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Numinous
is saddam captured or an early beta version unsure.gif



looks like he's got a virus biggrin.gif i wouldn't execute him biggrin.gif
Gism0
he's after my precious! he will never get teh ring of power!!

Numinous
lmao laugh.gif not another double unsure.gif
FthrJACK
LOL @ Gismo.

Whats just totaly screwed up is they are talking about how evil his regime was with its executions and beatings and stuff, then in the next breath talking about if the tribunal they have setup can order the death penalty.... which will be carried out most likley by firing squad or hanging. Which makes us... no beter than him eh? no.gif

its him, look more piccies:
Tinker
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 14 2003, 10:30 AM)
LOL @ Gismo.

Whats just totaly screwed up is they are talking about how evil his regime was with its executions and beatings and stuff, then in the next breath talking about if the tribunal they have setup can order the death penalty.... which will be carried out most likley by firing squad or hanging. Which makes us... no beter than him eh?  no.gif

its him, look more piccies:

You are kidding right? No better than him? Give the world a break please. I guess what you are saying is that a slap on the hand is good enough for some one who has out done Hitler in crimes against innocent people. Do you understand what it is that Saddam has done? Your statement is insulting to the people who died under his rule!
gamehead200
DNA evidence proves that its him! tongue.gif Its about time! I've been watching the news all morning...
XtremeMaC
I'll have to agree with Tinker.
I live in Turkey and Saddam might not have done as much to US but he ruined a lot of ppl's lives in Turkey.
for every action there's a reaction.
causality
he killed thousands, he deserves to die.

QUOTE
DNA evidence proves that its him!  Its about time! I've been watching the news all morning...

I just saw it on Tv didn't pay much attention thinking it's his clones tongue.gif
Good news!
FthrJACK
"hey, punching people in the face is wrong! .. what you punched someone in the face?? *smack*"

if you realise how stupid that logic is...

And you are looking at death as some kind of punishment, it isnt, its mercy. Why do you think Hitler killed himself? when you are dead you are dead, end of story. you are what you where before you where born - nothing. he isnt going to care when hes dead is he?

Now, what do you think it would be like to spend the next 30 years locked up in a prison in another country, having to crap in a bowl and swill it out every morning and not knowing whos looking at your butt cheeks in the shower block?

Hell, send him to Camp Xray.

Id rather me shot in the skull to be honest, not like it would hurt.

But.. do as i say not as i do right?

I think the British Government will oppose any penalty such as that. As being part of the invasion force we would not want to be seen as giving out capital punishment by proxy... or maybe they will just say "its now iraqs business" and try brush it off.
XtremeMaC
I'd agree with you though
in Turkey I forgot his name, he was much like Saddam anyways
so they though "we should kill him, its not right, and if we hang him we won't be able to get in the UN." so what they did. They found him an island and he's now in a Villa, servers and everthing. bit of a mess.!!
if us hopefully puts him in a jail (alcatraz tongue.gif) (unlike stupid turkish government) I'd definitely agree with you as long as he lives like any other criminals and as long as he doesn't escape tongue.gif
Gism0


rofl
XtremeMaC
laugh.gif !!! rofl !!!

wanna see something funny check this one smile.gif
ahmedramzi
Hmm quite intresting to feel all that anger to an Arabic President that did no harm to the US or else, except for his own people, and not regarding any of the others!

Guys, I live in an Arabic country & I have to clear things up for you: EACH King or President that rules an Arabic territory (except UAE) is no better than Saddam at all, and that's for sure, beleive me. It's only that these leaders are keeping their relatioship with the US always warm. But when things change, their future will be the same as Saddam..

And, as usual, Arabian citizens are the victims...
Crispy
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 14 2003, 06:19 PM)
And you are looking at death as some kind of punishment, it isnt, its mercy. Why do you think Hitler killed himself?

Exactly! ... that's why I think its very curious that hasen't killed himself already! ... Why on earth hide in a small underground cave when he knows that he's gonna get captured sooner or later? ... He also knows that he will either get jailed for the rest of his or killed in some degrading way ... Thats not logical at all!

I don't know about you, but I can get countless conspiracy theories out of the news broadcasts I've seen today! ...
Numinous
makes me laugh when they say he lived in luxury and his people lived in poverty... i don't think i'll be seeing the queen living in a hole anytime soon
XtremeMaC
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Why on earth hide in a small underground cave when he knows that he's gonna get captured sooner or later? ... He also knows that he will either get jailed for the rest of his or killed in some degrading way ... Thats not logical at all!


what makes u think that he was living in better conditions before?

and just wanted to mention this: Why live if you know that u're going to die sooner or later. I'm sure everyone would try to live as long as they could. Why should he surrender now and ruin his life in a jail. He's used to living in caves. That's where he's been ruling for the most of the time.

They all should commit suicide then.
XPerties
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 14 2003, 01:19 PM)
"hey, punching people in the face is wrong! .. what you punched someone in the face?? *smack*"

if you realise how stupid that logic is...

And you are looking at death as some kind of punishment, it isnt, its mercy. Why do you think Hitler killed himself? when you are dead you are dead, end of story. you are what you where before you where born - nothing. he isnt going to care when hes dead is he?

Now, what do you think it would be like to spend the next 30 years locked up in a prison in another country, having to crap in a bowl and swill it out every morning and not knowing whos looking at your butt cheeks in the shower block?

Hell, send him to Camp Xray.

Id rather me shot in the skull to be honest, not like it would hurt.

But.. do as i say not as i do right?

I think the British Government will oppose any penalty such as that. As being part of the invasion force we would not want to be seen as giving out capital punishment by proxy... or maybe they will just say "its now iraqs business" and try brush it off.

This coming from a guy who walked up to a guy in a car who p***ed him off so he punched him in the face.


Remember Tris, we use to talk all the time. Don't bulls*** a bulls***ter. biggrin.gif newwink.gif biggrin.gif newwink.gif
xper
QUOTE (Tinker @ Dec 14 2003, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 14 2003, 10:30 AM)
LOL @ Gismo.

Whats just totaly screwed up is they are talking about how evil his regime was with its executions and beatings and stuff, then in the next breath talking about if the tribunal they have setup can order the death penalty.... which will be carried out most likley by firing squad or hanging. Which makes us... no beter than him eh?  no.gif

its him, look more piccies:

You are kidding right? No better than him? Give the world a break please. I guess what you are saying is that a slap on the hand is good enough for some one who has out done Hitler in crimes against innocent people. Do you understand what it is that Saddam has done? Your statement is insulting to the people who died under his rule!

We can talk about it Tinker, but I just realised another thing.
Do you know how long time takes to test DNA? At least few days.

What's that telling us? Captured last night?

No way.
FthrJACK
hmm i did think about that too xper. but it only takes 12 days normally because it has to be sent to the lab and stuff. the actual process takes only an hour or two.
techguy21801
here's an idea, let get all the info out of him that we can, then we'll let his own people have him..i doubt they will have mercy on him, as a matter of fact we'll probably be giving him the best security around considering his own people want him dead.
sven
i think tbhey should just put him in a jail cell for thirty year. Death is to nice. but then again, why are us troops in iraq? Oil, or to free iraq. i was watching the news, the us stations are completely different from teh canadian ones. they have sucess and all sorts of stuff. canadians say its no over, they resistance is agains americans, not to help saddam. it all depends on their point of view. Im not happy or unhappy that he was captured.
Jan
The prob w/the death penalty is that it would be humane.Too bad they couldnt do to him what he did to countless others.Like the time he had men fed into a meat grinder feet first so that he could hear their screams and watch their faces.We will treat him w/kid gloves.I say too bad. tongue.gif
piaqt
Look at it this way: this is our chance to demonstrate "We're better than you are."

(hi Jeff)
MSNwar
I am angry at the violence he inflicted on innocent people regardless of where it happened.

The world has established laws against inflicting violance on innocent people so that the world will not be overrun by violent dictators. It is called "crimes against humanity". This man ruled his country with no regard for those laws and the result was a few hundred rich men, a middle class society, towns full of starving people, and nation full of mass graves.

Surely, people must answer for crimes of this nature? Should he be put to death or alllowed to live the rest of his life in prision? Both choices have conseqences and send messages. Death or life in prision would send a clear message that this is what happens to people with no regard for laws. Maybe the next wannabe dictator will heed that message and the message will save the lives of innocent people on a mass scale.

Yes, we Americans contributed to the fall of SH. Maybe without our intervention people would still be starving and the mass graves would be more numerous. For whatever reason anyone feels or believes so strongly that we Americans did it (oil or any other purpose) I ask you to consider the people of Iraq now have the opportunity to live in society governed by the laws they choose for themselves. At least they will now have a choice whereas before there was no choice.

(hi pia) blushing.gif
Jan
Hi Jeff, hi pia! smile.gif

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piaqt said: "this is our chance to demonstrate "We're better than you are."


We do that everyday.All the doctors,nurses,clean water,intentions, resolutions and demonstrations are not going to make Saddam a nice guy.Nor any of the other peep who are like him.We do it everyday and it makes no diff to them.They hate us and they want us dead. (I'm sure they would like us to go quietly) tongue.gif
gamehead200
QUOTE (sven @ Dec 14 2003, 05:16 PM)
i think tbhey should just put him in a jail cell for thirty year.  Death is to nice.  but then again, why are us troops in iraq?  Oil, or to free iraq.  i was watching the news, the us stations are completely different from teh canadian ones.  they have sucess and all sorts of stuff.  canadians say its no over, they resistance is agains americans, not to help saddam.  it all depends on their point of view.  Im not happy or unhappy that he was captured.

The US should let him suffer how he let other people suffer during the time that he was a tyrant...
MSNwar
No Jan. I did not say that. Read more carefully.
Numinous
how about a christmas day televised execution .. that'd make superb christmas tv .. just after the queens speech biggrin.gif .. feet first through a grinder laugh.gif
MSNwar
QUOTE (Numinous @ Dec 15 2003, 12:38 AM)
how about a christmas day televised execution .. that'd make superb christmas tv .. just after the queens speech biggrin.gif .. feet first through a grinder  laugh.gif

SH did something similar to that all the time Numinous. It was called "public execution".
Numinous
thas it .. you got it .. ill prolly jump in one myself if i have to sit through half the crap theyre showing this christmas
Jan
QUOTE (MSNwar @ Dec 14 2003, 05:38 PM)
No Jan. I did not say that. Read more carefully.

Sorry Jeff. Im new here. I meant piaqt. :/
MSNwar
It is not up to the U.S. to decide his fate. His fate should be left to the people of Iraq.
FthrJACK
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thas it .. you got it .. ill prolly jump in one myself if i have to sit through half the crap theyre showing this christmas


not if i get there first smile.gif

heh, know how you feel.
MSNwar
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 15 2003, 01:09 AM)
QUOTE
thas it .. you got it .. ill prolly jump in one myself if i have to sit through half the crap theyre showing this christmas


not if i get there first smile.gif

heh, know how you feel.

Scoot over please. Here comes Big Evil, MUHAHA woot.gif
FthrJACK
Couldnt resist rolleyes.gif
sven
lol, great FthrJACK
Jan
Nice work FJack! Have you seen this one? laugh.gif
MSNwar
wew, that is the best yet. tongue.gif

He may bring a whole new meaning to "nuke" lol. Nah, I do not mean to start anything untoward hard working html codies.
FthrJACK
yup definately the wrong guy....
MSNwar
QUOTE (Jan @ Dec 15 2003, 02:45 AM)
Nice work FJack! Have you seen this one?  laugh.gif

arg, do not get him started. he might get Sedative in on this and then where would we be. cool.gif
Jan
Gonna be some good ones comin out the comin days. cool.gif
Jan
Is Sedative the resident liberal?
FthrJACK
We could call him worse...
MSNwar
QUOTE (Jan @ Dec 15 2003, 02:52 AM)
Is Sedative the resident liberal?

Sedative? http://ileet.net

Remember you asked for it, lol.
FthrJACK
his uploads wont work tho :/
Jan
QUOTE (MSNwar @ Dec 14 2003, 07:57 PM)
QUOTE (Jan @ Dec 15 2003, 02:52 AM)
Is Sedative the resident liberal?

Sedative? http://ileet.net

Remember you asked for it, lol.

lol ! laugh.gif
MSNwar
QUOTE (FthrJACK @ Dec 15 2003, 03:00 AM)
his uploads wont work tho :/

Yea, I overheard his girlfriend say the same thing rolleyes.gif

Maybe that will attract his attention woot.gif
Jan
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XtremeMaC
I didn't really watch the news
how come Saddam was just captured?
I mean they're trying to capture him for a long while
did he surrender? or was it just pure luck us troops ran into him on a supermarket? tongue.gif
Numinous
it was a tip-off .. not surprised seeing as the u.s. had a $25,000,000 price on his head
un4given1
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