i have now a Sempron64 2.2Ghz processor, and i want to upgrade it, i was looking into gettin a Athlon64 3700+ Clawhammer Core, but i found that the Turion processor is compatible with S754, can i use this in my desktop, i have a ASrock K8NF4G-SATA2, and if i can what are the benifits over the Athlon processor

A full list of compatible CPUs for your board can be found here:

http://www.asrock.com/support/CPU_Support/...el=K8NF4G-SATA2

Not sure about the Turion, so can't really say, have heard mobile CPUs work in desktop systems, dunno about this though.

As for Athlon over Sempron, biggest difference is Level2 Cache.
Semprons are either 128 or 256 L2 Cache.

Where as Athlon are 512 or 1MB L2 cache, the more cache, the faster/better basically.

I have the A64 3700+ with 1MB L2 Cache, superb Chip. Not a bad price either.

Hope that helps.

cheers.....i may just have to go with the A64, but i was asking because the Turion processor are relativly cheaper.....and seem to have same sort of spec

yeh, just not sure how compatible they are, as i said, seen it done b4, just not 100% sure so i cant say really.

its cool mate...cheers for the help...ill wait a few more days before i buy anything, see if anyone else can help

You will not get much out of double the cache of your CPU.

I would stick with what you have now unless it’s not good enough you can go to a S939 X2 CPU. When you have 2 DIMMs with the same size you can enable 128bit mode on S939.

If that still isn’t enough you can go Core2Duo...

mine now is 2.8 Ghz, 1 MB Cache, Bass 800 Boxed. and I'm thinking about upgrading to 3.4 Ghz 2x2 MB cache Bus 800 Boxed. Actually I do not play Game or woking with Graphics, just normal home user. Do you think it will make no differ?

The Turion could be a good bet for a silent PC- Silent PC Review did a writeup on using the Turion on the desktop.

I dunno if they're even available in the Clawhammer variant.
They likely are all San Diego. Thus a BIOS flash likely is required for it to boot with one!

San Diego is the new single core process, which requires less Vcore than the Clawhammers.

methinks San Diego = socket 939 variant; lancaster =socket 754

I think so.

256kB VS 512kB no, 256kB VS 1024kB yes...

Maybe for you, but made a difference for me.
It's how much u notice it, of course u will notice it more from 256 to 1024, but still a difference from 256 to 512.

hang on..........s754 has two different core A64's, one is the Newcastle core which is 512kb cache and the Clawhammer whitch 1mb, the one im going for is the Clawhammer even though the Newcastle is alot cheaper as they say, best bang for your buck !!

As for the turion im not going to bother with it.

Yeh, go for the 1MB L2 Cache one, I wouldnt go for anything lower now, which is why I aint getting some of the AMD dual cores, as they only do 512 most, if not all of them.

U may wanna check for a bios update, just incase.

*puntoMX shakes his head *

Always I like to see how people trow away there money, I wish I had some of you guys as my customers .

explain PuntoMX

I just did with you on MSN

*lost now*

here is the conversation we had loool

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interesting convo...i see major differences between semprons and athlons..semprons are the budget CPU, like celerons between pentiums...

anyway...

video editing? Defo Intel for that.

Although i do use my 3700 for video editing and have good encoding times.

Personally, I think dual cores are highly over rated atm. (imo) as applicatons arent optimzed for dual/multi core cpus fully yet.

yeah...when i had my Inspiron 5150 laptop, that had a petium 4 3.2ghz, and video editing was a breeze on that......well has you have read i was thinking about going dual core but ill see.....everything is only a consideration.......

at the end of the day, you've heard views and opinions from a few people, so just down to how much u wanna spend and wat direction you wana go.

indeed it is......well 2 weeks till xmas...maybe ill surprise my self loool

3aces,

LOL, but eeuhmm, ... Better to delete that file and drop a line or 2 what you are planning too. Not everybody needs to know my real name and e-mail address. Thanx .

I would like to surprise my self to with a Core2duo .

sorry mate i forgot to edit it my bad....if its not a problem ill put a edited one up there so people do know what were on about

no no, go ahead .

Click to view attachmenthere is the edited convo lool