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debby
Hey guys, new girl here. welcome.gif

Sorry for the suggestive topic, but it did get you read my post.

My name is Debby, and I have a problem.

My ex-boyfriend built me a computer, and the hard drive died.

I decided to move up to SATA drives and mirror them with RAID, so I bought a pair of Maxtor 250s.

The problem is that I need to install the SATA drivers and the Promise RAID drivers through the Floppy Drive for the computer to recognize the SATA drives, but the Floppy seems to be broken at the Motherboard (I had a friend from work check it with a new cable and drive, still didn’t work). The ex never installed the drivers, since it never used SATA before.

So, since nLite doesn’t need the Floppy, I figured I would just download and burn all the drivers onto a disc and boot from the DVD drive. thumbup.gif

Didn’t work. thumbdown.gif

I followed the instructions from the beginners guide sticky, but all I get is a flashing cursor. I’ve looked at the disc on my laptop, and it has information on it, so I don’t know what I did wrong.

Please help!! yes.gif

Computer Specs:

MSI K8T Neo – FIS2R
AMD Socket 754 Athlon64 3200+
ATI 9800 All in Wonder

Windows XP SP2

Please let me know if you need any more information.

Thanks,
Debby wub.gif
Kelsenellenelvian
Coupla questions here>

When you selected the drivers for integration did the box popup asking for the "Storage Txtmode Driver" integration options?
If yes did you select the XP option?
debby
No, I didn't see a box pop up.
Kelsenellenelvian
OK then you selected the wrong drivers.

Where did you get the sata drivers from?
Kelsenellenelvian
I am looking for updated drivers right now for you.

Ok unrar this folder and select the folder for driver integration in nLite.

I am fairly sure this is the driver you need if not I have another.
debby
The SATA drivers were downloaded from MSI's website. The numbers (more or less) matched what is written on the floppy that came with the board, but who knows if it is wrong/bad. unsure.gif

I'm making cookies right now, woot.gif and can't do the download for another 1.5 hours or so (6 dozen cookies takes time, after all).

Thank you so much for your help!! wub.gif

I'll let you know when I've got them.

Debby
Kiki Burgh
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 9 2007, 05:11 AM) *
Sorry for the suggestive topic, but it did get you read my post.
ha! ha! sure you got our attention! try to download what Kel has provided ... it'l just take seconds to do since it's a small file only ...
debby
OK, I've finished the cookies and the download. I know how to eat the cookies, but I don't know how to un-rar the file. huh.gif
Kelsenellenelvian
Soorry my bad here is a sfx file simply point it to a folder and choose install.

Then select the .inf (in the folder) during the driver integration part of nLite,
-I-
whooot lill female charm does the trick anytime tongue.gif -
but a - i guess my g/f doesn't relate to it really...

btw i did notice that you first Read the G#$#$ manual before asking,

so i hope that you got your pc working again, if not, get back here soon and next time ill hope to be noticing these kinds of posts a bit sooner ...

Happy Easter...
mark
Good one debby. But my guess is that 99% of the guys here don't know Dallas. woot.gif

DL
Avien
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 8 2007, 09:50 PM) *
OK, I've finished the cookies and the download. I know how to eat the cookies, but I don't know how to un-rar the file. huh.gif



Did you get the drivers to integrate properly?
debby
Hey guys,

Sorry to post so late; I got hung up at work. dry.gif

I'm gonna get a bite, feed the kitty, then download the .exe and create a new disc. thumbup.gif

Give me about an hour and I'll let you know how it's going. And I'll respond to all your posts.

Thanks again,

Debby

-I-,

"btw i did notice that you first Read the G#$#$ manual before asking..."

I am a proper lady, and as such, I have no idea what G#$#$ means (nor do I care to). angel.gif

And while you claim to have a girlfriend, I notice that you're up at 2:43 in the morning. Perhaps she was offended by G#$#$ also.

tongue.gif


DL,

"Good one debby. But my guess is that 99% of the guys here don't know Dallas."

I've been hearing about Dallas since I was little, but I've never seen it. Perhaps you could describe it for us? whistling.gif


To all,

I'm creating the install disc on the other laptop as I type this (I did mention I'm an Octopus, didn't I?), and should know soon if it works.
LeveL
I was laugh.gif before I even clicked this topic.

Debby does nLite... no, I think nLite is doing you. tongue.gif

If you want to give the ISO SATA support without a floppy disk,
integrate the Bashrat The Sneaky driverpack "MassStorage"
AFTER you have done whatever you are doing with nLite.

Its really easy slipstreaming Bashrats drivers... don't be shy,
I know you're not, lol...

Download this: BASE

Download this: SATA Driverpack

Extract the BASE. Don't extract the drivers, just put the 7z file, as it is, inside the
"driverpacks" folder that the BASE spits out, then open the BASE program, its all
very easy from then on, just choose all the defaults and tick the "Textmode" box.
mark
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 10 2007, 12:49 AM) *
I've been hearing about Dallas since I was little, but I've never seen it. Perhaps you could describe it for us? whistling.gif

Ah, nothing special. It's just like all the others. You know, bake some cookies and then bake some more. Occasionally they would bake some oatmeal cookies for variety. It was a fair hit in it's day. Any greater description and I would get banned. ph34r.gif tongue.gif Your view count is getting pretty good on this thread. You in advertising? lol

Oh, I hope your next attempt to burn a successful disk is good. We are all waiting. Don't forget to be informative on what you have done to be successful(like you need to be told).

DL
Avien
QUOTE (LeveL @ Apr 10 2007, 01:19 AM) *
I was laugh.gif before I even clicked this topic.

Debby does nLite... no, I think nLite is doing you. tongue.gif

If you want to give the ISO SATA support without a floppy disk,
integrate the Bashrat The Sneaky driverpack "MassStorage"
AFTER you have done whatever you are doing with nLite.

Its really easy slipstreaming Bashrats drivers... don't be shy,
I know you're not, lol...

Download this: BASE

Download this: SATA Driverpack

Extract the BASE. Don't extract the drivers, just put the 7z file, as it is, inside the
"driverpacks" folder that the BASE spits out, then open the BASE program, its all
very easy from then on, just choose all the defaults and tick the "Textmode" box.


Seems to be a lot more work for her. She already downloaded the required drivers off their site and followed everyone else's advice and nlite does a fine job integrating the drivers. Plus wouldn't the driver pack contain massive amounts of drivers that might not be necessary and just add space?
bledd
super easy guide for you..

copy windows disc contents to C:\XPCD

download this..

http://bleddyn.co.uk/temp/RAID_Slipstreamer_v3.0.exe
and copy it to C:\ (not desktop)


run it, type the path as C:\XPCD, and click proceed (this will put a load of drivers (sata ones) into the disc for you)
now load up nlite, go to the ISO screen (last one) and burn to disc

will be bootable and will have the drivers you want on it : newwink.gif
Avien
You could even add updates into the disc, but lets get the drivers working first. biggrin.gif
debby
Hey guys,

OK, I finally put the disc in and fired up the computer.

What I'm seeing is a blank screen with a flashing line in the upper left corner (I'll describe it as "DOS" style, for lack of a better word).

Is this OK, or should I be seeing something else? unsure.gif

Thanks,
Debby
debby
Here's what I did to make the CD:

In the step to add drivers, added the .inf file from the 3112.exe that Kel supplied (Thanks Kel!).

Then just added my product key in the unattended install step.

My only tweak was to set automatic updates to prompt first.

Followed the directions to create the ISO.

Burned the CD as a bootable CD using Roxio.

Some updates:

My XP is Pro SP1 (not 2 as previously mentioned).

The friend from work who checked out my Floppy Drive started the machine with XP loaded onto an ATA drive that I had been limping along with, and (I think) formatted the 2 SATA drives, in an attempt to make them see-able (if that's a word....well, it is now) by the computer. He then tried to load the XP disc directly onto the mirrored pair, but the computer said that the XP disc was an older version of XP (probably meaning no online updates), and it wouldn't let him interact with it. mad.gif

Hopefully none of this killed my chances of using nLite... blink.gif
Kelsenellenelvian
OK you made a minor mistake there you don't burn the cd as a bootable cd, the iso image nLite makes is already bootable you need to burn the iso image not add the iso to a cd. I am not sure how you choose burn a image in roxio but here is a tiny app that will give you the power to right click and burn the iso properly. --> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm <-- Pay attention to the version as there are 2 versions depending on what version of XP you are using.

QUOTE
My XP is Pro SP1 (not 2 as previously mentioned).


QUOTE
but the computer said that the XP disc was an older version of XP


Why not upgrade to SP2 while you are at it?
LeveL
QUOTE (Avien @ Apr 10 2007, 10:50 PM) *
Seems to be a lot more work for her.


Its not. It takes 30 seconds to slipstream Bashrat's MassStorage pack.

QUOTE (Avien @ Apr 10 2007, 10:50 PM) *
She already downloaded the required drivers off their site and followed everyone else's advice and nlite does a fine job integrating the drivers.


It didn't work though.

QUOTE (Avien @ Apr 10 2007, 10:50 PM) *
Plus wouldn't the driver pack contain massive amounts of drivers that might not be necessary and just add space?


No, its 3.65Mb.
bledd
ok, start again..

copy disc to C:\xpcd

run nlite
select "Service Pack integration", and Create ISO, then download this (might take a while!) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=en (that's SP2) point nlite at that it'll add it to the disc..

don't create iso yet, leave nlite open for a bit

do what i said to do (that program) in my last post ^scroll up a bit, then create iso using Direct Burn in nlite
ArcticRider
Wow! A female using nlite. Is that even possible?? rolleyes.gif Where are the system requirements? laugh.gif
debby
Hey guys,

Thank you for all the replies. wub.gif

I'm at work now , but I'll try another burn when I get home.

And not to sound ungrateful, but this is a ton of information, and, um, I was kind of hoping that there would be a consensus on how to go about it. unsure.gif

I'll try to sign in earlier, so we can get some action, er, get this working, tonight. blushing.gif

Kel:

Upgrading to SP2 is the plan, I just wanted to be clear about the baseline.

ArcticRider:
"Wow! A female using nlite. Is that even possible?? Where are the system requirements? "

My requirements are far more than your system can handle. no.gif tongue.gif
Avien
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 11 2007, 11:23 AM) *
Hey guys,

Thank you for all the replies. wub.gif

I'm at work now , but I'll try another burn when I get home.

And not to sound ungrateful, but this is a ton of information, and, um, I was kind of hoping that there would be a consensus on how to go about it. unsure.gif

I'll try to sign in earlier, so we can get some action, er, get this working, tonight. blushing.gif

Kel:

Upgrading to SP2 is the plan, I just wanted to be clear about the baseline.

ArcticRider:
"Wow! A female using nlite. Is that even possible?? Where are the system requirements? "

My requirements are far more than your system can handle. no.gif tongue.gif



Well if you still can not get it to work, this weekend when i get off school i will put together a guide using pictures and text in a step by step basis. It will also include how to add service pack 2, drivers, etc. and ryanvm packs so you do not have to download 200+ hotfixes as soon as you start up.
debby
Ok guys, I'm back. rolleyes.gif

In re-reading all the posts, it looks like there are several ways to do this, thus making it more confusing. blink.gif

So, as a woman (you know, with all the power), I'm going to make an executive decision: Since Kel answered first, I'll follow his directions. If that burns a coaster/cat toy, then I'll work my way through the list until someone can perform satisfactorily. newwink.gif

Once I have an OS on the SATAs, then we can go back through and you guys can teach me how to streamline the system and all that other cool stuff.

Fair enough? biggrin.gif

Debby

Hey guys, I'm back.

I tried Kel's solution, only to find that the recording software ( ISORecorder) won't recognize my burner (the recorder field is blank). mad.gif

LeveL mentioned something about slipstreaming and bashing rats, which isn't clear to me exactly where the stuff goes, and when. wacko.gif

bledd linked to RAID Slipstreamer; I'll try that now.

Hooray!! I'm batting 1000!! (Well, 1000 views anyway). thumbup.gif woot.gif

Now if only I could get nLite to work. confused.gif

SP2 has finished it's download, so I can continue with the burn.

Wish me luck!

No, more than last time! newwink.gif

OK, XP tried to load like the source disc does, and looked exactly the same, including the part where it asks if I have drivers for the RAID setup. I let it run, since I don't have a Floppy, and at the end it said it couldn't find any HDs to load onto. mad.gif

Better, but still no SATA drivers.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Debby
ArcticRider
I dpn't know what to tell you. If you were my woman, I'd tell you to use the oven and make me some cookies! much easier then the computer. laugh.gif
Kelsenellenelvian
Now that was really sexist and kinda uncalled for.

@ Debbie I am really sorry iso recorder did not work for you. I have never ran into a drive it wasn't compatable with.
bledd
just follow my past two posts, really easy and straight forward steps smile.gif
debby
Kel,
"Now that was really sexist and kinda uncalled for."

Not to worry; It's all in good fun, and I've put up with much worse playing paintball. thumbup.gif

ArcticRider,
"I dpn't know what to tell you. If you were my woman, I'd tell you to use the oven and make me some cookies! much easier then the computer. "

If I were your woman, I'd poison the cookies, bury your carcass in the garden, raise some vegetables (something smarter than you), and find a real man. ph34r.gif

Kel,
"@ Debbie I am really sorry iso recorder did not work for you. I have never ran into a drive it wasn't compatable with."

I'm using an HP laptop w/ an external USB burner, xp tablet pc edition 2005, ver. 2002, sp2. It is the quicker of the two laptops, but my old Dell has a built-in burner, if that would make a difference.

bledd,
"just follow my past two posts, really easy and straight forward steps "

I did just that: I downloaded the RAID stuff, created the nLite file, downloaded SP2, pointed at it...

Did you supply these in the wrong order, in that I should have done the the SP2 stuff first?

Also, in your second post, you write: "select "Service Pack integration", and Create ISO, " and then 2 lines later you write: "don't create iso yet, leave nlite open for a bit".

What's a girl to think? unsure.gif

Debby

Here's a thought: Since I know I can get access to the RAID HDs (via starting up with an ATA with XP on it and clicking "My Computer"), can I place (somehow) XP directly in them by copying from the nLite CD?

When I last tried to access them using the nLite disc as an OS, everything looked normal, but the only choice I had for the install destination was C: (that's the ATA, while the Mirror set-up is F:).

For example, since I can take the contents of the OS disc, plus other drivers and who knows what else, and create an unattended install disc (on a whole other computer) that will understand to put all that stuff onto the F: drives (in theory, anyway), is there a way to take the same info and place it straight onto the F: discs from the C: drive on the same machine? Perhaps copy the disc contents onto F:, disconnect C: and have it find it's own way? blink.gif

Or am I dreaming? confused.gif

Thanks,
Debby
BikinDutchman
I do these installations a lot, I am not sure whether this was already mentioned in one of the many posts but the regular Microsoft method is:
-You need to have your driver files (from the floppy) in CD\$oem$\Textmode
-You need to have something like the following statements in your unattended file (CD\i386\WinNT.sif):
[MassStorageDrivers]
"Marvell 61xx SATA Controller Windows 32bit Driver" = OEM
[OEMBootFiles]
mv61xx
mv61xx.cat
mv61xx.inf
mv61xx.sys
mvnodrv.inf
Txtsetup.oem
-The entry under [Defaults] in txtsetup.oem should point to the correct configuration
-Make sure the file locations in txtsetup.oem are correct (watch out for subfolders on the floppy)

The details for your system are different. I do not know how nlite integrates this. This is not a normal driver integration.

If you think this is the way to go I might give a little more detail for your system.
debby
Yay Us!! thumbup.gif

I followed bledd's advice meticulously, plus included the MSI drivers direct from their site, and it worked! yes.gif

I'm FAT, 32, and happy! woot.gif

Wait, that's not right: I'm NTFS, and happy!

Thank you to everyone who took the time to advise me on this, and especially bledd, for the winning combination. wub.gif

I'll start getting some work done, and check back in a week to see about removing some of the dead weight (wait a minute, I already got rid of him).

Hugs to all!
Debby angel.gif
bledd
glad you got it sorted

using the raid slipstreamer is a bit of a shotgun approach, but it's so simple compared to manually doing it smile.gif
Martin L
@ Debby: We have an edit button to edit your posts, its much better than always posting a new reply. Try to avoid to post a new reply every time you have something new, just edit your previous post. (I merged your posts).

@ ArcticRider: If you have nothing normal to say, stay away from this place then. man and women are equal here. You can consider this as a warning.
Pistolero
Can you imagine how much fun a sociologist would have deconstructing this topic? :-P

@Debby: Keep on hacking, girl! Question: You have a choice of getting ONE gift, either a very expensive piece of jewelery (diamonds, of course), or a equivalently expensive huge-screen HDTV set. What would you choose?
debby
Martin L,
"@ Debby: We have an edit button to edit your posts, its much better than always posting a new reply. Try to avoid to post a new reply every time you have something new, just edit your previous post. (I merged your posts)."

I apologize; I didn't realize it was a problem. As for ArcticRider, don't worry about him: I poisoned his cookies. shifty.gif

Pistolero,
"Question: You have a choice of getting ONE gift, either a very expensive piece of jewelery (diamonds, of course), or a equivalently expensive huge-screen HDTV set. What would you choose?"

Duh! The diamonds, of course. They'll have a higher resale value, so I could buy a Ducati 600 Monster Dark (w/ a seat lowering kit, because I'm inseam challenged). thumbup.gif I had a Moto Guzzi V65 SP, but with the fairing and all, it was just too heavy. Sold that about 2 years ago.

If there's any money left over, I might look into paintball again. I haven't played in several years because I've got an older pump gun, and I can't compete against the hosers with their $2,000, 15 round-per-second, electric trigger guns. mad.gif

Did you ask because you're thinking of getting me something? blushing.gif laugh.gif
rds_correia
What an amusing thread!

@Martin L
I come here everyday and I can't tell you how much it pleases me to see a woman in this circle using nLite, talking about RAID/SATA drivers in Textmode and stuff.
Not that women are anything less than we are when it comes to PC business but unfortunately we don't get to see them here too often because they seem to prefer baking some cookies to their husbands/boyfriends rather than installing Win XP again.
Therefore, if you look at this as an isolated event and if you ask me my opinion I say that ArcticRider's approach was very direct but not nasty and meaning no arm to debby.
You're the Mod and you know your users better than I do but I just don't see the reason for heating up with Arctic newwink.gif.
Besides, she handled it perfectly smile.gif.

@debby
Way to go girl biggrin.gif.
Time to get rid of that SP1 and move on to SP2 with a couple of addons, huh? tongue.gif

Peace
Clint
This thread is quite embarrassing for me as an male/human. Starting with a post from Debbie using words as first time and virgin as a lure for all you suckers (and then jumping on ArcticRider when he is only following the initiated path)... pffft, suckers.
Clint
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 14 2007, 02:59 PM) *
Martin L,
"@ Debby: We have an edit button to edit your posts, its much better than always posting a new reply. Try to avoid to post a new reply every time you have something new, just edit your previous post. (I merged your posts)."

I apologize; I didn't realize it was a problem. As for ArcticRider, don't worry about him: I poisoned his cookies. shifty.gif

Pistolero,
"Question: You have a choice of getting ONE gift, either a very expensive piece of jewelery (diamonds, of course), or a equivalently expensive huge-screen HDTV set. What would you choose?"

Duh! The diamonds, of course. They'll have a higher resale value, so I could buy a Ducati 600 Monster Dark (w/ a seat lowering kit, because I'm inseam challenged). thumbup.gif I had a Moto Guzzi V65 SP, but with the fairing and all, it was just too heavy. Sold that about 2 years ago.

If there's any money left over, I might look into paintball again. I haven't played in several years because I've got an older pump gun, and I can't compete against the hosers with their $2,000, 15 round-per-second, electric trigger guns. mad.gif

Did you ask because you're thinking of getting me something? blushing.gif laugh.gif


...not fun at all.
The talk about 'resale value' for a gift and choosing the diamonds really puts me off...

Stay on the bike girl, or do the 'girliething'...but act accordingly.

Thread initiated with words like 'virgin' 'first time'..coupled with 'biker chick aspirations' and 'resale value' for gifts....sign of the times I guess, but very embarrassing none the less.
debby
Clint,
"This thread is quite embarrassing for me as an male/human. Starting with a post from Debbie using words as first time and virgin as a lure for all you suckers (and then jumping on ArcticRider when he is only following the initiated path)... pffft, suckers. "

You should have put a "blushing" emoticon blushing.gif after your "embarrassing" line; it would draw more attention to it. You see, Clint, that's how advertizing works: You add a zing to an otherwise ordinary thing. Kind of like what I did with my original post.

I needed help with my computer, and with 9,000 nLite topics to choose from, I wanted to make sure that people saw mine.

I even apologized in my original post for using the provocative language, and explained that it was for the zing factor.

And while it may embarrass you as a man/human that all these "suckers" fell for the topic, YOU took the time to read through it as well. See how well advertizing works? thumbup.gif

As for ArcticRider, I think that his comments were funny and in the spirit of the game. I responded to them in that vain. Others thought he was out of line, but I was perfectly OK with it.


Clint,
"...not fun at all.
The talk about 'resale value' for a gift and choosing the diamonds really puts me off..."

Well, Clint, I got a huge pile of steaming cow pies for you. It's a gift. You must cherish it always, because it's a gift. Hopefully this illustrates the valuable lesson: Not all things are worth the same to all people.

When I give a gift, it's to bestow upon someone something that they want, not something I want for them, because they may not value it as I do. If it's something they want, I know they'll value it.

In the Diamonds vs. Big Screen, choice, I don't really want either. I want a Monster Dark. If stuck with either the diamonds or big screen, I suppose I'd take the TV: At least it has some utility value.

As for putting you off, I guess you'd better find a girl (or guy, depending on your preference) who has exactly the same taste in things as you, lest you be disapointed with their disapointment.


"Stay on the bike girl, or do the 'girliething'...but act accordingly.

Thread initiated with words like 'virgin' 'first time'..coupled with 'biker chick aspirations' and 'resale value' for gifts....sign of the times I guess, but very embarrassing none the less."

Because I can't be feminine and ride a motorcycle? Perhaps you should step into the modern era, Clint: These days, both women and men get to be what they want. You and I can both be feminine bikers, or macho construction workers, or manly accountants, or prissy chefs. Pretty much, the rules are ours to make up. Join me here: It's a good place to be.

And a heck of a lot better than "act accordingly". thumbup.gif
Clint
QUOTE (debby @ Apr 15 2007, 03:50 PM) *
Clint,
"This thread is quite embarrassing for me as an male/human. Starting with a post from Debbie using words as first time and virgin as a lure for all you suckers (and then jumping on ArcticRider when he is only following the initiated path)... pffft, suckers. "

You should have put a "blushing" emoticon blushing.gif after your "embarrassing" line; it would draw more attention to it. You see, Clint, that's how advertizing works: You add a zing to an otherwise ordinary thing. Kind of like what I did with my original post.

I needed help with my computer, and with 9,000 nLite topics to choose from, I wanted to make sure that people saw mine.

I even apologized in my original post for using the provocative language, and explained that it was for the zing factor.

And while it may embarrass you as a man/human that all these "suckers" fell for the topic, YOU took the time to read through it as well. See how well advertizing works? thumbup.gif

As for ArcticRider, I think that his comments were funny and in the spirit of the game. I responded to them in that vain. Others thought he was out of line, but I was perfectly OK with it.


Clint,
"...not fun at all.
The talk about 'resale value' for a gift and choosing the diamonds really puts me off..."

Well, Clint, I got a huge pile of steaming cow pies for you. It's a gift. You must cherish it always, because it's a gift. Hopefully this illustrates the valuable lesson: Not all things are worth the same to all people.

When I give a gift, it's to bestow upon someone something that they want, not something I want for them, because they may not value it as I do. If it's something they want, I know they'll value it.

In the Diamonds vs. Big Screen, choice, I don't really want either. I want a Monster Dark. If stuck with either the diamonds or big screen, I suppose I'd take the TV: At least it has some utility value.

As for putting you off, I guess you'd better find a girl (or guy, depending on your preference) who has exactly the same taste in things as you, lest you be disapointed with their disapointment.


"Stay on the bike girl, or do the 'girliething'...but act accordingly.

Thread initiated with words like 'virgin' 'first time'..coupled with 'biker chick aspirations' and 'resale value' for gifts....sign of the times I guess, but very embarrassing none the less."

Because I can't be feminine and ride a motorcycle? Perhaps you should step into the modern era, Clint: These days, both women and men get to be what they want. You and I can both be feminine bikers, or macho construction workers, or manly accountants, or prissy chefs. Pretty much, the rules are ours to make up. Join me here: It's a good place to be.

And a heck of a lot better than "act accordingly". thumbup.gif


I'm glad you consider ArcticRiders post in the spirit of the game, kinda got me started that he got bashed even though you also were 'playing the sexy tune' for attention.

I still can't cope with the fact that you use the classic baits as 'virgin' 'first time' ...and then discussing on resale value on gifts...something about it that I'm having a hard time digesting.

But hey, I'm old (42) and prolly out of fasion. newwink.gif
bledd
you were pretty mean in 'Unforgiven' biggrin.gif
ArcticRider
Wow you bake cookies, motorcycle and use nlite! Can you vaccum also? tongue.gif
GrofLuigi
Woot, will there be marriage proposals coming up?! smile.gif

But what I wanted to say, diamonds can be really bad choice for resale if not for other reasons.

GL
piXelatedEmpire
wow this thread is bonkers wacko.gif

What's nLite? rolleyes.gif
debby
Clint,
"But hey, I'm old (42) and prolly out of fasion. "

Let's see; counting backwards, carry the 3... Looks like you're a child of the 80's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't even the straight guys wear as much make-up as the girls back then? If your fashion sense was developed about that time, I'd think you'd be used to the "I am what I am" concept. newwink.gif

ArcticRider,
"Wow you bake cookies, motorcycle and use nlite! Can you vaccum also? "

No, but I can sure mop the floor with you. yes.gif

Arctic, babe: You're making this too easy. You gotta stop handing me the straight lines, I'm killin' you here. newwink.gif

Empire,
"wow this thread is bonkers

What's nLite? "

It's you guys getting nLite(ened) by a paintballing feminine biker chick who bakes (and sews). woot.gif
mark
@debby-Grats on getting a good disk done and since you don't appear to have introduced yourself in the "Introduce Yourself" forum: Welcome to MSFN!

@bledd- good job.

I appreciate debby's effort here from the human point of view.

DL
Idontwantspam
Debby, you might want to use the quote box. It gets hard to follow what's you saying something and what's someone being quoted. Look at the bottom of every post. There's a two quote buttons. One will open a new reply with the post already quoted, the other will add the quote to your quote list and when you hit reply at the bottom, add all the quotes you "added up" to the message. Just a tip! newwink.gif

QUOTE
Example quote. Quotes look like this. See how much easier it is to distinguish from the text?
MAVERICKS CHOICE
QUOTE (ArcticRider @ Apr 16 2007, 07:37 AM) *
Wow you bake cookies, motorcycle and use nlite! Can you vaccum also? tongue.gif


Don't cha mean a boat with a good motor & the ability to clean fish? No I didn't mention cook as well...
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