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Nerwin
Hey guys,

I got a stupid question, I have this Motherboard - http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mother...e=GA-8I915ME-GL

It can only support a SATA-150 HDD but i am wonder if a SATA-300 will work with this motherboard.

Any Ideas?

Best Regards
Zxian
It has been said many, many, many times. SATA and SATAII are interoperable, but they will just run at SATA speeds.
ripken204
u just need to make sure that ur sata2 drive is set into sata1 mode, then you'll be fine
Nerwin
k, thanks
jcarle
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 9 2006, 06:37 PM) *
u just need to make sure that ur sata2 drive is set into sata1 mode, then you'll be fine

There is no SATA 1 mode.
ripken204
QUOTE (jcarle @ Dec 10 2006, 01:34 AM) *
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 9 2006, 06:37 PM) *

u just need to make sure that ur sata2 drive is set into sata1 mode, then you'll be fine

There is no SATA 1 mode.

?
jcarle
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 10 2006, 01:15 AM) *
QUOTE (jcarle @ Dec 10 2006, 01:34 AM) *

QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 9 2006, 06:37 PM) *

u just need to make sure that ur sata2 drive is set into sata1 mode, then you'll be fine

There is no SATA 1 mode.

?

Motherboards and hard drives that support Serial ATA have certain specifications that they conform to which determine the capabilities of each. Serial ATA is the protocol, regardless of which parts of the specifications they support.

Serial ATA is Serial ATA. There is no SATA I nor SATA II (See: Dispelling the Confusion). There is only SATA. A Serial ATA device can support any number of the functions of the protocol, including transfers of up to 1.5Gb/s or 3Gb/s. Wether a device is 3Gb/s capable and the motherboard is 1.5Gb/s capable, or vice versa, has no bearing on how they operate together. They communicate via the Serial ATA protocol.

It's no different then USB 1.1 vs USB 2.0. USB is USB, but USB 2.0 has a much higher transfer rate. Regardless of transfer rates, a USB 2.0 device talks just fine to a USB 1.1 port and vice versa. Obviously to get the maximum transfer rate, both device and port must be USB 2.0 to have the same feature set.

People often make the mistake to think that if a motherboard supports Serial ATA at 3Gb/s then it must support features that were developed with that revision of the protocol, such as NCQ. That simply isn't the case. A Serial ATA port can operate at 1.5Gb/s and support NCQ, and a Serial ATA port can operate at 3Gb/s and NOT support NCQ, and of course, a Serial ATA port can operate at 3Gb/s and support NCQ.

So it doesn't matter what type revision of Serial ATA the drive has or what revision of Serial ATA the motherboard has, they are fully interoperable. Transfer speeds will operate at the highest available commonly to both devices and features will be available which are commonly available between both devices as well.

If you combine a motherboard that supports 1.5Gb/s, NCQ and Hot Plugging with a hard drive that supports 3Gb/s, NCQ and Staggered Spin-Up, then 1.5Gb/s and NCQ are the only features that will be available since those are the only features that both devices have in common.
ripken204
ya, i knew that. i have no clue where ur trying to go here. all i was saying is that he would have to set a jumper to make his sataII drive go into sataI mode(speed). otherwise the motherboard and drive wont work together. i never said anything about features not being there.
Nerwin
All what i want to know, Will it work or not work?
jcarle
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 10 2006, 01:57 AM) *
ya, i knew that. i have no clue where ur trying to go here. all i was saying is that he would have to set a jumper to make his sataII drive go into sataI mode(speed). otherwise the motherboard and drive wont work together. i never said anything about features not being there.

That's exactly my point, you don't need to set a jumper. You just plug it in, regardless of what revision of Serial ATA it is. The motherboard and hard drive will automatically adjust to each other. You ever set a jumper on a USB 2.0 device because it was a USB 1.1 port? Nope. Neither do you have to with Serial ATA hard drives.

QUOTE (computerMan @ Dec 10 2006, 10:36 AM) *
All what i want to know, Will it work or not work?

Yes.
glent
Dont normally jump into these kinda things but yeah..
My HD does have jumpers to select SATA 1 or SATA 2 mode. So your both right here and yeah the answer is still yes it will work newwink.gif
jcarle
QUOTE
Serial ATA interface disc drives are designed for easy installation. It is not necessary to set any jumpers, terminators, or other settings on this drive for proper operation. The jumper block adjacent to the SATA interface connector is for factory use only.
Source: http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/how...all_tshoot.html

QUOTE
Western Digital Serial ATA hard drives ship from the factory with a jumper shunt in the
Default position (across pins 1 and 2). It is not necessary to move the jumper shunt on the
drive for workstation or desktop use.
Source: http://www.wdc.com/en/library/sata/2779-001006.pdf

Again, you do not need to set a jumper on Serial ATA drives.
techtype
QUOTE (jcarle @ Dec 10 2006, 11:45 AM) *
QUOTE
Serial ATA interface disc drives are designed for easy installation. It is not necessary to set any jumpers, terminators, or other settings on this drive for proper operation. The jumper block adjacent to the SATA interface connector is for factory use only.
Source: <a href="http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/how...all_tshoot.html" target="_blank">http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/how...all_tshoot.html</a>

QUOTE
Western Digital Serial ATA hard drives ship from the factory with a jumper shunt in the
Default position (across pins 1 and 2). It is not necessary to move the jumper shunt on the
drive for workstation or desktop use.
Source: <a href="http://www.wdc.com/en/library/sata/2779-001006.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.wdc.com/en/library/sata/2779-001006.pdf</a>

Again, you do not need to set a jumper on Serial ATA drives.


Google claims that it's not quite that simple, some motherboards and\or sata chips only work with the jumper set to sata1. YMMV
ripken204
well after doing more research, it appears that pretty much every sataII drive comes in sataI mode, and if u want sataII mode you need to set it to sataII mode thru jumper or a utility. but jcarle, why else would they allow you to change back to sataI mode if you didnt need to?
jcarle
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 10 2006, 05:35 PM) *
well after doing more research, it appears that pretty much every sataII drive comes in sataI mode, and if u want sataII mode you need to set it to sataII mode thru jumper or a utility. but jcarle, why else would they allow you to change back to sataI mode if you didnt need to?

I suppose like all things in the world, things aren't perfect. Same reason you can go into your BIOS and force your USB 2.0 ports to function as USB 1.1. Some manufacturers don't respect standards and ajustments have to be made to increase compatiblity.
MGadAllah
Thanks for pointing out this issue
I'm about to buy a new motherboard and will take this issue into consideration smile.gif
ripken204
haha, a long thread on a simples "yes" answer
Nerwin
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Dec 11 2006, 08:09 PM) *
haha, a long thread on a simples "yes" answer


Thanks you, thats all what i wanted to know smile.gif
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