heh-heh. I'm finished voicing out my frustration in trying to get the 98 standard edition service pack, to no avail. it was sure agonizing attempting to download it from Rapidshare with a dialup connection and failing each time.

so let's ask Petr (let's all ask him nicely, people) to post a copy of fesp201 at a different site like winpack.org
or the Megaupload or Yousendit sites.

new link to get FESP v2.01 alpha (NO longer available):

[the Winpack.org url was working at the time I posted it and is no longer working anymore...sorry].

I've been told by Petr that 98fe SP will now be managed by Gape. so it will be Gape that will be releasing beta & RC releases of FESP.

This url is no longer available.

Petr

surprisingly, when I installed FE SP v2.01 alpha under a clean install of Win98 w/ IE4.01 SP1, things were pretty stable.

additions I like to see in FESP 2.01 beta [another reminder that Gape will post a beta and RC for FESP]:

files from the oepatsp1.exe file-
inetcomm.dll v4.72.3155.0
msimnui.dll v4.72.3120.0
wab32.dll v4.72.3155.0
use the info from the oepatsp1.inf file to install the files.

Q244356 urlmon.dll v4.72.3710.2500
Q246094 shdocvw.dll v4.72.3711.2900
Q265258 asctrls.ocx v4.72.3718.1400
these IE4 updates should also work with IE 4.01 SP1 under Win98.

and the iuctl.dll and iuengine.dll files should be removed from FESP for the greater good [and better reliability] of the 98 service pack.

Just for review. FESP201-alpha1 contains the following IE updates:
Q226325 mshtml.dll 4.72.3616.1301 mshtml4.exe download
Q226325 mshtmlwb.dll 4.72.3616.1400
Q168617 urlmon.dll 4.72.3510.2000 IE4DIA.EXE download
and for OE 4.01SP1:
Q234681 msoert.dll 4.72.3518.0900 en-x86-Q234681.exe download

The latest official mshtml.dll for IE4.01SP1 seems to be:
Q250316 mshtml.dll 4.72.3525.600 dated 06-Jan-2000 q250316.exe download
surprisingly it is newer than the file with higher verssion number:
Q226325 mshtml.dll 4.72.3616.1301 dated 13-Apr-1999

The latest updates for IE4.01SP2 seem to be:

Q265258 asctrls.ocx 4.72.3718.1400 4q265258.exe download
Q244540 inseng.dll 4.72.3710.2600 q244540.exe download
Q269368 mshtml.dll 4.72.3720.400 q269368.exe download
Q226325 mshtmlwb.dll 4.72.3616.1400 mshtml4.exe download
Q246094 shdocvw.dll 4.72.3711.2900 q246094.exe download
Q244356 urlmon.dll 4.72.3710.2500 q244356.exe download
Q254902 wininet.dll 4.72.3718.900 q254902.exe download

Petr

can you upload a copy of FE SP v2.01 alpha 2 at the RapidUpload.com site? it's better than the Rapidshare site.

i konw the latest alpha of the ME service pack is posted at the RapidUpload.com site.

The erpdude says a resounding YES to Registration Wizard Update.
link to directly download the Windows 98 Registration Wizard Update from the Windows Update site:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...05E3D70F389.cab

The Registration Wizard Update fix is already included in Win98 SE and WinME as I looked in the following Registry Key and Registry Values in REGEDIT:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{b59c7da0-daea-11d2-83c7-0000f8051539}

@="Registration wizard update"
"IsInstalled"=dword:00000001
"Locale"="EN"
"Version"="4,10,2150"

The Euro Conversion tool should be left out. wasnt included in Gape's 98se pack and the_guy's ME pack and should also not be included in 98FE Gold SP2. Critical Update Notification v4.0 tool should also be excluded as it always loads at startup and checks for critical win98 updates frequently; very annoying for dial-up users but may be useful for broadband users.

The Registration Wizard Update [crwid.exe] removes a hardware ID registry entry that might have gotten transmitted to Microsoft when registering Windows 98 Gold.

Since it has been more than 6 months since last alpha release of unofficial Win98 Gold SP2, this project should be put on hold as nobody so far wants to update it [plus there were a lot of new updates that were made since last alpha that are not included]. right now the focus is more on the unofficial Win98 SE SP and unofficial WinME SP.

however, this thread will still be open for comments, questions & suggestions.

Hello people,

I recently acquired a 98 FE machine and after reading the UNOFFICIAL 98 FE Service pack 2, I'm not clear on it's status.

Is it still in alpha or needing more testing or ready for prime time ?

I may be able to assist in finding missing modules (if needed).

Thanks.

I am surprised Petr did not answer you yet. I guess he'd be interested by any file you might have that he hasn't got.

I am not sure he still does maintain this pack to be honest.

No one seems much interested by this pack apparently. I guess there aren't many 98FE users around.

erpdude is the one who otherwise knows the most about the wheabouts of this pack so I guess he'll tell you a bit more than I do some time soon if Petr does not do so.

The unofficial Win98 FE service pack 2 is still stuck in alpha 2 stage [since early July 2005] and hardly anyone is ever testing it or even downloading it since it is posted at that #@$*%#)% Rapidshare.de site which I REALLY loathe (aka. HATE). Petr made a poor choice of posting it there since that site does not offer resuming downloads unless you pay them for a "premium" account. a premium account at Rapidshare allows resuming interrupted downloads. UTTERLY RIDICULOUS!






DONT ask Petr about the Win98 FE service pack 2.x anymore. Like I said in an earlier post a few months ago, he is no longer managing the SP as he told me back then. Gape is concentrating more on the Win98 SE service pack instead of Win98 FE SP. Right now the Win98 FE service pack is placed on hold but not necessarily discontinued. And I am personally testing out the WinME Service pack which there will be a new beta of it coming out in a few days.

If there was going to be a new alpha release of the 98fe SP, it should be posted at the MyTempdir.com site instead of the Rapidshare.de site. the latest beta of WinME SP I'm testing is posted at MyTempdir.com which does allow resuming interrupted downloads with no restrictions.

HuckFinn,

you are welcome to add and remove features onto the unofficial 98fe service pack 2.x as long as you are skilled enough to create IExpress install packages. the unofficial 98se & me service packs were created from Microsoft's IExpress tool.

please visit the following sites on what IExpress does and how to make IExpress packages and INF/SED/DDF files:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...n/iexpress.mspx
http://www.winpack.org/petr/INF_web/
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=49202
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn.../en/infdoc.mspx

Unfortunately Rapidshare.de doesn't serve it any more:
"rapidshare.de:

File /files/2723154/fesp201en-a2.exe has been deleted.
Reason: No download for a longer period. Inactivity-timeout exceeded."

Does any any have another download link? I want to use my old Win98 FE on my HTPC next to EpiOS in case a program needs Windows.

nope. there are no other working download links for unofficial 98FE service pack 2.x. thanks for reporting about Rapidshare deleting the alpha 2 of the 98fe SP2 pack, Milmoor.

I now officially put the 98fe service pack 2 project on hold as it is no longer available anywhere.

A bit of a waste to let all that work disappear. But it needs an active maintainer to stay alive.
Is there anyone who had downloaded it and is willing to forward it to the following adress? It would save me quite some time in updating: joost...op-stelten.nl (there should be an @ at the ...). Thanks in advance.

does your email account support very large file attachments? the 98 sp 2.01 alpha is almost 20 megabytes. do you use a broadband internet connection? I am not sending this file as an attachment on a dialup connection. takes way too long and the upload has great chance to time out and you may not receive the file cleanly.

I am waiting for a response from HuckFinn to see if he will continue the project.

also Milmoor, how big is your actual email account? there are some email accounts out there that are past the 100Mb+ limit like Hotmail (Hotmail email accounts for free are 250Mb in size, paid Hotmail accounts are 1 Gb in size) and Yahoo Mail (Yahoo Mail accounts are up to 1 Gb in size). Nah, it's better if the pack were NOT sent to your email address because your account may limit the size of the attachments you can receive. if they are past the limit, they might get rejected. plus there are some email accounts out there (like Hotmail or even GMail) that reject EXE files. Yahoo Mail I believe can only accept and transmit attachments no greater than 10 Mb [Yahoo Mail Plus accounts can handle up to 20 Mb in attachments].

I may have to ask Petr if he can upload a copy of alpha 2 of the 98fe service pack again on his web site. it's better that way so you can download it from there since his server is more reliable than the Rapidshare site. the 98 sp is just way too big to send by email and it may take too long to upload & download when using a slow dialup connection.

HuckFinn said he showed interest in adding some stuff into the 98 service pack. I hope he actually means it. the 98 sp project is not completely abandoned yet. let's see if Huckfinn can keep his promise.

Here is the latest file I have: http://old.winpack.org/nsp_petr/fesp201en-alpha1.exe

Petr

Hopefully he will. With the groundwork done by Petr, it should be possible to keep it going.



Broadband, speed isn't an issue. My account accepts attachments of at least 5MB, I'm not sure of the actual limit. It's hosted by a friend of mine, and probably only limited by the size of the harddisk. So when send in 4Mb parts, my account can handle it. But Petr's download works just fine, so thanks for the offers and for thinking ahead. For some people it would have created problems.


Great, thanks... I'm going to install it at the end of this week.

Nice quoting mechanism, but I'll go easy on the quotes next time. My post is rather full, sorry... Wow, it even merges posts. Nice forum software.

your very welcome, Milmoor. glad there are at least a few people who really want to test out the 98fe service pack on their Win98fe machines.

Petr might also want to upload the 98fe service pack alpha at MyTempdir.com site.

Why?

Petr

Sorry to disappoint you, but my Windows98 FE installation is a failure. After three days of trying every trick I know, I've given up. I installed Windows XP instead. It absolutely hated my VIA SP13000 board, and kept on freezing in boottime. Yes, I did install the via 4-in-1 drivers, and tried a lot more. Hopefully someone else will be to test the updates, but I'm quiting before I started.

because Mytempdir.com is better than Rapidshare and I can download files there without restrictions. the ME service pack is posted at Mytempdir.com.

never mind. if getting 98 SP alpha is reliable at your Winpack.org site then we should leave it as is.



I guess the VIA SP13000 mobo does not like Win98 FE and maybe it was not designed for 9xME and meant only for win2k/xp/2k3/vista versions of windows.

The disk in www.winpack.org died and since it is not my computer (even not in our country) I cannot help to repair it so here is new temporary location for fesp201en.exe (20,118,016 B): http://old.winpack.org/nsp_petr/fesp201en-alpha1.exe (still the original file from July 6th, 2005).

Petr

I think I will ask the_guy to see if he might be able to continue the 98 standard service pack 2.x project since we're close to making an official release of the ME service pack. There has been no response from HuckFinn for almost two months and he has not kept his promise.

the answer to this is NO. the_guy wont be managing the 98fe SP2. looks like the responsibility is on Gape.

Where I can download fesp201en.exe or if exist newer pack?
If somebody know please to post,thanx!

You can download it here: http://old.winpack.org/nsp_petr/fesp201en-alpha1.exe

Petr

this version is an alpha version which was made in July 2005 but now posted at a different site.

OK,Thanx Petr.
I're download it.
Is there any full ver. of this pack or older pack?
Which is difterent between alpha and full pack?

What do you mean by "full pack"?

Petr

I think thats not alpha or beta than final release of you pack...
Does it exist?

The one you have now is the only one that does exist AFAIK.

No.

Petr

Do you mean the difference between alpha and "final" releases of the 98fe pack, nicke85? no final nor full pack release exists because the pack is an "unfinished" product and is still in alpha stage. the 98fe sp2 hasnt reached beta either.

alright, I've decided to take matters into my own hands. I have made a beta of the 98fe SP; fixed several installation and removal problems with the pack. Few files have been removed as they have caused install problems. Several files (such as GDI.EXE & GDI32.DLL) have been updated. No new files were added. Just need to test it on a Win98fe PC for a few days.

so beta 1 of the 98fe SP2 should be available at the end of June or the start of July.

the long wait is over. Beta 1 of the service pack 2.01 for windows 98 first edition is now posted here:

<link to it now removed>

I will only make betas of this service pack. RC releases will not be made by me and will be done by someone else.

next beta of the 98fe SP2 is scheduled to come out in middle of July. enjoy!

Thanks for the 98FE SP2 update.

BTW:
Takes forever to d/l from MyTempDir [~ 56k speed or even slower].
I guess they only allow paying members to d/l at full speed.

I'll upload it to my site later today.
I'll let you know the location when it's done.

Suggestion:
Now that you are the new maintainer of the 98FE SP2, maybe you can create a new web page for it at your site.
And you can link to the file on my site if u wish.
Please let me know if/when you do this, so I can add a link to your SP2 page at my site.
Thanks.

P.S.:
The download interrupted, I'll try later.
Will let u know if I can d/l it successfully.

?

Thanks, I just finished downloading 98FE SP2, after 4 tries and 3 hours.
Mytempdir.com sucks, their server is extremely unreliable, and slower than a 56k modem!

But everything is cool, I've uploaded it at my site...

* Unofficial Windows 98 Service Pack 2 (SP2) v2.01 Beta 1:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=44732
98 SP2 [18.9 MB, English, free]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/FESP201B.EXE

HTH

sorry about the slow download speed at Mytempdir. Good thing I still use third party download accelerator tools to download the file from Mytempdir. took less than an hour (between 45 to 50 minutes) to actually get the file from Mytempdir because the download speeds go up and down while downloading it, even with a DSL connection.

no, I wont be making a separate page for the 98fe SP2 on my site and I am only be maintaining BETAS of this pack. RCs and finals of the 98fe SP2 will NOT be made by me.

also MDGx change the name from FESP201B.EXE to FESP201B1.EXE so that there's less confusion. plus the FESP201-B2.EXE package that I am currently working on will be up in a few weeks.

almost forgot to mention the changes included in beta 1 of 98fe SP: fixed several install and removal problems with the pack; updates included > Q269388, KB917344 (Jscript.dll), U891711, U912919 and OLE Automation v2.40.4528 fix. also included is an updated version of Metapad.

the next beta will have the other missing updates like KB908519, U249824, Krnl386.exe fix and U918547. It will also have MS active accessibility 2.0 and updated Dcom 98 config tools. it should be ready by the start of the third week of july.

I'll wait for you to send me the link to the new one you're working on.

sure MDGx. can you also ask the_guy if he can post his ME service pack at your site? he has just released beta 4 of the ME SP.

beta 1 of the unofficial win98fe sp has been removed from Mytempdir site. beta 2 should be up by either this friday or next monday.

Beta 2 of the Win98fe SP2.01 is now posted-

<link to it now removed>

fixes/additions:
-ms active accessibility 2.0
-updated dcom config tools for win98
-KB908519, KB918547, Q260710 hotfixes added
-unofficial fixes [krnl386.exe, voltrack.vxd]
-Q272620 sysdm.cpl fix removed; mis-identifies 98 as 98se

installing this beta of the 98fe Sp2.01 now changes the "short date" setting from the [intl] section of the win.ini file from m/d/yy to m/d/yyyy to ensure most programs (like File Manager which uses the date settings from win.ini) display four digits for the year.

next beta that will be out in early August will be created from the IExpress tool from IE6 SP1 and will display a different message when attempting to run the 98fe SP2.01 pack under other versions of Windows.

Uploaded here:

* Unofficial Windows 98 Service Pack 2 (SP2) v2.01 Beta 2:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=44732
98 SP2 [19.4 MB, English, free]:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/FESP201B2.EXE

thanks MDGx. next beta will be v2.04 instead of v2.01.

if there was going to be a final release of the 98fe sp2, I may release it at the end of the year. I am getting close to a point where I wont be making any more changes to the SP and will be away from the computer world for a few months (so I can get back to more important things in life). I'll probably stop it around beta 4 or beta 5.

BTW - Uninstallation of the 98se service pack 2.x IS supported only by Add/Remove programs and not by using third party uninstall tools.

unofficial Win98 FE SP 2.04 beta 3 will be posted early next week. It will feature the True Type Font Properties Extension 2.1, Web-Based Enterprise Management (WBEM 1.5), AOL ART Image Support Update and some other updates.

beta 3 of 98FE SP is now posted:
<link to it now removed>

changes to beta 3:

-changed version number from 2.01 to 2.04
-added True Type Font Properties Extension 2.1 [ttfext.dll]
-added Web-Based Enterprise Management 1.5
-added AOL ART Image Support for Internet Explorer
-added Troubleshooter Content update for Windows 98 FE [tshoot98.exe]