I'll consider your suggestions for the next update.
Thanks.

Option 3 does not un-install

logagent.exe from WinME is newer than the one in the Windows Media Player folder.

These are all relevant versions [except 2003 + Vista which are irrelevant to this subject] renamed so they can fit inside the same folder:

10.0.0.3802 LOGAGENT.M10 = from WMP10 for XP = does NOT work with Win9x OSes
9.0.0.3287 LOGAGENT.COD = from WMP10 Codecs + DRM for WMP9 = best to use with Win9x OSes
9.0.0.3250 LOGAGENT.XP2 = from WinXP SP2 + WinXP SP2 setup CD-ROM
9.0.0.2980 LOGAGENT.M90 = from WMP9 for 98SE/ME
8.0.0.4477 LOGAGENT.WXP = from WinXP [original retail] Pre-SP2 setup CD-ROM
7.1.0.3055 LOGAGENT.M71 = from WMP 7.1
7.0.0.1954 LOGAGENT.M70 = from WMP 7.0
7.0.0.1440 LOGAGENT.WME = from WinME setup CD-ROM
4.1.0.3925 LOGAGENT.M64 = from WMP 6.4
3.0.0.2700 LOGAGENT.W98 = from Win98 SE setup CD-ROM

HTH

Actually it does, but the way I wrote the restore INF, it wants to reboot before the last BAT command [RUNDLL32.EXE %windir%\SYSTEM\SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx 2 = which reboots anyway] kicks in.

I have updated both the BAT + the INF [renamed now to O3RES.*] to properly reboot without any nagging prompts after option 3 uninstall is complete.
In O3RES.INF changed these entries to read:

SmartReboot=N
Reboot=0

In O3RES.BAT moved reboot "RUNDLL32.EXE %windir%\SYSTEM\SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx 2" commands right after the O3RES.INF commands.

Please try 98SE2ME option 3 again, and see if uninstall works completely unattended now, as it should [3 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4

Thanks for noticing.

Finally found time to read in detail all your requests/questions.

1. Which icon do you want to replace in systray.exe with which icon? Do you have an icon you would like to use, or any suggestions from shell32.dll or cool.dll or moricons.dll maybe?
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip6.htm#APPLETICO
More icons here in DLL format [324 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/WINICONS.ZIP
and here [334 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/WINXPICO.EXE
When you describe the icon ID number, please keep in mind that the 1st icon ID is always number 0 [zero].
Correct way to display icon number:
systray.exe,3
In this case 3 means icon # 4 is displayed [counting up from icon # 0].

2. Some people may want [for whatever reason] to restore those files [?], so it's a good idea IMO to back them up, no matter if they are obsolete or not for most of us.
If you refer to options 5, 6 + 7 = notepad.exe, exporer.exe + winfile.exe from Win98 SE setup CD-ROM [which are backed up in %windir% as notepd98.exe, explorer.256 + winfil98.exe, respectively], all 3 together take only 380 KiloBytes [KB].
Option 4 [new 98SE2ME logo] backs up:
- logo.sys from C:\ root = backed up as C:\logo.w98 = takes 127 KB.
- logow.sys + logos.sys [if any] from %windir% = backed up as %windir%\*.w98 = take together 253 KB.
Option 4 backed up files take together 370 KB.
Option 3 backs up these files:
- explorer.exe from %windir% as %windir%\explorer.98a = takes 176 KB [original file from Win98SE setup CD-ROM] or 190 KB [Gape's modded file also installed by 98SE2ME option 6].
- COMDLG32.DLL, DOCPROP.DLL, FONTEXT.DLL, MYDOCS.DLL, PLUSTAB.DLL, SHELL32.DLL, SHSCRAP.DLL, WEBVW.DLL + IESHWIZ.EXE from %windir%\system as %windir%\system\*.98a = together they take 2.13 MB.
Option 3 backed up files take all together 2.2 MB.
Options 3, 4, 5, 6 +7 backed up files take all together under 3 MB of disk space.
Of course, if you'd like to delete them, you can do this easily by using a dedicated batch file, like this one:3. Sigverif.exe I believe has different functions in WinME than Win98SE.
But I would have to test some more to be sure.
Winpopup.exe is an optional component, installed only if installing extra network tools from Windows Setup control panel applet, and is useful only if using a network to notify other people [on same network or computer(s)] about events they should know about.
Winpopup.exe from Win98SE does not have any different functionality compared to the one from WinME.
Actually I believe M$ only modified version info [to 4.90.3000 from 4.10.1998], the rest of the file is identical.

4. I haven't noticed that Network Neighborhood folder, but I'm using a tweaked OS [changed names and locations of lots of system folders], so I guess on my computer I have placed it in the %TEMP% folder, which gets erased every time upon reboot.
Please post here the exact name and location for this folder, and I'll see what I can do about it.
Please keep in mind that an empty folder or file [0 Bytes] does not take any space on the HD, unless its name is LFN, in which case it takes 2 FAT entries instead of one [32 Bytes on a FAT32 disk].

5. Nobody contacted me nor posted here such code, so I'm waiting for a concerned person with spare time to do this. Thanks in advance.
The only file inside 98SE2ME.EXE is PATMM.EXE [372 KB] which patches original [older] moviemk.exe from WinME setup CD-ROM [CABs] to the newer version [1.0.1377.0], making it identical with the one from the Q287564 hotfix.
FTPINFO.DAT [copies over also as FTPINFO.SHP] is also included because it has to be changed to delete obsolete URLs, but that's only a small plain text [ASCII] file [2214 Bytes].
All other movie maker related files are extracted from WinME CABs.

6. As I said before in READ1ST.TXT [the "FAQ" section]...
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXTDepending on your CPU speed + HD access time, installing even option 1 [which takes the longest time to install] should not take more than 1-2 minute(s) max.
All other options take ~ 10-30 seconds tops.
Only if selecting to create a new backup [options 1 + 2], that adds another minute max to total install time.
And to my knowledge, all backups override older ones [if any], so no new files are created.

HTH

@ MDGx: Will be there a final version of 98SE2ME?

Option 3 still doesn't un-install

Movie Maker shortcut is still there.
also It should be C:\Programs Files\Movie Maker
I think the appropriate shortcut will be good in the
entertainment folder with WMP as the default location.
Also heres a icon for MM below


WinXP shell32.dll
Icon 1284,1033 in Resource Hacker
its pretty cool for systray

thanks for the bat file above.

Also heres a new Dunzip32.dll file version 5.0.0.5

I have moved the Movie Maker shortcut [98SE2ME option 3] to %windir%\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\Multimedia and this shortcut can be opened from:
Start button -> Programs -> Accessories -> Multimedia.

I haven't replaced dunzip32.dll with this newer version because I don't know where it comes from [bundled with some software ?], and it might be be copyrighted, in the sense that 3rd parties may not be allowed to distribute it separately. [?]
Do you also have dzip32.dll 5.xx that works with zipfldr.dll?
I got another 5.xx version of these 2 files that don't work with zipfldr.dll.
Besides, 4.xx version files work great [so far].
And originally, zipfldr.dll was developed to use older ver 2.xx, so using newer D*ZIP32.DLL versions won't make any difference, IMHO.

I have also replaced [98SE2ME options 1 + 2] systray.exe 4.90.3002 icon group #1 with XP SP2 shell32.dll icon group #312.

I have not replaced Movie Maker [moviemk.exe] icon with the 1 you sent because it is only slightly different [doesn't have the orange borders, instead has transparent borders], and besides, some people may like the original Movie Maker icon better.
But if you prefer to change the MM shortcut icon, just right-click on it and then browse to the DLL, EXE, ICL or ICO file of your choice.
Using a tool like Microangelo Icon Studio [shareware :-(]:
http://www.microangelo.us/
you can also create/edit your own icon or icon group.
Then using Resource Hacker [freeware]:
http://www.users.on.net/johnson/resourcehacker/
you can even replace it inside the moviemk.exe file, if you wish.

BTW:
The Movie Maker shortcut was properly deleted on my computer when I uninstalled option 3 from Control Panel.
I tried this on both my tweaked 98SE and on a "fresh-install" 98SE only with IE 6.0 SP1 + DX 9.0c installed.
I have no idea why it is not removed on your computer.

Thanks for the pointers.

Enjoy.

No I don't

But i did get the file from here SonicStage

http://support.sony-europe.com/DNA/sonicst...age_dl.asp?l=en


What are the files i need to install system restore.I need to do some testing.

Thanks.
I'll take a look at the Sonic software EULA.

All files installed by System Restore/PCHealth/Windows File Protection in WinME should be listed inside PCHEALTH.INF.
If you have WinME already installed, this file is inside %windir%\INF .
If you have WinME CABs, extract it using this DOS command:

EXTRACT/Y D:\WIN9X\PRECOPY1.CAB /L C:\TEMP PCHEALTH.INF

Then open PCHEALTH.INF in Notepad, and look for the files listed under the sections enumerated on the CopyFiles= directive.

HTH

Why 98SE2ME don't support MaxFileCache=524288
i read the manual and it says MaxFileCache=393216
or am i mistaken.

I would like this problem fixed also please.
Thank you very much also i have a big network
and the hand is missing under shared folders another problem i would
like to see fixed.Thanks again for a healthy Win98SE system.

1. To get back your 98 SE style dialog boxes:
After installing 98SE2ME options 1 or 2 you need to replace %windir%\SYSTEM\SHELL.DLL with the original one found as SHELL.NEW [rename it as SHELL.DLL] on Win98SE setup CD-ROM [CABs] inside WIN98_51.CAB [example using D as drive letter for your CD/DVD drive, change as necessary]:
EXTRACT/Y D:\WIN98\WIN98_51.CAB /L C:\TEMP SHELL.NEW
REN C:\TEMP\SHELL.NEW SHELL.DLL
Then exit Windows or reboot to native MS-DOS and replace %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\SHELL.DLL with the one in C:\TEMP .
Type WIN and press Enter to get back to Windows UI or reboot normal.
Done.
Or you can use a DOS batch file to do all this [example]:
2. The "missing hand" under shared folders issue:
I don't have a network [except my connection to the internet], and I have deleted all remote shared folders a long time ago. Therefore I can't test this in my environment.
But if/when I have the time to restore a "virgin"/"from scratch" Win98SE setup, I'll try to research this.
And if I find the culprit for the "missing hand", I'll post it here.

HTH

Quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT
98SE2ME options 1 + 2 add the "MaxFileCache=393216" setting in %windir%\SYSTEM.INI for the safety of all 98SE OSes, because 98SE systems with over 384 MB of RAM may not restart properly or may lockup if this setting is not present in SYSTEM.INI.
But you can change "MaxFileCache=" to whatever you want.

"MaxFileCache=524288" = is maximum supported by 98SE OS in order to boot properly with large amounts of RAM.

More info:
THPC: Vcache Settings for Windows 95/98/ME:
http://www.thpc.info/ram/vcache.html
MSKB: 32-Bit File Access Maximum Cache Size:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=108079
MSKB: Out of Memory Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=253912
MSKB: Windows 95 May Fail to Boot Due to I/O Subsystem Failure:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=225497

HTH

MDGx, at first sight everything's fine for me, except for one thing that's been bothering me ever since I first tried 98SE2ME: fonts always get back to Western after installing 98SE2ME.

I have Win98SE English installed with Regional Settings set to Romanian at install time. That sets codepage, keyboard layout and all stuff. Apparently, 98SE2ME copies a different set of fonts from the ME CD, when installed, which makes all Romanian characters look weird.

I have found a simple workaround that could be used by the installer: backup the FONTS folder in %windir% to FONTSBKP or whatever name, install whatever selected option in 98SE2ME, then restore the fonts folder, overwriting the newly copied fonts with the ones in the backup.

A better solution would be to read the regional settings, figure out what fonts are needed and then copy the right ones from the ME CD. But the workaround above would do as well.



Thank you for all your work.

Thanks for your feedback.

Unfortunately I have not envisioned tweaking 98SE2ME to regional settings.
I've designed it only for English editions with no regional specific fonts.
But you have a good point.
Could you please list here all Romanian specific font names found in your %windir%\FONTS folder?
Also, if you can post here the registry values for Romanian codepage/keyboard/fonts settings would be helpful.
Thanks for your time.
That way I'll have something to work with, and I'm going to try to find a fix.
But if nothing works, I'll just backup all fonts from %windir%\FONTS into something like %windir%\FONTS.9ME whenever one installs 98SE2ME options 1 or 2, so they can restore them afterwards if necessary.

Mult noroc

This font discussion interests me because of my troubles lately on any 98SE install except, for some reason so far, my current install in VMWare.

In all cases I install 98SE2ME as part of my 98SE setting up. Eventually, after some random software installation I get an Error Loading Device IOS Real Mode Memory Allocation Failed on bootup and from then on can only get into Safe Mode.

First I thought it was an SBLive software thing, then MSN Messenger, then Nero, then Spybot Search and Destroy. I now realize it is no relation to which program is being installed, but some other problem. I've read a Microsoft KB that mentioned that it could happen on restart after a program install, especially if MSCONFIG is used to limit the amount of memory Windows uses. So last time I left out the MaxPhysPage=40000 line from System.ini and deleted it when it was installed by the Service Pack and 98SE2ME. That's when the bootup error still occured after restarting from the Spybot Search and Destroy installation.

When that happened I got desperate so I installed RegRepair2000 and spent hours using its IOS repair utility. Mostly that dealt with deleting all my font's and reinstalling them. Apparently, ALL my font's were corrupted somehow. By what, I have no idea, but ALL of them were failing to load according to my bootlog. The only other potential problems found by RegRepair2000 was that a few vxd's were being loaded from the System folder and, according to RegRepair2000, it was possible that Windows already had these files within the vxd file and these might possibly be duplicates.

The previous time startup had failed with Nero, I had tried removing all the Adaptec/Roxio Windows Media Player Plugin driver's, but this didn't fix anything.

I'm thinking the culprit might possibly be something being done to the registering of the Font files by one of the updates I'm applying to my system. And seeing this thread I'm thinking that it might well be 98SE2ME. I don't KNOW this, of course. I'm just trying to figure out why I can't use Windows 98SE on ANY computer (except for, so far, a VMWare installation.)

In case you're wondering, no, renaming or removing smartdrv.exe or rmm.pdr, or extracting and replacing these from the 98SE installation cd had no effect in fixing Windows startup when I tried those old fixes. And they seem to be the only possible fixes, with the exception of not limiting Windows memory use, that I have seen when searching the net for a possible solution.

So my question is, on my next attempt at a real (not VMWare, which for some reason isn't acting up yet) 98SE installation, should I use the new restore Font folder option in 98SE2ME in an attempt to prevent this font corruption from occuring?

Or, what what else can be tried? And, why in the world AREN'T my font's being corrupted when I install the same stuff on my VMWare 98SE install?

Or, could it be the HP Scanjet 3970 that I have not installed on my VMWare install that is the culprit. That's the only other thing I've found regarding this IOS thing, that scanner software sometimes can also cause this problem.

I wanna run 98SE! This is p---ing me off. (Just angry at my computer's, don't take that personal!)

That was quick.

I have to apologize, I'm having a bad time currently, can't quite focus on anything. I see you added the backup option, but I have no machine to test on, right now. I'll try to build one these days, if I feel up to, and I'll let you know.

Regarding font names, that might be a bit complicated, because I have installed OfficeXP and IE6 SP1 with all language display options, which added to the Fonts folder and it'd be hard to tell which is which. I would also need some directions regarding the specific registry keys to look for, as I'm not that familiar with it and some other users that use different regional settings and have problems with the fonts might wanna share in their experience and settings. I know, I'm not being very helpful right now, sorry for that. You're doing a great job, as always.

More interesting, since I also choose a custom install, select full, then add all the abilities to display all the languages leaving out the few that are only to input (not interested in input, just the ability to have all languages to be displayed) when installing Internet Explorer 6 SP1 from the Microsoft cd. I usually install Works 8, the update for it, the programs included in WorksSuite 2005 (but the 2006 full versions of them) and OfficeXP Pro Plus with Frontpage and Publisher 2002.

Although Word 2000 was okay to install before the 98SE Unofficial Service Pack, I've found that I've needed to install the Service Pack first before installing OfficeXP. Otherwise the registry would be corrupted on restart after the Service Pack. I think Office XP has newer MDAC files than the Service Pack installs. If installed after the Service Pack, things are fine.

Except, of course, for the eventual IOS Error that seems to be caused by corrupted font's or their registry entries.

The parallel here, although slightly different as Drugwash experiences a single language font problem, is font stuff going on in Office, IE, and 98SE2ME installation's. One difference of course, is that Drugwash's system is not permanently destroyed by an IOS bootup error as mine is.

It looks to me like there is some relation. Perhaps some solution to this might help both of our situations?

OOOOH, MDGx. can you send me v5.00.07 of DUNZIP32.DLL and DZIP32.DLL files?
older versions of DUNZIP32.DLL (from 5.00.03 and earlier) are vulnerable to the dunzip32.dll buffer overflow security problem mentioned at these sites:
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/429361/30/0/threaded
http://secunia.com/advisories/19451/
http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Sec...4/msg00000.html

Please check your email.

My "Send to" functionality has been damaged. Initially "Drag and drop" stopped working too but it was restored by revisiting option 1.

The problem arose via the installation and, ultimately, the forced deinstallation of option 3 (ME explorer, shell32, etc.).

The deinstallation failed. I changed the files manually. Next I edited the the option restore .bat file until I could get it to run to fix the registry setting. That almost returned things to their previous state, with "drag and drop" and "sent to" remaining as problems. Afterward, option 1 fixed "drag and drop".

The exact problem is this: although "sent to" desktop works, send to Notepad (I put the shortcut to it in the send to list) or any other program (again via a short cut) fails. Putting Notepad or any other program in the send to list itself (i.e. elminating the shortcut) does not help. The functionality works perfectly on my other machine that has only had option 1 applied.

Any suggestions as to what the problem is and how to fix it?

Thanx,

cure

PS I have been using this killer replacement on other machines for years now and it is great. Many thanx!

@ erpdude8
you know mcafee has a dunzip32.dll version 5.0.0.6
which works with Win98SE
also about Version 5.00.07 DUNZIP32.DLL/DZIP32.DLL files
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&...st&p=512785

Craps! I just typed a whole post and lost it when either Comcast or my Firewall got jammed up when I tried to submit it.

Anyway, some news from the IOS error, real mode memory allocation failed front.

It happened to me AGAIN!

BUT! This time I renamed smartdrv.exe in the Windows folder to smartdrv.exe.old in Safe Mode and it worked. I then tried extracting a fresh one using System File Checker, but when that file is there Windows won't boot to normal mode. It just gives that IOS error message. So I deleted the file (keeping the renamed version, smartdrv.exe.old, there just in case I need it for something - I think it's the one installed by 98SE2ME) and Windows boots up fine.

For good measure I had TweakUI repair the Font folder, but for some reason I'm not getting all the font failed messages in bootlog.txt this time.

It is really weird, as I thought there was no using smartdrv.exe within Windows 98SE.

SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\WIN98RK;C:\PROGRA~1\ATITEC~1\ATICON~1

SET CLASSPATH="C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTJava.zip"
SET QTJAVA="C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTJava.zip"

That's my AutoExec.BAT, and my config.sys is empty. So, no calls for smartdrv that I'm aware of. I have no idea why not having the file in the Windows folder fixes the IOS error.

And it looks like 98SE2ME doesn't really effect my font's.

Can I get some help with this, though? Bootlog does show a couple of errors. 2 devices are showing failed in the log, ndis2up.vxd and SDVXD. The other note from bootlog would be 2 Unknown devices, (HTREE\ROOT\0 and HTREE\RESERVED\0.

Possibly related, 2 instances of ACPI IRQ HOLDER FOR PCI IRQ STEERING are showing in System Information as error code 9 in Problem Devices. All my hardware works though.

The other oddity is that clicking on Internet Explorer in System Information brings up a blank window in the right pane, and clicking on File Versions shows all the files as "file missing" except for IEXPLORE.

That might be related to my using the new AutoPatcher Alpha and it failing to install his Module 4. But this is the first time I've seen more than a couple of files listed as missing and the IE pane being totally blank.

My internet is working fine (VIA 6203 on board ethernet), and Internet Explorer, OfficeXP, and Works 8.5 run fine.

Eck:

Try these:

1. Delete completely SMARTDRV.EXE from all your hard drives/partitions.
You can always get it back from the Win98SE or WinME CD-ROMs.
Reboot.
Or, if you prefer to use smartdrv, just add this line to your config.sys in C:\ root:

INSTALLHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 12288 16 A- B- C+ D+ /N /Q

Adapt this line to your HDs: here it caches drives C + D [seen as HDs].
If smartdr.exe is located somewhere else on your computer, modify the path above.
If not using EMM386.EXE, UMBPCI.SYS, RM386.EXE, QEMM386.SYS etc to provide upper memory, no need for INSTALLHIGH= above, which you should replace with INSTALL= .
Reboot.

2. Make sure your %windir%\IOS.INI lists smartdrv.exe among its drivers.
If it does not, extract a fresh copy from the Win98SE CD-ROM [CABs]:

EXTRACT/Y D:\WIN98\WIN98_50.CAB /L %windir% IOS.INI

Change path to CAB if different.
%windir% = usually C:\WINDOWS .
Reboot.

3. In Control Panel -> System -> Computer -> System Devices -> PCI Bus -> IRQ Steering tab -> make sure IRQ steering is turned on -> reboot if making any changes under this tab.

4. Ndis2up bootlog errors are "normal".
To read bootlog details and see delays in boot times, use Bootlog Analyzer [free]:
Boot Log Analyzer (BLA) v1.23 32-bit for Windows 9x/ME checks/reports on slow loading/failed drivers (.SYS, .VXD, .DRV, .DLL, .386 etc) at bootup by analyzing C:\BOOTLOG.TXT:
http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/bootloganalyzer123.html
Direct download [235 KB, freeware]:
http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/bootloganalyzer123.zip
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip14.htm#SUYG

5. Look under Control Panel -> System -> Performance tab -> if any of your drives/partitions is using "MS-DOS compatibility mode". If this is true, you may need to update VIA drivers for your mobo/chipset.

6. If your VMM32.VXD file from %windir%\SYSTEM got corrupted, you can recreate it.
Look under this registry key [using Regedit]:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\VMM32Files
Save the list of VXD files in a REG file [Regedit's Export function].
Copy that list and save it as wininit.ini inside %windir% [example]:Add/remove files until your list matches the 1 from the registry key above.
Extract all these files from the Win98SE CDROM [CABs] into C:\VMMTEMP [example]:

EXTRACT/Y D:\WIN98\WIN98_54.CAB /L C:\VMMTEMP NTKERN.VXD

All files and their CAB locations are listed in CABL98SE.TXT [extract it from this zip]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXTCAB.ZIP

Reboot/restart Windows.
BTW:
Make sure all VXD files newer than the ones from Win98SE CD-ROM are located in %windir%\SYSTEM\VMM32 .

Optional:
download these VMM32 tools:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/VMMTOOLS.ZIP
if you'd like to decompress [unpack] VMM32.VXD to normal size.
More info:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-3.htm#VXDBUG
Reboot.

HTH

The "Send To/Copy To/Move To" shell right-click functions are installed [actually repaired] whenever you first install 98SE2ME.EXE on your hard disk, even if you don't install any options [1 to 8].
More details in READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT
On a "virgin"/from-scratch Win98SE system, these are the only registry values for Send To/Copy To/Move To [if you wish to restore them, but they usually prove to be buggy]:Save the above as C2M2S2.REG [example] and then double-click on it to merge it into your registry.
But first you should uninstall Copy To/Move To/SEnd To from Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs = as detailed above, and only after that merge C2M2S2.REG into your registry.


The NOTEPAD.EXE file associations in the registry are repaired/installed whenever you install option 1 [which also installs PFE32 (better NOTEPAD)] or when you install PFE32 by itself [option 5].
Options 1 + 5 install these registry values, by running:
RUNDLL32.EXE %windir%\SYSTEM\ADVPACK.DLL,LaunchINFSection C:\9!M\O6RES.INF,PFE
The PFE section from O6RES.INF points to the AddReg=FX registry section, which is responsible for installing all PFE text files associations in your registry:

Failure to uninstall option 3 might be due to different versions/builds of system files you had in %windir%\system before you first installed option 3 [if installed it more than once].
O3.BAT has version check commands in place [using getver.exe] to make sure only original Win98SE system files are backed up, and not other newer versions [i.e. from previous option 3 installs], which would defeat the purpose of backing up original files.
For example, if you already installed option 3 in the past, your system files are now WinME builds. Option 3 backup function will not backup/restore WinME files, only Win98SE files.
BTW:
I have double checked [again], and option 3 installs + uninstalls properly on my PC, but I have used original Win98SE CD-ROM files in %windir%\system before I installed option 3.
These are the files installed by option 3 (quoted from READ1ST.TXT):These replace Win98SE files with older builds, normally found in %windir%\system .
Original Win98SE files should be [x means any number, which means you may have different versions installed from different sources, but which will be all backed up/restored by option 3]:

%windir% [usually C:\WINDOWS]:
EXPLORER.EXE 4.72.3xxx.xxx
%windir%\SYSTEM [usually C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]:
COMDLG32.DLL 4.72.3510.2300
DIMM.DLL = not found in Win98SE [therefore not backed up]
DOCPROP.DLL 5.00.1897.1
DOCPROP2.DLL = not found in Win98SE [therefore not backed up]
FONTEXT.DLL 4.10.1704
MYDOCS.DLL 4.72.3xxx.xxxx
NETPLWIZ.DLL = not found in Win98SE [therefore not backed up]
PLUSTAB.DLL 5.00.1528.1
SHELL32.DLL 4.72.3xxx.xxx
SHSCRAP.DLL 4.00.950
IESHWIZ.EXE 4.72.3xxx.x
WEBVW.DLL 5.00.0312.0

HTH

I've actually never used Smartdrv except for when creating custom configuration files in the right click ms-dos shortcut menus for rebooting to MS-DOS Mode. So I have no drivers in my Windows Autoexec.bat or Config.sys files, just the path statements for the Resouce Kit, ATI Control Panel, and the QuickTime Jave files.

The only Smartdrv.exe now on the drive is the one in the Windows\Command folder. Since Windows didn't like it being in the Windows folder I figured I'd leave the one in the Command folder so I could still use Smartdrv in MS-DOS Mode. The one in the Windows folder now is the one renamed to Smartdrv.exe.old.

Prior to the IOS errors, Smartdrv.exe had been listed in the Bootlog as being successfully loaded, even though I never put any calls to it in any configuration files and it wasn't listed anywhere in the Windows startup files in sysedit or msconfig. So I have no idea why it was being loaded. It was not listed in the drivers running in the System Information lists. It seemed to be loading at startup then shutting down.

Following the IOS problem, Smartdrv was no longer listed in the bootlog and still is not there now that I am successfully booting up.

Smartdrv.exe is listed in IOS.INI.

No drives are in MS-DOS Compatibility Mode. The Via drivers are the latest with the exception of the AGP driver which I install manually from the AGP folder from the older 4.43v Via package. Newer versions were designed for XP64 as 32 bit versions of XP have Microsoft's AGP driver. The 98 one's installed in newer versions simply report the card but do not turn on AGP Acceleration or Direct3D Hardware Video Acceleration. 4.43v's version was the last one that doesn't leave me with just PCI Bus speeds.

Device Manager reports the PCI Bus using IRQ Steering properly. System Information tells of Code 9 errors for 2 instances of ACPI IRQ Holder For PCI IRQ Steering, but no errors show up in Device Manager and there are no Ghost Drivers in Safe Mode.

The Bootlog did report the 2 Unknown Devices, but they don't show up in Device Manager or System Information, even in Safe Mode.

I recall that my old motherboard, the Asus A7V880 with the same Via KT880/VT8237 chipsets had one instance of the ACPI IRQ Holders listed as a Problem Device whenever using Windows 98SE. But no unknown devices. 98SE used to run fine on that board, but the last time I had the board in a case it also eventually errored out with the IOS Real Mode Memory error at startup.

At least with the Epox board I get to use the Dos Audio with my Audigy 2 ZS. That, and stability with the 400MHz bus speed with 3200 memory modules was the reason I switched over from the Asus board.

Yet, until now I couldn't get 98SE to stay running because of that darned IOS error. Well, renaming smartdrv fixed it for now.

I still don't know why it did, as I never told Windows to load Smartdrv! Yet there it was in the bootlog (and now it's gone.)

This is the weirdest problem.

Thanks for the information again. I've printed it out so if I need to tangle with the VMM files I'll have the info. My registry looks like it has the right stuff in there. Some mysteries remain, but the system's working.

I'm using WinDoctor from Norton Utilities 2002 to try to keep the registry proper now. I generally don't use these kinds of things but with my recent problems I'm trying some extra precautions. In the old days I did like registry cleaners but for the last couple of years I've noticed that Windows XP doesn't seem to get buggy when I don't mess with it too much.

Apparently 9x does need to be "messed with." I was getting these errors without using any utilities other than Windows ScanDisc and Defrag. Perhaps WinDoctor can help things from getting messed up.

Re: smartdrv

Glad you found a solution that works for you.

Smartdrv cannot load from within Windows nor from a DOS box/session/prompt within Windows.
The only way to load smartdrv is either from config.sys, autoexec.bat or native MS-DOS prompt, before Windows loads.

But if you have one of these lines in your C:\MSDOS.SYS [and/or C:\WINBOOT.INI] under the [Options] section:

DoubleBuffer=1
or
DoubleBuffer=2

you need to change it to read:

DoubleBuffer=0

Then reboot.
This line may try to load/search for smartdrv in %windir% [default location].
If DoubleBuffer=0 IO.SYS stops looking for smartdrv.
Or [like you already did], just move smartdrv.exe away from %windir% , any other directory would do.
Or if do not use [or plan to use] smartdrv at all, just delete all instances [including the one you renamed to *.old] from all your hard drives/partitions.

I'm not experienced with VIA drivers/chipset, never had a VIA mobo.

BTW:
What do you mean by "DOS audio" with your Audigy 2 ZS?
Can you use the Audigy 2 card in native/true/pure/real DOS [outside Windows], or just in DOS boxes/sessions [within Windows]?

HTH

There is a bug in power management in the transition process. The new power management files do not work properly. I usually have two new schemes, one for never to turn off anything and another for to turn off monitor after 1 minute. 1 minute scheme only works if i enable screen saver, and offcourse this changes the monitor turn off to 2 minutes. The process has to be done seperately at each startup. And it still is buggy.

Yes, the Audigy 2 ZS can be made to work with the SBLive/Audigy 1 DOSDRV folder drivers in MS-DOS Mode.

Imagine my surprise when I set it up and it actually worked! I had been frustrated the last couple of years with my 400FSB Socket A boards from both Via and SiS chipsets that didn't allow non-maskable interrupts so the SBEINIT.COM, even though initializing, would not be able to process audio through the hardware.

My Epox EP-8KRAIPRO, I've discovered, does work with it.

The Audigy 2 ZS needs an extra AUDIGY12.EXE (I think it stands for Audigy 1 to 2) line added after SBEINIT.COM. The 2 files I downloaded some time ago from a site that had it will adjust the driver to use the Audigy 2 hardware layout. It's different than the SBLive.

Just add
C:\DOSDRV\AUDIGY12.EXE following the C:\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM line.

Of course, you need the files in the DOSDRV folder. And I changed the Autoexec MAME provides to add D1 H5 P330 T6, and just used the RAM switch after EMM386 in Config.sys, taking out the NOEMS and NOVCPI they had there. I also had to change CTSYN.INI to the HI and LOW DMA settings I put in the Blaster line, as well as changing the zero's to where the Audigy card really was so it was all consistant with my system. I think SBEINIT looks for the card anyway but I figured I'd fill in the correct port.

Notice they also include Smartdrv! Well, I do to if my game uses the cd drive and it has enough conventional memory to include Smartdrv, for others I leave it out. But of course I'll need to direct it to the Windows\Command folder instead.

But the same drivers are used. When I tested it I used the SBLive dos drivers offered on the MAME website. I just added the additional Audigy 2 files to the DOSDRV folder, set up the custom configuration in the MS-DOS shortcut autoexec box, and tried it.

It was a pleasure to see and hear SBEGO's test find the card and play the test music. All the games that worked with the SBLive card also now work with my Audigy 2 ZS.

I'll add the attachment of the Audigy 2 fix. The dos driver is on the MAME website. It's the one from the Audigy 1 retail cd I think, which is just version 5 of the Creative Dos SBLive driver.

Click to view attachment

Changing DoubleBuffer to from 1 to 0 didn't help. I still got the IOS error if I put Smartdrv back in the Windows folder. So I changed it back. I still think this shouldn't be happening. I'm just glad I can keep Windows alive by not having Smartdrv in the Windows folder. It's just...Weird! I thought sure your Doublebuffer suggestion must have been the problem, but no, it's got to be some obscure hidden thing nobody ever could figure out.

For years I ran 98 with Smartdrv in the Windows folder, and of course only using it when in MS-DOS Mode. No problem. Now for some reason it can't stay there. I don't see how it could effect anything if nothing is loading it. And it's not just these newer boards either. I got the same problem on an Intel SE440BX recently.

These computers must sense my presence and decide to throw weird stuff like this on me!

Thanks for sharing that Eck. I am actually looking into buying and installing 3 Audigy/Audigy 2 in my machine for doing "advanced" multichannel audio and this will certainly come handy in the near future.

Three soundcards? You can do that?

I've read that XP works okay with 2, and that 98 can be coaxed into it but is not as 2 card friendly as XP is.

I'm trying to imagine 24 speakers and laughing a lot. I know that's not the point, but that's what went through my mind.

By the way, I don't use the Dos sound driver in Windows. I just set it up in pif's. I figure there's no need to have that stuff running in Windows where it won't be used anyway.

I have never tried it so I can't say if it will work. Asio4All theoretically can handle several souncards and make them available to an application as if there was only one. Of course you need an app that supports that many audio channels.

BTW I have found a SBA2_EAX4DRV_031031.exe in my drivers folder which is apparently Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2/Audigy 2 ZS Soundcard Driver 5.12.05.0441 For Win98SE/ME/2000/XP. Is that no good ?

Well i gave in to the hype this project has gained and installed it. Install went fine, rebooting into win was actually faster (i think) but i have only one big problem: my RASPPPoE connection won't work anymore . I've read the big TXT file describing potential bugs but still i tought won't happen to me but it did. I uninstalled all the protocols, reinstalled them even the NIC card but still to no avail. The raspppoe.exe app that is used to create the dial-up connection to my ISP says it can't find any dial-up adapters exposed by the PPP protocol. I've read some posts about this problem here but seen no real solution to it. Please take note that i don't have a USB modem that is connected to the network adapter, i just use that app to make a connection to connect to the ISP. I just reinstalled windows now but i MIGHT give 98SE2ME a chance again ONLY if a solution to this is available. Thanks in advance.

I'd love to test this RASPPPOE environment and replace whatever files need to be replaced with older Win98SE counterparts, but unfortunately I don't have such a connection, nor do I have access to another computer that does.
Therefore it's up to you and/or other RASPPPOE users to test this.
There is an older post in this 98SE2ME forum:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?s=&showtopi...st&p=327274
in which I explain which files one may want to replace in order to test RASPPPOE.
If you're willing to perform such tests, please post your results here.
Thanks.

Hope this helps.

eidenk,

That is the final driver for 9x for the Audigy 2 ZS. So yes, that IS a good driver. It is the driver installed by the last Creative Insstallation Cd that comes with the newest Audigy 2 ZS Platinum boxes.

They actually had 3 different install cd's that they put into various retail box releases of the Audigy 2 ZS. The last one they made contained that driver so we don't need to run that driver file you have if you already have them on the cd. I happened to wind up with all 3 versions with the 3 cards I bought. The rest of the cd is the same. Only the driver version was updated each time. So if you have any of these you'll still need to run all the software updates from the website downloads if you install that stuff.

For some crazy reason Creative removed all the driver updates for 98SE on the Audigy 2 ZS series. I suspect it was because if a user used CTZAPP to install the driver, instead of just running the update, on a 9x system, and chose to "replace all existing Creative files" when doing so, one would get a botched driver install and a crashing Windows.

You can use CTZAPP with those. Just don't check the box to overwrite existing Creative drivers and software when starting it. A normal Device Manager install does not install all the stuff so either run the setup (ideal) or use CTZAPP if setup won't work.

A way to jog Creative driver installers so it recognizes that you do indeed have a Creative SoundBlaster hardware installed is to remove the 2 question marked (the card and the midi controller) devices from Device Manager and reboot, cancelling out of Windows hardware installer when it detects the devices upon restart. Then just run the setup and it will detect the card and install.

EXCEPT for this stupid file which needs you to CTZAPP.EXE the driver in if you don't have a previous driver installed!

If you don't have an existing driver installed, you MUST extract the file and run CTZAPP or the installer will not run the driver installation. All the files needed ARE in the extracted file, though the install (even with CTZAPP) does not run smoothly without a previous set installed. You'll need to direct Windows for several files it says it cannot find. Most are in either C:\WINDOWS\CATROOT, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CATROOT, the System folder, the System32 or a subfolder it created when starting, driver cache folders, or somewhere in the extracted file you downloaded.

You can see why Creative pulled the download. Although it contains the full set, it really doesn't run smoothly unless it is updating an existing set. However, if you can manage to direct Windows when it asks to all the files it asks for, then it installs properly.

Really crappy software packaging!

Of course you still need the DOSDRV SBLive dos mode drivers (available from the MAME website) and that AUDIGY12 set to run the card in MS-DOS Mode.

That should be enough info for you. Just don't install any newer driver sets. If you can find version 402 of the drivers, those were the original ones and would make the 441, 442 version you've got there install more smoothly by running the setup.

It seems Creative has pulled off it's site ALL drivers for 9x.

http://files.filefront.com/ISO_SB_Audigy_2...;/fileinfo.html

That's a link to the badboy.filefront.com site where the poster from the Creative forums ,badboy, posts the ISO image of the Audigy 2 ZS installation cd.

I tried to find the drivers themselves at driverguide, but saw no Audigy 2 ZS drivers there.

If you can manage to download and burn that ISO, you'll be able to install and then check what version they are. If they are older than 441 then you'll be able to easily run the setup of your 031031 download and have the up to date version for 9x.

Don't update if you ever want to switch to vxd's using the Creative Utility in the Start Menu. That utility installed by the cd is an easy way to go back and forth between the default WDM's and the VXD that is supplied on the cd.

I've never used that as the WDM's are fine. The VXD's DO NOT install the SB16 emulation like the old SBLive cards have for MS-DOS windows within a Windows session.

Nice thing: You'll have the full package. Note that I've got it all installed, but to save resources and avoid CTLOADER freezes on 9x I've placed semi-colons in front of (but within the quotes for the processes that have them) all the Creative processes in Run, Run Services in both the Current User and Local Machine registry sections. Before doing that, I turned off the Remote Control stuff in Media Source Player's Options. Then, as I'm using Norton Utilities 2002, I had WinDoctor ignore the now invalid Startup Items instead of letting it "fix" them by deleting them.

The only difference I notice is I must change the speakers in Windows Multimedia Properties when I switch to headphones. I also place a shortcut to CtPanel.exe in the QuickLaunch Toolbar. This is in Program Files\Creative\SBAudigy2ZS\Program\WDM\Common. That way I've got all the tools without running the resource intensive software.

Can you add another option to 98S2EME that will only install the new update/changes
so that the ones that have 98SE2ME installed already don't have to go thru the whole entire process
again.Thanks and keep up the great work.

This method will also allow us to detect if any should occur such problems.

After installing the new update
Update Information Tool Properties is broken.

Please post more details about what is broken, how did you start this [eventually from Control Panel], how it look like, the exact name of the dialog box(es), error message(s) etc.

Thanks.

When you click Qfecheck.exe
it doesn't expand because there is no tree

Thanks for the details.

I've looked [again] at all registry entries added/deleted/modified by 98SE2ME, and I couldn't find anything that would impair QFECHECK functionality.

Maybe you installed something else [?] around the time you also installed 98SE2ME.

HTH

you right it wasn't 98SE2ME it was a corrupted dll file
SORRY about that.

@ Mdgx:

I must create a new vpatch file [PATFM.EXE] from the Italian winfile.exe, but to do this, I've need your modified version of winfile.exe (with Exescope and MORESTAK.EXE reading READ1ST.TXT).

Give me some indications about changes to make to the italian winfile.exe

Compliments for great work.

Max_04

This is in short what I did [from READ1ST.TXT]:In detail:
Replaced BMP, CUR + ICO files with my own [attached into ZIP at bottom of this post]:

100.BMP
101.BMP
102.BMP
300.CUR
301.CUR
302.CUR
303.CUR
306.CUR
200_16.ICO
200_2.ICO

using exescope:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA003525/emysoft.htm#6

Each file name above starts with the respective number found in winfile.exe resources, which you can see when you open winfile.exe in exescope.
In exescope [example]: Bitmap -> highlight 100 -> click File -> Import... -> browse to 100.BMP -> double-click on it.
Repeat this with all other files listed above, but make sure that filename numbers correspond with winfile.exe resource numbers in exescope.

200_2.ICO = replaces Icon 200 -> 32*32, 2 Color
200_16.ICO = replaces Icon 200 -> 32*32, 16 Color

About MORESTAK:
Forget about it, it's unnecessary, doesn't help in any way. Please see this post for details:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?s=&showtopi...st&p=556609
Consequently, I have removed MORESTAK from my site.
If you want to try it, you can find it here:
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/hs_fr...re/morestak.htm

P.S.:
If you can find another resource editor that works with 16-bit NE (New Executable) files besides exescope, and which supports changing resource file sizes, you may be able to replace the 2 icons above with better 256 colors complex icons [XP style].
If you do, please use WINFILE.ICO, also included in the ZIP attached here, and then please let me know, because I'm looking for such a tool.
This is because the two 16 color icons above [200_16.ICO + 200_2.ICO] are ugly. ;(

I created PATFM.EXE using Vpatch [free(ware)]:
http://www.tibed.net/vpatch/
from modded winfile.exe [target], using WinME setup CD-ROM [English] original winfile.exe as reference [source].

Click to view attachment

HTH

Unfortunately I don't know other resource editor...
Thank you.

You're welcome.
I hope this works for you.

A note for all localizers:

In 02.BAT, the right cab to take RVSEZM.EXE and PINBALL.exe from Win ME CD is WIN_16.CAB.

I've changed this:



with



and



with



@MDGx:

Sound effects and music in pinball.exe there aren't.....
My sound card is Creative Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670 and I have no problem.