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belivakov
QUOTE (Acheron @ Aug 14 2007, 09:27 PM) *
Nero 8 Lite and Micro 8.2.8.0

What's this about?


Nero 8 Lite is an custom created installer for the main Nero Burning Rom applications.
It also comes with unattended switches to make it install silently

Why don't you use Nero 8?


Nero 8 has become bloatware and it's difficult to make the setup program install silently. Also by default Nero installs a lot of DirectShow filters which may interfere with my video recording software.

Why not use another burning program?

When it comes to burning Nero does have an intuitive user interface, has proven stability and compatibility with most burners. It may even supports burning HD-DVD and BlueRay, and it can print Labelflash cd's.
But face it, there are other free cd burning applications in development which are making progress.
If you want a free burning program I can recommend ImgBurn. Its user interface is not exactly like Nero, but it will do all burning tasks just fine.
Recently a new project got my attention: InfraRecorder. InfraRecorder is open source, lightweight and the interface works just like Nero. Although it looks nice, it is not very stable yet.

Do I loose functionality when switching to Nero 8 Lite?

I try to keep Nero 8 functionality as complete as possible, so definitely usability over space. Of course I do remove a lot of stuff, but none of these is essential for burning plain cd's. If you ran into a problem, don't be shy to post.
Micro version is for people who only want a full functional Nero Burning ROM version, but without any extra software like CoverDesigner and WaveEditor.

Where can I download Nero 8 Lite?

http://updatepack.nl

Are there any known Issues:
Nero 8:
Some people experience some activation issues with latest version. Entering your serial again using the Nero ControlCenter might fix the problem!

Nero 7:
Manually entering a serial with Nero ProductSetup Tool after installation might cause the More features available prompt.
Use Click to view attachment to disable this message.

Are there any custom unattended switches?

Generally, look up Inno Setup documentation to read about commandline switches. The following list contains switches most used in unattended setup scripts

/SILENT
If a reboot is needed Setup will ask you.

/VERYSILENT
Automatic reboot without asking.

/NORESTART
No reboot, even if necessary.

/USER="UserName"
Specifies User Name

/COMPANY="MyCompany"
Specifies Company Name

/SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
Specifies Serial Number

/TYPE="SetupType"
Specifies Setup Type. Enter compact and only Nero Burning Rom will be installed.

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belivakov
QUOTE (Acheron @ Aug 14 2007, 09:27 PM) *
Nero 8 Lite and Micro 8.2.8.0

What's this about?


Nero 8 Lite is an custom created installer for the main Nero Burning Rom applications.
It also comes with unattended switches to make it install silently

Why don't you use Nero 8?


Nero 8 has become bloatware and it's difficult to make the setup program install silently. Also by default Nero installs a lot of DirectShow filters which may interfere with my video recording software.

Why not use another burning program?

When it comes to burning Nero does have an intuitive user interface, has proven stability and compatibility with most burners. It may even supports burning HD-DVD and BlueRay, and it can print Labelflash cd's.
But face it, there are other free cd burning applications in development which are making progress.
If you want a free burning program I can recommend ImgBurn. Its user interface is not exactly like Nero, but it will do all burning tasks just fine.
Recently a new project got my attention: InfraRecorder. InfraRecorder is open source, lightweight and the interface works just like Nero. Although it looks nice, it is not very stable yet.

Do I loose functionality when switching to Nero 8 Lite?

I try to keep Nero 8 functionality as complete as possible, so definitely usability over space. Of course I do remove a lot of stuff, but none of these is essential for burning plain cd's. If you ran into a problem, don't be shy to post.
Micro version is for people who only want a full functional Nero Burning ROM version, but without any extra software like CoverDesigner and WaveEditor.

Where can I download Nero 8 Lite?

http://updatepack.nl

Are there any known Issues:
Nero 8:
Some people experience some activation issues with latest version. Entering your serial again using the Nero ControlCenter might fix the problem!

Nero 7:
Manually entering a serial with Nero ProductSetup Tool after installation might cause the More features available prompt.
Use Click to view attachment to disable this message.

Are there any custom unattended switches?

Generally, look up Inno Setup documentation to read about commandline switches. The following list contains switches most used in unattended setup scripts

/SILENT
If a reboot is needed Setup will ask you.

/VERYSILENT
Automatic reboot without asking.

/NORESTART
No reboot, even if necessary.

/USER="UserName"
Specifies User Name

/COMPANY="MyCompany"
Specifies Company Name

/SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
Specifies Serial Number

/TYPE="SetupType"
Specifies Setup Type. Enter compact and only Nero Burning Rom will be installed.

Can You specify "SetupType" words for using with /TYPE switch?
Acheron
QUOTE (cybpsych @ Feb 5 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Acheron,

With build 1.15.0.2, I am experiencing DLL registration problem on my Vista Business & Ultimate workstations (please see attached screenshot of the error box).

Problem exist on clean install and install-over previous build.

Ignoring the msg poses no problem thereafter. Burning of DVDR still functional. Other features not used newwink.gif


You can ignore the message for now. It appears that I did not set the right flags for that file. Will be fixed for next build. I have also uploaded new asian builds, there was some issue with Nero ControlCenter Help (not critical).
cybpsych
glad to hear from you! Thanks!
chris970
Thank you so much for the update, Acheron smile.gif

I'll test it soon & post if I still experience the same problems


chris


EDIT: Same problems..... serial and Wave Editor.....
MtK
Sorry for this newbies question, but:
Where can I find the feature list for each package (list of what each contains)?
radix
QUOTE (MtK @ Feb 6 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Sorry for this newbies question, but:
Where can I find the feature list for each package (list of what each contains)?

Start the installation for each package (micro and lite) and you will find the answer.
MtK
QUOTE (radix @ Feb 6 2008, 01:27 PM) *
QUOTE (MtK @ Feb 6 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Sorry for this newbies question, but:
Where can I find the feature list for each package (list of what each contains)?

Start the installation for each package (micro and lite) and you will find the answer.

I figured that.
Why isn't a place to read before download, so users could decide what's best for them...
ZileXa
Hey Acheron, I deleted my Nero lite recently, thought it was time to download a new version. I wish I didn't delete the file, since the newest Nero Lite is 50 MB !
I like Micro, just also want Mausau, Coverdesigner and Nero Express... can't believe that's a 50mb extra!
How come the big difference? Not so Lite... OK it is very Lite compared to full Nero, but then it can grow to 300mb and you can still call it lite.
Acheron
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Feb 7 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Hey Acheron, I deleted my Nero lite recently, thought it was time to download a new version. I wish I didn't delete the file, since the newest Nero Lite is 50 MB !
I like Micro, just also want Mausau, Coverdesigner and Nero Express... can't believe that's a 50mb extra!
How come the big difference? Not so Lite... OK it is very Lite compared to full Nero, but then it can grow to 300mb and you can still call it lite.


The grow in size is caused by two things:

1. Nero 8 is bigger.
2. I have bundled more languages together to save development time.
ZileXa
Ok well ofcourse I understand your 2nd point. The first one well duh, don't understand why Nero is growing massively. My whole WinXP+software etc isn't as big as nero full install.

So I just tried unpacking Nero lite (innounp.exe) to get to the inno script file. Goal was modifying the script and recompiling. Unfortunately, innounp cannot unpack. Perhaps bevause you are using the newest version of Inno Setup (5.2.1) and the unpacker can handle only 5.1.1.0. But I was wondering if you are using encryption? Since then I won't be able to extract it when a new innounp.exe comes out (if that will happen in the near future..)

btw, I now installed InfraRecorder (= Free & Nero-like interface!) , didn't burn anything yet, last time I tried (almost year ago) it still seemed a bit buggy. If nero lite takes to much time and InfraRecorder is OK I might stick with that...

Just wanted everyone to know... there is a <5MB alternative wich might be as functional and easy-to-use as Nero Lite smile.gif
Acheron
I know of InfraRecorder, which is a great alternative in about 1-2 years I guess for Nero. Until then Nero Lite suits me best. I only develop Nero Lite for myself in the first place. To share some of my work I release by time Nero Lite SDKs you could use. If the size is a big issue for you then try looking for some other alternative versions of Nero, but be warned some functionality will be lost.
Nighted
InfraRecorder has great GUI design. Too bad the inner working of the software is crap. Multisession is an immense pain in the a** and the reliability is far below par. Garbage.
ZileXa
Yep you are right about infra.. too bad. Think i'll switch to nero micro. I suppose it has Nerotools and Nero Express? I'll only miss Coverdesigner & have to integrate Mausau plugins manually.


EDIT: Switched to Nero Micro, unfortunately no NeroTools!
Luckily they are freely and legally available for download:
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/download.html
And this the working link for InfoTool: http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-infotools.html

Unfortunately, I can't find all of Mausau's Plugins, not all of them are available on the official site:
http://www.bitburners.com/nero-audio-plugins/

Does anyone have a link to the (recent versions of) RealMedia / RealAudio?
Nighted
You guys might want to try JetBee FREE. As far as I can tell, it's not crippled in any way from the registered version. It has no nags that I've noticed either. The only difference I can tell is that is says "FREE" on the titlebar. The fact that it supports multisession is a big bonus. I also think it's portable like it's sister app Convex Evolution. JetBee has the features I need in Nero at only ~100KB size difference from ImgBurn.


Some features:

burn data cd and dvd from files and folders

burn data cd and dvd from iso image files

burn data cd and dvd in UDF format

burn multisession cd and dvd discs

create and burn bootable cd and dvd discs

burn data cd and dvd discs from Alcohol mds image files

erase rewritable cd and dvd discs

burn audio cd discs with from wav, mp3, wma and ogg files

burn audio cd with cd-text

burn dvd video discs from dvd media content of higher compatibility with hardware dvd players

burn VideoCD and SuperVideoCD discs

verify cd and dvd discs after burning

copy data, audio, video cd and dvd discs

raw cd copying

create iso image files both from files, folders, cd and dvd drives and dvd media content

create Alcohol mds image files from cd and dvd discs

rip audio files from audio cd

save track (one or more) from cd/dvd disc

burn cd and dvd discs without administrative rights under 2000/XP/Vista with our StarOpen driver. This driver provides CD/DVD access for any user regardless of Security Policies.

Kelsenellenelvian
Alreght nighted we KNOW there are alternatives bit this is a thread about NERO, NOT a thread about alternatives. We are here becuase we like and want to use NERO so no more of that.

Plus that app has a 30 day trial limitation.
saulob
Nice one.. Nero FTW newwink.gif

But, btw, Acheron, i'm still wit the serial error, with the last update... just for information smile.gif

Thanks
Nighted
QUOTE (Kelsenellenelvian @ Feb 11 2008, 07:47 PM) *
Alreght nighted we KNOW there are alternatives bit this is a thread about NERO, NOT a thread about alternatives. We are here becuase we like and want to use NERO so no more of that.

Plus that app has a 30 day trial limitation.


Yes, you're right, it's off topic. By the way JetBee and JetBee FREE are 2 separate downloads. One is 30 day trial, the other is literally free.
oneless
same error here , on lite edition , on both packs [enu/euro]

tested on 2 computers [mine and other with a fresh XP install]

with [Ignore] the installation is finished [ok in my opinion] .

i used autoit for pack the installer [fileinstall]
i run silent the installer from autoit with parameters :
CODE
$parameters = " /SILENT /NORESTART /USER=Owner /COMPANY=Home /SERIAL=0000-0000-0000-0000-0000-0000-0000 /TYPE=SetupType"

the name+company+serial are registered ok.

i saw in an earlier post that NeroVMRmodules.dll was missing from the package in a previous version

now , the file exist at his location but can be registered ?!

something wrong in what i am doing here ?
Acheron
QUOTE (oneless @ Feb 12 2008, 11:43 AM) *
same error here , on lite edition , on both packs [enu/euro]

tested on 2 computers [mine and other with a fresh XP install]

with [Ignore] the installation is finished [ok in my opinion] .

i used autoit for pack the installer [fileinstall]
i run silent the installer from autoit with parameters :
CODE
$parameters = " /SILENT /NORESTART /USER=Owner /COMPANY=Home /SERIAL=0000-0000-0000-0000-0000-0000-0000 /TYPE=SetupType"

the name+company+serial are registered ok.

i saw in an earlier post that NeroVMRmodules.dll was missing from the package in a previous version

now , the file exist at his location but can be registered ?!

something wrong in what i am doing here ?


Is a known issue, will be fixed later this week. You can ignore the message for now. BTW in your commandline /TYPE should be either full or compact newwink.gif
ZileXa
Is the /TASKS="imagefile_assoc" switch still working or is this task now standard for Micro/Lite?
Same for /COMPONENTS. I assume this is switch not necessary for a full install of Micro, Audioplugins will be installed by default?
oneless
thank you Acheron , i will wait the new version.

please modify your first post here
QUOTE
/TYPE="SetupType"
Specifies Setup Type. Enter compact and only Nero Burning Rom will be installed.
i didnt find full as option for setuptype .
Acheron
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Feb 13 2008, 12:21 AM) *
Is the /TASKS="imagefile_assoc" switch still working or is this task now standard for Micro/Lite?
Same for /COMPONENTS. I assume this is switch not necessary for a full install of Micro, Audioplugins will be installed by default?


I think it is still necessary if you want to force Nero to associate with bin and iso files.

QUOTE (oneless @ Feb 13 2008, 08:32 AM) *
please modify your first post here
QUOTE
/TYPE="SetupType"
Specifies Setup Type. Enter compact and only Nero Burning Rom will be installed.
i didnt find full as option for setuptype .


By default a full installation is choosen. So if you want all components (except any additional languages) then it's not necessary to specify this commandline option.
rax369
Error when installing Nero 8 Lite v8.2.8.0 on Windows XP Pro x64:


After the error appeared I clicked over the button 'Ignore' and installation continue w/out problems until it finish.

So far I have not tested the application in any way, because I'm afraid to finish with bad burned media due the above error.

Do you know a way how to solve this issue so I could be able to reinstall the product ? shifty.gif

PD: I understand that Win XP Pro x64 is between the OSes supported by this application right ?
acetken
It keeps stopping working telling me it's an "illegal serial". It's not, I assure you. I got it with my new disc drive. Any ideas?
roirraW "edor" ehT
QUOTE (acetken @ Feb 14 2008, 11:44 PM) *
It keeps stopping working telling me it's an "illegal serial". It's not, I assure you. I got it with my new disc drive. Any ideas?


I could be wrong, but I believe the serial for the OEM editions of Nero (what you got with your drive) can't be applied to the retail version.
roirraW "edor" ehT
QUOTE (rax369 @ Feb 14 2008, 01:31 AM) *
Error when installing Nero 8 Lite v8.2.8.0 on Windows XP Pro x64:


After the error appeared I clicked over the button 'Ignore' and installation continue w/out problems until it finish.

So far I have not tested the application in any way, because I'm afraid to finish with bad burned media due the above error.

Do you know a way how to solve this issue so I could be able to reinstall the product ? shifty.gif

PD: I understand that Win XP Pro x64 is between the OSes supported by this application right ?


I haven't had any problems burning despite this issue. I believe they know about this issue and that it will be fixed soon.
Acheron
Upcoming is another minor bugfix release (note I'm still uploading the stuff now!):

Nero 8.2.8.0 build 1.15.0.3 changelog:
- fix dll register issue
- fixed MSI version detection
- upgraded SQLite to 3.56
- updated Anti-virus libs
acetken
Sweet! Thanks again for all your hard work, man. it's very much appreciated.

The OEM version should work just fine. The only feature I install is the base and the MauSau plugins, therefore it should be covered by an OEM install. Is it possible to disable the phone-home capabillity? Keep the serial check to keep it legal, but stop it from disabling itself?
Acheron
QUOTE (acetken @ Feb 16 2008, 08:28 PM) *
Sweet! Thanks again for all your hard work, man. it's very much appreciated.

The OEM version should work just fine. The only feature I install is the base and the MauSau plugins, therefore it should be covered by an OEM install. Is it possible to disable the phone-home capabillity? Keep the serial check to keep it legal, but stop it from disabling itself?


I'm not sure if this issue can be fixed. Some people also report this behaviour when using the full version. This problem started from version 8.2.8.0, but I did not alter the Nero Lite activation process.
Lets hope next Nero update will fix it.
ScOOt3r
QUOTE (rax369 @ Feb 14 2008, 12:31 AM) *
Error when installing Nero 8 Lite v8.2.8.0 on Windows XP Pro x64:


After the error appeared I clicked over the button 'Ignore' and installation continue w/out problems until it finish.

So far I have not tested the application in any way, because I'm afraid to finish with bad burned media due the above error.

Do you know a way how to solve this issue so I could be able to reinstall the product ? shifty.gif

PD: I understand that Win XP Pro x64 is between the OSes supported by this application right ?



I use x64 and it works fine with my version.. always has...

ScOOt34
SNNath
Hi Acheron

It would be a great idea if you could add your version no (1.15.0.x) to the files you upload to the site. With this we can know whether new versions are available and also which version we are installing and to report bugs/errors.

Also, could you upload the latest SDK (again with the version no, please).

Keep up the good work

Nath
oneless
where can i find a link to the new version 1.15.0.3 ?
[ still 1.15.0.2 link posted on updatepack.nl ]
Acheron
I'm uploading new builds to some FTP-server. However there were some problems when I tried uploading this weekend. Sorry for the delay confused.gif
ajua
please let us know when you are done uploading. it would be great if you posted the build info on your site so everyone can be sure which build they are downloading.

thanks.
acetken
Any word on the new revisions?
Acheron
Nero 8 Lite and Micro are now updated to build 1.15.0.3.

I have tried uploading the stuff to the FTP-server but I got timed out several times due to my low upload speed at home. I have contacted the site admin but I got no reply.
ScOOt3r
Thanks Acheron this works great as always....smile.gif


ScOOt3r!
Kelsenellenelvian
Thanks it works perfectly in a UA situation now!

P.S. Might wanna update your site a bit newwink.gif
dkrus
Thanks Acheron for updating this smile.gif
saulob
Thanks Acheron.

I'm downloading now... from the same spot, right ?

Is there any 'release log' ?

Btw,

QUOTE (Acheron @ Aug 14 2007, 04:27 PM) *
Nero 8:
Some people experience some activation issues with latest version. Entering your serial again using the Nero ControlCenter might fix the problem!


Worked for me biggrin.gif

No more activation issues thumbup.gif
nospoon
Is there anyway you can include the "Burn Rights" component in these Lite and Micro versions? If I try to run either install in a limited user account, it denies me access to use the program. huh.gif
amitri
QUOTE (nospoon @ Feb 25 2008, 02:47 AM) *
Is there anyway you can include the "Burn Rights" component in these Lite and Micro versions? If I try to run either install in a limited user account, it denies me access to use the program. huh.gif
Burn Rights seems to works OK in Nero Lite, just tried it with 1.15.0.3. Where is the problem?
nospoon
QUOTE (amitri @ Feb 24 2008, 09:11 PM) *
QUOTE (nospoon @ Feb 25 2008, 02:47 AM) *
Is there anyway you can include the "Burn Rights" component in these Lite and Micro versions? If I try to run either install in a limited user account, it denies me access to use the program. huh.gif
Burn Rights seems to works OK in Nero Lite, just tried it with 1.15.0.3. Where is the problem?

must be in an a couple old micro versions a while back, do you know if it works in the current micro version? I don't want to put my system thru the ringer by having to uninstall these burning programs then reinstalling it welcome.gif
Major
Hi Acheron.
installing nero 8.2.8.0 lite, i have seen that these commands do not work:
/Componens="Nero_Core/Nero_AudioPlugins" /Group="Nero 8"
The command i have used
Nero.8.2.8.0.Lite.exe /Silent /Components="Nero_Core,Nero_Core\Nero_AudioPlugins,Nero_Core\Nero_VideoCD,
Nero_Toolkit\Nero_InfoTool,Nero_Toolkit\Nero_DriveSpeed,Nero_Toolkit\Nero_DiscSpeed" /GROUP="Nero 8" /f

Thanks
amitri
@nospoon
BurnRights is included in Nero Toolkit with Nero Lite, not with Nero Micro. And yes, it works with current version, just burned a DVD with locked user.
sp00f
QUOTE (saulob @ Feb 24 2008, 04:16 PM) *
Thanks Acheron.

I'm downloading now... from the same spot, right ?

Is there any 'release log' ?

Btw,

QUOTE (Acheron @ Aug 14 2007, 04:27 PM) *
Nero 8:
Some people experience some activation issues with latest version. Entering your serial again using the Nero ControlCenter might fix the problem!


Worked for me biggrin.gif

No more activation issues thumbup.gif

Doesnt work for me
Any one has a mirror for older versions? the version before this one didnt have that problem
amitri
QUOTE
Any one has a mirror for older versions? the version before this one didnt have that problem
Try here
rseiler
Two questions:
1) I believe way back I saw some comments about WaveEditor crashing, though I can't be sure now. Is that a problem with this release or Nero itself? I notice the problem on Vista.
2) Anyone seeing copious Event 51's ("An error was detected on device \Device\CdRom0 during a paging operation.") when inserting (or accessing later with Explorer) blank media (ain't no paging going on with blank media, and it doesn't happen with written media)? I don't know if this is necessarily related to Nero or this release in particular, since I installed this not long after Vista.
crispyduck00
Hi,

what do I need to get nerocmd.exe with Nero 8.2.8.0 Lite working?

Hopefully someone knows the Answer!

Regards,
Andi




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