@mazin so you just renamed liveupdate v2.5 (lusetup.exe) to lsetup.exe and put it in ...\CommonAppData\Symantec\LiveUpdate\LuMMInst as a replacement. and thats it? Good job. I will try when I install VMware on my newly install unattended setup.

Excellent work Mazin! That did the trick.

@drthawhizkid

Yes, just renaming. No extraction required.

@big poppa pump

So, no more investigation about switches.

@Cee-Kay

Thank you very much for your time trying to help.
Now, it's much easier. Stay for harder missions.

LMAO!

Don't count on it.

So I do not have a licence. So how can I solve my problem? please

I'm sure it's easier to use the packager included with v9, but I need the project files from v8.1 to use it cause symantec "forgot" to put them on the cd. I'd like to test that so if anyone could send me the files to thauzar@videotron.ca it would be very appreciated.

So sorry. I don't have any packager.

Symantec didnt forget, Packager is discontinued since version 9. Dunno why.

Hey mazin did you try deleting the rest of the files in ...\CommonAppData\Symantec\LiveUpdate\LuMMInst and just leaving your renamed liveupdate setup

I told him. But he believes that the packager of 8.1 can work for 9. I'm not sure if this is possible, however.

@drthawhizkid

HUH? Do you have good news about that? I didn't try it.

@mazin

No not yet. I'm gonna try it in vmware though.

Nope that doesn't work. SAV does not finish the install in that case.

Thanks big poppa pump. I will keep the files then and was just about to test it you be me to punch.

**** it why doesn't anyone listen to me instead of repeating the same old thing I already know. LISTEN and learn: quoted from symantec website




This is exactly my case. Yes packager is no longer supported in v9.0 BUT it still is distributed on the cd as you can see in the attached screenshot. The ONLY THING MISSING are the files that they "forgot" to put on the cd and that's why I've been asking here for a week for some kind 8.1 corporate user to send me those darn project files from his packager. CAUSE THAT'S THE SOLUTION FROM SYMANTEC. All I got yet is denial and people telling me this is warez... come on guys... (and mazin thanks for your help but if you don't have v8.1 you could do nothing more)

It's not because it's no longer officially supported that this will not work, and since nobody tried yet we wont know before I do it. Now if anyone can understand what i'm saying, please take some time to look through your old cds, find SAV v8.1 and zip me the project files that comes with packager. You can mail them at thauzar@videotron.ca


Thanks to all who took their time to answer!

I hope I get a star like he does for LOOKING FIRST ON OFFICIAL SITES, before saying anything untrue like "packager is discontinued" if it was discontinued it would not be on the CD

no harsh feeling about this buddy

Thank you Thauzar!

I added the French links you PMed me for people who are interested.

Just a stupid question, is there a French version for LU 2.5, too?

Well, I guess so cause mine looks like v2.0 not 2.5
the link is as followed
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/francais/li...e/lu_2.0_fr.zip


But the renaming method worked perfect with v2.0

EVERY FRENCH USER SHOULD BROWSE THROUGH ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/francais/ to find their files and BE CAREFUL to download the Symantec Antivirus CE v9.0.0.1400 FR (WITHOUT b, 9.0.0.1400 FRb)
The version with a "b" at the end is no beta but is for licensed versions, the one without a "b" is the one you need here. (mazin did you corrected the link I sent you yesterday?)



And for anyone new to this post, the guide you need to follow is hidden somewhere in those 15 pages, say Hocus Pocus and it should appear Don't forget to edit the code to fit the french names of the files you downloaded!

Updated Sir! Thanks.

Wish you good luck with PMI files.

The worst part is that I often get the feeling i'm doing all this for nothing. Installing NAV pro 2004 worked fine, but I wanted the auto liveupdate feature I heard we could use with packager. Now I installed corporate 9 and I still have to manually live update. I wish the mythic packager will solve all my questions but for now I have to wait At least I am learning new stuff during that time, and I still saved 30mb installing corporate edition instead of pro. The only difference I noticed yet are the graphics are not the same and the Recycle Bin is not protected.

Anyone ever tried the packager from 8.1 and lived to tell the tale?




EDITED 4 hours later: I guess not...

Just wanted to mention that the current solution works for me. After instalation SAV is all updated.

I can put the 8.1 files on the net. Plz PM me for the adres.

@Thauzar

Check this file and see if it's LU 2.5 French version:

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/francais/li...ate/lusetup.exe

Update: LU 2.5.56 is now available. Stay on the same link. Previous one was LU 2.5.55.

Nope it says that the version I have is already up to date!

If you ran LiveUpdate with 2.0, it would say it's up to date. Heck, when 2.0 was the current version, I had to manually update all my PCs from 1.8 because it said they were up to date.

Anyone knows how to update the scan engine? I have 9.0.1.1000 on two computers and on one the scan engine is 1.2.0.13 and on the other one it is 1.1.0.13. One of the computers with the newer scan engine had SAVCE 9.0.0.1400 before, but I uninstalled it and installed 9.0.1.1000 instead.
----UPDATE----
It worked when running liveupdate and then unloading the service and reloading the service again. The scan engine version displayed is the currently loaded.
----END UPDATE----

By the way, according to Symantecs guide to slipstream the update patches you can not have SAVCE installed on the machine where you are patching it with setup /a.

That makes sense (regarding creating the AIP on a system without SAV installed).

I think the newer scan engine comes with the 9.0.0.1400 patch, as the one computer I've got SAV9 installed on is also using 1.2.0.13.

Forgot to include the virusdefs update in my AIP before I packed it together so the first liveupdate updated it, but the version of the scan engine does not change until you reload the service. I will try to copy in the new lusetup.exe -> lsetup.exe too to get everything updated at once. Else I have this installed ok so far:


Here is the WinRAR SFX setting to unrar it silently if you need it. Just select all files -> Right click -> Add to archive -> Check SFX -> Change comment to my comment below and choose Best compression to save some bytes

I had some problem with the %SystemDrive% at first, but this works.

Only one thing left for me to fix...
Anyone knows how to change the udpates from every week to every day instead? Can it be made as a switch or do I have to add some reg-tweaks after the install?

jbourgui posted some tweaks for it, here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...ndpost&p=180255


Same for me.

Just so you guys know, if you're willing to do some MSI hacking, you can actually remove all of the other files in the LuMMInst directory. Just make a note of the file names so you can remove their references using Orca or WinINSTALL LE.

I've also been able to repack lsetup.exe to extract silently, as it's nothing but a WinRAR SFX archive. Unfortunately, I've also tried editing Settings.Default.LiveUpdate to have Express mode enabled by default, but that setting for some reason didn't appear to stick.

I've tested all of this out and it works beautifully. With the 9/11/04 virus defs, my whole SAV install package is 11.7MB 7-zip compressed.

Thanks RyanVM. I was figuring you could do that I just haven't had the time to try myself.

It's really strange, but I double checked and the readme (lisezmoi) file in the lusetup2.0.zip and in the liveupdate folder (the one you sent me) are both saying it's v2.0 dated december 2003... I don't know what else to do or say...

And to RyanVM, it's not live update telling me it's up to date but the installer itself, when I manually tried the file mazin sent me from the french folder on symantec's ftp.

So I hope they are currently working on releasing the other lu setup in the other languages... anyone here not on an english system too?

Ah, I thought you were replying to mazin saying that 2.5.56 was out.

Does anybody know how to change LiveUpdate settings so it's installed with them in place?

I pulled Settings.Default.LiveUpdate from the SFX archive and found the relevant keys (PREFERENCES\EXPRESS_MODE\ENABLED=YES and such), but after modifying the keys and repacking the file into the archive, it seems to completely ignore those settings once LiveUpdate is actually installed. Anybody have a clue how to make the settings stick?

I dont know if I`m stating the obvious here, but I made a SFX of the whole sav91400 directory, opened the SFX, pressed ALT-M and added the




then, modified the installation batch file as follows. This uncompresses the SFX file, changes to that folder and runs the sav.msi as normal.



This compresses the entire SAV91400 from 51.5Mb uncompressed to only folder to 19.8Mb.

When finished just delete the SFX file and SAV folder.

I have been trying to install this automatically, but until I read and tried Mazins Guide I couldnt do it.

Compression idea is good of course as it saves more space.

Execuse me! Have you got problems with my guide?

No, not a problem with your guide at all, thats what I was saying, I couldnt get SAV 9 to install , then found your guide and it works now.

Oh, that's good. I was just confused.

Thanks for confirmation.

But then again I fail to see why use 2 steps when they can be combined into one. Use the installation switch from the sfx itself.

Heh, my SFX install (7zip based) is 11.7MB

Still no luck on the LiveUpdate settings, though

my rar sfx is about 16.6MB which is decent for me. I'm waiting for 7-Zip to add some features and WinRAR will go bye-bye.

About the only thing 7-zip's SFX module is missing at this point IMO is the ability to be completely hidden during extraction. Also, I'd like it if it were able to directly execute MSI files instead of needing msiexec to do it. Igor told me in email that he might put that into a future version.

Well I disagree about the features missing. I think adding your own icon, specifying your own directory (inside the sfx) and ability to edit them later are the three features I really want. I'm been WinRAR fan for so long. Its hard to turn from that. Although I appreciate 7zip compression especially when using Inno Setup. Hehe.

I hear ya about the MSI executation. I been wanting that too, but ya know thats not gotta happen.

Sorry but I still need help installing the SAV9

Version sac911000.exe

what do I use for the silent install for this sac911000.exe one. Its in an .exe format.

can someone help me out with this one for an unattended install...

It's probably a self extracting EXE. Try opening it with WinRAR.

screamer run the setup cancel and look in your system drive for a directory called sav_setup files or something. Then you can create an admin point from there.

I don't know how you did it but my SAVSource installation folder is 42.5Mb (including the most recent virus defs and Intelligent Updater (around 8Mb)) How can any of you compress this using 7zip to get to 11Mb sfx? I tried at ultra compression, with 255 word lenght and 48 word size (or something like that) and I still got a 27Mb file... any hints?

What's the difference between LiveUpdate and IntelligentUpdater? Symantec's site is so clear and full of explanations... (I'm being sarcastic here) But since both are updating the virus def, I don't need both, maybe one is automatic and LiveUpdate is manual? Then why do I have to manually download the new intelligent updater file?

Source: SAV Help!

I was just going to respond to your post saying that I was unable to reproduce now that I've "come into" a copy of 9.0.1.1000 . It shows scan engine 1.2.0.13 here on a clean (read: fresh XP install in VirtualPC with no AV software prior) install here. Apparently it does for you too, though .

ryanvm, check out my post: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...20&#entry180255

it details how to change settings for default scan options, scheduled scans, and Live Update settings. it's not an elegant .msi integrated solution, but it works.

-joe