ChunkDog
Nov 18 2004, 05:00 PM
There is a version of Half Life 2 being shared on Bittorent that was purposely released by Valve. They intend to gather info about you, and maybe prosecute you.
If your a warez-a-holic, its time you support the software companies for all the hard work and effort they put forth to bring you quality software that you know and love to rip off!
Mekrel
Nov 18 2004, 05:48 PM
Nice one, but I cant see how they can single you out , unless you have to supply address' and stuff during install?
Is HL going to have Punkbuster, or some othe anti cheat software which willnot enable those with fake/ duplicate keys to play?
I hope so, thats why I always ran my sof2 server with guids being checked
XtremeMaC
Nov 18 2004, 05:51 PM
and is this a rumor? or do u have a trustable source?
and why? i mean ppl can dl the game from steam as well, so i don't think this is true
SiMoNsAyS
Nov 18 2004, 06:20 PM
what really happened: a very known underground group that cracked the previous steam CS:S released a version that is able to connect to valve and validate the serial.
gabe newell (Valve Software Managing Director) sent a mail available to public: valve knows about that fix and have adapted steam to detect those versions: now if you try to validate the cracked HL2, your account will be erased, your ip will be blocked and the serial blacklisted. that's why there are floating around those "[nuked]" versions. i can't give more details about it because you know discussion about warez/cracks/serials is not supported by msfn and all of this information is not available at "official sites".
prathapml
Nov 18 2004, 06:24 PM
1.
Ppl can dl the game from steam, only if they have purchased it.
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CODE
Is HL going to have Punkbuster, or some othe anti cheat software which willnot enable those with fake/ duplicate keys to play?
I think their intention is to get you to play! (not prevent)
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QUOTE
Nice one, but I cant see how they can single you out , unless you have to supply address' and stuff during install?
No need for such - all they ever need is your IP address. Guess how RIAA served notices on heavy KaZaA users ?
Mekrel
Nov 18 2004, 06:51 PM
Yes but IP addresses are not always static are they?
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2.
Is HL going to have Punkbuster, or some othe anti cheat software which willnot enable those with fake/ duplicate keys to play?
I think their intention is to get you to play! (not prevent)
but they dont want people playing, who have not legally bought the game right?
ChunkDog
Nov 18 2004, 06:59 PM
[quote=Mekrel,Nov 18 2004, 06:51 PM] Yes but IP addresses are not always static are they?
[QUOTE] [/quote]
all they have to do is contact your ISP, find out who had the lease for the IP and what day, and, BAM!, your cought. It's quite easy really. If you give me your IP, I can find out your ISP and general location anywhere in the world with little to no effort at all.
MemnocK
Nov 19 2004, 11:21 PM
And I must add that : With your IP addresse they also have the MAC addresse of your computer (network card). So, if there is more than 1 computer in the house, they can know exatly witch one...
prathapml
Nov 20 2004, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (MemnocK @ Nov 20 2004, 10:51 AM)
And I must add that : With your IP addresse they also have the MAC addresse of your computer (network card). So, if there is more than 1 computer in the house, they can know exatly witch one...
No, that info is only with your ISP - who will only submit that info if there's a court summons.
XtremeMaC
Nov 20 2004, 05:46 AM
if only those who pay for it can dl the game from steam.
how come ppl pre-loaded it?
SiMoNsAyS
Nov 20 2004, 07:51 AM
@XtremeMaC, all the people can download the game from steam. the problem is that if you want to play you need to validate the key on valve servers (so you need to pay for it to buy the key). many people downloaded the game from steam and now the wait a way to crack the activation
XtremeMaC
Nov 20 2004, 09:23 AM
yes that's exatly what I am saying!
there is no need to dl the game from any torrent.. bc u can dl the game from steam. and when u dl it from steam u don't get a key which is same when u dl it from torrent.
so u can only play single player.. so u just would need a key gen and so if u've dled from a torrent everyone would have the same serial which will be blacklisted after 2-3ppl dl it, so i still don't believe valve would release it..
bc then this way everone will be able to play the single player for free!
and furthermore the torrents are shared all over the world. it would be so funny to see cops trying to get to ppls houses and search for copies of HL2 ahah

MS doesn't even do that, they only check the companies.. and since no company will buy a company license for HL

(hmm maybe if the owner wants the employee's to play hl2 on lan

)
Synapse
Nov 20 2004, 09:39 AM
I still don't understand the activation.. how hard would it be for someone to make a patcher for steam, tell it to connect to some other computer that just keeps saying any key is valid...? could play it single player... and maybe still get the server list from steam so can play online too...
*side note*..
isn't discussing warez against the rules...
techguy21801
Nov 20 2004, 10:35 AM
"not discussing warez"
but i give it a month at most and their will be a crack for it that will bypass all this
XtremeMaC
Nov 20 2004, 10:37 AM
how long till this topic gets locked?

go play Need for speed underground 2, i'm playing the carreer just got the celica
Shun Di
Nov 20 2004, 12:09 PM
*cough* I belive there already is a crack that emulates steem for HL2.
magicfly
Nov 20 2004, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (XtremeMaC @ Nov 20 2004, 05:37 PM)
how long till this topic gets locked?

go play Need for speed underground 2, i'm playing the carreer just got the celica

oh ****...on my pc it's too sloooooow!
how can it be possible?
Drewdatrip
Nov 20 2004, 01:35 PM
No mater what mode you play single or multi player the clent connects to the steam servers to verify the key.
As for this discussion it is heading towards some warzish type stuff, so watch your comments, the topic stated off with decent intentions.
I let this stand till somone askes for a crack
|Drew|
XtremeMaC
Nov 20 2004, 01:37 PM
QUOTE (magicfly @ Nov 20 2004, 01:15 PM)
QUOTE (XtremeMaC @ Nov 20 2004, 05:37 PM)
how long till this topic gets locked?

go play Need for speed underground 2, i'm playing the carreer just got the celica

oh ****...on my pc it's too sloooooow!
how can it be possible?
what do u mean??
everything is possible, there is nothing that is impossible eheh
lilweirddude
Nov 21 2004, 09:58 AM
well i actually bought it
but i cant play it!
dont laugh at me! lol
everytime i start hl2 or cs:s it just crashes to the desktop with no error messages
this sucks.....
prathapml
Nov 21 2004, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (lilweirddude @ Nov 21 2004, 09:28 PM)
everytime i start hl2 or cs:s it just crashes to the desktop with no error messages
Try checking whether your directX installation is fine, and up-to-date. And then whether your drivers are all the latest possible version. And lastly, that you have the minimum hardware required.
lilweirddude
Nov 21 2004, 04:13 PM
ok
specs:
amd athlon xp 2000+
geforce4 ti4200
768 mb ram
win xp
i have directx 9.0b but i think my card is 8 only
i updated my drvers too
now trying omega drivers...
prathapml
Nov 21 2004, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (lilweirddude @ Nov 22 2004, 03:43 AM)
i have directx 9.0b
Maybe that's what it is?
Since direct 9.0c is here, either upgrade to that, or install SP2 (for WinXP) which contains it.
lilweirddude
Nov 21 2004, 04:24 PM
heh, nevermind, i have 9.0c
argh, this really sucks
$60 wasted
may need to format but my unattended installation isn't finished!
Synapse
Nov 21 2004, 05:09 PM
maybe a stupid idea, but you may want to take out a stick of memory. you have a 512 and a 256, if they're not at the same Speed they may conflict with one another. just try it. i had issues with my memory (512 and a 128) took out the 128 and computer stopped crashing games and prorams.
lilweirddude
Nov 21 2004, 07:02 PM
actually i have 3 sticks of 256
they are all different speeds and crap lol
but they have never caused me any problems yet
guess i'll give it a shot
Synapse
Nov 22 2004, 03:35 AM
oh didn't think 3 sticks of 256 as mst of the mainboards i've seen only have 2 DDR and 2 SDRAM.. unless your using 2 of 1 type and 1 of another type.
Wedge1
Nov 23 2004, 03:27 PM
lilweirddude, are you using the latest video drivers?
EDIT: sorry, just reread the thread.
Weed
Nov 23 2004, 05:08 PM
maybe u need to change agp aperture size in bios or memory settings
which graphic card u use?
i also had a problem like that but on another game, i forgot what was the solution....think the settings in bios
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lilweirddude
Nov 23 2004, 11:31 PM
my card is a geforce4 ti4200 128mb
and i believe 4x agp
redder
Dec 6 2004, 06:02 PM
to lilweirddude:
That is pretty weird, my sugestion is reinstall XP and put the latest in drivers of your motherboard, dont use XP drivers for anything you cant find, then install 9.0c and try the game if it doesn't work it has to be some kind of hardware problem.
About Half-Life2... the game is available at Steam's site???
Anyway the hole activation thing is beyond invasion of rights, imagine you buy a pizza with a lock on it, and to get a slice you would have to go to the company for them to open it. People use the argument that pretty much everyone nowadays has internet, but thats not a good argument in my opinion, its just like CD protections which dont allow you to listen to a CD in your computer.
lilweirddude
Dec 8 2004, 05:10 PM
i found a solution
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Part 1 :
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Go in the directory :
E:\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\STEAM _ACCOUNT_NAME\half-life 2
there is a directory named "bin" that contains many .dll etc
Part 2 :
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Enter the "bin" directory and copy all the files (ctrl+A, ctrl+C)
go back at E:\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\STEAM _ACCOUNT_NAME\half-life 2
then paste the files here (Ctrl+V)
Part 3 :
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Select all the files and directorys (EXCEPT THE "BIN" DIRECTORY) in
E:\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\STEAM _ACCOUNT_NAME\half-life 2
Copy it !!!
Part 4 :
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No Go back in the "bin" directory then Paste the files and dir you've just copy
if windows tell you that there is files that have the same name so just overwrite it, as you want that's not seams to be a problem if you don't
Part 5 :
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Quit Steam
=> Reload Steam, right click : Games, right click on Half-Life 2 and Launch the game
the only thing that sucks is that you have to redo it everytime the game is updated
it also works for cs:s
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