router and software firewall, but if you intentionally download a file that potentially contains a virus, a router won't do anything and a software firewall will only prevent outbound traffic for the virus. With something like NOD32 and Kaspersky, you can just disable the GUI from start-up and have the Service itself running in the background, so you can then manually open the GUI and update, then run that when you feel like it. When you're done, you can shut it down and be on your way. How much better can it get?
I tend not to trust most freeware anti-virus programs because think about what goes on at the companies of these programs. For Symantec, there are thousands of people just sitting there writing up innoculations for these viruses. At one point Symantec laid off ~1900 employees. If you're laying off that many people, obviously you've got thousands more to sustain that level of productivity. See, Symantec shares the innoculations with other companies, Kaspersky for example. It's a business strategy.
Now, with open source, you've got one guy from this country, another guy from that country, a few here and a few there, and obviously they aren't going to have nearly as much work done as a major corporation.
You basically have to see behind the scenes in a sense, to further determine which AV is best to use. For me, personally, the top 3 are:
Symantec AntiVirus Corporate 10 (not the Norton family)
Kaspersky
NOD32
Jeremy
Just switched back to Kaspersky.
noguru
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I tend not to trust most freeware anti-virus programs because think about what goes on at the companies of these programs. For Symantec, there are thousands of people just sitting there writing up innoculations for these viruses. At one point Symantec laid off ~1900 employees. If you're laying off that many people, obviously you've got thousands more to sustain that level of productivity. See, Symantec shares the innoculations with other companies, Kaspersky for example. It's a business strategy.
Now, with open source, you've got one guy from this country, another guy from that country, a few here and a few there, and obviously they aren't going to have nearly as much work done as a major corporation.


But the free available AV's that I know of are not open source.
They are trimmed versions of commercial products without any support offered. But they use the same av-definitions like their commercial counterfits, made by the same people. Not a guy here and there (when they have time!).

That paid software has it benefits is something I won't deny. If it did not it would probably not exist.
Jeremy
QUOTE (noguru @ Apr 8 2006, 09:42 PM) *
But the free available AV's that I know of are not open source.
They are trimmed versions of commercial products without any support offered. But they use the same av-definitions like their commercial counterfits, made by the same people. Not a guy here and there (when they have time!).
That paid software has it benefits is something I won't deny. If it did not it would probably not exist.

Tell me something I don't know. tongue.gif

Anyway, a guy I work with used to write articles for Nvidia News and he knows his s*** when it comes to hardware, especially graphics cards and processors, chipsets, mobos. Anyway, just to hype his enormous amount of knowledge. He and another coworker spent a slow day testing anti-virus products on a "clogged sewer" of a machine and found that Symantec, McAfee and AVG (the more mainstream ones) were the best, in that, each found a few that another missed. That's not to say it's a not a very good product, it just boils down to who writes up the innoculation first. I think that if you use anything from Symantec, McAfee, Kaspersky, NOD32, AVG... you'll do fine.
Wesmosis
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I think that if you use anything from Symantec, McAfee, Kaspersky, NOD32, AVG... you'll do fine.

Yeah that's the philosphy which I reached after a loooooooong debates and controversy about what's the best AV
I'm using NOD32 at the moment, but I'm convinced of that each AV that he will do his job as meant to be
At0mic
Have any of you actually tried all or most of these Antivirus products to give a definitive answer as to which ones are the best? If not I'll download every one to see which is best. At the moment I use Sophos but it uses 35Mb ram as a service and another 4Mb for its auto update service and seems to be slow. I want to change it for something else.
Jeremy
Atomic, I know what Norton is like, I've tried McAfee, Symantec, Kasp, NOD32, Avast, BitDefender, AVG, etc. I also work in a tech shop where people have all sorts of AV's installed. To me, the memory usage is a small factor when considering which AV to use, because it's about how effectively it can be set up to protect you. We install AVG Free Edition for people at the tech shop, but we have Kaspersky 6 on all of our PCs, whereas we also had AVG. Once we scanned with Kaspersky, 6 viruses were found on the network where AVG was sitting for over a year. See, an AV is a lot like a registry cleaner in that, they will all find some infections that others will miss.
To me, an AV shouldn't have a pop-up blocker, spam filter or a firewall. That what AdMuncher and Outpost are for. See, I wouldn't use BitDefender because it has so many processes running, much like Norton, plus it has the firewall and etc. Kaspersky and NOD32 however, have the web filter, the e-mail filter, the file system monitor and the on-demand scanner, and they both take up relatively the same amount of memory. Less than 20MBs when Idle I do believe.
McAfee is a bit heavy, but their definitions are very good. I haven't been able to install Symantec on my system for some reason, so unfortunately, I am unable to give an opinion on it.
Conclusion: McAfee, Symantec, Kaspersky, NOD32. Those 4 are the best IMHO.
coltm4carbine
Kaspersky or McAfee. Difficult choice.

McAfee haven't let any viruses into my desktop since I had it and Kaspersky has caught over 6 viruses which symantec/norton missed.

Norton was preinstalled on my laptop, but i uninstalled it within 2 days because it caused too much trouble [Performance, BSoD, viruses]. lol

My cousin uses Nod32 but i haven't tried it myself but from what I heard it's the fastest scanner there is.

Avast didn't catch anything on my Windows 98 so i ditched it and swapped it with AVG free.
Jeremy
I tend to think that faster scanners aren't scanning as thoroughly as ones like Kaspersky which scan all filetypes. In the future I hope it only scans files that can be infected. HTML, GIF, etc cannot be infected (as of yet, anyway) so no use scanning those. But, then again, a file could be masked as a .txt file and be an .exe so I guess there's a point to it. We scan all our customers' PCs with Kasp 6 but install AVG Free, even though Kasp found 6 viruses that AVG missed. Having to clean viruses off half a dozen PCs really gets you confident about an anti-virus program quickly. Also, Kaspersky has a great GUI! thumbup.gif
N1K
Nod32 all the way newwink.gif
Jeremy
I feel like taking a day at the shop next week to just compare Anti-virus programs.
gunsmokingman
I use AVG free I like it, it automatic update works well, I have not caught any viruses with this.
Jeremy
QUOTE (gunsmokingman @ Apr 20 2006, 08:19 PM) *
I use AVG free I like it, it automatic update works well, I have not caught any viruses with this.

QUOTE (Jeremy @ Apr 14 2006, 11:33 AM) *
We install AVG Free Edition for people at the tech shop, but we have Kaspersky 6 on all of our PCs, whereas we also had AVG. Once we scanned with Kaspersky, 6 viruses were found on the network where AVG was sitting for over a year.

AVG's GUI could be better, and if an anti-virus didn't automatically update, I doubt many would use it. tongue.gif
gunsmokingman
QUOTE (Jeremy @ Apr 21 2006, 02:18 AM) *
QUOTE (gunsmokingman @ Apr 20 2006, 08:19 PM) *

I use AVG free I like it, it automatic update works well, I have not caught any viruses with this.

QUOTE (Jeremy @ Apr 14 2006, 11:33 AM) *
We install AVG Free Edition for people at the tech shop, but we have Kaspersky 6 on all of our PCs, whereas we also had AVG. Once we scanned with Kaspersky, 6 viruses were found on the network where AVG was sitting for over a year.

AVG's GUI could be better, and if an anti-virus didn't automatically update, I doubt many would use it. tongue.gif

Truthfully the GUI does not matter, I would rather have some thing that works well and look crappy, then some thing that looks great and runs crappy.
Jeremy
So you're saying you think Kaspersky is crappy and AVG is awesome? Yeah, the results at the tech shop sure do justify that assumption.










To reference the options in #10:
iChecker and iSwift
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During the first anti-virus scan of the object and its contents for an infected code, the scan sum and some other service parameters of the object are counted, fixed and saved. These parameters define the state of the object by the moment of scan completion.
The data received during the scan (CRC object, service parameters, date of the first scan) are registered in the object stream (if the object is located on the drive with NTFS file system) and in internal database (if the object is located on the drive with FAT32/NTFS file system).
During the next anti-virus scan of the object the object data (CRC and service parameters) are compared with the data saved in the stream (if it exists). If there is no stream and data do not coincide, the parameters saved in the data base are scanned. If the data coincide, the object is not scanned.

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gunsmokingman
I did not mention nothing, all I said was and
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Truthfully the GUI does not matter, I would rather have some thing that works well and look crappy, then some thing that looks great and runs crappy.
I did not mention no other AV, being dislexic can you point out where I said any thing like that. I assume nothing you have made all the assumtions.
QUOTE
So you're saying you think Kaspersky is crappy and AVG is awesome? Yeah, the results at the tech shop sure do justify that assumption.

Rember the more prettier a app is the more resources it will use, any coder will tell you that.
Gouki
QUOTE (gunsmokingman @ Apr 21 2006, 06:00 AM) *
Rember the more prettier a app is the more resources it will use, any coder will tell you that.


AMEN brother!

Performance over eye candy! smile.gif
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