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army20
Post what exam you did.
gamehead200
How do you apply? I'd like to do one of these exams... See how smart I really am! tongue.gif
army20
Buy a book, Go to Microsoft Click Prometric (that's the one i used). There's several school in montréal that can evaluate you. It cost about 200$ each exam
phoenix_nf
HEY army20, why dont you also post a description and details or atleast weblinks about these exams.

ill try researching on these and post links when i have the time. IF i have the time.
army20
Microsoft: here
Cisco: here
Network+, A+, Server+, Security+: here
Adobe: here
SUN: here
Oracle: here
RedHat: here
Macromedia: here

Need more ¿¿¿
phoenix_nf
Thanks smile.gif
ChunkDog
What about MCP, for the people who haved passed some tests in MCSA or MCSE.
army20
I know I forgot to include this line in my poll, sorry.

@ChunkDog: What exam have you completed ?
Jeremy
Don't have one. I dispise M$.
Shotgun
I don't have any certification, but planning to get at least the MSCE+I on 2003 and A+ and Network+
un4given1
QUOTE (army20 @ Dec 9 2004, 05:55 PM)
Buy a book, Go to Microsoft Click Prometric (that's the one i used). There's several school in montréal that can evaluate you. It cost about 200$ each exam

What ever happened to "get real world knowledge?" I hate book certified people. I have worked with too many of them. Here I am with no certs... I had people comming to me with certs asking me how to do things... Why? Because while they had read about it, they had never done it. Think you could read a book about driving and get in a car and drive it right away? Probaly not. Maybe you could read a book about brain surgery and be saving people's lives over night. Certifications just show you have the dedication to cram a crap load of information into your head in a short period of time. Real world experience will win every time.
Shotgun
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Real world experience will win every time

That's my attitude now.

I have also seen too many cert guys, asking me how to do things they should know! Things as basic as how to set up a login script for users!. That's something I learned a loooong time back with NT 3.5! Geez

Thing is that many employers look at the papers and not necessarily the experience, that's why I'm gonna try to get at least 1 certification. Not to "prove" that I know something, just to have equal opportunity when the time comes to look for a new job.
lordflyingpoo
none as of yet, but probably some of the material on those certification exams are here on msfn.
sonu27
I want to do this exam MCAD: Microsoft Certified Application Developer.
But I don't have a certification with Microsoft.
Wish I did.
May be in the future.
Too expensive.
matrix0978
I completely agree with un4given1 100%.

Theres no point to a certification. I mean there just papers saying you have some knowledge of computer. But how MUCH knowledge. And thats what most of the companies look for now-a-days. Just for a cert.

And i was thinking of getting a small one from Cisco. And when i get older i dont know. I might get anyother because thats what good companies look for.

But of course un4given1 got to build high-end servers without a cert. And work at big computer corporations. So hey anything is possible!
XtremeMaC
i'm currently on MCSD.NET / MCP / MCAD certificate, well going to school for it, i've 300hours to the completion biggrin.gif & just have to pass the exams tongue.gif

erm there is a little point in these certifications u guys are missing out, when an empoyer comes and asks u what u can do, u can show them your certificate, so its the same BS as high school/univercity diploma
FAT64
The best preparation for these certificates is probably a mixture of both experience and book-reading. You can pass these tests by just reading books because you take an online exam and not a practical test. If you had to demonstrate your skills, then the pure book-readers would probably fail, but it's just questions in an online test.
matrix0978
Yeah i was just thining about geting a Cisco Cert. after i take a few classes.

Im going to take a Hardware/OS class. And im also going to take a Networking Fundementals and then build up from there to take the test.

I can already build a computer easy. And i know alot about networking but this is just to fill in the blanks. I know im doing this at a young age (14) but i think it would be worth it.
rjz
I have an mcp in windows 2000 pro.
Andromeda43
Want a certificate? For $5 I'll print you one and mail it to you.....anywhere in the world.
Which one do you want?

That's what they are worth. (about $5)

You can have all the certificates that your wall can hold, and if you don't have the good common sence to fix a computer, all that paper ain't worth spit.

I don't hold any certificates but my High School Diploma, (except a few from Epson Corp.) and I have taught computers for my community education dept and courses in "System Fault Analysis" for ITT Corp.

It takes years of experience and lots of good common sence to fix computers and be good at it.....not a wall full of certificates.

Cheers,
Andromeda43
Stoic Joker
MCSA 2000 & 2003
MCP 2000 & XP
MCTS Vista
and a CompTIA A+ Cert
Camarade_Tux
Hum, not a single and planning not to have any. tongue.gif
gosh
I just have A+ and MCP. Certs dont matter. Certs are written by microsoft PR to sell you microsoft products, not really to learn anything.

-gosh
cluberti
I don't know - I'm not sure I agree with all of the anti-cert people. I think the MC** certs got a bad name back in NT4 and 2000 due to the ease of which someone could get a cert - however, the 2003 certs were much harder to achieve without real-world experience, and the Vista/2008 certs are *really* quite a bit harder without having good knowledge of the product (crams will be a LOT harder for these than they have been).

A cert from someone without experience is generally worthless, but getting one with experience is similar to saying "not only can I do it, the vendor has certified me to this level of proficiency". Not all people see it this way, but when I hire, I choose experience first, and then use certs as a tiebreaker when one needs to be had (at least for the 2003 variants and up). I'm glad that gone are the days when everyone with an MC** cert could easily have been a "paper MCSE". To each his or her own, of course, but certs with experience are valuable in my opinion.
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