i had slipstream

i put the patch inside the folder of sav and use the instrociuns to run

this is a bit confuse

i do this

firsst i copy all the from cd (sav 9) to a folder called sav then i download the patch that i exctract from the zip and put inside the folder sav then i give commmand.

first when i gone run said that he cant install the patch because are any software installed
second with this metod i demonstrate simply pass trough way withou any error or installation

last night i install this about 10 times with vmware different ways but no result

As I can understand, you didn't create the AIP first. Correct?

Why people cannot follow simple instructions? I'm starting to understand why people like big poppa pump are so mean with newbies. Damnit this threat is about a guide, Maybe it should be more evident on page 1 or something... else you ask question AFTER you tried all the steps...

Look man it's simple (btw don't copy and paste my code, the names are for french versin of SAV9

remote.cmd is run on the first line of runonceex



Then RunOnceEx



Like the guide said, first I create the AIP with remote.cmd before installing anything else on the system, then, at the end of my installation (or when you want to) I install sav. SAV9.cmd goes as followed



I had to to this cause in french, when SAV installs liveupdate, it asks me to press OK after telling me it was gonna install liveupdate (duh!) So I had to write a nice autoit script, this is SAV9.exe that runs just before the SAV installation is started.

This is my SAV9.au3 wich is compiled to SAV9.exe


That's it, see, i had trouble of my own, I followed the method and found myself the steps to get around it, with a bit of help from mazin and others but hey, that's why there is a forum. You should maybe learn to try a bit more before asking for predigerated food to be gently spit in your mouth

And your runonce ex code has two "" "" on the same line, where did you see such a code here to install any program? nowhere... check your syntax!


glad I could help

Thauzar, cool down please. Getting flustered won't help anyone. (nor replies saying "I was NOT flustered", lol).

As for the guide, see the first post of this thread - its right there, thanks to mazin.

Hi
The slipstream works just fine , does any one know what option I shall use to upgrade a previous installation sillent eg. build 9.00 to build 9.01.1100 (9.01 + MP1)?
-Peter

call down boy i could a newbie from the post but i follow this unattended this forum along time go

i only made posts if i have any issue .

could you see i track this forun about 1 year and see my post , just a few .

dont be offend

we are always learn until death

and thanks for the explicity guide

i have sac 9.1.1000 there is any update for this ?

everything works
thanks to all

the patch that is mencioned is for previuos sav (338) or works in 1.100 ?

this is the update patch for v9.0.1.1000 and it will update it to v9.0.1.1100

Yes, and the patching method is the same as we discussed for 338.

@parathml I must still mention that I WAS NOT FLUSTERED. I hate those people getting mad at others because they ask question. I don't think this is a nice attitude and I even posted against some angry nerds on another thread. If I was that type of person I would not have taken 10 minutes of my time to go through my code and make an explanation! It's just a fact that people tend to ask question first and not look for the answer themselves. And I probably did that on other threads too, I am human. That's why I helped him out! Now this is the net guys, not some country club where we can see each other's face over a bucket of beer. So please do a little interpretation effort before tagging everyone with "flustered" or "cool down", I simply mentionned that it's type of question was the newbie type and that I can understand (note: understand, not agree) why some people get mad at them, not to insult him but just to show him that a simple look would have answered his question. I still took my time to help him out so bug off my case god **** it! Do you always smile and talk nice to people, with flowers raining from the sky and lovebirds singing your joy to live??? I guess so, your Bob, but I'm Gigabyte and for my part the answer is no, sometimes I'm direct, sometimes I'm serious, and I don't have to be SOOOOO nice to answer a question, my answer was the best explanation or resumé of the method I could provide, I even included my personnal autoit solution to it! This was totally free, the results of my efforts to learn and I added it to the method cause I want to help too. So next time instead of jumping of your chairs because you saw "newbie" (oooooo a bad word.... there is worst things going on in Irak and Haiti...), take the time to appreciate the effort I made, even if it was made with my "just-out-of-bed" smile.


Cheers

@jinquinto that's why I helped, and that's why under my pic it's written 2nd star LEARNER.

And to go back to topic... anyone know when Symantec plans to release it's multilang. update of SAV? I'm stil waiting for the french version to come out and I haven't found any info about that during my quick search of symantec's site. The ftp is down this morning, maybe they are updating the files or not loll

Just so you guys know, patching the AIP with the 9.0.1.1100 patch appears to not overwrite vpc32.exe with the updated build (hence the screenshot I had earlier showing two different builds). The MSI file ends up with duplicate entries for vpc32.exe, one with the correct version number and one incorrect. If you install the MSP after the fact on a normal SAV install, it updates vpc32.exe just fine.

So basically, to fully update it, you have to edit the MSI to remove the outdated entry for vpc32.exe and you need to replace vpc32.exe with the updated build.

Hi
I have just talked with our support for Symantec AV, and they told me that they have reported several bugs in 9.01, among others a bug in the msi packed because that it just can't se that you are running a previos 9.0x build. A new and hopefully better vertion 9.02 should be shipped with in a week or 2.

Peter

Anyone have any idea how to switch the management server when upgrading? Right now I'm running this:

SAV.msi /qb ADDLOCAL=SAVMain,SAVUI,QClient INSTALLSERVER=0 NETWORKTYPE=1 SERVERNAME=SAVSERVER2 ENABLEAUTOPROTECT=1 RUNLIVEUPDATE=0 REBOOT=REALLYSUPPRESS /l*v c:\TEMP\SAV.txt

It works fine... updates old versions... installs cleanly on new PCs. The old server (SAVSERVER1) is used to manage old versions. When I run this update on them, after it's installed it's still pointing at the old management server, not the new one. When I run it on a clean machine, it installs and points at the new server. How do I get it to switch the server when performing an upgrade and not a clean install?

Hi EclipseGSX
If you are using 9.x you can just drop and drag between you managementservers.

Btw: I got this from our support it should work when you are upgrading from 8.xx to 9.xx (I have not testet it.) This string did not work for me when I tried to upgrad a 9.0 build 338 to 9.01.1.100. I gues that you can put in you parent server in the string.

*.msi RUNLIVEUPDATE=0 MIGRATESETTINGS=0 REBOOT=ReallySuppress /qn

I hope this helps you futher.

Peter

Thank you for the quick reply, pesko. I tried the MIGRATESETTINGS parameter, but that didn't seem to affect the outcome. I'm trying to avoid having to run a manual uninstall first, as there are different versions on all 300 machines I'm looking to upgrade (7.61, 7.62, 8.1.1).

What was that about a parent server? Should I throw that in the command line too?

Thanks,
Eclipse

Hi
In vertion 9.x you can move client from parent server by drop and drag in older vertions you have to copy a new grc.dat file to the server you want to move.
Symantec recomand that you install the client vertion on you servers and client if you dont want them to be parent server.

According to Symantec Support you should uninstall when upgrading from 7.x to 8.x or 9.0.
I have uninstalled and upgraded over 100 servers and workstations and you will proberly have to run the nav uninstall script on 5-10% of your servers/workstations or uninstall SAV manually.

Peter

The drag and drop feature in V9 is certainly long overdue. I almost forgot that we couldn't do that before.

Anyway, I would suggest installing SCC on a workstation that you do most of your management chores from. It works just fine under XP SP2. In fact I made my own mmc console that includes SCC with all of my MS admin pak consoles all in one.

Need some help...

After installing the Lusetup.exe file (downloaded from the first page) to update Live update to ver 2.5, I get a folder popping up called C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec, every time I boot into Windows.

After doing a little research, it appears that Lusetup.exe creates a second folder in Program files (C:\Program Files\Symantec) instead of using the default (C:\Program Files\Symantec AntiVirus). Is this correct? Anyone have any idea what is causing the folder C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec to open when starting Windows?

No, this doesn't seem to be because of an updated live-update. I have this happening even if I use the default files, and default install.

Same here prathapml. I just created a reg file to fix this during my unattended install. Works perfectly.

I don't have this problem.

You can't be right about LU because it doesn't start with Windows.

.....care to share?

Hmm..

I followed the instructions in the first post on the first page, but got this error when running "remote.cmd":



I think I have Symantec Antivirus Corporate v9.0.1.1000
What do I need to do?


Here's my remote.cmd:

Quote: I get a folder popping up called C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec, every time I boot into Windows.

I had this problem before and also I couldnt even install norton 2003 or 2004.

Here is the reason why.

While going through the forum I found a reg tweak to speed up the partition.
one of the tweaks was to disable the 8.3 naming. BIG MISTAKE!

It is cause of this norton 2003 and so on kept giving me a error of the program being modified and on SAV the folder kept opening, anf the systray icon wouldnt show cause the path was in a 8.3 format. (C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec)

I undid the tweak and no more probelm. Excpet I had to reinstall XP.

See! People cause problems to themselves and say it's this or that app.

After reading all those similar complaints, which don't happen to me, I started to feel like I'm the only anomaly in this world.

Thanks for clarifying this.

I'm who needs to do something, really. If you downloaded the MSP mentioned in the guide, then this is the problem. It's not for your version.

so i'm already "updated"?

also, slightly off-topic: does symantec antivirus automatically run liveupdate like nav does? or do i have to run it manually? ( i dont mean the first time, i mean in general)

@RyanVM here you go .

@smc1979 I disagree with you. I have had this problem and I don't use this tweak disabling ntfs 8.3 naming. Tried on clean computer and virtual machine.

Well thats the problem I had, only with the 8.3 format. havent had it since

Also what is the code fix for? cause that isnt in the 8.3 format

;Symantec Antivirus System Tray Fix
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"vptray"="\"C:\\Program Files\\Symantec AntiVirus\\VPTray.exe\""

Mine is in the 8.3 format and no problem.

You can find more on nortons website. they even tell you about the 8.3 format and why not to disable it.

this is the tweak that will do it and mess it up.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem]
"NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation"=dword:00000001

should be
"NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation"=dword:00000000
for it to work right. check your reg and see what it is set to.

Hello,

I am confused as to the differences between Symantec AntiVirus (v9) and Symantec Norton AntiVirus (2005). Are both updated/secure/reliable virusscans?

Do either of them have features that the other does NOT have?

I have, in the past, used NAV, but I just got SAV to see it, and it appears (to my untrained eye) to be NAV without the eye-candy. Is this the only difference?

Does SAV auto-update the virusdefs like NAV? Or do I have to manually start LiveUpdate to get the processes started?

Is it OK to use SAV on a single home computer?

Sorry if this is a little off-topic but it is important for me to understand the differences between these two products.

Thanks!!

Good morning everyone happy? Good, I took the time to read the last 4 pages of this post and look what I found? the answer to a06lp's question! So I am glad to post him where to look. Have a great and marvelous day everyone

cheers


@a06lp: look here man, mazin explained it all. And concerning the autoupdate feature, look again a but further down the same page, me and SMC are giving our codes for the reg file

Hope that helps

@Thauzar
Ya, ok... we got the message, huh? lol.
You ARE cheerful.

@a06lp
I was just about to link to the same posts, that thauzar did above. Beat me by a few minutes, lol. Shows what happens when you don't refresh a page for a long time.

thank you both!

@smc1979 I checked in my reg when you first said something about that tweak. It isn't in my reg file thats why I said what I said.

Is there a switch that tells the installer for SAV 9.0 to uninstall any previous versions first, then start clean? If not, can you point me in the direction for an uninstall script that will cleanly remove any versions <9.0 (7.61 being the earliest)?

Thank you.

Hi EclipseGSX
Get nonav (Symantec uninstall/cleanup tool) from Symantec golden support, you will need it anyway.

Peter

I ended up just having the batch file call a registry script to clean the old server out of the registry, then copied over a GRC.dat to the client so it configures itself the rest of the way from that.

Now that that's out of the way

Does anyone know the ADDLOCAL command to include the firewall if you're using the 9.0 CE w/ firewall package? Right now I've got this line in my installer:
ADDLOCAL=SAVMain,SAVUI,QClient

What would I add to have it install the Symantec Client Firewall too?

Thanks.

This will leave out the help for both clients and the Lotus Notes snap-in for SAV. Note that the "AntiSpam" is necessary for the ad blocking portion of the firewall. There is no antispam functionality however. It seems to be a leftover from Norton Internet Security 2004 code.

This is straight from the Client Installation Guide by the way, which I think you can download from Symantec.

Thank you for the quick reply. I was wondering about that AntiSpam option. If I don't include it then it shouldn't affect anything, right?

Pesko,

Could you post a link to that tool. I believe that could be very useful to a lot to folks!

Thanks ,

JM

pesko Posted on Oct 5 2004, 02:04 AM
Hi EclipseGSX
Get nonav (Symantec uninstall/cleanup tool) from Symantec golden support, you will need it anyway.

Peter

@EclipseGSX I must have missed the mail notification that this thread updated. Yes, if you leave out the AntiSpam from your command line nothing will go wrong. You just wont have the adblocking features of the firewall.

Ok guys I have a rather BIG problem here with SAV.

I have used my custom XP cd on about 20 test computers now.
On EVERY single one of them the page file is messed up. you can set the size but it always resets after reboot.

So I needed to find out what was doing it.
I started the install step by step, once I got to the SAV install and after it was finished the page file would reset ofter reboot.

I then would uninstall SAV and the page file worked again.

I had to make sure it wasnt something else and EVERY time it has been when SAV is installed.

Below is a pick of the page file.
As you see I have it set to 1024x1024
but the actual size isnt that! but if I uninstall SAV it will be.

I have googled this and found other people who have this pagefile problem but no one says if they have SAV or not.

My current build of SAV is 9.0.0.1400
This is the command line that is used to install it at first login

start /wait %systemdrive%\customxpsetupinstall\setup.msi /qb REBOOT=REALLYSUPPRESS RUNLIVEUPDATE=0

I cant find any info on nortons website on the pagefile.

Since so many here have SAV would you be as so kind as to see how your pagefile is doing and report back?

Maybe I can get this fixed!

I'll be darned. I never noticed this before. Exact same results on the pagefile over here. And I appreciate someone bringing it to my attention. This is just another straw on the camel's back with me and Symantec.

Beware, slightly off-topic rant follows:

If you are running Symantec Client Security V2 (this is the antivirus and the firewall client together), beware of the following KNOWN YET TOTALLY UNDOCUMENTED ANYWHERE BUG:

Try this out. Install SCS2 on a Windows 2000 Server or XP Pro computer. Service Pack level does not matter. Boot the computer and when it gets to the CTRL-ALT-DEL screen do not log in. Now initiate a Remote Desktop session to the computer from another computer. Have you noticed just how pokey everything is yet? Take a look in Task Manager. CCAPP.EXE is pegging the CPU.

Now log in to the computer locally, that is from the keyboard. Now initiate your Remote Desktop session. Everything is fine.

I spent over a month of back and forth e-mail, several extended tech support calls, and several weeks of the most indescribeable aggravation imaginable trying to diagnose why only sometimes would the CPU get pegged. Finally Symantec admitted to me that this is a known issue and in fact is the very reason that they do not officially support the firewall client end of the product on a server OS (since people generally terminal service to a server rather than sit down at it).

So I asked why this was not documented anywhere that even a front line tech could find it, and got no answer. I asked if this was currently a priority issue they were trying to resolve. I was told in so many words that Remote Desktop was a new feature and it would take time to work it out. A NEW FEATURE?!? XP has been out for over THREE YEARS. Windows 2000 Server? What like 5 1/2 years now?

I have often bet my a** on Symantec's products and have recommended their products to countless people, individuals, private businesses, government agencies. I'm starting to feel a little like the guy in my avatar for making those recommendations. And that's too bad, because other than this issue and profoundly terrible documentation, I have always found Symantec's products very competent and of high quality.

Well since I doubt there is a fix for this I am in a need to replace my antivirus. I want one that works good, so far I have heard good things about AVG.

I would love some recommendations on other antiviruses to use.

Symantec had my support for years now and I to always recommened them to my customers. But now I have been a programmer for 7 years and a Network admin for 9 and a pc repair tech for 10 (I am 25, been doing this for 10 years)

I have picked up a thing or 2, and symantec is slipping thats all there is to it.

I have never used another antivirus so I am rookie when it comes to others, All I know is I hate macfee so much that I wouldnt let my customers install it.

I'm going to be sticking with Symantec for those who already have bought it. The problems simply aren't severe enought to warrant change. It does after all stop viruses, etc. rather well. Also, I forgot to mention that my particular issue with ccapp.exe only rears its ugly head with the firewall client installed. SAV alone does not seem to have this problem.

For those who haven't made the investment (yes there are some), I'll be recommending Trend. Give it a look. It's a pretty nice system they have.

What about SAV 8.0?

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

I have to find out How SAV is messing up the page file. Not a single thing on there support site.

It has to be something. I wonder if it is a bug with auto protect?

Ok I am determaned to fix this.

Heres what I have found out so far. On my system I have 3 drives. I can control and set a page file on any drive without a problem except for the C:\ drive. My pagefile is on E and no problem. But if I try to do anything with C forget it.

So it appers to only affect C:\

Just to contribute a little to this discussion, I'm using NAV 2005 and my pagefile (on C drive) is not affected. It's set to 1.5GB, and that's the actual size. As for an alternative AV, have you looked at NOD32? I've been playing around with it and I like it. I switched to it initially when 2004 was out because of the extra overhead that 2004 had on my system (soooooo slow), but 2005 is out now and doesn't seem to have the same issues that 2004 had, so right now I'm testing them both (yes, at the same time on the same PC ) and neither one seems to be any worse than the other. I'll probably just stick with NOD32, but we'll see.