dHi new man. looking to up grade my windows98 to maybe 98se I need somthing.

Better yet, upgrade to Windows XP

Depends wat his Specs are tho

Win2000 is probably the best OS to upgrade to, or ME. >;D
XP is just too messed up. I've seen games crash every hour or less. Just too many issues with it. I forget exactly where, but I've seen several sites who've reported XP as being the worst MS-OS yet.

I'd have to disagree with Tarun on this one- if your computer meets the specs, there's just no reason to go with anything lower than XP. Game crashes every hour and hate reports are usually reported only by a vast minority- I've had no irregular problems with the operating system.

ME is the bastard child of microsoft

Here we go again. Another thread on which OS is better. Just try them all out and stick with the one you like. Otherwise, be ready for biased opinions...

well since homiebrah doesnt like biased opinions then let me just give you my un-biased opinion by giving you what I would think are all your options!

it you're pc is an old dino (500mhz, 64mb) then stick to 98se. going to ME would be a catastrophe (old dino or new), it just doesnt perform as well...it's like an 80 year old guy on viagra. if your pc can handle it then go to 2kpro, you'll xperience awesome stability (like xp) but for some reason it feels more sluggish. if you have a new system or even an 800mhz pIII with 320mb of ram (like my g/f) then go with XP pro. It's very stable and at will move at a good speed (faster than if you put 2kPro). My uncle has an AMD700 w/ 128 ram and I wiped it out and placed xp pro on it. the pc is a bit slow, but not for his needs (word processing/internet). he likes the fact that is super stable.

soooo is up to you. give us your specs and maybe you wont get a biased response

So post the links showing proper proof. not some site saying "waa my pc sucks a** and ill blame it on XP"

Windows XP is NT based, it is more stable and secure than win98 could ever hope to be. It is more feature rich than NT4 and Win2k while adopting their reliability. Windows XP is also optimised for games.

Win98 is a dead operating system that MS wants to kill off. Its ugly, slow, bug ridden and has uptimes like a geriatric man whos lost his viagra.

http://www.uptime-project.net/

Go look for real proof at Win98 uptimes and see how it compares to NT systems. Im not even going to check it myself, i know without doing so.
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rnj7:
If you have an older system then maybe upgrade to Win2k. You probably wouldnt notice the difference between 98 and 98SE. Post your PC specs and it will help us give a beter opinion on what your machine is capable of.

I upgraded from 98SE to 2000 recently, and i will NEVER look back, i may be upgrading to XP soon tho

thank you all. I asked a local computer store if I could change my mother board to a pent.4. they said no get a new cpu. Here is what i think I have now.Pent pro.11X600., 500+ ram,1-2g Hd, 1-40g hd,cd burner plus all that comes with the std. pkg. Does this help? thanks again.rnj7.

Funny...if you read an opinion on what OS is best, it is still biased. Simply put, install the OS, play with it, and make the determination. The only facts which are unbiased are the minimum requirements to even load the OS.



EDIT: Imagine that, my 100th post. Think I'll dink some beer to celebrate!

Re: FthrJack
http://www.beta10.com/oppcomxp.htm
I also said what I did based upon personal experience with XP. It has crashed for no good reason out of games, MS apps, trying to load a perfectly good floppy, and the list goes on. I do know ME was made with core Win2000 technologies. It's rare it it ever crashes, and I honestly can't recall the last time I saw a BSoD.

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Screenshot of when I tweaked my computer to run at it's best. Every time I bootup I have 90+%. And yes, I do run both a firewall and virusscanner.

@rnj7

with the specs you posted windows xp might not be a bad idea, go with the flow.

worst os, i dont think so

i never had a problem with any os crashing.

i am sorry, but this is how i feel about this sort of thing
it's all those dell, sony, hp, etc users who complain about every single little hicup

ME was the worst mistake MS ever made, thats if you upgraded anything, I say it again, DON"T UPGRADE install like a new version no matter what you're going to. Theres links and tips on how to do it even with upgrade CD's. Upgrade just keeps the old garbage laying around dormant. Format and do a clean install. I been there with the upgrade from 98 to SE also, within a week format and install like it was full version.

BTW
XP is the thing if your comp don't SUCK as mentioned above. I played several game's with the upgrades well over 2 years with it on the ZONE and anyone ever played there knows its a nightmare, especially on dial-up. I didn't have any problems. I've never seen a BSOD in XP except when i was running a GE Force 16 vid card several years back, but thats all over the net about it crashes PCs.

Its not real XP users reporting XP is bad. Its the MS haters dude.

And on that OPPCOM = Looks like worthless programmers to say something like that. Not a groupie are ya? I got 100 acres south of Florida i'd like to sell.

rnj7
That looks like a good setup so best get XP man witht that. Watch out for those store people though, they'll sell ya their grandma.


Why heck i'll help ya

Just answering the first question, you can install 98SE over any 98 installation by simply renaming the file win.com to anything else (like win.old) then boot from the 98SE installation CD.

When the setup asks about the installation dir (since it detects the \windows dir already present), select "Other", on the next dialog it allows to edit the destination dir.

It will present "C:\WINDOWS.000", just delete the ".000" part and setup will continue. It will install over the "old" 98 installation, but will preserve all software installed and user settings. You will end up with 98SE with everything as it was with the previous 98 install. This won't be an upgrade, it will register as a full install. The win.com rename trick just tricks the setup to perform a full install.

HTH

I think the NTFS OSs r great... there r always iddues with an OS though, that's just normal. Ur PC specs have a lot to do with how ur machine's OS operates, and for that u should meet the OS' requirements. If u have a Dino, just spend 400 bucks and get something new.... it will be well worth it. And on another note, if u end up going to XP, DON"T GET HOME!!! XP HOME SUCKS!!!



Later

hi there i dunno what Pent pro.11X600 means
but looking at other stuff i cannot judge what u'd prefer.
500+ ram is always good.
but that 2gb hdd its bad (if its not a partition)
I'd imaging its like 4500rpm or something. i well know that when i moved from 5400rpm to 7200 rpm it felt like i upgraded my whole pc. so if its 4500 don't install os's like 2000/xp. or get a faster hdd or if your 40gb hdd is faster swap the drives.

about the crashing.
95/98/98se/me crashed frequently about the same.
2000/xp --> I've managed to crash them billions of times now, well less than 9x series. but there are some reasons behind that. if u do everthing in order it won't really crash. sometimes u use lots of rams for 1 app and do some other ram eating job. well sometimes it doesn't respond. and u click x,x minimize ctrl alt delete. NO, just wait for a while for the other process to finish!!!!. this way it won't crash
this waiting process is dependent on many things.
some apps use lots of cpu, and those probably use lots of ram as well.
some apps just use the hdd. (i mean like defragging programs) when it defrags (diskeeper) your computer will be slow as a turtle.
on the other hand if u're writing a cd the cpu and ram will be used very much. and so on.
so u got to wait for a while when launching apps, and I've to tell u if u have many programs running its better to wait for them to finish instead of trying to close them. closing them ends up in higher cpu and ram times. so wait!!!.
also in games, they don't crash. if they crash the game company releases a patch for it. its nothing wrong with xp. its just the game company couldn't make it compatible. they find the problems and fix them. unless u're using warez stuff its not likely that it will crash.

sometimes some apps crash bc windows tries to increase the virtual memory thus causing the memory to be wiped. this might cause in crashing the games and programs...

after all its not hard to crash an os. I've crashed mac's as well. the one's I used (g4) were very slow. it takes ages to even open up internet explorer/acrobat etc...
don't blame the os for everything. everyone is trying to make best out of it.

if u're going to upgrade to something upgrade to xp. as HyDeNCiTy mentioned if u have some money saved u're better of just upgrading.
nowadays most motherboards have most of the things on board. so get a good mb. if u play games get a geforce 4(I'm saying this bc they very cheap these days, and the qualities are ok) and get some 512+ ram.
well keep the mouse/keyboard/modem/monitor/etc stuff.
400-500 would be fine. companies like dell/etc. have great deals for prices like that....

nothing wrong with Home version and its cheaper... if u don't intensly use networking/etc (stuff that comes with pro) u should be okay with home.

athlon's would be a cheaper solution for u but u've the issue of temperature and don't say its just temp I don't care about it, its important. b4 i got a cool fan, temp was crazy and my os often crashed.(well there were some other reasons as well....main reason temperature..)

etc... look at pricegrabber/pricewatch/ etc.. if u want to make your own pc.... good luck..

I've been using XP since it came out and I've never had problem one with it. All of my games and programs work perfectly, even a lot of old DOS games. I don't recall ever having a crash with it and I run it 24/7. If it is crashing all the time I would suspect the hardware rather than the OS itself. As for Me it was the worst experience I ever had with a computer. It's based on the DOS/Windows 9x code base also, not 2000 as was previously mentioned. As for XP Home vs Pro, I don't really understand why so many people think "Home Edition sucks". It does not, and it is not based on Windows 9x like I've heard a lot of people say. It's the same as XP Pro, just with fewer features (most of which the average home user will never miss). Plus it's a lot cheaper as just mentioned.

If the computer is reasonably modern I would definately go with XP. If it is too old to run XP I would use Windows 98 SE. Just my opinions though.