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raza
I recently bought this PS3 and now iam willing to share my internet from the computer on it.I have dsl which works through a single port usb modem.Now ps3 has wifi and ethernet options.I donot have any lan card in my pc.I was wonderin what will be the best way to use internet on my ps3 at a nominal price?Is it possible for me to share internet by just connecting a lan card to my pc and connectin it to ps3 through ethernet?Or is there some other way?Plz help me as soon as possible.
P.S. I want to share the internet that is use it on both of them at the same time....
bj-kaiser
you can stick a lan card into your pc and use windows internet connection sharing, but you will obviously have to turn on your pc when you want to use internet on the ps3. personally i would go and replace that usb modem with a dsl-modem/router-combo (if money allows it).
raza
suppose I install a lan card in the pc then wat shud I do?can u temme step by step??
bj-kaiser
I can only say there is a option in the settings of your Internet connection, where it should say something like 'share this internet connection with ...'. And there should be an article in Windows help, that explains how to setup connection sharing.
ripken204
dont use ICS, its crap. you should seriously just get a router, either wireless or wired, it doesnt matter. they dont cost that much. it will also have a built in firewall which will help ur comp from catching viruses and other stuff.
raza
wats ics?
puntoMX
Internet Connection Sharing newwink.gif


@ripken,

You would be supprised to see for how much they sell a xDSL modem with gateway or router.
And then there is the question if the ISP acceps it.
nitroshift
punto, i think ripken was thinking about linking a router with a built-in switch to the dsl modem and share the connection that way. this is actually my set-up at home.
ripken204
nitro is right. punto-your way works but like you said, the isp prolly doesnt support it, or you need to get a special one from them.

so all that he should do is:

CODE
modem->router->comp
             ->ps3


im doing this with my xbox and my comp, not to mention i need a wireless router for 2 other comps..
puntoMX
lol, Okay guys, tell me;

How are you going to connect USB to a router or switch. If you found one that can do that then let me know and I will order 100 of them directly.
ripken204
so his modem only supports usb? all of the modems ive ever seen support both usb and ethernet...
i think that he should contact his isp and ask for an updated model
puntoMX
iīve seen it before, the ISP does it when they want that you only connect one computer to the net. Most of the time it comes with the cheapest, letīs say 64-128kbps, connections. Sux big time I know...
nitroshift
USB modems suck big time.... And they`re a PITA to set up. That's why I went with a RJ45 modem newwink.gif Had to pay a bit but it's worth every single cent!
raza
Yah ppl u r right I have a usb modem.So now what should I do???Will I be able to share net by connectin lan on pc n a wire thru that to ps3???That ics??Why does ics suck??
ripken204
ics is just a pain to set up and you isp may not even support it, at least mine doesnt.
puntoMX
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nmX.Memnoch
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Mar 25 2007, 12:44 PM) *
ics is just a pain to set up and you isp may not even support it, at least mine doesnt.

They may not support that you use it but I don't see how they can keep you from using it.
ripken204
i was confused about that too. i was trying to set it up one day with my xbox and i just couldnt get it to work. so i googled and came across a forum and it said that i should call my isp to see if they supported it... so i did. and they immediatly said that they do not support ICS. i was thinking the same as you guys, like how is this an isp problem, isnt it only a windows problem? but i dont know, thats all that they told me.
nmX.Memnoch
Have you tried using it to share access with other computers though? I used ICS a loooooong time ago (as well as RRAS in 2000) and I can tell you that opening ports and getting them to work properly is a PITA.
ripken204
ya i got my xbox and pc to connect to eachother, but i couldnt get the xbox to connect to the internet.
crahak
QUOTE (nmX.Memnoch @ Mar 25 2007, 07:46 PM) *
Have you tried using it to share access with other computers though? I used ICS a loooooong time ago (as well as RRAS in 2000) and I can tell you that opening ports and getting them to work properly is a PITA.

While I don't recall having issues with opening ports in ICS (haven't tried that in a while, so perhaps I just don't remember -- or did I just chose to forget the horrible memories?) I can certainly attest to ICS being a PITA. Very often after running the config wizard the "client" PC gets stuck at the DHCP stage. I've never bothered to see if it's just too braindead to accept one, or if it's the machine doing the sharing/NAT that's too stupid to hand one out when asked (likely this one). But the client is stuck on 169.254.x.x for forever -- until you fix it. Eventually you get it working, but it's always a pain.

Once it finally gets an IP (required to see the other PCs), then I've never seen it have problems with "connecting to internet". I don't remember a single instance where one couldn't get to the internet through it (unless a particular app needs one port open and it's not). Not sure about xbox'es (I got one, but it's never been on the net)

As for RRAS, I've never had any troubles with it (that's what I'm currently using). Opening ports is simple and it works all the time. Sufficient/secure enough for me and it has all the features I really need (i.e. I can VPN through it no problem too). But it's not part of XP, so not an option here.

Even if some think ICS sucks (I'm not saying they're not wrong), why not try it anyways? It'll take about 15 minutes to set it up (10 minutes of that being troubleshooting/fighting with the braindead DHCP server). No 3rd party software to install or anything. Totally free, nothing to buy or whatever. Just a few minutes of his time. Pretty easy to use too, even for the "networking-challenged". It's worth a try.

And if that doesn't work, then try to get a non-USB modem (preferably one with no ghetto router in it), threaten your ISP to leave or something. I know I wouldn't ever use a modem w/o a plain old RJ45. And if that fails too, then you're basically stuck looking for 3rd party NAT/internet sharing software (often commercial, and often sucks as bad or worse than ICS).
nmX.Memnoch
QUOTE (crahak @ Mar 25 2007, 09:24 PM) *
[(10 minutes of that being troubleshooting/fighting with the braindead DHCP server)
That's because there is no DHCP server with ICS. smile.gif

The 169.254.x.x series of IPs is what XP uses when it's set to DHCP but no DHCP server is available on the network. With ICS you have to use static IPs on all of your machines (with the .1 address on the ICS host/gateway). That'll reduce A LOT of the wait time. smile.gif
crahak
QUOTE (nmX.Memnoch @ Mar 26 2007, 09:03 PM) *
That's because there is no DHCP server with ICS. smile.gif

Wrong. The computer sharing the connection also serves as a DHCP server for all the computers connecting thru it. And it works... Like half the time. If there was no DHCP server, it wouldn't ever work -- at all (unless you manually setup static IPs, which you don't have to -- even the ICS wizard sets up the clients to ask for one). The DHCP Allocator is part of the NAT/Basic Firewall service (there's also registry entries for the settings and all). Don't believe me? Try running netstat a ICS host, and you should see it listening on :BootPC and :BootPS or something similar.

QUOTE (nmX.Memnoch @ Mar 26 2007, 09:03 PM) *
The 169.254.x.x series of IPs is what XP uses when it's set to DHCP but no DHCP server is available on the network.

It's using an APIPA address (from 169.254.0.1 to 169.254.255.254, B class, subnet mask 255.255.0.0 i.e. 169.254.0.0/16). Always happens when DHCP doesn't work (it's the best way to find out if it worked). No surprises here. I'm just saying that ICS' DHCP server sucks/is unreliable, that's all. That's the main issue with it as far as I've noticed (other than that it's not nearly as bad as most people tend to put it).

QUOTE (nmX.Memnoch @ Mar 26 2007, 09:03 PM) *
With ICS you have to use static IPs on all of your machines

No you don't have to. You can (and I tend to, because the DHCP server sucks). But most of the time it'll work fine (it's just the initial setup that seems problematic). It's not like they expect end-users/home users to go around and start assigning static IPs (and then wonder why it doesn't work when they plug elsewhere and all). There's no reason to... Besides ICS' DHCP server being brain dead I mean.

My point was, it's not nearly as bad as most people put it, besides the DHCP server issues. He can spend the 15 minutes to fight with it, and see if it works for him. Total cost 0$. There's just no reason not to try it, especially when you look at the other options, either:
-another modem. Likely costly, if even possible, or
-3rd party software. That would most likely be expensive, heavier and more complicated (like Kerio WinRoute Firewall at 400$), and sometimes no better than ICS...
nmX.Memnoch
QUOTE (crahak @ Mar 26 2007, 09:22 PM) *
QUOTE (nmX.Memnoch @ Mar 26 2007, 09:03 PM) *
That's because there is no DHCP server with ICS. smile.gif

Wrong. The computer sharing the connection also serves as a DHCP server for all the computers connecting thru it.


I stand corrected...the last time I used ICS was on Win98 SE. smile.gif

I did some quick reading and it's a very basic DHCP server (not much else required other than an IP, submask and the gateway anyway, though). Although I still tend to think that in that situation it's still better to use static IPs. Mainly in such a case that if your ICS machine just happens to be off and you fire up another machine that happens to take the .1 address.

ICS will work in a pinch...no doubt there. But given the option I'd much rather use a cable/DSL router. Just my 2 cents...
raza
Hey ppl ICS is working fine on my ps3 but the only thing is the speed is really slow as compared to my computer internet speed.Any suggestions?
ripken204
thats another one of the downfalls...
raza
So is there any way to increase the speed?I have netlimiter it can grant and limit speeds to different softwares but I can't find any way for lan.Plz help.

So ppl can I??Plz???
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