Hi Tihiy

I finally reinstalled the 6.1 brows*.dlls so I could test UBS correctly...

One bug I've found in the latest version is that the clock tooltip doesn't pop up if the taskbar is locked...
unlocked, the tooltip shows up fine...

I'm running tclockEX... but the tooltip doesn't show even with tclockEX closed... the "normal" window's clock doesn't show it's tooltip either...

Thanks for the hard work .

Zoom it to 400% and compare height of green area. On the left UberSkin, right without it. On the left there is 1px black line below the green area.

Also I have found another serious bug - when you place an animating window behind another window some parts of the animation might be drawn on the covering window. I don't have screenshots at the moment and I won't be available until the end of the week, sorry.

Very impressive. After installing Uberskin, my free system resources actually increased by a percent.

A couple of issues spotted so far:

1. After rebooting, Uberskin fails to remember to skin the taskbar.
2. Codestuff Starter will not respond to exit requests unless its window is maximised.

My system: 98SE, Explorer 4.72.3612.1710, BROWSEUI 6.00.2800.1915, SESP2, Auto-patcher. No 98SE2ME/NUSB. ATI Mobility-M1 AGP 2x (8MB) card (old drivers to match: M6.12.12, e.g. 4.12), Intel 440BX mainboard.

Edit: please disregard 1. This behaviour was the (I guess correct) result of changing the desktop's background colour after having selected a theme, with the effect that the theme had been deselected in Display Properties "Scheme" dropdown menu.

3. Examine Differences shows pink in the top corners of the main window.
4. When 1 by 1 Player is toggled from Full to Compact view, its window becomes immovable (can't be dragged around the screen) and it loses its title bar.

@ bristols:

I've tested Codestuff Starter 5.6.2.8 and I think you might have got it the other way around: it crashes when maximized and exits cleanly when window is not in full screen. My error message (in statusbar) was:
Access violation at address 00404244 in module 'STARTER.EXE'. Read of address FFFFFFFC

Problem is, now it won't exit at all, either minimized or full screen, once the crash occured. I had to use WinTop to put Starter to sleep.

(happened with 8.1.7 - still didn't get to reboot the system for the newest build to kick in)

I can confirm the clock tooltip. Also doubleclicking on the tray to open time/date properties doesn't work anymore. I don't run Tclock. This must have been introduced in 8.1.9 or 8.1.10. (I only missed one of the latest updates ). They all worked fine for me. Stability seems to be improved, haven't seen weird explorer crashes anymore. But HJT stil looks the same. Buttons are ok and the program works fine, but the background is mainly purple where it should be boring grey.

@ Drugwash:

Yep, I get the same error message in Codestuff Starter, but it isn't always reproduced in the same way. It seems, at least, that the error always follows after the window has been maximised and then reduced.

Hmm hmm. I've tested it in the morning, it was ok. I'll test with latest public version and fix it if is broken.
There will be workaround in major version (i hope i'll obtain ATI card today). You can try to fix it yourself by editing skin images, replacing magenta with window background color.
Oh, btw, which color mode you're using?

This is kinda weird: I just tested Starter again (after a forced reboot caused by 0% resources ), it started minimized, I maximized it, played around clicking some items, scrolling, and on clicking the big EXIT button to the left of the toolbar, it left the scene cleanly - no crash. I didn't have the bal... uhm... the guts to repeat the test.

On another note, hidden taskbar behavior has been improved in 8.1.10, but there's still the problem with hovering taskbar buttons of open applications and the expander arrows areas in Quick Launch and custom toolbars. It also won't pop the bar if the custom toolbar's text is hovered, next to the arrows.

I wonder if docked custom toolbars could be skinned similar to the taskbar...

32bits colors on a Radeon 9600 pro. ATI driver version 5.9.
You mean editing skin images of uberskin itself? That will affect all apps. HJT is not worth that. I haven't seen this in any other software and as long nobody reports the same with a non-ATI card, perhaps it's not worth fixing at all.

So far you have done a great job anyway!

i have installed maximum decims generic USB drivers. they work perfectly and have not affected uberskin at all...

what makes me angry is that i have lost again a part of slovak localization

Here's something fun . It adds an option into the 'Visual' section of 'Folder Options' menu so you can toggle transparent backgrounds for your desktop icons. Granted, it doesn't come into effect until the desktop icons refresh, which would mean you'd notice the change when either you change a theme/visual setting/etc, after a reboot, or just randomly when the desktop icons are refreshed due to whatever.



To get rid of it:


[edit] The above is getting clipped. Should read [-HKEY...] etc, no linebreak. -but you probably already know that ;*)

philco had found that in localized windows must be registry with transparent icons done in other way. i still was unable to reproduce it..

Meanwhile, i've defeated a lot of high-level monsters with UberSkin!
Ultimate Release is imminent. However, no night releases!

Well, I've heard the hype and watched this topic since it was created, and I've finally decided to try UberSkin out for a spin.

The last skinning engine I used was LameSkin from the version of RP7 released just before 7.10, and I wanted to check out something less bloated and buggy than RP.

I must say, I'm impressed with all that UberSkin can do considering how little it changes my OS.

Anyways, I installed UberSkin on a Virtual Machine (MS Virtual PC 2007) with Win 98SE, Unoff. SP2.1a, and 98SE2ME installed.
All seems to work except one small problem.

Whenever I change themes, UberSkin breifly flashes the "un-skinned" look before apply the skin, just as LameSkin did.
However, all my desktop icons disappear in "skinned mode", and only show up for a brief "Un-skinned" moment when I change to another theme (and then go away again). When they're invisible, I can still click on them, though.
Also, whenever I do anything that draws to the desktop (such as dragging out a selection box), it just stays there and won't go away.

The only way to get the icons to show is to right click my desktop and hit Refresh.
Once I do that, the icons show, and I can drag out selection boxes as normal.

So to fix this problem, is it possible to script in an automatic call to Windows' Refresh feature for the desktop that is executed after UberSkin has completely finished skinning everything? I don't think that would be a very difficult fix if you decide to do it...

Oh, and I'll get some screens and add them to this post in an edit...

You didn't say the main thing: you're using Active Desktop. I'm afraid you don't even imagine how bad this thing is.

Tihiy... bad news: I had to uninstall Uberskin. It crashes Miranda IM's popups, presumably when there's avatars to display in popups. As soon as I uninstalled Uberskin, crashes stopped. Dunno if there's much useful information in a classic error report but I'll post it here anyway. I'm afraid that to help you reproduce it, I'd have to remove all personal information from my setup and send it to you, which would take me some time. But I could do it, if you wanted.

USER.EXE and USER32.DLL are both v4.10.2233, marked as QFE special builds. Forgive my lousy memory - they should belong to some unofficial pack, I presume. My system is too much of a manually mixed up cocktail to offer any more detailed information. Here's the crash report:

Uberskin 8.1.10 Slovak
http://www.slayershrine.wz.cz/Uberskin8.1.10SK.exe

Installer still english

THX Philco

Well, have you tried to just switch to classic theme?
Since Miranda is a such custom thing, you'll have to remove your profile and send me your build or list plugins you have (especially popup one). Sorry for inconvenience.

I haven't tried to switch themes. Right now I'm preparing a Miranda pack to send to you. There's a bad toothache hindering me though.

UberSkin 8.1.11 released! IMPORTANT
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
I hope this is final bugfix release and everybody will be happy!

- Menu now grays for unactive windows;
- Fixed window state messup during text change could result in redrawing window from behind;
- FIXED Windows 98 tray icons;
- Fixed Windows Me tray icons;
- Fixed Windows 95 tray, taskbar, start menu, explorer issues;
- Improved un-auto-hide behavior;
- Fixed Photoshop 5 issue / anihilating small windows;
- Fixed scrollbar message crashing windows with destroyed scrollbars (CodeStuff Starter);
- Fixed minor installer issues;
- ATI pink bugs may be fixed.

Not may but is fixed for HJT.

Yay! Let's party!

prey works, adobe photoshop works, pink dots fixed (except one app - ultima onlina, but that app is terrible when i comes to graphics handling)

slovak version
http://www.slayershrine.wz.cz/Uberskin8.1.11SK.exe
(installer stil english. i am lazy )

also tihiy is the transparent icon feature available? in some version it worked (first czech from Philco), but after it i was unable to set icons transparent

Aha, so I was. I turned it off and it fixed the problem!
(Still, now I can't use my nice JPEG backgrounds... Oh, well...)

Unfortunately, I found another bug. (Or is this a known issue or not even a bug?)
When I boot up and log in, the taskbar and windows are un-skinned (looks the same as in the brief second when changing themes).
They only seem to show up if I go back to my Display settings, pick another theme, and go back to my selected theme (in other words, re-select the theme). (BTW, I upgraded from 10 to 11, but this problem was on both versions).

Any tips on this?

use *.bmp as background. it cost no system resources and effect is visually same.

if you select theme and change anything (background color for example) you have to save theme before you reboot. After reboot the theme will appear again...

to Tihiy:

after some hours i noticed pink dots again i dont know the actual reason...

I can think of one situation: you're using multi-user logon. Thus, when Windows starts up, it loads skin for default profile (none), and not yours. I didn't think anyone actually used this... i'll look into this.
I've never said that i've fixed them. If it annoys you enough, turn off windows animation via TweakUI.

thanks i have turned them on for better visual effect no trouble to turn them off.

I try this tips and no visible & no effect transparent text... checkbox / Desktop no visible... this reg code O.K.?

UberSkin 8.1.11 CZECH
Download: uberskin8111cz.exe

btw: on file on.reg i must add (this tips only for Czech Windows 98 SE):



Notice: Tihiy, THX fixed Photoshop 5.0 >>> positive!

Offler, you try edit on.reg and plus:



and add reg files off.reg

UberSkin 8.1.11 Français
Here you go : win9x4ever.online.fr

Yes, I am using multi-user logon. I've been experimenting with making a "user rights pack" that can help you set user rights on Win98, and I need multiple users to do that.

Should I log on as the default (you hit cancel on logon, right? It's been forever since I've tried it so I forget if that works) and install UberSkin on it, too?

Install or just select theme if there is. Or wait for multi-user fix.

Okay, I installed UberSkin on the default user (yes, I had to install it again since the skins didn't show) and set the skin to the same one as myself and it fixed the problem!

Now I've noticed one thing though:
You CAN NOT use different skins for the default user and another user if the default user is using an UberSkin theme. It will cause all sorts of graphical glitches, and somtimes illegal operation error messages (I forget the process: I think UMANGR2 or something like that).

Also, I've noticed a few other UberSkin bugs:
1) Pink dots sometimes show in the corners of windows, especially on programs that hide the title bar (like Windows Media Player 9) when using any of the Vista themes.
2) Certain programs are not skinned. DOS Prompt isn't, which I'm fine with, but neither are Hearts, Soltitaire, FreeCell, or Minesweeper.
3) When using an UberSkin skin, somtimes the game "3D Pinball Space Cadet" will crash (report says process is the game's EXE; module is Kernel386 but I forget if it's the DLL or EXE of it).

System is Windows 98SE running inside a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 Box on Windows XP.
I have uSP 2.1a, September 07 Autopatcher, NUSB 3.2, 98SE2ME, and 98MP10 installed.
Running UberSkin 8.1.11 version.

EDIT: Added OS / Environment info.

There shouldn't be anything wrong with that registry entry. It works at least under win98SE. Not certain about 95, but 98 and up should be fine assuming the transparent icon text works at all. Toggle the checkbox, press apply, then refresh your desktop.



The actual code does little more than toggle the TransparentIcons flag. It shouldn't damage anything.

i makes trouble in localized versions of Windows 98. i have same trouble as Philco does. the setting is available to me, but it does not work.

Noticed something about the transparent icons...

I have 98SE2ME installed, and it seems to change the layout of Folder Options.
I couldn't get the .REG file to even add the check box, but I found a way to get it to work:

In the .REG file's code (for both the installer and uninstaller) change all instances of "Visual" to "Desktop"
This should put the checkbox if the other REG didn't work.

However, I now have the checkbox, but checking it and refreshing doesn't seem to do anything...

EDIT: It seems that if I check the checkbox and hit Apply or OK, it doesn't stay checked.
EDIT 2: Never mind that last edit, I forgot to put a new line at the end of the .REG file.

Hi, I have a problem with UberSkin (8.1.11 Czech). If taskbar placed right side, is bordered with transparent line.



And if I unlock and lock the taskbar is all OK:

About to install it now, and i cant wait for full RP8

Noticed another bug in UberSkin in addition to the ones in my above post.

Ever since I installed UberSkin, sometimes, seemingly randomly, I'll get random illegal operation app-closes on things like file property pages, control panel, etc...
Program is Rundll32.exe, module is kernel32.dll.

System is Windows 98SE running inside a Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 Box on Windows XP.
I have uSP 2.1a, September 07 Autopatcher, NUSB 3.2, 98SE2ME, and 98MP10 installed, but none of these seemed to cause problems before I installed UberSkin.
Running UberSkin 8.1.11 version.

EDIT: Added OS and installed pack info.

Very nice, indeed. But what about XP or Vista theme sets?
Like icons changes and stuff?

Can i install a XP theme changer now?

UberSkin 8.1.12 released!
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
- This version was rehacked to not use event hooks for scrollbar skinning; some applications (ex. very customized Miranda) are triggering GPF in user.exe when hooks are on.

Please, when you're reporting problems, include relevant information which may help me fixing it: your Windows version and important updates applied; if you're reporting crash, provide crashing info if you can.

finally
not true for me

New bug:

Haven't seen this bug prior to 8.1.11. I have only seen this happening with Opera 9.25 so far.

i have seen that bug in previous version when i received icq message xeno. after any action the icon position refreshed to correct place...

Hmmm .....

I thought I was the only one ...

This occured from the very first 8.1.0 but I thought it was due to Lazarus (0.9.24) internal functions ...

Also occurs with my resmon util when status caption text is updated with window app open. Corrected when window app is minimized.


Rgds

Xeno86: I had already reported that bug with 8.1.11 in Miranda's forums, thinking it might have been Miranda-related; apparently I was wrong.

Tihiy: I'm gonna install 8.1.12 in a few minutes, but I trust the issue is fixed if you said so. Thank you so very much for your efforts!

Fbbbl! I suggest you to delete/null post in that board.
All: Yes, incorrect icon position for taskbar items was (re-)introduced with 8.1.11. Thank you for reporting. I'm trying to find best fix for it...

Note that next version planned is 8.2.0.
1) Please confirm bugs that were posted here (not ^this^ one), since i'm unable to reproduce them.
2) 8.2.0 is gonna be multi-lingual. Double-check translations that were posted in this thread.

Well, I got a chance to try out 8.1.12.

I guess you either fixed something or I'm lucky, because I haven't gotten any random illegal operation messages at all under this new version! (well, unless I try to have the myself and the default user running different UberSkin themes... but that's another story, and it isn't random)

I must say, the scrollbars seemed kind of slow to me under 8.1.11 (especially noticable to me since I'm running a VM and tend to get some slowdowns with window drawing), and they're much better under 8.1.12. Good job, Tihiy.

Just one thing I've noticed to add to my previous minor issues.
In explorer, the scrollbars for the main view is skinned, but not for webview.
Click to view attachment
Is this a bug, or did you just not bother skinning it since you hate the thing and are trying to replace it?

UberSkin 8.1.12SK

http://www.slayershrine.wz.cz/Uberskin8.1.12SK.exe

- Slovak installer
- transparent icons enabled during installation


Thanks for help Philco

bugreports:
pink dots appear when i close prey until window is resized...

Uberskin 8.1.12 en Français
Still here : win9x4ever.online.fr

Tihiy Corrected typo for multilingual version.
+ Localized start buttons added for Zune and WinXP (BLUE_STARTBUTTON_FRA.bmp, DEFAULT_STARTBUTTON_FRA.bmp, [StartButton.1036])