Updated: July 24, 2008 - Adding Creative applets - see below

There are some people having problems with their Creative Sound Blaster Live! in Windows 9x.
The Windows 9x Creative Web Release drivers for the Live! have caused me instability in Windows.
Years ago, I started collecting and testing newer versions of creative driver files to determine those that worked in 9x with the Live!.
Following is that collection of driver files:

Please note that these are original, freely available Creative files, and the binaries are not modified or patched in any way.

http://skyupload.com/15THSPJSB2T5/sblive.zip (4.42 MiB)

Experimental SB0100 support:
http://skyupload.com/17F3AVHT2L9V/sb0100.zip (4.42 MiB)

I do not have a SB0100 so I cannot test these - feedback welcome!


Creative EMU10K1 sound devices supported:

CT4620 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00211102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I)
CT4670 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_00201102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen I) Value
CT4760 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II)
SB0060 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80611102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1
SB0100 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80661102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen III) 5.1 (Experimental)
CT4780 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80221102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4790 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80231102 - Sound Blaster PCI512 (OEM)
CT4830 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80261102 - Sound Blaster Live! (Gen II OEM) Value
CT4831 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80311102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4832 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4850 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80511102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4870 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80281102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT4871 - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80321102 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
CT???? - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_002F1102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated
CT???? - PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80251102 - Sound Blaster Live! motherboard integrated


I have used these drivers in Windows 98SE, but they 'should' support 95 and Me although I have not tested them on these platforms.
There are Creative installers for Windows 95 and for Windows 98/Me.
If you have a newer Sound Blaster that is not in the list above, then you can use the standard Web Release drivers for those cards from Creative.


Windows 9x DOS support drivers

Since Creative have removed most DOS drivers from their site...
For those wanting Pure DOS (outside of Windows) Sound Blaster 16 Emulation for their Live! and have lost or never had the original CD, or have a newer CD that does not come with these:

http://skyupload.com/15KIIXQKGVKL/sbldos.zip (823 KiB)

These are the original Live! DOS Emulation drivers. I am aware of newer Live! DOS drivers but I do not have the install files... Anyone?

Note: DOS Emulation may not work on some (newer) motherboards if the BIOS does not map the PCI SERR# signal to the processor NMI (Non-Maskable Interrupt). Check with your mobo vendor for BIOS upgrade, or dump the Mobo for one that works properly!
See here for more technical information:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.pe...47b2fbdaeff13e6


Creative Applets that are compatible and tested with VxD drivers:
Check your current version of each applet before installing these in case they are actually newer than these...

AudioHQ
To deinstall the original CD installed AudioHQ (and 1.0.185.0):
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\AudioHQ.isu"
Always deinstall old version first!

1.0.185.0 (Oct 1999) - Works - http://skyupload.com/18SI8SGAZ876/audiohq10185.zip (1.98 MiB)
1.0.193.0 (Sep 2000) - Failed to install (!)
1.10.21 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
1.10.22 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers

Surround Mixer
To deinstall the original CD installed Surround Mixer:
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\SurMixer.isu"
To deinstall 1.1.1.0 of Surround Mixer:
C:\WINDOWS\IsUninst.exe -f"C:\Program Files\Creative\SurroundMixer\SurMixer.isu"
Always deinstall old version first!

1.1.1.0 (Nov 2000) - Works - http://skyupload.com/18OPQGVCNGAA/surmix111.zip (1.68 MiB)
2.00.26 (Jun 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
2.00.29 (Nov 2002) - Fails with VxD drivers
3.00.57 (Feb 2003) - Fails with VxD drivers



Standard disclaimer
These drivers have worked for me but YMMV. I have been using them for years with no problem, however, they may or may not work on your model of Creative sound card, and therefore, I cannot make any guarantee of suitability. In simple terms, you are solely responsible if your audio begins to sound like you're in a concrete bunker some thirty-seven miles from the stage of Disaster Area!

Enjoy!

I've added the pure DOS Sound Blaster 16 Emulation drivers for the Live!
These are for Windows 95/98, but not Me since Me does not have pure DOS access aside from the EBD.
See first post.

EDIT: Windows Me with the EBD IO.SYS patch could in fact run SB16 DOS Emulation!

Will this help with SB16...as have original cdrom and older SB16 blaster audio card from '95era?...i think. ;It came with Pentium1-133Mhz-66Mhzbus-1.5gbHdd-And a useless(BTC) cdrom :***Will be putting in Via(ShuttleMoBo)Apollo 233Mhz-MMX/Pentium2(acts like a Pentium4)-66Mhzbus-4.7gbHdd,1.5Hdd---LITEON LTN301CdRom-read,audio(player/burner),LITE-ON LH52CIP DVD/CDRW Burner;H-P CD Writer/Burner THX...thydreamwalker

No it won't. SBLive! uses the EMU10K1 chipset that is quite different to previous Sound Blasters.
Download the SB16 Windows drivers from Creative.
If it's a SB16 PCI and you want to use it outside of Windows, then you will need the DOS driver.
A bit tricky since Creative dropped DOS support...
Try adapting the SBPCI drivers from here: http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/snddosdr.htm

I've corrected some of the Sound Blaster Live! model names in the first post supported list.
If anyone was wondering, the supported devices do include the SB0060 Live! 5.1 cards (previously incorrectly named).

I would like to confirm the operation of these drivers on various Live! models.
If you have installed these drivers and they are working correctly, then please post your Live! information.
Information as listed in the first post would be good. CT or SB model (on card), descriptive model (on box or manual), and PCI ID would all be useful.
PCI ID can be found using regedit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCI
Look for key starting with VEN_1102&DEV_0002, and copy key name.
And the version of Windows 9x (95, 95A, 95B, 95C, 98, 98SP1, 98SE, Me)

Also let me know if the drivers have not worked for you and why.

These drivers do not include the Creative apps like Surround Mixer.
Many of these can be downloaded from Creative.

Thanks.

I don't know of any PCI SB16 cards. I have an ISA one though, and it works perfectly under DOS with just this line in autoexec.bat, no drivers needed as DOS had native support for the SB:



You have to check the jumper settings of the card, they have to match the above line.

Thanks your driver info helped on older PI ;yet found auto matic driver installs for a lotta Creatives SB Cards?....in Windows 2K ADV SVR...not sure if in CD-ROM or was downloaded in NTSP4 Updates? thydreamwalker

Hmm the emu10k1 vxd is actually newer than what i got with liveware 3 full package...how can this be...shame the parametric eq patch doesn't work on it Thanks anyway

Yeah, patches tend to be file version specific.
What model Live! card do you have?

I have model SB0100, which is a SoundBlaster Live! 5.1.

Anyone else gotten the drivers installed and installed properly with the SB0100?

Hi RJARRRPCGP, I don't think the SB0100 is in the installer INF.
Can you post your card's PCI ID. See my previous post for information:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Compilation-of-C...549#entry767549

I can try to port the patch to the newer version... if you want me to try, do PM me.

CT4830

Looks like you have a Generation II Live! card. I've got a Gen II myself.
Generation III was introduced with the Live! 5.1.
There have been driver updates since the Live!Ware 3.0 full package was released.

That's the point of these drivers.
As I noted in a previous post, these are the core drivers and do not include Creative applications like Surround Mixer.
The Creative apps have been updated since Live!Ware 3.0 also, but there are some compatibility issues with some newer versions since they are often designed for the WDM drivers (not recommended in 9x - I tested them, and could never get them working properly...).

Yeah i know the point of this post but i hate it when companies dont post updated drivers for their older hardware and only for the newer (obvious reasons) even if they are compatible...i didn't knew there were newer vxd drivers for my card besides the lw3.0 package. What about the apps? Is threr surround mixer update for the vxd drivers ? I would like to try it. Thanks for this nice compilation...would be nice if you could find the updated dos drivers (not preinstalled tho).

I, too, own the SB0100...
I've attached a registry file of the SB0100 keys found under:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCI

Hopefully this will help .

Thanks for the info whatever420! I've compiled an experimental set of drivers for the SB0100.
See First Post
Let me know how they go.


I did some testing some time ago with the new apps - varying success.
I'll re-test all the new apps and post those that work well with the VxD drivers.
I have nearly a gig of Live! drivers and apps (all downloaded from Creative US, Eur, Asia, Aus, over the years)
It'll take some time, so stay tuned!

Wow over 1 gb...thats alot...hope you can scrap something for us...can't wait

Well, thanks to aLeXis' help, now I offer you here is the parametric EQ patch for emu10k1.vxd v. 4.12.01.0906...

Here's how to proceed:
1) Confirm that you do have emu10k1.vxd v. 4.12.01.0906: go to the folder it is in, right-click on emu10k1.vxd, choose Properties, then Version and confirm that it says "File Version: 4.12.01.0906" (without the inverted double commas). If it does not, this patch is not for you;
2) Download the freeware command-line utils.zip, from KanastaCorp, grab inside it just patch.exe and drop it into the \%windir%\command\ folder;
3) Download the emu0906.zip attached below, grab inside it emu0906.pat and drop it into the folder in which you have emu10k1.vxd v. 4.12.01.0906;
4) Still in that folder, rename emu10k1.vxd to emu10k1.ori
5) Start a DOS box, go to the folder in which you have emu10k1.ori, and run the following command from the DOS prompt:

patch -p emu10k1.ori emu0906.pat emu10k1.vxd

6)If everything went well, when you right-click on emu10k1.vxd, choose Properties, then Version, you'll will see that the copyright line now says "1998-2008", instead of "1998-2000"... That is to help identify the patched file from an unpatched one.

7) Enjoy!

Of course, as always, the standard disclaimer applies: It works great for me, but YMMV and I can guarantee nothing whatsoever about this patch, and about the use you make of it. So, by deciding to apply it you fully accept that anything you do is of YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY... Hence, if after performing this mod your pc morphs into a purple mushroom and explodes, causing a 10-day worldwide blackout and leaving the whole world's population tone deaf in the process, it's your fault only, you know you can't blame me for it! You have been warned.

Here's the patch in an .EXE form....just run it, select the file, patch, restart pc and enjoy. Tested by me on Win98SE.

Download link: http://qshare.com/get/222538/sblive-eq-pat...1.0906.exe.html

what about wdm drivers based on emu10k.sys? i need for my machine wdm drivers - for quad repro it is almost impossible to use VxDs. also your drivers worked as expected. good for stereo, but hard to work with surround settings (set wavedevce instead of directsound may solve that, but it causes other trouble with some sound formats)

also i prefer to use ASIO function for better sound with my sb0100 and that is available only with wdms...

AFAIK, The SB0100 was not supported with VxD drivers. The ones I have compiled are probably the only ones in existence...
I will look into compiling a current WDM driver set for SB0100 Live! 5.1 (EMU10K1) and Audigy (EMU10K2).

I currently use waveOut instead of Direct Sound for some applications like DVD playback to get quad speaker working properly.
It is necessary to have the multichannel Windows 98SE patch (269601/242937) installed to get more than stereo working in most cases.
Auto-Patcher 98 has this patch in the core system updates.

BTW, dencorso, great work on the eq patch!

i downloaded dozen drivers for sb0100. some of them were vxd (similar to these) and some wdm...

I've started adding some Creative applets.
So far AudioHQ and Surround Mixer.
Most newer versions only work on WDM drivers.

See first post for VxD compatible versions.

Cool...ill try the new applets and post back feedback...

There's a whole Creative installation cd that came with one of my SB0100 cards! I used to copy it to my hard drive, change the AUDIO.INI from 98SE/ME USE WDM 1 to 98SE/ME USE WDM 0 (something like that as it's been ages and I don't remember exactly what the line said. I just changed the 1 to a 0). Then running setup would install the VXD driver along with the good old SB16 within Windows emulation just like the older cd's did. The one that came with the SB0100 installed the WDM's by default. My tweak changed that.

It's an entire LiveWare package. I have no idea how I could get it to you, but I do have it. It came with the retail box that was smaller than the older SBLive boxes when the Audigy replaced the SBLive as their upscale line. But not as small as the even later packages of the SB0200 series.

So, if you could get this cd you'd have no need for all this tweaking and figuring as all the software and drivers are included. If I could figure out how to make an iso and then upload it somewhere that would allow that sized package free then I suppose we could make it happen. Do you know how I could do this for you? Either in Linux (where I suppose K3b could make the iso) or in 98SE (where I have Nero 7 Ultra Edition that I'm sure has that feature).

It's figuring out how to get it uploaded that I'm unsure of.

I'm sure you could just pack the required files in a *.rar, keeping the directory structure if needed, and then upload it. However, if you really wanna use an iso, here's a way to make one using Nero.

By the way, would anyone be interested with SB Live ! 24 bits (SB041) win98 drivers? I realised they were impossible to find online.

i was trying to run any 24bit creative sound card but i think that it is impossible.

but i was able to run WDM drivers intended for Audigy 1 so i get full surround support with them and also ASIO!

i dont intend to break the VXD scenery here, but how can i link these drivers here? i dont believe that i have downloaded them - they were at brothers cd, and were later updated...

Well, we might have the same ones then but mine come from the original CD, they're the official original 24bits drivers but also work with Audigy LS (if I remember correctly). Oh, and I also run ASIO on top of them.

Nice link there to Nero instructions. Funny that Linux's K3b seems to choose the proper settings automatically. The WinRAR idea is good too. I bought that long ago and always have it installed.

I was only mentioning this because I thought you guys might want the cd image being that you're going through all this trying to put together the drivers and software yourselves. Creative actually did it on the cd, but didn't release the driver or software on their download site. They do that a lot.

Well, if you want it I'd go through the work, either iso or rar. Just tell me if there's a nice free site that'll support uploading that size (full Creative install cd) and keeping it there for folks to download. I thought places like RapidShare want membership fees paid for larger files and also 100MB chunks.

A problem with this cd is they leave out Remote Center as the retail product SB0100 did not get a Platinum breakout box release so they didn't bother putting the software for the LiveDrive on the included cd. Creative always seems to try to make diversions from the norm as difficult as possible for their customers.

Eck, what's the total size of the CD?
Perhaps you could create a spanned archive of less than 100MB chunks (one per upload)?
You could try the upload site I use: http://www.skyupload.com
I've found it to be reliable, however they remove the upload if no one downloads it for 90 days...

I would be interested in looking at that CD...

Just got back here after a month of attempting a taxicab driving adventure. Took all my time, didn't make money, gave me heat-stroke and dehydration. Recovering now, but need to be job hunting.

I'll dig out the cd and check out the possibilities when I have some time. Of course I'll report here on where it is if I manage to upload it.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1707836

I created an iso from the cd, created a torrent file, and uploaded the torrent file to the above website.

Since my ISP (Comcast) upload speed is just a home user type speed, this will be really slow to download unless lots of folks download and seed it.

I'll keep my computer turned on and seeding for a few days now. Maybe someone can get the file and post it as Rar archives? I did it this way since it was all free of charge. But at least it is there so please, if interested, go ahead and get it with a Torrent client like uTorrent, BitTorrent, whatever. I'm using KTorrent on Debian Linux to upload it.

If there's a better free way then let me know. If I get a power failure, brownout, then I'll turn on the computer again and continue seeding. Unless of course I'm not home at the time. If not I'll just turn the computer back on and seeding the torrent as soon as I get home again.

Edit -

http://www.msfn.org/board/Creative-SBLive-...30-t122191.html

I put some trackers to add on my other thread there in case the one I used in the torrent isn't working. The denis.stalker one is one that my torrent client reported to work.

So far, no activity as far as folks downloading the iso has been showing up in my seeding torrent client.

I hope someone will at least attempt to download this, at least to see if I set this thing up properly. But be sure to add the other trackers to the list as I don't think the one in the torrent is working all the time.

Edit -

I'm trying to upload the iso to FileFront. Hope it works. I'll keep you posted. Seems the torrent download couldn't make a connection for a poster at the Creative SoundBlaster forum who tried it. He suggested FileFront.

Edit -

Okay, it's been uploaded:

http://hosted.filefront.com/dahveed3/

Go ahead and check it out.