Hi, Maximus, thanks support NTFS But is wrong, that isn't integrated in installation NUSB all needed DLL and EXE / NTFS (Ntoskrnl.exe, ntfs.sys, ntfschk.exe, Ntdll.dll, .....)

Hey Maximus can you pretty please start updating your first post with the latest info?

It would be very nice and helpfull.

Also if you want a real mirror I am happy to provide one.

Available Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.0 / Translation Czech:

Download: http://windows98.ic.cz/usb/nusb30cs.exe or www.winpack.org (CZ)

Is it safe to attempt to install the new 3.0 (supposed to give Hi-Speed) over previous v2.3 or v2.4?

For those of you who don't like to download from Rapidshare, the latest versions are also here:

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

I'm sorry but I don't have the time to read through 13 thread pages. I have a Kingston U3 flash memory device and a Sandisk Sansa m230 mp3 player. None of them support Windows 98 and I need to get either of them to work on that; preferably the Kingston memory. I found a link to this thread on another forum; they said I could find a basic driver on the 1st post of this thread. I tried that, but the link doesn't work. It says "file not found". Quickly looking through the pages of this thread, I found several other links posted and I have no time to read what they're all about, so if someone please could help me or provide me a link to a basic driver for use of my devices for simple storage, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
PS: I have Windows 98 not 98SE. Will that work ??

use the link found on MDGx's site: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#9SU, but that's an old version, so use the link in the post above yours.

the_guy

Try the link I posted in the post before yours....

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

The drivers should work, so long as you have Windows 98SE

are some of the new files changing the language, if they are not localized versions?

http://rapidshare.com/files/18379200/nusb30da.exe.htmll updated, forgot to replace english hotplug.dll
Here's my try of a danish versions of 3.0. It should be working perfectly unless any of the new files in localized versions are required.

French Version 3.0 available here:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/47a052/

NUSB 3.0 English here:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#NUS

* Unofficial Windows 98 SE Native USB Drivers (NUSB) 3.0:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=43605
NUSB [747 KB, English, free]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/NUSB.EXE
NUSB in languages other than English:
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

You've got to be kidding me ! Nusb 3.0 in french since two days ago?
I just spent hours translating it... s*** !
Well, guess now there are two localizations around...

You might still wanna try mine if you need to keep user.exe and so on as french versions : download at rapidshare.com

Anyway. Thanks Matze for your (fast) translation.

The German version is also available:
http://www.nandlstadt.com/downloads.htm

thank your for fast creation of the german version.
....and of course maximum-decim & and all other distributing guys!

maximus-decim:

I have tested NUSB 3.0 English with a SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 GB stick:
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1919)...Black__New.aspx

It did not work properly [yellow exclamation sign in Device Manager] until I replaced USBSTOR.SYS 5.00.2195.6655 with USBSTOR.SYS 4.90.3000.1 from Windows ME setup CD-ROM [found in BASE2.CAB].

HTH

Oldies goodies? Or specific affair? First version: normal NUSB 3.0 and version NUSB 3.0 for SanDisk1GB?

@jaclaz

Thanks for all the information. The USB ID Database under http://listing.driveragent.com/usb/ is probably out of date. There is a very recent version in a German pdf, which is available for download at

http://www.kilonca.de/download/DeviceGuard_Handbuch_de.pdf

View pages 37-43. "VID_1516" can be found on page 42 - and, yes, you were right, it actually is "Skymedi Corporation"!

So the corresponding entries in USBSTOR.INF should be:

[Manufacturer]
%Skymedi.Mfg%=Skymedi

[Skymedi]
%USB\VID_1516&PID_8628.DeviceDesc%=USBSTOR_BULK,USB\VID_1516&PID_8628

[Strings]
Skymedi.Mfg="Skymedi"
USB\VID_1516&PID_8628.DeviceDesc="Skymedi USB Mass Storage Drive"

I suppose only the controller is made by Skymedi. Only a few hours ago I read that their controllers do not support as many third party memory chips (Samsung, etc.) as many others. And I found a posting by somebody, whose "VID_1516" USB stick does not work under Linux. My impression is that Skymedi is probably rather a low-cost manufacturer. Or they are still exercising, as they have been founded only four years ago...

Pirates

Edit: I corrected one of the entries above and used Skymedi's denomination ("Skymedi USB Mass Storage Drive").

What are you talking about? Could you be more specific, please?

I borrowed a friend's USB stick [SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 GB], and tried to install it using NUSB 3.0 English released by Maximus-Decim on February 21 2007 [newest available version] on my tweaked Win98 SE OS [with 98SE2ME already installed].
Never installed SanDisk drivers and never had any USB or USB 2.0 sticks installed previously.
To make it work, I had to replace Win2004 USBSTOR.SYS 5.00.2195.6655 installed by NUSB 3.0 with older WinME USBSTOR.SYS 4.90.3000.1 from WinME setup CD-ROM CAB.
That's it.

HTH

@Pirates
Thank a lot for the link to the .pdf.

Strangely enough, it refers to this page:
http://www.usb.org/developers/tools
as source of the info, the "Company List" file "usb.if" , apart having "peculiar" separators appears to be made in decimal values rather than in hex.

Thus you won't find "1516" in it, unless you import it in an a spreadsheet and convert dec to hex, and besides the list is ordered the "wrong" way (using dec numbers as they were text).

I guess the info contained in the usb.if is "Public" so that if I attach here a .zip file containing the data in a spreadsheet, with hex conversion and ordered BOTH as Vid and alphabetically, easily searchable, it would be ok.

On the page there is the recommendation to always download latest usb.if because " this list changes almost daily" but I guess that with this file one can consider himself "reasonably" updated.

I'll think about making a small batch conversion tool to .csv....

EDIT:
Ok, done, it can be found here:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1659

(unfortunately for all diehard Win9x users it requires Win2k/XP)

About the entries in .inf file, do download the 98 driver from Valgear:
http://www.valgear.com/WIN98/PD1-SK6201.rar
and get them from there.

jaclaz

Merci beaucoup Matze ,Glock_94 pour cette traduction si rapide !!!!

Une petite question : pourquoi trouve -t-on explorer.exe dans ce pack ? est-il nécéssaire ?est-il modifié ?

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-- Thanks Matze , Glock_94 for your very fast translation --

Just a little question , why is there an explorer.exe in this pack ? ,is it necessary ?

Thank you, but I have Windows 98 not 98SE. Will it work or not ? Also, is it possible that this driver will do some damage to the device ? Could it affect it in any way or is it safe to try ?? Thanks.

Great Work!!!!

Any chance of getting a version of your driver for SPANISH version of win98SE ???

If you need the instalation files of Spanish win98SE I can provide them

Jorge Bouza

Montevideo

Uruguay

@jaclaz

Well done and thanks for the spreadsheet... I guess your batch file will probably be even more useful in the future. I also noticed that link, and usb.if reminded me of a .csv file, too. But I had no clue, why "1516" was untraceable in it, so I regarded it as useless due to its mysterious format .

Today I had a conversation with CnMemory's support. I thought it would perhaps be useful for Maximus' NUSB, if I could figure out the PIDs of the other three Skymedi/CnMemory USB sticks (512MB, 2GB, 4GB), so the whole "Core" product line could be supported by NUSB, not only the 1GB version.

The employee I had on the phone claimed that he had successfully tested all four "Core" sticks (512MB, 1GB, 2GB and 4GB) in conjunction with Windows 98 SE and NUSB24/NUSB30... As I confirmed, that it had not worked for me, he said it would sometimes also depend on ones USB controller, respectively its driver. I cannot deny that, since I am still using an old VIA USB 1.1 Controller (+VIA Hyperion 4.47 +USB 1.1 Filter Patch 1.10 and otherwise it is working fine). But he also told that CnMemory's "Core" sticks are inconsistently equipped with chips from three different manufacturers . What a mess . That means the sticks he had tested might possibly be essentially different from mine, although all belong to the same product line. So no conclusion is possible at all.

I don't want to test the latest VIA Hyperion Drivers, since VIA themselves do not recommend them for Windows 98 machines and older chipsets

( http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageI...&CatID=1110 ).

Also, I actually don't need a USB 2.0 controller at the moment (except for testing). So if here is somebody, who has a stick with a VID_1516 and a PID_8628 (can be found within Win 98 SE's registry, after it was once successfully attached) and had it working with Windows 98 SE and NUSB24 (or prior) without any additional entries in usbstor.inf: SHOUT.

These sticks are most likely concerned:

1) CnMemory "Core" line,
2) ValGear "GXT" line.

Pirates

Italian NUSB 3.0:

http://rapidshare.com/files/19111675/nusb30i.exe.html

Batch is already done, here:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...ic=1659&hl=

(as said, 2K/XP/2003 only, sorry)

jaclaz

Apologies for posting in main forum...Basic question: I have NUSB 2 installed and am not quite sure as to what to uninstall before installing NUSB 3.0. Also, what are the advantages over NUSB 2.0. TIA

Done. But please note there appears to be a problem with the usbstor.sys file. I needed to replace it with an older version (4.90.3000.1) before USB sticks would work. The one supplied with NUSB 3.0 (5.00.2195.6655) did *not* work. (Have 98SE2ME and 98SESP2 installed)

Can someone please answer this ?

Same here:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?s=&showtopi...st&p=630319

@toxic_97

MOST probably it won't work.

But rest assured, no software can damage a device, though it may "damage" your windows install.

If the question is "is it possible to make USB sticks working in win98 FE ?", the answer is probably yes, but I would guess that since you "don't have the time to read through 13 thread pages", you will have also not enough time to actually try learning and experimenting to (possibly) do it.

There is a common replacement for "time" that is called "money", you can find someone and pay him for the time needed to develop such a solution, or I guess it's easier to search on e-bay or wherever for someone selling a Win98SE CD and license.

jaclaz

ok thank you jaclaz, I will try it then.

the driver works quite good, except for the fact that i receive a bsod after removing my (usb-2.0-) memory stick. however to see it working (i.e. reading and writing) is a huge improvement, since before my system would crash upon inserting
is this a known bug or simply incompatible with my hardware (via kt800, socket 754)?

Did you stop the device before removing? I'm asking because XP doesn't complain when removing devices directly but in 98/ME/2k you need to stop them first using the system tray icon, and if you do not do that, in Windows 98, you'll get a BSOD.

Italian NUSB 3.0 with Win ME USBSTOR.SYS:
http://uploaded.to/?id=4gjij6

Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.1
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives, digital photo
and videocameras and other similar devices.
*Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
1.Remove ALL drivers USB flash drives.
2.Remove ALL drivers USB 2.0 controllers.
3.Remove ALL unknown devices.
4.Install NUSB 3.1 and reboot.
5.After detection new USB 2.0 controllers (if it will occur) too it is necessary to be reboot.
Remember! You install it at own risk!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
English: http://rapidshare.com/files/19858514/nusb31e.exe.html
Russian: http://rapidshare.com/files/19858375/nusb31r.exe.html

What's new?
*Downgrade USBSTOR.SYS (4.90.3000.1), removed wdmstub.sys
*CnMemore replaced Skymedi

Please stop with this rapidshare, there are at least one hundred free upload service better!!!!

Phew! Second the opinion on [not] rapidshare. But, hey, thanks to maximus-decim for the great job he's doing!

BTW what did wdmstub.sys do or otherwise to warrant its removal?

NUSB 3.1 in french : win9x4ever.online.fr

NUSB 3.1 Danish

http://rapidshare.com/files/19929413/nusb31da.exe.html

For those of you who don't like RapidShare, the latest files are available from here:
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

yep, crashes no matter i stop the device or not :-/
could 3.1 fix this?

Italian NUSB 3.1

http://www.mediafire.com/?bzym0rr0or2

Czech version NUSB 3.1 CS

http://winpack.org/download.php?soubor=23
or direct link:http://download.winpack.org/usb/nusb31cs.exe

The Microsoft Xbox cam named Live Vision (A really nice cam for Xbox360 and compters) dont work, I can download the INF file from WU but it crashes.

-- Thank you for the new NUSB

maximus-decim, would you mind updating the first post when you release a new version, please?

Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.1
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives, digital photo
and videocameras and other similar devices.
*Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
1.Remove ALL drivers USB flash drives.
2.Remove ALL drivers USB 2.0 controllers.
3.Remove ALL unknown devices.
4.Install NUSB 3.1 and reboot.
5.After detection new USB 2.0 controllers (if it will occur) too it is necessary to be reboot.
Remember! You install it at own risk!


Instructions say to uninstall current usb drivers. I have a Jumpdrive Trio that is working just fine under win98 (takes SMS, SD, XD), and one of those frustrating valgear GXT usb keys (GXT-64MB-PD to be exact) that won't work in win98. Does this mean I have to rip out my good trio drivers, or can I just supplement them with the NUSB install?

Thanks

German version NUSB 3.1:

http://www.nandlstadt.com/downloads.htm

I just installed NUSB 3.0e last week. It works great. It is even faster than the original driver for my Kingston DTII. It detects faster and I can unplug the thumb drive without worrying that the computer will hang when shut down. Great job Maximus Decim. Thanks.

Now, what should I expect from NUSB 3.1e?

Hey there MD, been using NUSB for a while now and its great! Thanks ...

However, it would be excellent to have the installer package behave like other MS hotfixes, ie if you use the /Q:A /R:N switch, the installer shouldn't prompt to reboot. When i first tried 3.0 out it seemed to work as expected. But when i use it inside Auto-Patcher within the batch script, the reboot prompt appears (i'm assuming 3.1 does the same). I've made my own installer to get around this, but just letting you know that this is happening and that at the moment i'm packaging my own version of NUSB31 for inclusion in AP.

Hope that's OK ... sop.

EDIT: actually i'm still having problems, my installer is doing the same thing --- i can't seem to be able to create an unattended installer -- is this by design? I understand that the reboot has to occur at some point, and i am coding the update to install by itself and immediately reboot but it seems its not enough

... is there something in the INF file i can change to stop the reboot prompt?

To stop reboot and/or reboot prompt from INF:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
AdvancedINF=2.5
[DefaultInstall]
SmartReboot=N
Reboot=0
[DefaultUninstall]
SmartReboot=N
Reboot=0

To stop reboot and/or reboot prompt from SED:

[Options]
RebootMode=N



To force automatic reboot [without prompt most of the time] from INF:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
AdvancedINF=2.5
[DefaultInstall]
UpdateInis=WX
SmartReboot=AS
Reboot=1
[DefaultUninstall]
UpdateInis=WX
SmartReboot=AS
Reboot=1
[WX]
WININIT.INI,Rename,,"NUL=%10%\WININIT.LOG"
WININIT.INI,Rename,,"DIRNUL=%31%\_RESTORE\TEMP"

To force automatic reboot [without prompt most of the time] from SED:

[Options]
RebootMode=IS


HTH