MDGx
Jul 14 2005, 03:53 AM
Thanks for the info.
I'll look into the doslfnbk license.
PK(UN)ZIP sucks big time: it is LFN compatible only in Win9x/ME but not in NTx, and like u said, it doesn't have a clue about LFN/SFN aliases.
I prefer 7-zip command line [7ZA.EXE]:
http://www.7-zip.org/because it is 100% free [GNU GPL license], and creates much smaller ZIPs than PKzip, and besides, 7-zip is LFN compatible with all 9x/NTx releases.
I haven't checked 7-zip for accuracy on keeping LFN/SFN aliases, though.
If u have the time and test 7-zip, please let me know.
About the wdmaud.* files from ME:
I haven't received any error reports, but u never know, it could depend on audio hardware. [?]
I am using both these files since 7-1-2005 with my CL Audigy2 Platinum PCI sound card, and haven't experienced any errors so far.
But as usual, these 2 files are tied into other *.SYS [WDM style] drivers 98SE2ME replaces with ME files into %windir%\system32\drivers , so they wouldn't work just by themselves.
I can only hope for the better.
PsycoUnc
Jul 14 2005, 05:11 AM
-yup, tested 7-zip (that's my preferred zipper, too, use it all the time), and yup, it fails too... but my main gripe w/7zip, is that I haven't been able to get it to work in real-mode dos... ???... always says it needs to run in windows... and I think I was using the rite command-line version... ?...
-about "experimental": I'm building a "primary" (safest) backup os, from scratch, backing up every major step of the way (up to backup #7 rite now; next one oughta finish it), so in the future I'll only have to restore a backup, instead of goin thru this full-fresh-reinstall crap each time, so I'm only putting in VERY safe stuff; therefore, I don't want any potentially experimental stuff in it, so I guess I'll stick w/the previous version of 98se2me... (or, if I miraculously find the motivation, I'll just pick apart your current version and yank the experimental stuff; it's only 2 files, is it?)
-ps: let me know if anybody has been able to get 7zip to work in real-mode dos, and if so, what was my dumb-*ss error?
>;]
(btw, 7-zip is sooo awesome, I can zip-up ALL 7 backups (together, 7z, 8mb, 16word) into 2 files (progs, wins) which together fit on a single cd! gotta luv that! 44,100 files! 3.3 gb orig! and it includes counter-strike 1.6, which BY ITSELF is 717mb orig!)
charly
Jul 14 2005, 01:30 PM
QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 14 2005, 01:06 AM)
Try this new edition, guys.
Most of the bugs should be fixed now.

Enjoy.[/color]
Great--it doesn't freeze while initializing the desktop anymore!
Everthing seems to run fine and installation was smooth.
Couldn't be happer!!! THANKS for all the work and speed in
fixing any problem. Don't know how you do it.
Eck
Jul 14 2005, 07:15 PM
MDGx,
Miscommunication here.
I didn't interupt the batch file. When Windows rebooted (automatically by 98SE2ME) it could not initialize the desktop completely, just leaving the hourglass sitting there and no icons displaying. I left it like that for about 20 minutes before hitting ctrl-alt-delete. When I hit that it rebooted right away (didn't bring up the Close Program box).
When it rebooted, the WDM files were changed according to System File Checker, but the System Properties change was not made. So I copied over the file myself and all (I think) was well.
I'll install the new one and see what happens.
Charly had the same problem. Nice to see it's not there for him with the latest update.
Eck
Jul 14 2005, 07:48 PM
Ahhh. That's better.
I even saw it working when the splash screen went away.
No Windows freeze on startup.
Great stuff!
Oh. do you know what the MAPI32.dll file does? Every time I run a software update, like the latest Nero update for example, it installs a really small version of the file. But when I run 98SE2ME it replaces that file with what I guess is the version on the Windows Me cd, which is bigger. I'm talking like the small version being about 7kb and the Windows Me one being something like 700KB. Nothing seems to break no matter which version is on there, but I was wondering what it does and why media type software (I think WMP9 installs the small version as well) seems to like to overwrite the original file with the smaller version.
MDGx
Jul 15 2005, 12:11 AM
QUOTE (PsycoUnc @ Jul 14 2005, 05:11 AM)
-yup, tested 7-zip (that's my preferred zipper, too, use it all the time), and yup, it fails too... but my main gripe w/7zip, is that I haven't been able to get it to work in real-mode dos... ???... always says it needs to run in windows... and I think I was using the rite command-line version... ?...
-ps: let me know if anybody has been able to get 7zip to work in real-mode dos, and if so, what was my dumb-*ss error?
7-Zip [7za.exe] is designed to work only in Win32 GUI mode, even if it is a ["console" as it is also called in NTx] command line tool. Does not have a real DOS mode module. It's pure 32-bit.
If u would like to have real DOS mode support for the 7Z format, u could email the author and ask if he plans developing such feature:
http://www.7-zip.org/support.htmlBummer, I guess I won't replace xclone with 7za.exe in 98SE2ME after all.

FYI about the 2 WDMAUD.* files from ME:
I've also installed them on a friend's PC who has a CL SB Live! 5.1 Gamer PCI audio card, and works great so far.
Hope this helps.
MDGx
Jul 15 2005, 12:16 AM
QUOTE (charly @ Jul 14 2005, 01:30 PM)
Great--it doesn't freeze while initializing the desktop anymore!
Everthing seems to run fine and installation was smooth.
Couldn't be happer!!! THANKS for all the work and speed in
fixing any problem. Don't know how you do it.
Very glad it works properly on your computer now.

How I do it:
with a lot of patience, experimenting + [never enough] time set aside for testing.

Enjoy.
MDGx
Jul 15 2005, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (Eck @ Jul 14 2005, 07:48 PM)
Ahhh. That's better.
I even saw it working when the splash screen went away.
No Windows freeze on startup.
Great stuff!
Oh. do you know what the MAPI32.dll file does? Every time I run a software update, like the latest Nero update for example, it installs a really small version of the file. But when I run 98SE2ME it replaces that file with what I guess is the version on the Windows Me cd, which is bigger. I'm talking like the small version being about 7kb and the Windows Me one being something like 700KB. Nothing seems to break no matter which version is on there, but I was wondering what it does and why media type software (I think WMP9 installs the small version as well) seems to like to overwrite the original file with the smaller version.
Sorry, I didn't know it froze your computer for over 20 minutes. Bummer. Never froze on my PC, so I couldn't reproduce that. ;(
But I'm glad it works properly now.
MAPI32.DLL is responsible for e-mail interface in all Microsoft apps [Outlook, Outlook Express, Exchange etc] as far as I know.
MAPI = Messaging Application Programming Interface
More info:
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/mapi.htmEven more info:
http://www.darkweb.com/~beng/exchange/mdevfaq.htmThe newest build that supports 9x/ME is the 1 from WinME setup CD as far as I'm aware.
My guess would be that the programs that replace the MS file with their own, probably install a fake API/stub, therefore the difference in size. I have no idea why they do that.
You may want to email them [Ahead Nero for example] and ask.
Hope this helps.
PsycoUnc
Jul 15 2005, 04:21 AM
-re: 7-zip for dos mode:
-no need, I've got that "Rescue" CD working (98se-OS-running-on-a-cd thingy), so anytime I totally lose all windows on HD, I can just pop in cd, win98se boots up AND RUNS COMPLETELY from the cd (and in RAM, of course), not using any HD space, and I instantly have win32 environment to use 7-zip to restore a backup to HD...
-works pretty good, tho VERY SLOOOOOW..... thinking about trying some tweaking, like loading most of it into RAM first, running the OS mostly from RAM instead of entirely from CD... -again, motivation issue...
-so, no REAL need for real-mode stuff, always have that OS-CD available... tho it takes FOREVER and a half to boot, so real-mode tools are preferable...
(oh yeah, I also keep an ancient 1gb HD with emergency safe win98se OS on it; more than once I've plugged that in, here and at friends' houses, actually quicker hooking that up as boot-drive than waiting for dam OS-CD to boot!
MDGx
Jul 15 2005, 04:47 AM
QUOTE (PsycoUnc @ Jul 15 2005, 04:21 AM)
I've got that "Rescue" CD working (98se-OS-running-on-a-cd thingy), so anytime I totally lose all windows on HD, I can just pop in cd, win98se boots up AND RUNS COMPLETELY from the cd (and in RAM, of course), not using any HD space, and I instantly have win32 environment to use 7-zip to restore a backup to HD...
-works pretty good, tho VERY SLOOOOOW..... thinking about trying some tweaking, like loading most of it into RAM first, running the OS mostly from RAM instead of entirely from CD... -again, motivation issue...
-so, no REAL need for real-mode stuff, always have that OS-CD available... tho it takes FOREVER and a half to boot, so real-mode tools are preferable...
(oh yeah, I also keep an ancient 1gb HD with emergency safe win98se OS on it; more than once I've plugged that in, here and at friends' houses, actually quicker hooking that up as boot-drive than waiting for dam OS-CD to boot!
R u loading SMARTDRV from config.sys or autoexec.bat on that 98SE boot CD?
Because that CD [besides spinning way slower than a HD] loads probably only a minimal Windows GUI, and in that case probably doesn't have 32-bit disk/file cache enabled, so it runs in slower "MS-DOS compatibility mode". The only fix for that is smartdrv.
Example [for single HD/partition = C]:
- autoexec [no need to load it with LH, cuz smartdrv loads itself in UMA if it detects an UMA manager already resident in memory]:
SMARTDRV 12288 C+ /N /Q
-config:
INSTALLHIGH=SMARTDRV.EXE 12288 C+ /N /Q
This gives Windows 12 MB of disk cache, but works only in "MS-DOS compatibilty mode".
FYI: to load smartdrv "high" in config.sys [a.k.a. in the Upper Memory Area (UMA)], u need an UMA manager like UMBPCI, QEMM386, RM386, 386MAX or MS EMM386.EXE in config.sys.
UMBPCI [the best + it's free] requires compatible mobo chipset to work properly:
http://www.mdgx.com/umb.htmcomplete list of chipsets that work with UMBPCI:
http://www.mdgx.com/umb.htm#REQchipsets with problems:
http://www.mdgx.com/umb.htm#CHIYou can find more details on how to do this [and more DOS tweaks to maximize performance] in MEMORY.TXT, part of W95-11D.EXE [1.15 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/95.htmHave fun.
Eck
Jul 15 2005, 11:38 AM
Oh, so that's what Mapi32.dll is. Perhaps I haven't noticed anything because I use Thunderbird and just have a normal pop email account. (Not that mapi's abnormal!)
By the way, that young feller on the main Windows 98 thread doing a Windows Me service pack should hire a ghost writer or something. I kind of get the feeling that what he's doing works but the way he's expressing it makes me afraid, very afraid. He shouldn't be making comments like your computer will think it's running XP or NTFS. It'll look like it if he installs a theme, but comments like that make it sound like vaporware, and inspire replys from experienced programmers like "How?".
I wouldn't want to discourage him though. A Me service pack would be cool!
Edit - OMG. I just read some more from mitchellvision. Um, could someone a bit older start working on this? He, he. The kid's got spunk though. "I HATE SPUNK!" (Thank you "MaryTylerMoore Show.")
randiroo76073
Jul 15 2005, 03:08 PM
ROFLMAO Eck, are you gonna tell us you were never "spunky"
PsycoUnc
Jul 15 2005, 05:58 PM
-mdgx: Rescue "OS-on-a-CD":
-not sure about smartdrv, but the way that rescue works is ya make your own win98se install, anything ya want, as long as the entire os fits w/in 650mb or so... then it copies it and modifies the registry to work from a cd and w/in RAM, & updates links, etc, then burns it to cd... so I *think* 32-bit access is running, as long as I had the driver originally installed, which of course I did...
I'll double-check, tho...
>;]
(btw, it's "Rescue v1.2", I think, nagware screens show up on cd-boot, annoying, but hey, it's free & it works! Instant win98se, any way ya like it... -except fast... lol)
Eck
Jul 16 2005, 06:17 PM
randeroo76073,
Yeah. And I wish I was as "spunky" as I used to be.
I was referring to Ed Asner as Lou Grant reacting to Mary sticking up for her rights in the 1st episode's job interview. I used to love that show.
Darn it, I fubarred my 98 installation last night by mess'n around with the joystick's too much. By the time I was through I couldn't get any to show up in the joystick control panel even with them all appearing to be fine in device manager. I got so annoyed that I F-DIS-K'ed the drive!
I just reconnected my A7V880 with XP that I had left fully functioning last time. A few hours of software updates and it's all set.
Between the Saitek drivers, trying to get that Boom PSX/N64 USB adapter working, and the Sidewinder 3.02 and 4.0 stuff it all got messed up. I just finished an email coorespondence with Saitek where they couldn't understand why their driver always caused me Windows 98SE conflicts (startup, shutdown, closing programs making Windows crash, the Saitek Control Panel's "About" tab freezing, etc). They couldn't help. The Saitek stuff worked but would interfere with Windows. No problem with it on XP. Even the N64 adapter is working.
I've got XP set up with a theme so it looks and sounds like I had 98 set up, but without the bugs. I'm sure I'll be rediscovering XP's bugs now.
FDISKing is kinda "spunky" isn't it? Like Kirk in Star Trek III, "I--have had---enough of---YOU!" I felt so empowered.
krick
Jul 21 2005, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (Eck @ Jul 15 2005, 11:38 AM)
Oh, so that's what Mapi32.dll is. Perhaps I haven't noticed anything because I use Thunderbird and just have a normal pop email account. (Not that mapi's abnormal!)
I think you're confusing MAPI with IMAP. IMAP is an email protocol. MAPI is an API for hooking applications into windows email clients (outlook & outlook express).
Eck
Jul 21 2005, 05:10 PM
Yep, your right I did confuse them. So, these media players like the stub (or whatever that smaller version is) version rather than the default one that comes with Windows Me. Hmmm. So folks with Windows Me wind up with the little stub while those using 98SE2ME get to put back the bigger, macho version whenever they update 98SE2ME.
Whatever, as long as stuff works right!
Eck
Jul 21 2005, 05:26 PM
By the way, I'm considering putting Windows Me on my A7V333. For one thing, I'd like to see if the Saitek gamepad drivers have the same effect on Windows Me as they do on any 98SE install I've had. Plus, I want to experiment and see what WinMeDos (that semi-dual boot thing) is like. Instead of providing access to Ms-Dos 8, it uses Ms-Dos 7.1 from 98SE. Interesting.
I might wait until I'm done with a game I'm playing, but if I get antsy this game allows me to copy my saves to a cd. It depends what I want to do more, play a game or play with computers. Computers can make for long delays.
I'm sure XP would be the best choice for that computer but I only have one XP and 2 98SE full retails, a 98 Gold full retail, a Windows Me full retail, and a Windows Me Upgrade for 98 users. Gosh, I sure would like to use at least one of those!
Edit - There we go! Hopefully the thought police are busy elsewhere.
PsycoUnc
Jul 21 2005, 06:31 PM
-yup, Micro$hit will sue u just for thinking about it! Best to leave such things out of public forums...
(ps: so ya might wanna edit that post, make it M$-safe...)
>;]
eidenk
Jul 21 2005, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 15 2005, 12:11 AM)
[7za.exe] is designed to work only in Win32 GUI mode, even if it is a ["console" as it is also called in NTx] command line tool. Does not have a real DOS mode module. It's pure 32-bit.
If u would like to have real DOS mode support for the 7Z format, u could email the author and ask if he plans developing such feature:
http://www.7-zip.org/support.htmlQUOTE
7-Zip Release Name: 4.24 beta- Command line version now supports short file names (like FILENA~1.TXT)
Does this make it now DOS compatible ?
eidenk
Jul 21 2005, 07:32 PM
Has anyone an idea about the legality of the following. I have ME and 98SE (and 95). I currently have a single computer on which I use ME but I might recycle some of my (not so) old hardware to put together a second box and install 98SE on it.
The question is : Do I need a second copy of ME if I want to use totally legaly 98SE2ME on that second computer ?
iWindoze
Jul 21 2005, 09:04 PM
Is there a way to slipstream 98SE2ME as part of an install?
It is a bat file after all, so I'd THINK it would work....
Could you give some advice on how to do so, following the
code\examples given in the 'Unattended and Updated Boot
CD for Windows 98' thread?
Thanks in advance!
PsycoUnc
Jul 21 2005, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (eidenk @ Jul 21 2005, 09:32 PM)
Has anyone an idea about the legality of the following. I have ME and 98SE (and 95). I currently have a single computer on which I use ME but I might recycle some of my (not so) old hardware to put together a second box and install 98SE on it.
The question is : Do I need a second copy of ME if I want to use totally legaly 98SE2ME on that second computer ?
-well, if ya ask the Evil Greedy Thought Police (Micro$hit), then yup, ya need at least one more copy, better yet 3 or 4, just to be safe...

Technically, any part of the ME OS can only be on one puter at a time, is how M$ would see it... The way I'd (like to) see it, is that you have a total of 3 legal OS's, so ya should be able to use any combination of the 3 on a total of 3 puters... but I'm sure M$ wouldn't see it that way... but I wouldn't worry about it, M$ has pretty much written off those old OS's by now...
(I would include more here, about using X-SETUP to help ensure your Privacy in this matter, but I believe the Forum Gods would frown upon such details...)
>;]
eidenk
Jul 22 2005, 05:24 AM
QUOTE (PsycoUnc @ Jul 21 2005, 10:52 PM)
(I would include more here, about using X-SETUP to help ensure your Privacy in this matter, but I believe the Forum Gods would frown upon such details...)
>;]
Who do you mean by Forum Gods ?
Those who have failed so far to answer my interrogations about the legal aspects of Tihy's Revolution pack distributed from this Forum ?
Those who don't moderate Mitchellovision and his keygens ?
Or someone else ?
MDGx
Jul 23 2005, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (Eck @ Jul 21 2005, 05:10 PM)
Yep, your right I did confuse them. So, these media players like the stub (or whatever that smaller version is) version rather than the default one that comes with Windows Me. Hmmm. So folks with Windows Me wind up with the little stub while those using 98SE2ME get to put back the bigger, macho version whenever they update 98SE2ME.
Whatever, as long as stuff works right!
The smaller "stub" is [probably] just a fake "stub", which means it redirects calls to/from MAPI32.DLL functions to other files installed by whatever program replaced MAPI32.DLL with the fake one.
MAPI32.DLL has nothing to do with IMAP.
IMAP = Internet Message Access Protocol (e-mail retrieval)
and is used by all IMAP compatible e-mail apps/clients.
Hope this helps.
MDGx
Jul 23 2005, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (eidenk @ Jul 21 2005, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE
7-Zip Release Name: 4.24 beta- Command line version now supports short file names (like FILENA~1.TXT)
Does this make it now DOS compatible ?
A program which supports SFNs, is not necessarily a native DOS mode program, which is the case with 7-zip console tool [7ZA.EXE].
To my knowledge, 7za.exe never was and will never be able to run from native DOS.
You could email its author for more details:
http://www.7-zip.org/support.htmlHope this helps.
MDGx
Jul 23 2005, 12:49 PM
QUOTE (iWindoze @ Jul 21 2005, 09:04 PM)
Is there a way to slipstream 98SE2ME as part of an install?
It is a bat file after all, so I'd THINK it would work....
Could you give some advice on how to do so, following the
code\examples given in the 'Unattended and Updated Boot
CD for Windows 98' thread?
Thanks in advance!
To add the batch file name [E0!X.BAT = the 1 responsible for installing 98SE2ME option 2 = please see
READ1ST.TXT for details if you're not familiar with 98SE2ME options] to MSBATCH.INF [for example] is very easy:
CODE
[Install]
RunPostSetupCommands=98SE2ME
[98SE2ME]
"C:\9!M\E0!X.BAT"
Please note that this will not make it 100% unattended, because I'm using LOCATE.COM in E0!X.BAT to detect the WinME CABs. LOCATE /G requires user to press Y to switch to CABs directory.
But u can make it 100% unattended if u replace this line:
c:\9!m\locate /g ... whatever
with this code:
CODE
:L0
SET PATH=C:\;%PATH%
IF EXIST C:\*.??T C:\9!M\ATTRIB.COM/B +A -H -R -S C:\*.??T>NUL
IF EXIST C:\directory.BAT DEL C:\directory.BAT>NUL
IF EXIST C:\$!?.??T DEL C:\$!?.??T>NUL
SET A$Z=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
ECHO SET D$R="%%2 %%3 %%4 %%5 %%6 %%7 %%8 %%9">C:\directory.BAT
ECHO @ECHO OFF>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO SET D$V=%%1>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% DIR/-P %%D$V%%:\ | C:\9!M\FIND "file"> NUL %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO @!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% DIR/S %%D$V%%:\WIN_8.CAB> C:\$!0.TXT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% TYPE C:\$!0.TXT | C:\9!M\FIND "-" | C:\9!M\FIND ":"> C:\$!1.TXT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% COPY/Y C:\$!1.TXT C:\$!2.TXT> NUL %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO IF NOT EXIST C:\$!2.TXT GOTO @!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% TYPE C:\$!0.TXT | C:\9!M\FIND "Directory"> C:\$!1.BAT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO :@!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
CTTY NUL
FOR %%F IN (%A$Z%) DO IF NOT EXIST C:\$!1.BAT CALL C:\$!0.BAT %%F
IF EXIST C:\$!1.BAT CALL C:\$!1.BAT
CTTY CON
IF EXIST C:\directory.BAT DEL C:\directory.BAT>NUL
IF EXIST C:\$!?.??T DEL C:\$!?.??T>NUL
IF "%D$R%"=="" SET D$V=
SET A$Z=
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\BASE2.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER5.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER6.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER7.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\NET3.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\NET4.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\PRECOPY1.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_10.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_11.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_12.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_13.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_14.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_15.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_16.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_17.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_18.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_19.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_20.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_21.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_22.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_8.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_9.CAB GOTO C0B
GOTO C1B
:C0B
CLS
ECHO REQUIRED WinME Setup *.CAB files NOT found!
ECHO MUST ALREADY have ALL WinME *.CAB files ANYWHERE on your fixed local
ECHO hard disk(s)/partition(s) OR ALREADY have your WinME Gold (RTM) build
ECHO 4.90.3000 English Setup CD-ROM inside your 1st CD/DVD drive (if more
ECHO than 1) !
ECHO ONLY AFTER that:
ECHO * Press Y to REDETECT REQUIRED CABs + INSTALL WinME system files OR
ECHO * Press N to CONTINUE WITHOUT INSTALL WinME system files.
ECHO.
C:\9!M\CHOICE/C:YN /T:N,99 /N
IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GOTO UDL
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO L0
:C1B
Make sure you match GOTO label names with the rest of the E0!X batch to avoid errors.
Of course, this requires all 98SE2ME files to be already installed into C:\9!M [default dir name selected during 98SE2ME.EXE setup = cannot be changed, because 98SE2ME options depend on this dir location and files in it].
Hope this helps.
iWindoze
Jul 24 2005, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (MDGx @ Jul 23 2005, 01:49 PM)
It does! Thanks very much!

Err...since I have your attention, could you perhaps pass on a link or
three on using MSBATCH.INF, *.bats and *.regs for installing Win98SE
unintended w/ apps being preinstalled as part of the deal? I've been
looking about and haven't had much luck with the Gods of Google...most
listings seem to either point to MS's pages or to forums like this one. In
particular one thing I'd like to know is how to direct Windows 98SE setup
to where my Win3.x files are (I have an upgrade version and the win3.x
files are small enough to justify placing on an install cd if it'll automate my
process better)? Then again any help is appreciated!
PS: Thanks for everything, I'm a long time user of your W95-11d.zips
and they've taught me as much as my old AST 2001 Adventure did by
maiking me work and read and learn.
MDGx
Jul 26 2005, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (iWindoze @ Jul 24 2005, 05:29 PM)
Err...since I have your attention, could you perhaps pass on a link or
three on using MSBATCH.INF, *.bats and *.regs for installing Win98SE
unintended w/ apps being preinstalled as part of the deal?
Best links I know of to MSBATCH.INF sites:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#DEVSoporific's posts in particular, are extremely detailed:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=49892Hope this helps.
crashnburn
Jul 29 2005, 05:36 PM
just noticed an abberration on one of my 98me machines........... no clock in the tray.....

might not have anything to do with the upgrades. right click where it's supposed to be and the clock menu shows........ the box is checked for the clock to be there, but when i uncheck the box the space for the clock disappears......

lol.......... no am/pm in my documents either....... date/time is in control panel, totally functional......... clue?

appreciate the assist........
MDGx
Jul 29 2005, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (crashnburn @ Jul 29 2005, 05:36 PM)
just noticed an abberration on one of my 98me machines........... no clock in the tray.....

might not have anything to do with the upgrades. right click where it's supposed to be and the clock menu shows........ the box is checked for the clock to be there, but when i uncheck the box the space for the clock disappears......

lol.......... no am/pm in my documents either....... date/time is in control panel, totally functional......... clue?

appreciate the assist........
This has nothing to do with 98SE2ME.
If clock menu available when u right-click, probably means that:
1. either font color used to display the clock is same with tray background color.
2. or font used to display the clock is either not compatible with 98/ME [i.e. Unicode for NTx OSes] or font file damaged.
Change clock font: right-click on empty Desktop spot -> Properties -> Appearance tab -> Item: box -> Active Title Bar -> Font box -> scroll to the installed font of your choice -> Apply/OK.
3. or u need to reset clock digits to default [HH:mm:ss tt] from Control Panel -> Regional Settings -> Time tab -> Time style: box -> type [example: Windows default]:
HH:mm:ss tt
Mine is [no leading zeroes]:
H:m:s tt
Hope this helps.
crashnburn
Jul 30 2005, 01:49 AM

that was tooooooooooooo easy........... never thought of checking the reg. settings............. nothing there.....lol.............. thanks again........

p.s. - wishlist........ whattabout combining the date/time & regional setting objects in the control panel????? possibly tab oriented?
os2fan2
Jul 30 2005, 04:21 AM
I can't see the point in replacing EDIT.COM or EDIT.HLP. These are identical in all of the operating systems released (ie 95, 95B, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, 2003).
There may also be other binary equals that do not need to be replaced.
W
MDGx
Aug 2 2005, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (os2fan2 @ Jul 30 2005, 04:21 AM)
I can't see the point in replacing EDIT.COM or EDIT.HLP. These are identical in all of the operating systems released (ie 95, 95B, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, 2003).
There may also be other binary equals that do not need to be replaced.
W
You're right.
EDIT.HLP from 98SE + ME are binary identical.
But EDIT.COM from ME is binary + filesize different compared to EDIT.COM from 98SE:
EDIT.COM from 98SE setup CD = 69902 Bytes
EDIT.COM from ME setup CD = 69854 Bytes
I will remove EDIT.HLP from 98SE2ME in next update.
I've also noticed that MSCDEX.EXE is binary identical in both 98SE + ME.
I'll remove MSCDEX.EXE too from 98SE2ME in next update.
Thanks for your help.
Blue_ray
Aug 4 2005, 09:57 AM
i have install 98se2me. after the computer reboot. ans show the win98se startup screen, the my computer shutdown. can anyone help me?..........
thanks
Infamous
Aug 5 2005, 03:12 AM
Hi

,
can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down.

And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.
thx in advance.
PsycoUnc
Aug 5 2005, 11:12 AM
QUOTE (Infamous @ Aug 5 2005, 05:12 AM)
Hi

,
can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down.

And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.
thx in advance.
--the link at the top of this thread works fine... (1pm EST)...
MDGx
Aug 6 2005, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (Infamous @ Aug 5 2005, 03:12 AM)
Hi

,
can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down.

And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.
thx in advance.
Hi Infamous, and welcome to MSFN forums.
Must have been either a short outage on part of my provider, or if you were using a download manager, you need to disable it and use your web browser to d/l any file at my site.
My provider's servers do not support download managers.
Link works now [please try again]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4as of Saturday August 6 5PM GMT.
About translating 98SE2ME into German:
D/l 98SE2ME, install it, and then open C:\9!M\INNOFILE.TXT in Notepad: contains a few guidelines about what needs to be done to translate 98SE2ME into languages other than English.
If you need more help besides that, please
E-mail me.
Hope this helps.
MDGx
Aug 6 2005, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Blue_ray @ Aug 4 2005, 09:57 AM)
i have install 98se2me. after the computer reboot. ans show the win98se startup screen, the my computer shutdown. can anyone help me?..........
thanks
Hi Blue_ray, and welcome to MSFN forums.
Never heard of such problem.
Are you sure it was 98SE2ME that caused this on your computer?
If you are sure, please post here all details of what happened, otherwise I'm afraid I can't help.

If you don't want to post your computer details here, please
E-mail me.
Hope this helps.
eidenk
Aug 6 2005, 10:51 AM
QUOTE
My provider's servers do not support download managers.
Hi, MDGx, I've just successfully used
Net Transport 1.87 to download your link.
crashnburn
Aug 6 2005, 01:32 PM
always appreciative of all that you and the contributors do........... don't know if you saw my post edit p.s. or i'm in the wrong thread on this wish......... what about combing the date/time and regional settings into one .cpl on any new mods?????
MDGx
Aug 6 2005, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (crashnburn @ Aug 6 2005, 01:32 PM)
always appreciative of all that you and the contributors do........... don't know if you saw my post edit p.s. or i'm in the wrong thread on this wish......... what about combing the date/time and regional settings into one .cpl on any new mods?????
This requires hexing the CPL [and probably other files too], which is not the scope of 98SE2ME.
98SE2ME is not a tweaking tool, but only a collection of scripts created with only 1 purpose: to facilitate the installation of WinME system files from WinME Setup CD unattended on 98SE OS.
Please see READ1ST.TXT for more details:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXTTo customize date/time/regional values on your computer the way u want:
- either open control panel -> open appropriate CPL -> make your changes -> save.
- either open Regedit -> go to appropriate reg subkey [most time/date values are kept under HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\International ] -> change what u want -> save.
- either use a tweaking tool like X-Setup [v6.6 is freeware]:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#SYSHope this helps.
crashnburn
Aug 6 2005, 10:34 PM
consider me updated........ w/gratitude......... tweak or script......... my 98se has never run better............ and i consider the 2nd half of your response a gift............ thank you again.................
Excalibur007
Aug 7 2005, 04:51 AM
New 98 SE logos: Attached here.
Click to view attachmentPreview Pic: (Startup shown, Shutdown is similar)

Please give feedback on the logos (positive or negative)

.
I'm not quite happy with these yet.
Thanks,
-Ex
Edit:I didn't like how the window frames looked squashed, so I made some changes to the blue and orange ones. Let me know if you like them better now. BTW, feel free to PM me so we don't put too much clutter in MDGx's thread.
Excalibur007
Aug 7 2005, 05:18 AM
New 98 SE2ME logos: Attached here.
Click to view attachmentPreview Pic: (Startup shown, Shutdown is similar)

Please give feedback. I also have them with transparency in the window frames instead of the colors fading to white. The transparent ones don't stand out as much as these, but if you think you'd like to see them, let me know.
Thanks,
-Ex
Edit:I didn't like how the window frames looked squashed, so I made some changes to the blue and orange ones. Let me know if you like them better now. BTW, feel free to PM me so we don't put too much clutter in MDGx's thread.
chankya
Aug 7 2005, 10:30 PM
Dear Excalibur007
It's BEAUTIFUL. that's all what i can say i have no word to appriciate this best wishesh.
thanks
Infamous
Aug 8 2005, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (MDGx @ Aug 6 2005, 10:26 AM)
Hi Infamous, and welcome to MSFN forums.
Must have been either a short outage on part of my provider, or if you were using a download manager, you need to disable it and use your web browser to d/l any file at my site.
My provider's servers do not support download managers.
Link works now [please try again]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4as of Saturday August 6 5PM GMT.
About translating 98SE2ME into German:
D/l 98SE2ME, install it, and then open C:\9!M\INNOFILE.TXT in Notepad: contains a few guidelines about what needs to be done to translate 98SE2ME into languages other than English.
If you need more help besides that, please
E-mail me.
Hope this helps.
I had no Luck downloading it with Windows.

Everytime I get the 403 Errorpage. Then i booted my Linux (Vectorlinux 5.1) and the Site opens in my Browser and i downloaded all the files i needed.
randiroo76073
Aug 8 2005, 06:46 AM
Great work Excalibur

real nice logos, your gonna end up being official logo person for 98se
Blue_ray
Aug 8 2005, 07:28 AM
what kind of detail did you mind. i think maybe the problem it's from the mouse driver. i try to run my com with step n step confirmation. everything it's ok, and then the com say can't load mouse.drv. if i enter my com shut down.
sorry for my english...
Gape
Aug 8 2005, 11:32 AM
QUOTE (Excalibur007 @ Aug 7 2005, 12:51 PM)
New 98 SE logos
Please give feedback on the logos (positive or negative)

.
I'm not quite happy with these yet.
Great! Now SP has very professional looking logos
Petr
Aug 8 2005, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (Excalibur007 @ Aug 7 2005, 12:51 PM)
New 98 SE logos:
Please give feedback on the logos (positive or negative)

.
I'm not quite happy with these yet.
I think these logos are nice, but they don't look like Windows 98 logos, more like Windows ME logos I'd say.
Petr
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