I'm going to be buying 2 GIGS of ram and i'm thinking to go with one of these to:

1. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...580&CatId=0

2. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...374&CatId=0

And I'm thinking to go with one of thease cases also:

1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811129015

2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811119035

i would go for the antec case

my friend will be getting the antec solo case which is rly similar, ill be playing with it in a week so i will let you know about it if u want to wait till then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811129018


for ram, do u wna overclock it?
get one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145575
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146970

thanks ripken

I like that antec case too, but i also like the color master one as well, but i read some reviews on the antec case and the front brezal can break easy and thats why i choose the color master as my Second choice.

as for the ram, i'm not going to overclock it until i get my new mobo as which i will put 2 gigs of DDR2 PC6400

well when are u going to get a new mobo? no point in spending 200$ on ram that is basiaclly obsolete now if u arnt going to use it for long.

also, reasearching on that adata ram, it does look pretty good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820211014
might as well get it from newegg tho

well i'm not going to get a mobo probley until next year, becasue i will also have the Quad core too.... but that ram will be used alot, becasue i will build a second computer and then sell it .

k, sound good. definetly get the adata ram.

that coolermaster case looks flimsy(the metal inside just seems too thin)

Ok then i might do it, I will use the same case when i get new mobo, but that wont be for a while...., So if i upgrade from 1024 ddr PC2700 to 2048 ddr PC3200 i should see a speed increase right?

Case: Any case by Antec is a good choice.
Ram: Any gaming memory from OCZ or Corsair is a good choice.

Antec cases are good, used a few of them.

Ram, OCZ, Corsair, I go for Crucial Ballistixs, superb RAM! (imo)

maleko-any clue if there are still problems with the ballistixs? about a year back ppl were get mem errors like crazy with them.

Going from 128 MBs of RAM to 256 you'll see a speed increase. Going from 256 to 512 you'll see it. Going from 512 to 1024 you'll see it but not as much. Going from 1GB to 2GB, not really. Your system's not going to use all that RAM, you're just spending more money to give your system more memory to use if it needs it. It would only need it if you were doing video capture, conversion, benchmarking, application testing in VMWare, running multiple virtual machines, etc.
If you're not maxing out your system like that then you're likely just wasting more money to have something to brag about. having 4 GBs of memory isn't worth bragging anyway.
You'll notice a decrease in duration with a faster CPU, especially when you're doing video conversion/encoding.

I did have a major problem with my Ballistixs, same speed etc as i got in now, major errors, MAJOR BSOD's...as the company I bought it from are a bunch of *insert bad word here* I foned up Crucial support, sent it to them with RMA, and had a brand new replacemt set WITHIN 24hours, which I have had in my system for...well, a while now, and have had NO problems wat-so-ever. Maybe they fixed it?
I did have a 1GB set of ballistixs before I got my PC4000 2GB set, and had no probs with that either.
In fact I sold that on ebay when I upgraded to my current set, and had no come back on that either.

Personally, I don't see a difference in performance when it comes to RAM, only if you wanna overclock it - thats when it shows stabability I feel, cheap ram is CRAP and nasty, but makes like OCZ, Corsair, Crucial - the big boys, I havent seen a MAJOR performace difference apart from overclocking stabability. (I could be wrong, but thats my experience, I just go for Crucial as their support is ace, and there stuff is nice and I don't overclock much now)
I did find out that the problem before with ballistixs had sommit to do with voltage, not sure exactly wat though.

thought so.
while were on the topic of ram, i just ordered a c2d e6300 comp for a friend no more than 5min ago.

with this ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145167
its the best i could do for the budget

My 2 cents:

A-DATA (V-DATA) makes good RAM and you can OC it with 5-10%, so if you want to OC then get other RAM.


You are looking at 2 very different cases:

The CoolerMaster case:

The good:
- Looks, timeless design
- Materials, totally build out of Aluminum, AND SURE NOT FLIMSY! 2mm inside, 0.8-1mm outside!!

The bad:
- Older inner design
- just one 8cm fan in the back (it has space for 2 8cm fans in front but it will make the system way more noisy)

The Antec case:

The good:
- Good design, except for the dull looking front
- 12cm cooling fan in the back and optional 12cm in front
- Comes with a not-to-bad PSU

The bad:
- Dull looking front

What I want to say more:
The CoolerMaster is a way different case then the Antec, the CoolerMaster is like 40% more expensive then the Antec so there is no way you really can compare them; mostly because of the materials used. I personally like the CoolerMaster better because of it use of Aluminum, even for the front! On the inside I like the Antec better with it’s 12cm blow holes and a not-to-bad PSU.

The questions remain: Do you care about noise? So yes then go for the Antec. Do you like a timeless design and a qualetive better case then go for the CoolerMaster but that one will be 40% more expensive, and yes it’s worth it in my eyes...

I disagree. There is a significant improvement of a Windows XP based computer up to the 2GB mark. There is a noticeable difference between 1GB and 2GB, especially when using large applications such as Microsoft Office, Adobe Creative Suite, the Nero Suite. 2GB is definately worth it.

As for the system not using the full 2GB, that's not true unless you spend the entire time that you use your computer with Windows on idle. Even running a few large applications simultaneously is enough to start making good use of that 2GB of ram.

4GB of ram is about the maximum I'd recommend for a desktop system due to 32-bit limitations. Not everything has moved to 64-bit yet.

Also, you missed a crucial aspect of his question.

The answer is simply Yes. There is a significant improvement in speed going from 333MHz DDR to 400MHz DDR.

yes thats what i thought, And i'm maxing out the system ram also

Thanks for the advice... I dont really care about the noise, I can always fix that anyway But i liked the coolermaster case becasue it was very sleek looking and very simple. and i already have a really nice PSU that would look great in there and there plenty of space in that case. The Antec case was nice looking too, but i read the reviews and they said the front panel was kinda hard to get off and it fragile, unlike the CoolerMaster, don't even have a front panel ( I Think ) But I like the Antec case because it has that system for the side panels its sort of like a door... But as for the CoolerMaster, its a great case for moding because you buy a lot of better stuff for that case off from CoolerMaster's website, like you can get a Side panel with a clear side and some other stuff. but what i dont like is that is uses 80mm fans instead of 120mm fans, buut in the antec case it only has one, but i'm thinking to go with the CoolerMaster case..... Thanks

I stand corrected.

Well I decide and here are the results

* Buying the CoolerMaster Case
* Buying the A-DATA Ram
* Buying 4 Blue LED fans

Thanks guys for all your help

Nice move on the coolermaster case, I got the Wave master case, superb for cooling. and not THAT noisey.

I got the 2 fans at the front (came supplied) one fan at rear (supplied) and I put a fan at the top (optional) as you can remove the audio connection and put a fan grill their, as we know heat rises, good place for a fan.
And the 2 front fan cool the hard drives nicely.

see my pics:

Pic 1

As you can see with this next pic, my Zalman fan lines up perfctly with my exhaust fan.
Pic 2

Pic 3

A friend luckily had a coolermaster side panel they didnt want!
Looks very nice as you can see here.
Pic 4
So yeh, i love this case, and ll my fans are linke dup to fan controllers, which helps wen you dont need the fans on as much, but as i said, isnt really THAT noisey.
Note: these pics are a few months old, I now have a Zalman VGA cooler on my graphics card, which helps to push the air up to the cpu and then out the back of the case, as the zalman VGA cooler has some meaty CFM.

Maleko,

It’s not that noisy but just a bit more then a case with 12cm fans.

Did you see that inside it’s the same as the WaveMaster? Way cool cases and still one of my favorites when you look at quality/price. I remember when I had the first one in my hands, back in 2000; still are the same quality as back then. Prices dropped because at that time the cost was "only" €172 or so .

True, suppose noise doesn't really bother me anyways

I know I'm a little late to the party... but I have a third suggestion for the case.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...31&CatId=32

I tried this case first with my athlon x2 I built myself a year ago and I have been nothing but extatically pleased with it. I removed the gaudy "ultra" silver side-of-case fan cover, to find there is honeycomb black steel grille behind it that looks very nice. The case itself has a 120MM fan hole and is built incredibly well and intellegently. It even directs airflow through the HDD area even if you have no fan there. Here, lemme show you.



As for it having no PSU, go visit http://www.pcpowercooling.com and get yourself one. I got the silencer 360 for $55 shipped a year ago. their customer support is top shelf and so are their PSUs.

On the outside it looks like an Antec or Chieftec, but on the inside it looks a bit renewed. Not to bad for 35 US$ .