Hey,

Gurgelmeyer’s Unofficial Windows 2000 SP5 Build 5.1.2195 has been released!

Download it here:

http://www.war59312.com/archives/2006/04/2...6th_2006_build/

Major Geeks Mirror Now Online:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Microsoft_Window...l_SP_d4817.html

Softpedia Mirror Now Online:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enh...icial-SP5.shtml

Enjoy,

Will

is there a torrent ??? or shall i seed one ??? on some (thats meand i havent chosen one yet), torrent site....

I'll be brief (I'm on a very slow line right now, because my ISP wants me to pay the same bill twice... long story, don't worry )

USP 5.1.2195.21 (21 is the build number) contains:


- ~40-50 new non-security updates not available from WU. I think I got them all now, but I keep saying that don't I

- All the security updates that were available on WU on 2006-04-16 for Windows 2000 and for the Windows 2000 versions of the built-in or the USP provided components.

- Fixes a BUG which caused setup from DOS to fail

- Fixes a BUG which might cause USP setup to take longer than it should

- Adds the USP version and build date to the System Properties


Next: USP 5.2 ! When? Donno. I definately need my DSL....

Best regards,
Gurgelmeyer

@Gurgelmeyer
i think you must build a something like roll-up version so you didn't have to upload a BIG files only if you update some
or maybe think about byte patcher that can compare byte between a two big files and then you upload the patcher version

me, still waiting for USP 5.5 Extreme

Me too

I just want WMP9 added in. (Or a seperate addon would work too!)
Thanks for all the hard work though, it is appreciated.

All right, thanks.

i'd just like to say it's working great! applied it to a vanilla win2k, used nlite to get it down to a 135mb iso, and so far it's done everything i've asked of it. wonderful job.

i don't think a byte pacher will do the trick.... because its often far from acurate.
a dif file though COULD perhaps help A litle bit though i think the work wouldn't be worth the few extra megs saved...

@gurgle, someone has picked up a nice project to create a 2k-ize patcher for win2k... screenshots look promising...

another thing involes that BTS-driver packs now supports creating a fully-slipstreamd driver-base...
(drivers.cab dosnet.inf etc), so my question for you is, witch types of drivers do you prefer build in windows and witch you want out (for now)

i myself would thing that, it would be best to start with basics, Chipset, VGA Sound LAN PCMCIA and SATA ... and fully removing printer + scanner drivers... do you agrea?

you mean me? lol

i hope gurgelmeyer will finish up usp 5.5 extreme in next 3 months so i can recheck the pack in that version (i have checked on usp 5.1 and it look close enough to stable, except the skinning engine)

I do agree that the download size is a problem. One thought is to release a crosslinked ISO 9660 - those are easy to create, and at least you would get "all" USP versions in one download - more value for money.

Another thought on the matter is, that most ppl probably use the USP's on 2K Pro, and don't care about the server variants. And a Pro-only variant of each USP will definately be smaller.

Interesting



I quite agree - SATA is however more important than PCMCIA I believe. Chipsets, SATA, Video (incl monitors), LAN 10/100/1000, Audio (full AC97 at least). Donno about printers and scanners yet

/G

I find that interesting too. Recently I started hacking my system files to put WinXP icons in them. I discovered that lots of icons are old though, so got to fixing them up by merging certain XP ones with others. I'd really love prettier icons, so post a link to your project. I can also help make a few icons too if needed, since I've eliminated most ugly ones from Explorer.exe and Shell32.dll already.

ill start right on theme this weekend -

thank god my isp has changed bandwith limits for me from 10 to 24gb per month, (helpfull for these tasks)...

Major Geeks Mirror Now Online:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Microsoft_Window...l_SP_d4817.html

Also, what about USP-5.02.2195.16-GURGELS-OWN.ZIP ? Did you want me to post this as well? I see at least one person wants it.

please PM me for that

i was wondering, as i begin the dial-up download of usp 5.1.2195, if it were possible to put the extras into a separate service pack.

Such things are not unknown elsewhere. OS/2 delivers the drivers in a separate service stream to the base OS. The second service pack could be multi-platform thing, eg Win2k / xp / ???.


W

doesnt work that way...

even though it could it would make more trouble for end users.

for example, if we would have packs a b and c
and pack a and c need file editiong of file x but b nead a complete update of file x than wicht of those packs should we change file x first, and what happends when the end user doesn't install a b and c in Our Prefered (and calulated) order.

this is probebly the biggest problem with creating windows service packs...
and recomanded thing to do is as a friend to download it on broadband and burn you a cdrom with it...


btw most drivers and patches are OS-specific, though most aplications work on both 2 and XP drivers and sucht wil not, as the base code and kernel has taken quite a lot of change.
and a rumour goes, in SP3 comming Q4 of this year (or so it should). thing regarding drivers wil change in full,

so that is imposible?

how about something such as "roll-up" or "post update" like M$ done with "update roll-up sp4"?is it impossible too?

really i don't have friends that use broadband connection near (they all in different city and some of them different island) i use a small shared 128kbps connection here and the max download speed is only 10-15kb/s so download USP can take up to 4-6 days or maybe a full 2 days

and
i have seen other team that work on "AutoPacther 2K" project, they seem already solved that problem, they have a patch every month that only 10-20 mb and the full patch (desember 2005) is the base (huge, ~500mb)

i have read some official news, it will release on 2007 just a couple month before vista release

thanks

I really prefer to eliminate as many problems as possible in advance, rather than making a mess of updates like good old MS have done. I'm sure you get my point Convenience is one of the main purposes of USP's



242971184 bytes / (10240 bytes/second) / 3600 seconds/hour = 6 hours 35 minutes. Try downloading SP3 with 5.5 kb/sec - now those were the days....

/G

(PS - Don't worry - I already have an idea on "smart compression" - I need to run some tests)

you mean extract all *.??_ files, recompress as a solid 7z archive, then reconstruct the *.??_ files after download? that'd save 27 MB from the download: (*.??_) = 102 MB, and all those files extracted and 7z'ed = 75 MB.

you could also extract the two driver.cab files (42 MB and 30 MB) and combine them to one 7z archive (34 MB) to save another 38 MB. that's 65 MB saved overall.

of course the price of this is sitting through the re-compression on the user's side. it'd take around 10 minutes on a current system. i don't think that's a huge price though - how often do people apply service packs? there'd always be the option to leave the reconstructed version on the hard drive so it only has to be done once. it could be worth it as another download option at least. w2ksp51.exe as 144 MB vs 209 MB?

In theory a lot like that. My thought is, that each and every file should be stored only once - no matter how often it appears, no matter under which names, no matter how many different ways it is compressed, no matter if it's (recursively) embedded in MSI streams or other cabinets. It's perfectly simple - it could even be expanded to handle more than just the MSCF formats. The only difference to the end user would be that (s)he would have to download an EXE file instead of a ZIP file.

Best regards
Gurgelmeyer

or maybe we could ask someone in AutoPacther 2K project how they did it

please don't mind, this only a "cruel" joke

great work gurgelmeyer!

i think this release and 5.2 will be the best versions (dont need extreme edition at all ...)

Hi Gurgelmeyer. sorry I wasnt able to follow up my old topic about the FP2k KB838018 hotfix. I was busy in the other side of the MSFN forums site.

wonder if the KB139071 OLE automation hotfix is or will be included in your unofficial Win2k SP5 pack.
Files are build 4528; replaces the previous 4526 build from KB886765. MS KB article 139071:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/139071

I have this Win2k hotfix. someone sent it to me. let me know if you need it.

btw. G from around next week or so i got myself a (powerhouse)
> (dualcore 1,8ghz cpu) with 2gb of ram...
so if for any reason you nead any cpu-time for building it or compressing it.. just ask...

It is included in the 5.1.2195.21 release.



That is not included - yes, I need it

/G

PS - @-I- - Cool - I might need some compression stats later on

I have sent the KB139071 win2k hotfix to MDGx and it's mentioned on his web site. you can get it here directly:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/2K139071.EXE

I havent been able to use my email for several days since my brother and I paid for a high speed DSL internet connection last week.

just send me a PM and we'll set something up (havn't got the darn thing yet though, (thay said i should expact it this week),

by the way: as soon as i have in ill add the specs to a siggy (with a link to som pick LOL (benchmark-scores included ofcaurse)

My thanks to Gurgelmeyer for this great contribution.

I did notice that update KB832414 for MSXML 2.5 (msxml.dll 8.0.7002.0) is not included.

I am not sure how useful or necessary this update is if later versions of MSXML are also installed. Nor am I certain how this update plays together with current updates of Internet Expolorer, or if it has somehow been made obsolete.

KB832414 has been totally changed from its original appearance. It no longer has a download link to this update but points on to KB887606 which only covers later versions of MSXML.

Anyway, the download link for this update can still be found at MDGx's site on the page for Internet Explorer.

P.S. Edited addition (made after the following post by -I-):
I just noticed that my laptop at work, which has XPSP2 installed by IT people, and where I do not have admin rights, also has the updated msxml.dll file among others. So I guess that at least it probably is not harmful.

if im not mistaken its an outdated patch. (and outdated xml version, SP5 should use a newer version i believe,

But to be sure id have to check...

The KB832414 update for MSXML 2.5 is obsolete, Inki and XML 2.5 is buggy. Anyway, KB832414 is replaced by KB887606. Upgrade to MSXML 2.6 which fixes problems with XML 2.5 and then apply the KB887606 update for XML 2.6.

MSXML.DLL version 8.0.7002 is included in Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003 SP1.

Here's the Microsoft Download Center link to MSXML 2.5 KB832414 hotfix (which still works):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

Thank you for your information on KB832414.

The question I had in mind but failed to spell out is: Since W2k contains MSXML 2.5/msxml.dll by default, is it better to
- leave it as it is, or
- upgrade it to the latest version 8.0.7002 with KB832414?

My uninformed guess is that with later versions of MSXML (2.6/msxml2.dll, 3.0/msxml3.dll, etc.) installed it probably does not matter very much. Like erpdude8 said above, later versions fix problems with 2.5, and I guess they take care of most of the business anyway. (I do have them on my system.)

Still, based on what I have understood I would choose to also upgrade the msxml.dll file, because:
- New versions of MSXML after 2.5 do not replace files for older versions, there may be some parallel functioning (?)
- One would (naïvely, perhaps) expect the newer msxml.dll file to be less buggy, just in case if it might be used.
- Microsoft in its grand wisdom has decided to include the upgraded msxml.dll file in XPSP2 and 2003SP1.
- It satisfies my personal desire for completeness .

So you can also read my post as a humble between-the-lines suggestion that maybe there might be a case for including KB832414 for MSXML 2.5 in the Unofficial Service Pack. Of course, this might be a bad idea, but I would not know, as my reasoning is no better informed than what you can read above .

quick question out to everyone, suppose one wanted to slimstream the hotfix for the new kernel driver (included in the update rollup package) how would one do so?

Just a quick update:

KB832414 - added
KB909363 - added
KB139071 - added
KB885912 - added
KB912196 - added

No new downloads just yet.

Best regards
Gurgelmeyer

@ Gurgelmeyer:

I also sent you the 897711 and 898465 updates for Windows 2000 to your gmail account.

the_guy

I only have a CD where I had integrated SP4 using Nlite. I want to add USP 5.1. Can I do that or do I need to still have a virgin Windows 2k CD? Also is there anyway to edit the registry in Nlite so I can load progman or another shell as my default desktop?

I tried to Nlite an Nlited source and ttried to slipstream from an Nlited source - they both failed to
make anything useable. Never tried to USP an Nlited source.

As for changing shells.. example: single user change
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\WinShellEx]
"Default"="GeoShell"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\WinShellEx\GeoShell]
"Start"="c:\\geotest\\GeoShell.exe"

For all users:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="LiteStep.exe"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="c:\\litestep\\LiteStep.exe"

etc etc. exact steps will be explained in docs for your new shell.

you should do that from $oem$\cmdlines.txt
just start a batch file and reg merge tweaks.reg or regedit /s regtweaks.reg

but id recomand doing it asap in your install and dont wait for runonceEx and the shell is than alread loaded (partly)

will there be an updated release with the june patches?

yes there wil be (eventualy) it will most likely be the next release (that at least also will contain MDAC and DirectX9 and .NET (if at all posible).

BTW - Q @ gurgle, do you still think NET is slipstreamable

Many critical patches released June 13

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms06-jun.mspx

Can we please have new iso updated to june patches?

I have never seen so many patches in one month, does it mean microsoft is stopping their patches of win2k soon?

Microsoft is committed to Win2k until 2010. Microsoft does release an ISO of their own for security updates.

A that is only contains the hotfixes (not the windows slipstreamed source)
B that is only avail for users with a SA licence
C it will in most cases not contain Case-Specific Fixes

what he means is if we get a new SP5 release and the answer is ...........
(i hope so )

Dirtwarrior is saying no. That he e-mailed gurglemeyer and he had a relapse of some kind. The future of USP 5 looks bleak.

I hope you're ok Gurgelmeyer, feel better. Please update us whenever you can

Thanks

I'll release a USP 5.1.2195.25 REFRESH soon - to fix the glitches reported and to include the latest updates and fixes (not just those available from WU) - otherwise I'll get back to work on 5.2

Best regards
Gurgel

@Gurgel,

I sent an email to your gmail account this morning regarding a few hotfixes.

Also, would you like a new topic made to keep track of hotfixes?

the_guy

Cool glad you're ok

Will the refresh have up to july fixes?

I wonder whent he new version is coming out, i would like to see a list of complete fixes to prior to the download.