Nero Lite v7.11.10.0 & v8.3.6.0

What's this about?

Nero Lite is an custom created installer for the main Nero Burning Rom applications.
It also comes with unattended switches to make it install silently

Why don't you use Nero 7/8?

Nero 7/8 has become bloatware and it's difficult to make the setup program install silently. Also by default Nero installs a lot of DirectShow filters which may interfere with my video recording software.

Why not use another burning program?

When it comes to burning Nero does have an intuitive user interface, has proven stability and compatibility with most burners. It may even supports burning HD-DVD and BlueRay, and it can print Labelflash cd's.
But face it, there are other free cd burning applications in development which are making progress.
If you want a free burning program I can recommend ImgBurn. Its user interface is not exactly like Nero, but it will do all burning tasks just fine.
Recently a new project got my attention: InfraRecorder. InfraRecorder is open source, lightweight and the interface works just like Nero. Although it looks nice, it is not very stable yet.

Do I loose functionality when switching to Nero Lite?

I try to keep Nero Lite functionality as complete as possible, so definitely usability over space. Of course I do remove a lot of stuff, but none of these is essential for burning plain cd's. If you ran into a problem, don't be shy to post.
Micro version is for people who only want a full functional Nero Burning ROM version, but without any extra software like CoverDesigner and WaveEditor.

Where can I download Nero Lite?

http://updatepack.nl

Are there any known Issues:

Nero 7:
Manually entering a serial with Nero ProductSetup Tool after installation might cause the More features available prompt.
Use Click to view attachment to disable this message.

Are there any custom unattended switches?

Generally, look up Inno Setup documentation to read about commandline switches. The following list contains switches most used in unattended setup scripts

/SILENT
If a reboot is needed Setup will ask you.

/VERYSILENT
Automatic reboot without asking.

/NORESTART
No reboot, even if necessary.

/USER="UserName"
Specifies User Name

/COMPANY="MyCompany"
Specifies Company Name

/SERIAL="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
Specifies Serial Number

/TYPE="SetupType"
Specifies Setup Type. Enter compact and only Nero Burning Rom will be installed.

Installing Nero 7.10.1.0 Micro RC4 on Vista Ultimate:

1. It took many attempts to start the installer; I kept getting the following message:

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2. Eventually the installer started, I entered my details, accepted all default settings and all seemed to be well.

3. When I start the program I then get this message:

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If I click on 'Close' the program shuts down.
I then clicked on 'entering this serial number' and entered my number (I had already entered it on setup but it had not registered it)

4. I now get the following every time I start the program:

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If I click on 'Cancel' the program starts and works perfectly but I still get the popup every time I restart the program
If I click on 'update' it reports a download connection problem

5. I then uninstalled the program and ran setup as 'Demo' but had exactly the same problems as in 1. and when I entered my serial number in Nero ProductSetup the problems in part 2 & 3 started again.

Seems the setup does not like Vista

i think you mixed up the version in the title
it's 7.10.1.0 not 7.0.10.1

I assume you just mixed em up, too ^^
Actually it's 7.0.10.1 as the title reads

Current version: 7.10.1.0
Release Date: July 05, 2007


Maniaq is right

lite version works perfectly in winxp..
thanks bro

I have also noticed the acces violation error in Windows Vista. It just needs another fix then.

The upgrade prompt after manually entering the serial in Nero ProductSetup is a known issue and won't get fixed. You can workaround it by applying the famous regtweak.
The missingfilesstate regkey is always overwritten by the Nero ProductSetup tool, even if you modify the access rights to read-only.

Hi,

1.Starting install:



Used xpsp2 comp finally to start install

2. No runtime error! at the end of install

3. starting express:


4.Must start instalation otherwise it gets back to window above.


Funny!
5. Trying to unistall through setup :
get this:



6.Starting install again and what is here?


no quick launch option this time?



Ha ha..

it more like game for kids with unexpected effects!

What then?\
Looking into august 5 sdk files and...

simple stupid mistake with quick launch in registry!
comatibility tweaks tested on xp sp2 at best.
oh, and the activation! very complex but all illegal keys are working!

So my question is: why create all this crap?
IT DOES NOT WORK PZROPERLY! maybe on computers like Acheron? At it's best.

Can it be that You are paid by nero for all this trouble?
Tested german version on vista and I see it works perfectly, no needless poping up windows, no mistakes at all.

Why not to make the same ienglish version if You want to help users to get rid of ALL nero bloatware as You call it?

Alex

At first: thanks for reporting the bugs.


That's a lie. I had checked it.


Many people use software without problems, but don't report it works nice. Only some users are doing that. And as you at how many users reports bugs, not hundreds of.


Does he say it's perfect now? NO, he and we know it's not free from bugs now, but there are improvements by time. It's difficult work and he need us to test the software. (the configuration of Acheron's computer is not the the configuration of our computers).


You confer us good help? Give it by yourself!

Damnit! I ... I ... I'm sorry. My fault, just checked the title but not the post itself

Hi again,

Made instaler for my needs without all this theather of pop up windows.
Started using and so far found one bug, very annooying: see picture

No matter how many times I add files to compilation from any other folder, nero does NOT remember that and always offer to add files from c:\windows\system32.
Is that by new design or it is a bug? Can someone who can install from rc4 confirm that?
Tried to fix it through registry by changing path, but nero restores to c:\windows\system32 after every start. WTF?

With my previous version of Nero it was not the case.
Sorry, I am kinda perfectionist and hate those bugs!!!

Alex

Hi, Alex

You don't have to use Nero 7 Lite if you don't like it. It's not by purpose that some bugs still show up after several builds. If you look at the SDK you might notice I have added a lot of code just to speak to an MySQL database. As I have very limited knowledge about programming it took a while to get this far.

About Windows Vista:

I don't use it on my system, for anything else but testing in VmWare, so it's possible that I can't caught some bugs easily.

I totally forgot about the Quicklaunch icon in Windows Vista. I had that commented out because earlier versions of Inno Setup did put this icon in the Admin Quicklaunch folder, in stead of the Users. It's solved for next version.

It may take some time to get everything right, but I think of this as a much cleaner method than using old dlls or other hacks.

Great news, the invalid pointer / and Acces Violation bug is solved. By specifying to use long integer this bug wasn't that hard after all, but I was looking in wrong directions. Anyway I have learned a lot about pointers, dll calls etc so I don't think of it as wasted time.

If everything goes fine RC5 will get released tonight.

Ach,

Did an install on a clean XP machine. I just got the serial message again, and once again, I just hit "Cancel". Everything works on first run. No probs whatsoever.

I wish I could be more help, but for me it just works. Thx for all your hard work!!

Nero 7 Lite RC5 available!

This one has the Access Violation bug fixed. This was a true show stopper for getting to final version.

I need people to test for serial activation issues. When you enter your serial, does it get accepted or not, just anything. If you are not satisfied with latest version please tell me so hopefully it get fixed.

Alex, your odd filepath bug is new to me and I can't reproduce your error on Windows Vista. Could you please try RC-5?

RaGhul, please test latest RC5 version. If the problem still occurs can you exactly describe what problem you get. Is it the Update prompt or some other window?

No errors so far here, i will do some more test today.

Nice job

@Ach,

I just installed RC5 on top of RC4, left all the options (including serial number) untouched during installation. No probs at all. Just so you know, I only get the "Update" message on a clean install. Installing subsequent versions or RC's on top of it will no longer produce that message. I believe the regular Nero installer does the same thing, so as far as I'm concerned, it's perfect!

One small thing:
It's kinda nit-picky, but I know it will only take like 2 seconds for you to fix. I noticed that the QuickLaunch icon for NeroExpress is actually the icon for NeroBurningRom. It's so small in the QuickLaunch bar that it's hardly noticeable, but changing the ISS file should be very easy. No big whoop, I'm just mentioning it in case you overlooked it.

Great stuff, Ach!!

Hi,

Some remarks for Your notice,

1. ndaudio.dll version in your build is older then in nero orig.
2. one more reg string should be added to nero cover desighner for clean uninstall.
3. can you modify nerofiledialog.dlls (vistaone) so it could remeber the last add files directory. By nero design add files dir is nero7 (???), though in previous version, let' say 7.5.7.0 iit was not the case. Is it in xp as well that ad files in nero express is windows/system32/ directory?



Alex

Installing Nero 7.10.1.0 Micro RC5 on Vista Ultimate
Did a clean install and it worked perfectly for me.
Very good job Ach

7.10.1.0 Micro RC5 clean install of Burning Rom only - Vista Ultimate 32. Nice n' smooth, no issues here.

Thanks Acheron

Can someone post a short how-to use this SDK? I have not a clue.

I'm glad Nero 7 Lite actually seems stable now

Rahgul: Quicklaunch icon changed now. Thanks for report. About the Update prompt. Have you tried uninstalling Nero 7 Lite and reinstalling yet?

Alex: Thanks for noticing ndaudio wasn't updated. Also fixed CoverDesigner uninstall cleaning.

I think something is wrong with the Nero dll registering on your setup. On a clean installation you get a different input dialog window:



You might scan with dependency walker to see if there's a problem here. Try scanning all the NeroFileDialog.dll and ShellManager dlls after installation to see where the program lies.

vpn-user: I'll update SDK today.

Ahh, I was just waiting for a sentence like this. Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Some questions with this F>> Inno setup:
!1. Acheron, how to make "do not create start menu foder" box to be checked (see first image) NOT to remove creation of start menu folder from installer, but just to make it checked on install? Should be simple, but those things are always hard to figure out.
2. I took nerofiledialog.dll from earlier version, added 2 files and now everything is working as it should be. 7.10.1.0 default add files directory is desktop (yes), but it always stays desktop and does not remember last used directory from version 7.8.50. I checked them all. What is strange is how Your nerofile dialog looks like. Is the screen made on XP? It should be, cause on vista it looks like on sceernshot in my earlier post. Confirm that, ok? BTW, now my add screen looks like Yours!!! (see second screen), but it remembers last used dir!!!
3. Can not find the reg entry to force neroexpress start witn dvd5 option, not dvd9 (see second screen). Maybe I overlooked registry entry, can someone help? want to add to tweaks before compiling setup.

Alex

Hi Alex


I've also asked that here.

My Inno setups are always created with /NOICONS but I'm not sure of Acheron this also used.
Task and components switches are also visible when in the install_script.iss (by unpacking the Inno setup). But Acheron is using the latest Inno Compiler and the latest is still not supported by InnoUNP.

Acheron can you give the switches please?

Hi,

/NOICONS

I found that too, but where to add it in script? It only works with installer after compiling setup.

Alex

Other commands (not sure of all supported):


Here you see all the available components and tasks, but I'm not sure they all working anymore. They are a little outdated.

Hi,

[Tasks]
Name: desktopicon; Description: {cm:CreateDesktopIcon}; GroupDescription: {cm:AdditionalIcons}; Flags: unchecked; Components: nero_core\nero_express
Name: quicklaunchicon; Description: {cm:CreateQuickLaunchIcon}; GroupDescription: {cm:AdditionalIcons}; Flags: unchecked; Components: nero_core\nero_express; OnlyBelowVersion: 0,6.0
Name: imagefile_assoc; Description: {cm:AssocImageFileExt}; GroupDescription: {cm:FileAssociations}; Flags: unchecked; Components: nero_core

So how to add noicons to tasks?

Alex

I'm glad to see you back Acharon
Where can i find french version of RC5? Maybe it's not avalaible and you wait for the final release to include tranlation ?

Regards,
Kal

Oh Alex you mean for your own version. Sorry I was wrong reading. Just add this:


For automatically NOICONS must I take a look.

Thats exactly what it will be like. The localized versions will be available when the final comes out, I think.

@Inferi0r,

Thank You, would be nice if You could find out, cause I can not figure it out, but sure that this box checked in some app I used. But how???

Alex

Ok.

Waiting will be long

Thanks Acheron, works flawlessly XP Pro sp2; burns, erases, all DVD/CDROM +-RW I've thrown at it and ditto for labeling. Perfect!

Nice to see some people can actually use Nero 7 Lite now

I have uploaded a new SDK tonight, see http://updatepack.nl/nero_lite.

You might also try using the Inno one click installation I made, updating Inno Setup to use latest components.

Next release will be final, so no RC anymore!

Nice to hear, tha there will be final version.
Big thanks for making of Nero Lite

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Greetings from Poland

@ Acheron: Have there been any changes to the sqlite3.dll from the RC1 SDK to the RC6 SDK? The file isn't integrated in the RC6 SDK. Thank you for the new SDK, I will build a german Lite version today and let you know if everything works.

EDIT: Ok, i downloaded the latest sqlite3.dll from sqlite.org.

I still can't find any documentation inside . I wonder how most of you can actually use this thing without any hint?

A short list of what to do would do it...

I used your RC6 SDK to build the german Lite version and everything seems to work. Activation goes faster than in RC1. Thank you!!!

Works fine, now time for the Dutch version

I would like to build the french version.
Where do you find the files present in http://updatepack.nl/nero_lite/nero7_filelist.txt ?

I guess the SDK need these files to build nero lite...

Wonder if anyone can help me out with this. When I exit nero a nero.exe process remains in task manager until i manually kill it. Anyone else experience this or have a fix?

Thanks!

@vpn-user
Yeah, I know that the SDK may seem complicated, but it really isn't. The first thing you have to do is install the included programs using Acheron's batch files. Then, you basically just need to learn InnoSetup. There are forums with tutorials, but there are also tutorials inside the programs themselves. Just click the Help drop-down menu.

Hopefully, that can get you started.

@B1aze,
Actually, I HAVE noticed that myself. I don't know if Nero does this normally, since I haven't used the normal Nero 7 in the past year and a half.... maybe longer.

In fact, if you open and close Nero each time you make a disk (without restarting Windows), you'll see several Nero instances in Task Manager. On PC's without a lot of memory, I sometimes notice performance issues with other things (chiefly, videogames). I just go in manually and stop the processes.

@Ach,
Is this a natural function of Nero 7? Or is this just a symptom of shrinking Nero?
And... either way, is their a way to stop this from happening?

@RaGhul,

@B1aze,
Actually, I HAVE noticed that myself. I don't know if Nero does this normally, since I haven't used the normal Nero 7 in the past year and a half.... maybe longer.


made my own installer and nothing like that happens. Weird... Previous builds I used never left nero in processes after quiting prog as well.

Alex

Good to see the latest RC is running smooth.

Also, when you release the final version, can you upload it to RapidShare or more than one mirror, cause I can't seem to download the Lite or Micro version from those links. One says "Server is Disabled" and the other has the words "Download Link", but without a link.

for teh mihd.net mirror, have you tried clicking on "Request download link"? After doing so you should click "Download File" on the right-hand side and voila.

Call me stupid but I'm unable to use this thing. I can' t find a batch file for collecting all the needed files into bin dir. Staying with the released german v7.9.6.0 lite binary.

I can provide a french mirror (hosted by free.Fr) if you wish

I was doing that last night and it wasn't working. But I tried it again this morning and now it is working fine.

dying to see the final

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