john2007
Oct 16 2007, 09:59 AM
BigRandalo you can stop with the
http://updatepack.nl/nero-7-lite/ i know about that if you do go over a url to a download you will see
http://updatepack.nl/nero_lite/Nero-7.10.1...nglish_lite.exe if you take the 1st hafe off Nero-7.10.1.2_english_lite.exe then your left with
http://updatepack.nl/nero_lite/ when you use to enter that in your browser you use to be a boule to see the list of things the SDK's and stuff Acheron knows what im talking about also a few others to so stop with the
http://updatepack.nl/nero-7-lite/ way cuz i all ready know about that and thats not what im talking about thanks
BigRandalo
Oct 16 2007, 11:24 AM
brrr, calm down! i will stop...
i was not aware of that page but it clearly has been removed (and i am sure you will know when it's back, even fast then i'll do)
... i just wanted to help and didn't get the point of what you were talking about, but i am sure acheron had his reason :x
QUOTE
i've been getting error 404 as well. it's not wrong url, but the main
http://updatepack.nl is not reachable
and this was the reason i posted a second time because site is up!

anyways, have a nice day and be sure i did not want to attack someone in here
OuTmAn
Oct 16 2007, 05:30 PM
Hi,
In my custom Nero install, I'd to remove "Nero Express" icon and 2 help icons from the Nero Burning ROM toolbar
I know that setting is stored in the Registry, but the toolbar layout is saved in a very complicated way... (and also completely crappy but it should be due to the GUI framework layer... that settings are even linked to the language used o_O)
anyway, does someone know how I could implement this setting into my install ? I use batch file so reg editing is okay
amitri
Oct 17 2007, 08:58 PM
CODE
;!@Install@!UTF-8!
GUIMode="2"
RunProgram="Nero.exe /SP /VERYSILENT /SERIAL=**************************** /TYPE=compact /NORESTART"
;!@InstallEnd@!
This one works with Micro 7.10.1.2 on both XP and Vista for me, so great work Acheron.
7zip updated tutorial is
here.
OuTmAn
Oct 17 2007, 10:38 PM
what is this "/SP" switch that everybody (except me

) use ?
BigRandalo
Oct 18 2007, 06:08 AM
QUOTE
/SP-
Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt at the beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.
Acheron
Oct 21 2007, 12:14 PM
Here is a status report about Nero 8 Lite:
I have rewritten the autoit script to support newest Nero ControlCenter tool, so activating will work fine. The next version of Nero 8 Lite will also include the VC++2005 redist files and Windows Installer version detection, as Nero 8 Lite will require Windows Installer 3 to be installed first.
The release of Nero 8 Lite is planned for somewhere later this week.
eirogge
Oct 21 2007, 01:30 PM
Great news about Nero 8 Lite. Keep up the good work!
provolino
Oct 22 2007, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (Acheron @ Oct 21 2007, 08:14 PM)

Here is a status report about Nero 8 Lite:
I have rewritten the autoit script to support newest Nero ControlCenter tool, so activating will work fine. The next version of Nero 8 Lite will also include the VC++2005 redist files and Windows Installer version detection, as Nero 8 Lite will require Windows Installer 3 to be installed first.
The release of Nero 8 Lite is planned for somewhere later this week.
Great news
cybpsych
Oct 23 2007, 04:15 AM
Inno Setup v5.2.2 is available.
CODE
http://files.jrsoftware.org/is/5/isetup-5.2.2.exe
QUOTE
:: The Setup loader now extracts the Setup program executable file with a ".tmp" extension. Versions 5.2.0 and 5.2.1 used a ".exe.tmp" extension, which reportedly, in some cases, caused an "Unable to execute file in temporary directory" error message on systems with a certain antivirus program installed. We were unable to reproduce the error in our own tests, however; it is suspected that this may have only impacted users with custom filename blocking rules defined in their antivirus configuration.
:: Pascal Scripting: Added new GetSaveFileName support function.
:: Fix: The compiler could fail with an "Out of memory" error on script files containing more than ~100,000 lines, due to a heap fragmentation issue.
Acheron
Oct 23 2007, 10:15 AM
Luckily the current script is less than 100.000 lines in code, but thanks for noticing the new version
john2007
Oct 23 2007, 10:23 AM
Acheron, VC++2005 redist

you mean you will have to have the .net Framework on your pc i will never install that on my pc y are you changing installers anyways i like the IsTools installer the best i don't even have sp1 or sp2 on my Windows XP 2 also on Windows 2000
also Acheron how come you ignored what i typed on the other page
Acheron
Oct 23 2007, 11:04 AM
QUOTE (john2007 @ Oct 23 2007, 06:23 PM)

Acheron, VC++2005 redist

you mean you will have to have the .net Framework on your pc i will never install that on my pc y are you changing installers anyways i like the IsTools installer the best i don't even have sp1 or sp2 on my Windows XP 2 also on Windows 2000
also Acheron how come you ignored what i typed on the other page

VC++ 2005 Redist doesn't depend on .NET. However it does require Windows Installer 3, which you can find
here.
As including also Windows Installer 3.0 is making Nero Lite even more bigger, while most users won't need to install it anyway (Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista).
A new SDK will be released after I bring out Nero 8 Lite.
john2007
Oct 23 2007, 11:22 AM
don't have Windows XP SP2 i only got the 1st Windows XP Pro when it 1st came out no sp1 or no sp2 installed also on my other pc Windows 2000 , now your saying when you release The Nero Lite 8 your going to release the new SDK fore it but is it going to be the same done with IsTools as thats all i know how to use the installer or make a installer with IsTools , also Windows Installer 3 i don't think you can install it for Windows 2000 ? man just keep with the IsTools Installer its nice and good also where can we download the SDK's at seeing as you put a filter thing in your scrip so we cant get to the part to download as i was talking about on the other page
NaDer_GenKO
Oct 23 2007, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (NaDer_GenKO @ Oct 1 2007, 05:10 AM)

Thanks Acheron for Nero 7 Lite
and i have One question "How i can include
Nero ImageDrive to this Package ? " Please
Edit : please Acheron replay to me.
did you see this post ?There is any one can help me to install 'Nero ImageDrive' silently ??
Or any way to include it in Nero 7 lite (better)
thanks
john2007
Oct 25 2007, 09:54 AM
NaDer_GenKO are you trying to make Nero Lite bigger

we are trying to make it smaller
NaDer_GenKO
Oct 26 2007, 12:52 PM
QUOTE (john2007 @ Oct 25 2007, 05:54 PM)

NaDer_GenKO are you trying to make Nero Lite bigger

we are trying to make it smaller

Thank you for Response
No this is not my target (make it bigger). you misunderstand me
'Nero ImageDrive' it's very nice program can mount two cd images in same time by create two virtual Drive
just i need to install it because i use it too much
and i need to find a way to include/install it .
I hope you Help me at this.
Acheron
Oct 26 2007, 01:52 PM
STATUS REPORT NERO 8 Lite
I have been spending some time doing resource optimisations. Resource optimisations will be done also for Lite builds, otherwise Nero Lite would become 60 MB or more in size.
provolino
Oct 27 2007, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (Acheron @ Oct 26 2007, 09:52 PM)

STATUS REPORT NERO 8 Lite
I have been spending some time doing resource optimisations. Resource optimisations will be done also for Lite builds, otherwise Nero Lite would become 60 MB or more in size.
I will bring out a Micro build as beta first since major changes are made. This one is trimmed down to 18.5 MB (English only) setup size.
john2007
Oct 27 2007, 12:46 PM
Acheron 60 MB's WHATTTTTTTTT if you go to Nero.com if you download Nero 8 its 178 MB same as Nero 7 and Nero 7 Lite is 37 MB it should be the same OMG y are you keep adding more 60 MBs is way to much for my likening

also Nero 7 Micro is 15.9 MB and your adding more to it from the sounds of it on Nero Micro 8 to be 18.5 MB
Acheron
Oct 27 2007, 01:52 PM
I just want to say Nero 8 doesn't compress very well. I have completed work on resource optimisations for both Nero 8 Micro English and European, so I can predict final filesize now:
Nero 8 Micro English: 18.1 MB
Nero 8 Micro European: 22.8 MB
I still have to do more work on Nero 8 Lite, but filesize should not be much larger than Nero 7 Lite releases.
NaDer_GenKO
Oct 27 2007, 02:04 PM
Hi, Acheron
Why you dont try helping me ?!
Please tell me how to install Nero Image Drive with Nero lite
provolino
Oct 27 2007, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (Acheron @ Oct 27 2007, 09:52 PM)

I just want to say Nero 8 doesn't compress very well. I have completed work on resource optimisations for both Nero 8 Micro English and European, so I can predict final filesize now:
Nero 8 Micro English: 18.1 MB
Nero 8 Micro European: 22.8 MB
I still have to do more work on Nero 8 Lite, but filesize should not be much larger than Nero 7 Lite releases.
Don't worry Acheron, I think that file size is not a problem (most of forum users use DSL connections so don't care to download 30/40 or 50MB, it's just a matter of minutes).
The best feature of your Lite/Micro packages is that they don't install in your system all the crap included in the official Nero installer (it installs crap even if you uncheck all the option and select Nero Burning Rom only)
QUOTE (NaDer_GenKO @ Oct 27 2007, 10:04 PM)

Hi, Acheron
Why you dont try helping me ?!
Please tell me how to install Nero Image Drive with Nero lite
Try DaemonTools, it's better
Lusitano
Oct 27 2007, 05:21 PM
Also if Acheron use NSIS instead of Inno it would generate smaller installer. NSI has a smaller overhead and the LZMA solid compression its better.
Acheron
Oct 28 2007, 01:41 PM
I'm sorry but I need some more time to fix some dependancy problems (VideoCD support/ Nero Digital Encoding). However Windows Vista tests seems not to cause any big problems yet and also activation does work on that platform. So to speed things a bit up I will skip public beta testing and go release final versions when these minor problems are fixed.
cyberloner
Oct 28 2007, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Lusitano @ Oct 27 2007, 05:21 PM)

Also if Acheron use NSIS instead of Inno it would generate smaller installer. NSI has a smaller overhead and the LZMA solid compression its better.
nsis is harder than inno....
but inno compression doesn't loss to nsis compression .. correct me if wrong... =P
acheron keep up bro !
Lusitano
Oct 29 2007, 11:45 AM
Yes, NSIS is more complicated than Inno, but it supports solid mode for LZMA, and AFAIK Inno doesn't.
mara-
Oct 29 2007, 01:11 PM
QUOTE (Lusitano @ Oct 29 2007, 06:45 PM)

Yes, NSIS is more complicated than Inno, but it supports solid mode for LZMA, and AFAIK Inno doesn't.
You are totaly wrong!
From inno page:
QUOTE
Includes integrated support for "deflate", bzip2, and 7-Zip LZMA file compression.
QUOTE
Added support for solid compression, controlled via the new [Setup] section directive SolidCompression. This causes all files to be compressed at once instead of separately. This can result a much greater overall compression ratio if your installation contains many files with common content, such as text files.
Please read the full description in the help file before using this feature; don't just blindly enable it or you may be in for some surprises.
First inform yourself and then talk!
Cheers
Lusitano
Oct 30 2007, 05:29 AM
I'm sorry, I'm a little outdated about Inno. Some time ago it wouldn't support solid mode for LZMA. But still, NSIS generates lesser overhead than Inno (in my tests), but that's just a mater of kilobytes, no great drama.
Acheron
Oct 30 2007, 04:52 PM
I have completed resource optimizations for Nero 8 Lite now. This was a lot of work.
I have also fixed the problems I earlier reported.
Furthermore I have removed some component options to clean up the component selection window a bit. These components are not removed, they are now indeed installed by default.
Another change is that Turkish language will be moved from European to Asian package, so Asian package will contain the following languages now:
Chinese Trad/Simpl, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Russian and Turkish.
Thanks for all support.
P.S. Nero 8 Lite will be 39.5 MB, Nero 8 Micro 19.0 MB for English Language. Releases are planned for tomorrow, both Lite and Micro builds for all languages.
OuTmAn
Oct 30 2007, 07:05 PM
looks amazing

what exactly are these resource optimizations?
and which are these components installed by default?
coucou
Oct 31 2007, 08:09 AM
Wowwww... Fantastic Acheron....
There are a Good news
Hope we enjoy very soon
Bravo
coucou
provolino
Oct 31 2007, 12:42 PM
Really thanks Acheron
Acheron
Oct 31 2007, 03:26 PM
Nero 8.1.1.0 Lite and Micro
- Upgraded components to Nero 8
- Resource optimizations and general cleanup
- Turkish language moved to Asian package
Available at
updatepack.nl Lusitano
Oct 31 2007, 05:14 PM
Thank you Acheron. Seems to work just fine (at least Lite build). Did you used version 8.1.1.0b?
ricktendo64
Nov 1 2007, 12:19 AM
Nero 8 Lite/Micro DiscCopy Gadget AddOn v1.1.102.0Info: For use with Nero 8
"Lite" or
"Micro" by
Acheron
Alex
Nov 1 2007, 03:00 AM
Hi Acheron,
I see You online, could You upload nero sdk files and micromizer?
Or You are are not planning to do this at all?
Maybe You could sent it by mail for trustworhy users?
What would be great!
Thank You,
Alex
Alex
Nov 1 2007, 03:11 AM
cover designer is installed but i can not see it from nero express or burning rom. This is by new design?
Alex
coucou
Nov 1 2007, 04:19 AM
TNX Acheron
I'll give a try
BTW, do the silent switches works ad for nero 7?
CODE
nero-8.1.1.0_europe_lite.exe /VERYSILENT /SP- /SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
Regards
coucou
john2007
Nov 2 2007, 07:54 AM
Acheron wheres the SDK at for 7 and 8 at
provolino
Nov 2 2007, 10:19 AM
QUOTE (Acheron @ Oct 31 2007, 10:26 PM)

Nero 8.1.1.0 Lite and Micro
- Upgraded components to Nero 8
- Resource optimizations and general cleanup
- Turkish language moved to Asian package
Available at
updatepack.nlThanks a lot

One little question:
is the "MissingFilesState" fix still needed or Nero 8 is different?
If it's needed, is it possible to have it included directly in the installer (I mean that Nero Lite/Micro installer automatically create the "MissingFilesState" value in the registry as last step before finish)
Gorki
Nov 2 2007, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (coucou @ Nov 1 2007, 11:19 AM)

CODE
nero-8.1.1.0_europe_lite.exe /VERYSILENT /SP- /SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
I did not manage to find any Switch that could register lite version... I tred this one also,but no luck...?
Stribas
Nov 2 2007, 02:52 PM
QUOTE (Gorki @ Nov 2 2007, 08:25 PM)

QUOTE (coucou @ Nov 1 2007, 11:19 AM)

CODE
nero-8.1.1.0_europe_lite.exe /VERYSILENT /SP- /SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
I did not manage to find any Switch that could register lite version... I tred this one also,but no luck...?

it's working
ajua
Nov 3 2007, 04:16 AM
which are the components in Nero 8 Lite so i an skip installation of wave editor?
thanks.
Inferi0r
Nov 3 2007, 04:40 AM
Nero 8 Lite European mirror is down, thanks anyway.
Same question as elajua... which components switches are possible?
pyroraptor
Nov 3 2007, 04:51 AM
When I try to install Nero Micro 8.1.1.0, I get this error message. Any suggestions? (screenshot attached)
Acheron
Nov 3 2007, 05:08 AM
pyroraptor, it is possible that your VC2005 Redist installation is corrupt. Try manually installing the VC Redist from
here.
If that also doesn't work you have to uninstall the VC2005 Redist from your system ( goto Config panel -> Software) first. If that also fails you have to use the
Microsoft Windows Installer Cleanup utility@inferior, I have hotlink protection on my site, so other sites can't link to the files directly. Please check your download manager if it supports referrer links
@john2007, I'm not releasing the SDK yet. I have decided to bring out SDK delayed by at least one week, so I can eventually fix bugs reported (so far none yet) in released version and to prevent other people from bringing out concurrent (warez) builds at the same time I release new versions.
@lusitano, I have used the latest files from 8.1.1.0b release.
pyroraptor
Nov 3 2007, 06:04 AM
Acheron, none of those worked. Additionally, I'm now getting the following message when I click Stop after I get the initial error message. Any other suggestions?
john2007
Nov 3 2007, 06:47 AM
k sounds good Acheron Thanks keep up the good work are you still working on making it smaller ?
pyroraptor
Nov 3 2007, 07:01 AM
BTW, I happen to have the problem only with 8.1.1.0 Lite/Micro. 7.10.1.2 Lite/Micro runs and installs just fine.
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