ok, well, first off extract nero6601.exe to a directory (preferably nero6601)

A couple of things first, if you have any reg settings you would like to add to the nero installation, export from your current registry and save as nero.reg. Put this file in nero6601 dir

create a cmd file called nero.cmd in nero6601 dir.

if you dont have cmdow, do a search on the board...or you can change it to @ECHO OFF

now, Im assuming you have 7zip already, so go into nero6601 folder and highlight everything, then go to "Add to Archive..."
in name, put nero.7z
archive format: 7z
Compression Level: Ultra
Compression Method: LZMA
Dictionary Size: doesnt really matter
Word Size: Doesnt really matter
Check "create solid archive"
NOTHING ELSE IS CHECKED.

Once done, erase everything EXCEPT nero.7z
Now, create a file called config.txt

Save As...and check that encoding is set for UTF-8

Now, download the attachment and copy it to the nero6601 folder...you should now have ONLY nero.7z, config.txt and nero.sfx in this folder...

nero.sfx has nero's icon in it so the setup file looks like nero's...rename nero.sfx to 7zSC.sfx

now, open a command prompt and goto your nero6601 dir...type


that should be it...for nve, rerun the steps...though if using both nero and nve, for a universal explanation, I included the reg file and cmd file in both nve and nero...though if you know about 7zip you could translate it so that only nero.exe has the cmd and reg file and nve uses only config.txt to run setup...but as I said, this is a universal explanation for both files (that way if someone only wants nve, the instructions are correct, and if someone wants only nero they are correct).

If there are any problems, please post them here...I will try and figure out whats going on as I may have skipped a step or 2...this should result in a 10mb less install for both nero and nve combined...Hope this helps some people out.

Thanks for your guide. Pretty straight forward. I managed to reduce my nero setup from 27MB (Winrar) to 21.7MB (7-Zip).
I do have some questions and tips to add.

1) You could tell people to leave multi-threading checked if they have a Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading. It could speed up their compressing speed up to 30%.
2) Is it a typo? Should'nt it be 7zSD.sfx, or it does'nt really matter what you call it.
3) I used your nero.sfx, but I'm also curious as to how you changed the icon. I would like to know how to put my own icons into *.sfx. Care to do another step by step guide.

Excellent job.

the "C" in 7zSC.sfx stands for Compressed...or upx compressed for what really happens there...to replace icons, open 7zS.sfx in resource hacker...goto Action -> Replace Icon, and basically chose the icon you wanna replace the default one with...then save...itll ask you for a name, just input 7zS.sfx (make sure not to save in the same dir as your install of 7zip)...now, just run upx..."upx -9 -o7zSC.sfx 7zS.sfx" as I said, C stands for compressed, which is the only reason its used...you may be able to call 7zSC or 7zS anything you want, but I dont just to make sure the install works correctly.

And if you don't have any registry settings to import, you can just put the "setup.exe /yadda yadda yadda" line in config.txt rather than creating a batch file.

@Evilvoice what a great tute worked great slashed about 8meg off the installer & installed in ten seconds. very good indeed.

So i just call this from RunonceEx with no switches as the nero.cmd contains the switches?

Edit: PS Brilliant guide and I may start using this 7Zip after this, its brilliant. actually forget my question ive tested it , and please a tutorial on how to make the icon SFX thing

Yes this is what Ive been longing to do just Havn't had the time to do so just excellent.

great post, worked like a charm plus it looks like an original nero exe thanks.

I just redone mine for ver6605 worked great & reduced by 7 meg!

7zip is a great compression tool, the only thing that prevents me to move from rar is the time i need to spent on creating a config.txt, and the .sfx module. also i like to keep my nero icon on my customized installation (yes i'm so picky... ). btw great guide

I second that. 7zip sfx modules need to progress more for me to switch.

Thanx everyone for the comments...Im glad people are now looking at it and trying it out...it does work wonders.

Truly..

WANTED:
wonder


DETAILS:
that extraction dialog with cancel button should go! (or atleast some switch to disable the cancel button from showing)

There's no switch to disable this yet... The author hasn't implement to switch to do this.

That's why its a wanted wonder.

I hv a couple of question Evilvoice

one is using the method u describe, where are the temp files extracted to.

two what is in 7zSC.sfx


Using the 7z414b.exe

I am using the 7zipSFX.exe w/ this sample coding

SFX extration to location on hard drive



then using wpi or runonceex.cmd

Run Setup



Delete Temp Directory

then using QuickBatch Compiler to make a ghost cmd.
I hv this code


I wanted to change the icon so i follow your instructions up until

upx -9 -o7zSC.sfx 7zS.sfx

where can i find the upx???

uhm, upx.sourceforge.net I believe...also, my 7zSC.sfx already has the nero icon.

temp files are extracted to %temp% and deleted WHETHER OR NOT setup actually works or not...I noticed this with testing mp10, if setup gave an error and exited, 7zip removed ALL files that were extracted (kinda annoying if youre troubleshooting)...but as far as my instructions, setup will finish no problem...hey asta, I noticed you have Quick Batch File Converter, do you think you could turn the .cmd file into an exe? tho I guess it doesnt really matter either way since I dunno how much space it would add.

With my guide, you can cut out all those steps and just run the resulting exe file and everything else will be done for you.

Don't worry... Winrar will offer similar ratio compression on next version

Let's hope so. Though its doubtful

Using winrar will hugely simplify things - its SFX module has class .

winrar hasnt offered it yet, i dont see them offering it soon.

i agree, let's hope an increment of rar's compression ratio or an upgrade on 7zip sfx modules

@evilvoice: TNX for this guide to be recommended

Just a confirmation.
It is normal that during the install (not UA) i've the 7z extration bar displayed and a DOS windows opened and closed about the end of the installation??

Cheers
coucou

im guessing so, cuz u cant hide the 7zip sfx bar & he probly has a command file being executed

TNX MCT
and what about when UA installion, does will be realy silent???
Cheers
coucou

the 7zip extraction box will always be there until the programmers figure out a way to hide it...and I thought I included the command to hide the cmd window with cmdow...but if you dont use that file, then yes, you will probably see the command window open. I dont really watch my computer when it is installing, as long as I dont have to press anything, its good for me...I use this method to save some space without taking anything out of nero to make it smaller.

EDIT: sorry I did not respond earlier, I did not see your post before...

if u use quick batch file converter u dont see the cmd windows

@evilvoice: I included the command in the cmd file but i do not include the cmdow file inside the nero.7zx archive because i've it in "c:\windows\system32 folder".
Should i include the cmdow file inside the nero.7zx archive too???

@Astalavista: do u mean if the cmd file is converted then the 7z extration bar displayed and a DOS windows opened and closed about the end of the installation will be hiden??
BTW, it is possible to open and mofify the converted (cmd to exe) file? or should i reopen the cmd file modify it and reconvert it?


Cheers
coucou

i suggest that u search for quick batch file converter.

so many many many discussion on it already.

answer all your questions

with my office 7zip method do u see any popup box .... NO..

Here you go, just remeber to add your serial to config.txt and then save with utf-8 encoding. No need for the installer.cmd

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i asked by a member of this forum to post a 7-zip config for nero.

i think that was me... sorry evilvoice.

Thank you ALL (Astalavista, evilvoice, keytotime)!!!
I had success to totaly silent install w/o 7z extraction display

1) @keytotime: i tested yr config.txt+7zS.sfx files
- config.txt OK
- 7zS.sfx still display the 7z extract.
I had to generate a new 7zS.sfx by following this guide where you're involved too, then i compressed it to 7zSC.sfx it by using upx... It works!!!

2) Now i have something strange.
nero does not register the serial number, i must entering it manualy after the install.
What more starnge is, last week i prepared a nero archive following this evilvoice guide (with the nero.cmd), tested it working many times (except the 7z extraction display problem). Today, i installed it again... same problem is not registering the serial number too.

Cheers
coucou

Coucou did u get my PM?

is it working?

TNX Astalavista

Except I had to put my own 7zSc.sfx (here enclosed) with nero icon while yours is folder standard icon... IT's WORKING LIKE A CHARM!!!:thumbup

Check yr PM
coucou

where to get this file

look and u shall see.

open your eyes to a beautiful day made by god all mighty.



ooppss apparently all the old links to attachments are dead.

Is there any way, using this or a similar method, to include the entire Nero suite and perhaps slim down the source somewhat more?

As it stands, the current release of Nero + packages 1, 2, 3, etc. is over 150 megs in size. That wouldn't be a problem for someone with acess to a DVD burner, but for those of us that lack one, that eats of way too much space.

Just installing Nero is a good start, but if you need the other suite applications, like NeroMix, Nero WMA plug-in, etc. it eats up space way too fast on the CD. However, it makes little sense to install Nero with setup and to still have to go back after the unattended has finished and add all the other packages in the suite to it.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

untrue the total package size is only 50mb total with all the applications using 7zip method.
I have everything 7zip to a 50mb file. even the help files.

So, you have Nero SmartStart2, Express 6, BackitUp, SoundTrax, Image Drive, Burning Rom, Cover Designer, Wave Editor, Toolkit, NeroVison Express, Recode, Showtime, PhotoSnap, MediaHome, InCD, NeroMix, Nero Media Player, and Photoshow express all in your 7-zip file and with the help files its only 50MB?

If so, i'd like to know how to do so. When I mentioned the suite in my previous post, I meant the entire suite, i.e. all 6 packages.

all u hv to do is follow simonsay's nero guide and use 7zip

thats all not rocket science. it is easy.

hi guys



Sorry asking, but where is the attachment to download?
Nero.sfx..right?

hi guys!

I just tried this excelent guide with my nero6606 and i have a problem.

It begin to extract and after that a received a message in comand line-"cmdow" is not recognized as an internal or
external command, operable command or batch file"
and a windows xp setup message saying " Please go to control Panel to install and configure system components"

What can be wrong?

ths in advance

First of all you're kicking up a topic which has been dead for almost three (3) years!

"cmdow" is a small tool which lets you hide command windows. You can download it by looking for it on Google. I would advice you however to use "cWnd" instead as it's not detected as a virus by mistake such as cmdow is.

Use this instead http://www.msfn.org/board/Nero-Custom-Appl...tml&hl=ncab

hi guys

ths for your help...
but i'm new here and i'm learning with all those wonderfull ideas of your's..
i hope you forgive me to consult and make question about old things ...

hi guys

I hnow this thread is old , but if you don't mind i would like your help in a question

i have nero6606 and i create a exe file following the 1st post guide with nero.cmd.

It works fine but i would like that comand line window didn't appear

I tried like "coucou" and it installs but ask me for the serial, when i open nero burning rom, it doesn't register

can you give me an idea why it happens?
in the config.txt i have this code:

;!@Install@!UTF-8!
RunProgram="setup.exe /SN=xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx /WRITE_SN /SILENT /NO_UI /NOREBOOT /NOLICENSE /NOCANCEL"
;!@InstallEnd@!

ths for someone help

hi Kelsenellenelvian!

ths, but i already tried to follow that guide you indicate but it says that only support version 66016 or higher.

My version is 6.6.0.6...
Because of that i was trying to make the exe follying evilvoice guide...with the alterations of coucou...