Can i ask if anyone used WINME and if so why? i love 98 just for the fact it was quiet fast and i used it for quiet a while with my dual processors for games (had trouble with red alert 2 ) but winme was the worst thing M$ had ever done if they want to test some things for XP they should of released an internal alpha or something lol in the owrds of mr T i pitty the fool who runs WINME.
Regards
cyph

yay 4 your rant this thread doesnt serve a purpose

I use WinME. And its better than 98se.
And there's many threads already where 98 fans have shot ME a thousand times.... So posting this in one of those night have been better.

lol, sorry a had a look but didnt really find any simular posts.
lol @ MCT

just really wanted to know if and why any noe uses it.
i guess it may be a little pointless, jsut wanted to see if there wher any winme users out there .
@ prathapml
cool , have you not found any random errors etc? i could not stand it , maybe the latest patches sorted out some of the things?
Regards
cyph

Nope - no random errors, nothing. Just works perfectly, in fact better than 98se.
Got it within a month of its release back in 2000, and no matter what the configuration it has always been fine. Maybe having bought the licensed version, and knowing what I'm doing has something to do with it - coz it worked fine no matter how much I stressed it.

Windows 9x/ME does not support dual processors. 9x kernels can only recognize and use one processor. If you thought it was faster it was just you imagination.

Please someone in the knowing comment this cuz I'm not sure at all it's true.

This is true. The 9x kernel can't do SMP.

its original driver teething problems put a LOT of people of it

i prefer it to 98se -the modify sub-folders as read-only feature is worth it alone -98 can't do this

It has a cleaner-looking UI, updated IE, removed real-mode DOS... has a lot of system files and others bug-fixed since win98se.... most importantly is still in support (unlike 98se which has gone into "extended" mode).
Its the pinnacle of the 9x series.

WinME ran like a dream for me. 98 drivers used to give it some problems, but when you upgraded to MinME drivers, it was the most reliable 9x OS. It was alot more than just a cosmetic change, as to 98. Alot of the changes were under the hood. XML support for one example. WinME set the stage for the Win XP release.

The only use that I have found for Windows ME is job security. Probably 8 out of the last 10 personaly owned computer that I have fixed have had Windows ME. All of the problems were O.S related. I recommend that everyone running Windows ME should upgrade to Windows 98.

I ran Me for awhile. It was definately way faster than any other Windows and way more reliable than 98SE. On my equipment that is!!

One thing to remember is, that SR is BROKEN in Me, and - over time - it may cause crashes and performance degrades. There's an update on WU that makes it work a little better. But a much better solution is to swith it off entirely as the very first thing after installing the OS.

The only reason I've reverted to 98SE is, that Me cannot exit to DOS, and I want to do that sometimes.

Very true!
There should be no need for you to do so. Its good that real-mode DOS support was removed because it drastically reduces device driver loading time, boot-time, improves performance, and reduces attack surface for viruses.



And as for SR - indeed!
It needs to be updated with WindowsUpdate to work. But then, no one EVER likes it. It eats your HD space and then when you're desperate for it, it doesn't quite restore your system to perfection. Disable the darn thing, lol.

Well - I know I shouldn't exit to DOS. I don't even have a valid excuse for it.

hi 98 user /xp user .ived used me countless times with 100%success no horror stories it is faster better performance i cant knock it .in my research ived found that usually it doe or doesnt like certain hardware but ive never had these problems. i have it installed on my moms old P2-400 dell no problems after a year.

Just for the record, Windows ME is patchable, to restore real mode, there are at least 3 or 4 ways to do it:
http://www.mvps.org/dts/WinME_DOS/Win-ME.htm
http://www.coease.com/dosfix.htm
http://www.geocities.com/mfd4life_2000/


jaclaz

correct jaclaz!
I've told that to all those who oppose WinME simply because real-mode DOS booting is removed. But no, they don't accept it.


But please note, that putting back real-mode into WinME will take-away many speed/performance benefits:
- quick boot
- lower memory usage
- immune from MBR/DOS viruses
All the above benefits disappear.

Yes, prathapml, but actually that does NOT apply to this method:
http://www.mvps.org/dts/WinME_DOS/Win-ME.htm
(which is really a kind of double boot)

jaclaz

Niiice!
Now no more need of DOS in VMware....

Dual-Boot WinMe & Win98 SE:

http://www.thpc.info/dual/dualmese.html

Regards, Roman

I used to use win me. But when MS didn't issue any service packs or updates I went to 2k and xp. Why did MS do this? Me looked good.

I just remembered why I like to exit to DOS - I use a special tool to switch between OS'es (and hiding/unhiding partitions), and it doesn't run from within 9x. The 16 bit version requires "pure" DOS, and the 32-bit version requires NT.

Thanx jaclaz and modicr for the links - VERY interesting stuff

rjz, I don't understand why Microsoft abandoned Me the way they did either.

Out of curiosity, which tool is it?

jaclaz

I used ME for four, nearly five years. I never had any problems with it really. Tweaked it and disabled System Restore and PCHealth remover (look for System Restore Remover Pro) and it worked perfectly.

So, as evident, ME is not quite such a bad OS. In fact, disabling of some extra features (yeah, only 2) is all it takes to get it work good.

But...... where were all of you whenever winme got bashed around (on the forum) by win98 fans?
lol

Since the end of December I've been trying to sort problems with a hard drive on a Windows XP Pro pc.

the end of 98 is for me,xp all the way(sp2)

I have all Windows O S`s and prefer Me to them all.Of course my machine is low end.

I agree.
Cyrix M-II 233 MHz, 32 MB RAM, and 2.5 GB hard-disk says it loves WinME.

If it was faster machines, I'd use XP with SP2.

My ME machine was an 800MHz AMD Athlon, 60GB HD, 256MB RAM, 128MB GeForce4 Ti4600 that still rocks quite well.

It's just PQBOOT(32).EXE

NT4 Rocks. I used that for years and skipped the whole ME fiasco. Pinacle of the 98 series? Hahaha Not for a business... Job security I agree with... 98SE is good but I found it to be virus prone for my needs with the tools available at the time... I've sucessfully run DOS apps in ME but they didn't need special drivers I never hated it for that... If I could go back and do it all over again I think i'd buy a Mac with a PC card & dualboot OS/2 Warp & System 8. hahaha

I think ME has only minimal Changes (Movie Maker, System Restore and disabled DOS as Major Changes) but for most users these are unneded things, System Restore restores Viruses and need to be disabled, and note that WinME uses 550 MB if you delete C:\Windows\Options\Install then you still need ~220 MB, Win98 uses 150 MB by default. My P-III 533 MHz with 192 MB RAM and 30 GB HD starts up in <10sec 98se, I'm unsure about upgrading to XP and expense money for it.

On the other side: one of the pros of Me is to split the Registry to System, User and Classes and i'm sure that makes the start faster, not the disabled Dos. Of course only if you don't have real-mode drivers in 98 which you don't have in ME.

For myself I had severe trouble with ME, sometimes the desktop doesn't start after start-up, Blue Screens etc.

The best OS was 95 unfortunately you cannot use new Software on it. it was sleek and very fast.

Ask your self Why microsoft stop selling?

Did he just say the best was Win95? I think i'll go gouge out my eyes.

HAHA

Win95 was sleek, fast and flexible, what do you want more? it's free of unneded Software like IE or WMP.

As always, truth is halfways, if anyone has ever tried 98lite, he knows what I mean.

jaclaz

win 95 i use 2 95 cds to hold washing machine fron scaping floor in basement works great thx ms$