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icefireicefire
QUOTE (CharlesF @ Jul 13 2008, 06:14 AM) *
Hi everyone, and specially Tihiy! welcome.gif

I'm new on this forum, and just had tried Uberskin 8.2.5 (on my W98SE).

It is wonderful! Working very well, no slowing at all the system. biggrin.gif

Notwithstanding, I have a small bug: the title of the page is not displayed at the topbar in MyIE2,
which is an overlay for IE (currently called Maxthon). mad.gif

Best regards.
CharlesF

Edit:
The empty bar seems to be "covering" the title of the webpage.
See on this screenshot:

Why aren't you using firefox or opera smile.gif

IDK really, but i think that there was a maxthon bug a bit ago....
Controller
QUOTE (icefireicefire @ Jul 13 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Why aren't you using firefox or opera smile.gif


On Opera 6.06b, the title bar is not skinned properly when title changes.
icefireicefire
QUOTE (Controller @ Jul 13 2008, 09:48 AM) *
QUOTE (icefireicefire @ Jul 13 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Why aren't you using firefox or opera smile.gif


On Opera 6.06b, the title bar is not skinned properly when title changes.

Opera 6?
Controller
Yep, the "fastest browser on earth"... and best of all, the last version that isn't skinned...
icefireicefire
QUOTE (Controller @ Jul 13 2008, 11:14 AM) *
Yep, the "fastest browser on earth"... and best of all, the last version that isn't skinned...

Ugh....come on. I bet it cant view any pages. Opera's engine was only ok until version 8...just use firefox 3, or somehow get KernelEX to support Safari 3...
thydreamwalker
whistling.gif XPRAIDER also works with UBERSKIN thumbup.gif
Controller
QUOTE (icefireicefire @ Jul 13 2008, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Controller @ Jul 13 2008, 11:14 AM) *
Yep, the "fastest browser on earth"... and best of all, the last version that isn't skinned...

Ugh....come on. I bet it cant view any pages. Opera's engine was only ok until version 8

There are some problems with some websites, but I also had one site working better than intended (support 'forum' which needed registration to show solutions, but on Opera 6, solutions where visible below the page)

Most pages work fine, some need to switch to user mode (especially MSDN), but I got later Opera versions steady for those conditions. Opera 9.50 was a mess again, 9.51 seems to work better, but all 7+ are quite a bit resource consuming, in my opinion. Still hoping for some better 'Mozilla control'.
thydreamwalker
whistling.gif XPRaider.exe is smooth with new Uberskin and uses low resources too! thumbup.gif
Th3_uN1Qu3
QUOTE (thydreamwalker @ Jul 14 2008, 09:40 AM) *
whistling.gif XPRaider.exe is smooth with new Uberskin and uses low resources too! thumbup.gif


Yeah i use that too, it's pretty neat.
Controller
Menus are not updated properly (SetMenu api?, especially after menu changes and window is resized):


Taskbar (Windows 95 Explorer) is not locked properly (border/size) on startup:
Dandee
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Jul 11 2008, 01:13 AM) *
Thx for information. Icon packs that i develop work the same way, except they don't use registry and are more powerful.


Ahh... You build the icon cache directly? Can you elaborate on this? I am busy compiling a list of all icons that are used by Win98, to make my above REG patch more complete.
Offler
Bugreport:

Installshield wizard in Farcry game seems to be incompatible with uberskin. i try to test it with latest version.

Symptoms:
Setup32.exe and associated tasks freezed when i reached phase where i choose components to be installed.

After i uninstalled uberskin the installation process worked correctly.

edit:
Bug confirmed in version 8.2.5. For additional information just ask. what is also strange that "installshield" app was running twice, while one was invisible or putted under first...

edit2:
even farcry itself is unable to run with uberskin... (version 1.1 - i dont have older)
M()zart
Can LameSkin themes be used with UberSkin without modifications?
Dandee
Hi, it's me again, blink.gif

I've uploaded a more elaborate version of my WinXP icon pack, to match the
Windows XP theme:

http://www.baut.nl/downloads/WinXP-Icons.zip

I even wrote a program to scan for registry keys which are used by Windows
to store icon locations. This resulted in so many icons, I got frustrated finding
them all in the XP libraries.

Maybe someone out there is kind enough to run the scanner on a
Windows XP machine, so I can make the pack even more complete.
It can be downloaded from:

http://www.baut.nl/downloads/IconSkan.zip

Just execute the program and post the resulting C:\SystemIcons.reg. I hope it doesn't
crash on XP, but it only reads the registry, nothing is changed. It's very basic, wait
until you see "Ready" on the statusbar in the bottom of the window.

Many thanx beforehand!
Dandee
supem
bugreport:

I have to confirm a bug Uberskin 8.2.5 in Grupwise 6.5

Runtime error! "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"

GRPWISE caused an invalid page fault in
module MFC42.DLL at 019f:5f4012ec.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=019f EIP=5f4012ec EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000000 SS=01a7 ESP=02e3fb9c EBP=02e3fbcc
ECX=00000000 DS=01a7 ESI=00dee1f0 FS=4ddf
EDX=81c8db78 ES=01a7 EDI=00dc7fa0 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 71 04 85 f6 57 74 26 8b 7c 24 0c 33 d2 8b c7
Stack dump:
00dee1f0 5f4042c5 00000c3c 00dc7fa0 00000000 00dee1f0 5f457966 00dee1f0 00dee1f0 02e3fbdc 5f495254 00000000 02e3fc50 53160e6c 00dee1f0 00dee1f0

DrWatson reports MFCDLL Shared Library version: 6.00.9782.0

After I unistalled Uberskin 8.2.5 the problem disappears
Tihiy
QUOTE
I have to confirm a bug Uberskin 8.2.5 in Grupwise 6.5
Where i am supposed to d/l it and how to reproduce crash?

QUOTE
Farcry game seems to be incompatible with uberskin
Unfortunately i don't have a system capable of testing it sad.gif
Bleeder
Latest version of Groupwise 6.5 client (6.5.6 Update 3) is here:
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=XKcL-Qkijvk~


NoNameNeeded
Has anyone ever made a silver XP skin for Uberskin ?
noguru
Luna Metallic, posted overhere:

http://www.msfn.org/board/EtherLunaPack-t1...942#entry748942
NoNameNeeded
Thx a lot.
supem
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Jul 24 2008, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE
I have to confirm a bug Uberskin 8.2.5 in Grupwise 6.5
Where i am supposed to d/l it and how to reproduce crash?

QUOTE
Farcry game seems to be incompatible with uberskin
Unfortunately i don't have a system capable of testing it sad.gif

LAN email client Groupwise 6.5 => tools=> rules=>new
Offler
tihiy, the farcry is behaving very bad - it causes a BSOD when i close the game, but this happens when uberskin is not present.

on my system but here is my spec:

Intel Pentium III-S 1.266@1482Mhz
1,5 gb ram
Ati Radeon x850xt (works fine with radeon 9800 or 9600)

with it i can run at full details (ultra high).
Roberx
This thread should be stickied under Important Topics. A sub-thread of Uberskin compatible themes would also be nice.

Any mod's out there agree?
Offler
tihyi, with uberskin i have found cracked "login" sound. that means that there are some trouble in memory. i cannot specify it more. it is just same symptom that i have with wrong memory configuration. can you check it for any memory leaks?
Tihiy
QUOTE
tihyi, with uberskin i have found cracked "login" sound. that means that there are some trouble in memory. i cannot specify it more. it is just same symptom that i have with wrong memory configuration. can you check it for any memory leaks?

That means only that hardware is not prioritized enough to handle a lot of "async" i/o (because skin loads asynchronously). I'll make a flag to load it synchronously.

Next version is delayed due to a serious difficulties with Groupwise bug.
Offler
Creative soundblaster Live... if it is used by waveout it is the reason, even when i use WDM drivers (very sucessfully). it can barely handle async. i know that from other devices (as some harddiscs)
Th3_uN1Qu3
QUOTE (Offler @ Aug 3 2008, 11:37 PM) *
Creative soundblaster Live... if it is used by waveout it is the reason, even when i use WDM drivers (very sucessfully). it can barely handle async. i know that from other devices (as some harddiscs)


Get your drives out of PIO mode, the soundcard drivers have zero to do with it.
Offler
i did it just yesterday smile.gif disks were runninng correctly - two of them are hi-end SCSI drives. IDE disks were running in UDMA modes, but DVD rom was unable to get out PIO mode. i bought newer one which runs UDMA66 correctly.

the chopping was caused by two reasons - wrong memory setup, and the old DVD rom probably. but in that time i had uberskin uninstalled, because of FarCry. when all bugs fixed and Uskin not in system the sound was flawless. with Uskin it is not so much flawless smile.gif
Dandee
Hi Group,

I've uploaded a final version of my icon pack for the Windows XP theme. Download it at:

http://www.baut.nl/downloads/WinXP-Icons.zip

I've added about 50 new icons. All icons have a 16, 32, 48 pixel size, and have a
color-depth of 16, 256, and millions (true color).

I also included a Control Panel replacement, which fits seamlessly into the Start Menu.
Read the Readme.txt file.

Tihiy, I want to congratulate you with your uberskin once more. I have seen other skinning
software working and they are not in your class. Uberskin is so light and unnoticable!

I develop all my projects on a Windows '98 machine, because if they work there, they work
on all versions of Windows. Until now, sometimes my clients didn't trust my work because
they think that only amateurs still work on Win98. But that's all over now, because they
now see a Windows XP machine. Superfast and unhackable I might add. shifty.gif

Also, I have a request: it would be very nice if you could make the TabControls
skinnable. That would really finish the Windows XP illusion.

With kind regards,
Dandee
Tihiy
UberSkin 8.2.8 released!
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
This release has gone through lot of re-architecting changes.

* Issues with subclassing with stack unbalancing (affecting Groupwise and some other apps + i hope, InstallShield) was resolved;
* 16-bit resident code was eliminated.

KTM add-on was updated (8.2.5 and up)
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/KTM8.zip
* Advanced options are not active when user is not logged on;
* Hot-restart (Shift+Shut Down) now also frees orphaned Win3.x resources.

*attention this is a drunk night release*
noguru
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Aug 9 2008, 11:25 PM) *
UberSkin 8.2.8 released!
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
This release has gone through lot of re-architecting changes.

* Issues with subclassing with stack unbalancing (affecting Groupwise and some other apps + i hope, InstallShield) was resolved;
* 16-bit resident code was eliminated.

KTM add-on was updated (8.2.5 and up)
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/KTM8.zip
* Advanced options are not active when user is not logged on;
* Hot-restart (Shift+Shut Down) now also frees orphaned Win3.x resources.

*attention this is a drunk night release*


Cheers to you Tihiy for this "drunk night" release smile.gif Resource usage seems to be a few percent (2-3) lower. Thanks!
Tihiy
UberSkin 8.3.0 released! EXPERIMENTAL
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
This release includes new technology called "USER resource salvation":

Now, UberSkin is able to actually save precious Win9x resources, for now USER resources.
It reduces poor small 64K local heap overhead and reduces fragmentation.
While this change is minor, even small win is a win. You can notice improvements if you're running a lot of tidy programs.
This release is experimental and i need you very much to test it thoroughly.

Technical:
This was made possible by moving comctl32.dll classes into system class list. Thus, every process now has them by default and there is no need to pollute heap by copies of numerous comctl32 control classes. [sounds simple?]

Numbers:
With fresh, cleaned, just started system difference will be below 1%. However, with a lot of programs started, change will be noticeable.
For example, before, 30 Notepad copies will leave 65% USER resources free. With USalvation, 30 Notepad will leave 79% USER resources, and +20 additional Notepads will make 65% free. So, resource boost is 60%! But unfortunately, not every program is as simple as Notepad. rolleyes.gif For actual programs, boost may be not noticeable. [1 thread in application consumes space comparable with freed by those classes]

Answers:
Does this feature change UberSkin requirements?
No. In particular, this change relies on latest comctl32.dll version included with IE6. But, you already have it if you run UberSkin okay.
Can this change break programs?
No. This change is not noticeable by programs.
What about GDI resources?
There is technology i develop which will help to improve GDI resource management and provide more resources for hungry apps like Opera 9.50+. It should be available in the future.

*went drinking*
Xstyle
^^ It sounds good! thumbup.gif
Drugwash
Tihiy, it all sounds interesting, especially the GDI saving part. However, previous build brought a bug with Office XP: min/max/close buttons and the area around them do not skin correctly (actual buttons get skinned when hovered) and when typing in (tested in Excel) they lose all skinning.
Toggling maximize skins back the buttons area until typing again. I haven't yet installed 8.3.0 to see if it's fixed.
Tihiy
QUOTE
brought a bug with Office XP

I've confirmed this bug. That's bug in USER and Office XP. Seems that it was there forever! It passes some random values, so sometimes it may or may not show.

Anyway, this bug is fixed and you'll see it in 8.3.1 (a bit later since it is too late now).
Tihiy
UberSkin 8.3.1 released!
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin.exe
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/uberskin_u.exe
(without stock skins, 150K)

- Fixed bug with apps redrawing old buttons (Office XP);
- Added MSLU bugfix for dialogs (e.g. foobar2k options not showing).
Philco
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Aug 24 2008, 04:33 AM) *
UberSkin 8.3.1 released!
...


Czech build this version: Uberskin 8.3.1 CZ

Thx Tihiy! Resources OK

(Motive traslation: With running original UberSkin by Tihiy / Czech Windows 98 => only english transl., i must have edit DLL /EN edit to czech language text).
Tihiy
Hmm, maybe you have to change resources locale to 0x5 (Czech default) from 0x405 (Czech)? Or may be you computer defaults to English locale?
Philco
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Aug 24 2008, 07:19 AM) *
Hmm, maybe you have to change resources locale to 0x5 (Czech default) from 0x405 (Czech)? Or may be you computer defaults to English locale?


No, computer defaults Czech locale (IE too czech). What DLL call at running your DLL (comctl32.dll (5.81.4916.400) english version)? This problem with UberSkin from the start project.
Tihiy
QUOTE (Philco @ Aug 25 2008, 02:01 AM) *
What DLL call at running your DLL (comctl32.dll (5.81.4916.400) english version)? This problem with UberSkin from the start project.
Sorry, i don't understand a single thing you said. Can you explain it better? comctl32.dll 5.81.4916.400 includes all languages, and if you have problems with it, you better check your system. [Or really Czech system so special?]
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/Win9x_RP8_Update.EXE
This update includes this comctl32.dll if you want to provide people link for it.
thydreamwalker
thumbup.gif Uberskin8.3.0 and 8.3.1=Fast ,Clean ,Low Resources..........LighteningFast Scandisk and Defrag!!!!! shifty.gif W O W !!!Win98SE=Quicker than Vista & XP ?????.......hmmmmmm whistling.gif
Drugwash
I confirm Office XP skinning bug was fixed in 8.3.1. Thank you very much, Tihiy! thumbup.gif
geoc
Uberskin_u ,sky98 ,98se2m, all works wery well !
How can I slimming down the wide of taskbar ?
Thank you!
Tihiy
QUOTE
How can I slimming down the wide of taskbar ?
If you mean height, you can reduce "TaskBarSize=" variable in skin.ini (if you mean Sky98, which is quite tall)!
geoc
About height of taskbar.
I changed value in skin.ini (to 24) for BlackMesa and is ok.
Thank you Tihy!
Philco
QUOTE (Tihiy @ Aug 25 2008, 02:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Philco @ Aug 25 2008, 02:01 AM) *
What DLL call at running your DLL (comctl32.dll (5.81.4916.400) english version)? This problem with UberSkin from the start project.
Sorry, i don't understand a single thing you said. Can you explain it better? comctl32.dll 5.81.4916.400 includes all languages, and if you have problems with it, you better check your system. [Or really Czech system so special?]
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/Win9x_RP8_Update.EXE
This update includes this comctl32.dll if you want to provide people link for it.


Language (CZ) problem already at first "multilanguage" version 8.2.1. Thx update comctl32.dll, same problem with "Tihiy version" UberSkin.
Sorry my bad english, i am very old man "made in komunist school"... blushing.gif
Btw: last UberSkin very good, usage system resources very low!
jglori
@Tihiy
If I want to install this new version, should I first uninstall the older version? Or will this simply update the older one that's already installed in my pc?
Win98SEonSteroids
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Tihiy
Win98SEonSteroids, thank you for my new worst nightmare. ohmy.gif
I knew that removing RP7 check from code can lead to sth, but i could not imagine such effect...
I'll have a debug setting for disabling small icon size shrinking to 16 in next version.
@~*&$$ ^%$##!

QUOTE
If I want to install this new version, should I first uninstall the older version?
I believe there are no programs which can't work after update. Even there if notes 'you should delete old version', nobody read them, right? So the programs always update old version or uninstall it.
You can upgrade or downgrade UberSkin, any version, without any possible problems.Any version released so far is backward and forward compatible.
Win98SEonSteroids
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