MSFN Forums > 98SE2ME = Killer Replacements: ME -> 98 SE

Analada

Apr 29 2007, 12:01 PM

QUOTE (MDGx @ Apr 29 2007, 09:38 AM)

QUOTE (Analada @ Apr 28 2007, 01:43 PM)

Hi, this looks really promising! One question: What do I have to UNinstall first (if anything)?
I already have 98SE2ME done some six months ago or so.

Do I need to uninstall anything from that before doing the new one?

<snip> It is not necessary to uninstall anything, because 98SE2ME is always a full install package, and always performs the same full install which also include all current changes/updates [in this case the only changes are installing WinME SIGVERIF.EXE renamed file, WinME SIGVERIF.HLP + 2 shortcuts].
Just run the current 98SE2ME.EXE 4-28-2007edition, as usual [3 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4
and install option 1 or 2.
That's it.

This will copy SIGVERIF.EXE from WinME CABs to %windir% as SIGVRFME.EXE, in order to keep Win98 SE SIGVERIF.EXE .
After reboot, you can run either 1 of these tools from their shortcuts:

QUOTE

How to use both File Signature Verification Tools:
Start button -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> run 1 of these shortcuts:
- "File Signature Verification Tool (Windows ME)"
- "File Signature Verification Tool (Windows 98 SE)"

... excerpt from UPDATES.TXT [4-28-2007 update]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/UPDATES.TXT

HTH

First and foremost, many thanks for this great program.

Feedback: Couple of things.

(1) Installing 98SE2ME again broke the NUSB. OK, you kind of mention that in the readme, but would it be possible to prompt the user during the install to first uninstall NUSB and make sure it's around to install afterwards?

(2) I play FLV files using Media Player Classic. The procedure to do so involves installing FFD Show and configuring the player. (See http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/ho..._flv_files.cfm). I had done this procedure subsequent to when 98SE2ME was first installed. Just a few minutes ago I installed 98SE2ME again and Media Player Classic is now broke for playing FLV files.

I use Ghost 2003 and ghosted back to restore things as they were.

bizzybody

Apr 29 2007, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (MDGx @ Apr 24 2007, 03:15 AM)

98MP10 [I assumed that's the 1 you are referring to: "XP SP2 stuff"] is an unofficial WMP9 update to WMP10.

Nope. This was from before anyone got MP10 onto 98SSE. Here's a batch file I picked up off the forum, I also found the exe2cab program somewhere. Just never have got a round-tuit to do anything with this.

CODE

@echo off
rem i have use exe2cab.exe to convert WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe to                    rem WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.cab
rem i have renamed WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.cab to winxpsp2.cab for ease.
rem if u like to extract all files from WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
rem u can use WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe /x it will extract all files
rem to current directory

extract winxpsp2.cab ADVPACK.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab BROWSELC.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSHTMLED.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSHTMLER.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSXML.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSXML2.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab PNGFILT.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab SHDOCLC.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab SQLSRV32.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab USP10.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab ASCTRLS.OC_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSHTML.TL_
extract winxpsp2.cab EXTRAC32.EX_
extract winxpsp2.cab L3CODECA.AC_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMV8DS32.AX_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMVDS32.AX_
extract winxpsp2.cab ASFERROR.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab BLACKBOX.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab DRMCLIEN.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab DRMSTOR.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab DRMV2CLT.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab LAPRXY.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MP43DMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MP4SDMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MPG4DMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MPVIS.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSNETOBJ.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSPMSP.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSSCP.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab MSWMDM.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab NPDRMV2.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab NPDSPLAY.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab NPWMSDRM.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab QASF.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMADMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMADMOE.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMASF.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMDMLOG.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMDMPS.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMERROR.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMIDX.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMNETMGR.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMP.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPASF.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPBAND.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPCD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPCORE.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPDXM.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPLOC.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPNS.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPSHELL.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPUI.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSDMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSDMOE.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSDMOE2.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSPDMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSPDMOE.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMSTREAM.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMVCORE.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMVDMOD.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMVDMOE2.DL_
extract winxpsp2.cab LOGAGENT.EX_
extract winxpsp2.cab MPLAYER2.EX_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMPLAYER.EX_
extract winxpsp2.cab WMP.OC_

rem because it bydefault extract file in i386 folder

cd i386

EXPAND ADVPACK.DL_ ADVPACK.DLL
EXPAND BROWSELC.DL_ BROWSELC.DLL
EXPAND MSHTMLED.DL_ MSHTMLED.DLL
EXPAND MSHTMLER.DL_ MSHTMLER.DLL
EXPAND MSXML.DL_ MSXML.DLL
EXPAND MSXML2.DL_ MSXML2.DLL
EXPAND PNGFILT.DL_ PNGFILT.DLL
EXPAND SHDOCLC.DL_ SHDOCLC.DLL
EXPAND SQLSRV32.DL_ SQLSRV32.DLL
EXPAND USP10.DL_ USP10.DLL
EXPAND ASCTRLS.OC_ ASCTRLS.OCX
EXPAND MSHTML.TL_ MSHTML.TLB
EXPAND EXTRAC32.EX_ EXTRAC32.EXE
EXPAND L3CODECA.AC_ L3CODECA.ACM
EXPAND WMV8DS32.AX_ WMV8DS32.AX
EXPAND WMVDS32.AX_ WMVDS32.AX
EXPAND ASFERROR.DL_ ASFERROR.DLL
EXPAND BLACKBOX.DL_ BLACKBOX.DLL
EXPAND DRMCLIEN.DL_ DRMCLIEN.DLL
EXPAND DRMSTOR.DL_ DRMSTOR.DLL
EXPAND DRMV2CLT.DL_ DRMV2CLT.DLL
EXPAND LAPRXY.DL_ LAPRXY.DLL
EXPAND MP43DMOD.DL_ MP43DMOD.DLL
EXPAND MP4SDMOD.DL_ MP4SDMOD.DLL
EXPAND MPG4DMOD.DL_ MPG4DMOD.DLL
EXPAND MPVIS.DL_ MPVIS.DLL
EXPAND MSNETOBJ.DL_ MSNETOBJ.DLL
EXPAND MSPMSP.DL_ MSPMSP.DLL
EXPAND MSSCP.DL_ MSSCP.DLL
EXPAND MSWMDM.DL_ MSWMDM.DLL
EXPAND NPDRMV2.DL_ NPDRMV2.DLL
EXPAND NPDSPLAY.DL_ NPDSPLAY.DLL
EXPAND NPWMSDRM.DL_ NPWMSDRM.DLL
EXPAND QASF.DL_ QASF.DLL
EXPAND WMADMOD.DL_ WMADMOD.DLL
EXPAND WMADMOE.DL_ WMADMOE.DLL
EXPAND WMASF.DL_ WMASF.DLL
EXPAND WMDMLOG.DL_ WMDMLOG.DLL
EXPAND WMDMPS.DL_ WMDMPS.DLL
EXPAND WMERROR.DL_ WMERROR.DLL
EXPAND WMIDX.DL_ WMIDX.DLL
EXPAND WMNETMGR.DL_ WMNETMGR.DLL
EXPAND WMP.DL_ WMP.DLL
EXPAND WMPASF.DL_ WMPASF.DLL
EXPAND WMPBAND.DL_ WMPBAND.DLL
EXPAND WMPCD.DL_ WMPCD.DLL
EXPAND WMPCORE.DL_ WMPCORE.DLL
EXPAND WMPDXM.DL_ WMPDXM.DLL
EXPAND WMPLOC.DL_ WMPLOC.DLL
EXPAND WMPNS.DL_ WMPNS.DLL
EXPAND WMPSHELL.DL_ WMPSHELL.DLL
EXPAND WMPUI.DL_ WMPUI.DLL
EXPAND WMSDMOD.DL_ WMSDMOD.DLL
EXPAND WMSDMOE.DL_ WMSDMOE.DLL
EXPAND WMSDMOE2.DL_ WMSDMOE2.DLL
EXPAND WMSPDMOD.DL_ WMSPDMOD.DLL
EXPAND WMSPDMOE.DL_ WMSPDMOE.DLL
EXPAND WMSTREAM.DL_ WMSTREAM.DLL
EXPAND WMVCORE.DL_ WMVCORE.DLL
EXPAND WMVDMOD.DL_ WMVDMOD.DLL
EXPAND WMVDMOE2.DL_ WMVDMOE2.DLL
EXPAND LOGAGENT.EX_ LOGAGENT.EXE
EXPAND MPLAYER2.EX_ MPLAYER2.EXE
EXPAND WMPLAYER.EX_ WMPLAYER.EXE
EXPAND WMP.OC_ WMP.OCX

cls

copy ADVPACK.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy BROWSELC.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSHTMLED.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSHTMLER.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSXML.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSXML2.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy PNGFILT.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy SHDOCLC.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy SQLSRV32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy USP10.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy ASCTRLS.OCX C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSHTML.TLB    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy EXTRAC32.EXE C:\WINDOWS
copy L3CODECA.ACM C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMV8DS32.AX C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMVDS32.AX C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy ASFERROR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy BLACKBOX.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy DRMCLIEN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy DRMSTOR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy DRMV2CLT.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy LAPRXY.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MP43DMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MP4SDMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MPG4DMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MPVIS.DLL C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy MSNETOBJ.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSPMSP.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSSCP.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MSWMDM.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy NPDRMV2.DLL C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy NPDSPLAY.DLL C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy NPWMSDRM.DLL C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy QASF.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMADMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMADMOE.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMASF.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMDMLOG.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMDMPS.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMERROR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMIDX.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMNETMGR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMP.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPASF.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPBAND.DLL C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy WMPCD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPCORE.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPDXM.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPLOC.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPNS.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPSHELL.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMPUI.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSDMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSDMOE.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSDMOE2.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSPDMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSPDMOE.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMSTREAM.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMVCORE.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMVDMOD.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy WMVDMOE2.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy LOGAGENT.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
copy MPLAYER2.EXE C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy WMPLAYER.EXE C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
copy WMP.OCX C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM

@ECHO OFF
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSHTMLED.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSXML.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSXML2.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\PNGFILT.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\ASCTRLS.OCX
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\L3CODECA.ACM
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMV8DS32.AX
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMVDS32.AX
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\LAPRXY.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MP43DMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MP4SDMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MPG4DMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSNETOBJ.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSPMSP.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSSCP.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\MSWMDM.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\QASF.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMADMOE.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMDMLOG.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMDMPS.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMNETMGR.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMP.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPASF.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPCD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPCORE.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPDXM.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPSHELL.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMPUI.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSDMOE.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSDMOE2.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSPDMOE.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSTREAM.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMVCORE.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMVDMOE2.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMP.OCX
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSDMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMSPDMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\WMVDMOD.DLL
REGSVR32 /S WMPBAND.DLL /ShowWMP /SetShowState
%windir%\INF\UNREGMP2 /UpdateWMP

CLS
EXIT

Max_04

Apr 30 2007, 05:19 AM

1) Excuse me, but there are advantages using WIN ME SIGVERIF.EXE than WIN 98 SE SIGVERIF.EXE?

2) I want to report a problem installing win 98 se drivers of a printer HP710c ONLY AFTER installing option 2 of 98se2me.
It is impossible to install these drivers because doesn't recognize LPT port.
The problem can be solved removing/reinstalling drivers (doesn't work always).

What could be for you?

MDGx

Apr 30 2007, 07:08 AM

QUOTE (bizzybody @ Apr 29 2007, 10:49 PM)

QUOTE (MDGx @ Apr 24 2007, 03:15 AM)

98MP10 [I assumed that's the 1 you are referring to: "XP SP2 stuff"] is an unofficial WMP9 update to WMP10.

Nope. This was from before anyone got MP10 onto 98SSE. Here's a batch file I picked up off the forum, I also found the exe2cab program somewhere. Just never have got a round-tuit to do anything with this.

I've also seen that batch a long time ago.
At that time I was working on my own MP10 -> 98/ME project with the help from erpdude8 [also an MSFN member], roughly similar to the batch you found.
I have posted a working version a while after that at my site and here, and I thought that was the only working version, besides the batch file you mentioned, which only extracts and copies the files from XP SP2.
If you ever looked at the 98MP10 INF file, you would have noticed that there is much more to it, just copying the files and running regsvr32 won't make it work properly.
In comparison, 98MP10 is pretty much a "mature" release, tested in the wild, and works in most cases, except a for few portable multimedia devices that I can't test on my PC.
I'm using 98MP10 for ~ 3 years now, and never ran into any problems.

To extract 98MP10.INF from 98MP10.EXE, download 98MP10.EXE [7.5 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/98mp10/98MP10.EXE
Then run [example]:
98MP10.EXE /C /Q /T:C:\TEMP
Then open 98MP10.INF into Notepad to view its contents.
... Or download this small zip...
Click to view attachment
HTH

MDGx

Apr 30 2007, 07:14 AM

QUOTE (Max_04 @ Apr 30 2007, 05:19 AM)

1) Excuse me, but there are advantages using WIN ME SIGVERIF.EXE than WIN 98 SE SIGVERIF.EXE?

2) I want to report a problem installing win 98 se drivers of a printer HP710c ONLY AFTER installing option 2 of 98se2me.
It is impossible to install these drivers because doesn't recognize LPT port.
The problem can be solved removing/reinstalling drivers (doesn't work always).

What could be for you?

1) WinME sigverif probably has newer code to recognize more digital signatures for newer files/drivers released after Win98 SE came out. [?]
Can't hurt to have both, I like having more than 1 choice.

2) Sorry, I can't test this printer driver on my PC, I don' t have such printer.
Can you elaborate, please, what exactly happens, step by step, eventual error messages, dialog boxes, IPF, GPF, lockups etc?

HTH

MDGx

Apr 30 2007, 07:38 AM

QUOTE (Analada @ Apr 29 2007, 12:01 PM)

(1) Installing 98SE2ME again broke the NUSB. OK, you kind of mention that in the readme, but would it be possible to prompt the user during the install to first uninstall NUSB and make sure it's around to install afterwards?

(2) I play FLV files using Media Player Classic. The procedure to do so involves installing FFD Show and configuring the player. (See http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/ho..._flv_files.cfm). I had done this procedure subsequent to when 98SE2ME was first installed. Just a few minutes ago I installed 98SE2ME again and Media Player Classic is now broke for playing FLV files.

I use Ghost 2003 and ghosted back to restore things as they were.

(1) I have added a note about NUSB in READ1ST.TXT, closer to the top, under the "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT" section:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

QUOTE

* MUST install Native USB Drivers (NUSB) current edition:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#NUS
ONLY AFTER already installed 98SE2ME options 1, 2 or 7!
IF already installed NUSB BEFORE 98SE2ME options 1, 2 or 7, MUST reinstall
NUSB once again, AFTER 98SE2ME options 1, 2 or 7!

(2) I assume you are refering to 98SE2ME options 1 or 2.
I've installed FFDshow a few times in the past, bur never noticed any problems, but never tried to set MPC to play FLV files.
I use Riva FLV Player [freeware] to play FLV files:
http://www.rivavx.com/index.php?id=422&L=3
Download it from:
http://www.download.com/3001-2194_4-10442977.html
Riva FLV Player has its own FLV codec, doesn't need FFDshow or any other external codec.
More FLV tools [scroll down to "How to play Flash Video (.FLV)."]:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#SHFL

FYI:
The couple of times I've tried to set MPC to play SWF, DCR + DIR files [Flash + Shockwave offline], I've got errors/glitches, because MPC doesn't have web browser capabilities to play SWF files properly.
So I had to set SWF + DCR/DIR to be played by Firefox [MS IE is also a good choice].

Sometime in the near future I'll test FFDshow with MPC playing FLV, to see if I get any errors related to installing 98SE2ME option 2.

HTH

Max_04

Apr 30 2007, 07:42 AM

QUOTE (MDGx @ Apr 30 2007, 03:14 PM)

QUOTE (Max_04 @ Apr 30 2007, 05:19 AM)

1) Excuse me, but there are advantages using WIN ME SIGVERIF.EXE than WIN 98 SE SIGVERIF.EXE?

2) I want to report a problem installing win 98 se drivers of a printer HP710c ONLY AFTER installing option 2 of 98se2me.
It is impossible to install these drivers because doesn't recognize LPT port.
The problem can be solved removing/reinstalling drivers (doesn't work always).

What could be for you?

1) WinME sigverif probably has newer code to recognize more digital signatures for newer files/drivers released after Win98 SE came out. [?]
Can't hurt to have both, I like having more than 1 choice.

2) Sorry, I can't test this printer driver on my PC, I don' t have such printer.
Can you elaborate, please, what exactly happens, step by step, eventual error messages, dialog boxes, IPF, GPF, lockups etc?

HTH

Ok... can you post me a list of possible suspected files concerning printer drivers?
The printer has usb support.

MDGx

May 2 2007, 10:53 AM

QUOTE (Max_04 @ Apr 30 2007, 07:42 AM)

Ok... can you post me a list of possible suspected files concerning printer drivers?
The printer has usb support.

I don't have a USB printer, therefore I can't tell which files are used.
But you can do this on your computer if your printer is properly installed:
right-click "My Computer" desktop icon -> Properties -> Device Manager tab -> scroll down to your printer name, which is usually listed under "Printer" -> double-click on your printer name -> Driver tab -> "Driver file details" button -> post here all file names you see.

BTW:
I still need you to post here any errors/dialogs/GPF/IPF/etc you've seen etc.

Thanks.

PROBLEMCHYLD

May 2 2007, 10:57 AM

Are you going to remove User*.* files from 98SE2ME because
Q891711 + U891711 = Unofficial MS07-017 + MS05-002 .ANI fix has permanent fix?

Max_04

May 2 2007, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (MDGx @ May 2 2007, 06:53 PM)

QUOTE (Max_04 @ Apr 30 2007, 07:42 AM)

Ok... can you post me a list of possible suspected files concerning printer drivers?
The printer has usb support.

I don't have a USB printer, therefore I can't tell which files are used.
But you can do this on your computer if your printer is properly installed:
right-click "My Computer" desktop icon -> Properties -> Device Manager tab -> scroll down to your printer name, which is usually listed under "Printer" -> double-click on your printer name -> Driver tab -> "Driver file details" button -> post here all file names you see.

BTW:
I still need you to post here any errors/dialogs/GPF/IPF/etc you've seen etc.

Thanks.

I can give you a detailed description of errors/dialogs.

The problem begins only after installation of 98seME.
Printer HP710C with LPT port (no USB, excuse me) not recognized!

START -> Settings-> Printers -> Add printers ->
I select Local Printer -> Driver Disk , and the problem is here.
Win98SE, after found correct .INF file, says, to the next dialog, that doesn't exist a LPT port
and if driver installation is started, says: "It isn't possible to terminate installation. Driver corrupted or damaged".
If I try driver installation from CD-ROM or Floppy (both absolutely original provided from HP), the computer, after reboot, is blocked.
For the restart it is necessary to reset.

Error messages, naturally are in italian, infact I've just translated here in english.

Later I'll follow your indications about entries in driver options.

PROBLEMCHYLD

May 3 2007, 06:49 PM

?

PROBLEMCHYLD

May 8 2007, 11:42 AM

i was surfing your site and i notice this
MSJPEG32.DLL installs from GRPHFLTS.EXE same version 98SE2ME
and will NETAPI32.DLL be added?

Max_04

May 9 2007, 08:02 AM

QUOTE (Max_04 @ May 2 2007, 07:22 PM)

QUOTE (MDGx @ May 2 2007, 06:53 PM)

QUOTE (Max_04 @ Apr 30 2007, 07:42 AM)

Ok... can you post me a list of possible suspected files concerning printer drivers?
The printer has usb support.

I don't have a USB printer, therefore I can't tell which files are used.
But you can do this on your computer if your printer is properly installed:
right-click "My Computer" desktop icon -> Properties -> Device Manager tab -> scroll down to your printer name, which is usually listed under "Printer" -> double-click on your printer name -> Driver tab -> "Driver file details" button -> post here all file names you see.

BTW:
I still need you to post here any errors/dialogs/GPF/IPF/etc you've seen etc.

Thanks.

I can give you a detailed description of errors/dialogs.

The problem begins only after installation of 98seME.
Printer HP710C with LPT port (no USB, excuse me) not recognized!

START -> Settings-> Printers -> Add printers ->
I select Local Printer -> Driver Disk , and the problem is here.
Win98SE, after found correct .INF file, says, to the next dialog, that doesn't exist a LPT port
and if driver installation is started, says: "It isn't possible to terminate installation. Driver corrupted or damaged".
If I try driver installation from CD-ROM or Floppy (both absolutely original provided from HP), the computer, after reboot, is blocked.
For the restart it is necessary to reset.

Error messages, naturally are in italian, infact I've just translated here in english.

Later I'll follow your indications about entries in driver options.

At the end I've discovered that this is a bug of some hp printers.

A solution is :

1) replace Spool32.exe with the original;
2) remove checkbox on Win.ini file in msconfig, so during reboot Win.ini can reload printer.

Thank you again for your work, MDGx!

PROBLEMCHYLD

May 11 2007, 12:02 PM

Small request, files like msconfig.exe which is backed up and replaced with meconfig.exe
Sigverif.exe etc... (Don't wanna delete manually file by file) can you make a script to delete those by choice because i don't want to have duplicate files on my system especially if i don't have a need for them.
This should apply to all files that are duplicates of others.
If theres a need to replace them i will until then i don't have any problems with them.
It can be called the Clean up option 8
A big thank U

PROBLEMCHYLD

May 17 2007, 12:06 PM

How do i install Windows Picture and Fax viewer from my WinME CD on
Windows 98SE I wanna test it with the KernelEx update.

Sofhia

May 21 2007, 08:44 AM

i dont know if this is the right place to ask my question..

so heres my question.. ive used this software..

and i choose OPTION 1 then OPTION 3

now i uninstall OPTION 3 but i want some features of that OPTION 3 has..

like the system tray.. can i used that system tray in the OPTION 3 without installing OPTION 3 how?

coz ive been experiencing some problems with OPTION 3.. like kenel32.dll errors? user.dll? like that..

hope someone answers my question.. thanks

MDGx

May 24 2007, 06:12 AM

QUOTE (Sofhia @ May 21 2007, 08:44 AM)

and i choose OPTION 1 then OPTION 3

now i uninstall OPTION 3 but i want some features of that OPTION 3 has..

like the system tray.. can i used that system tray in the OPTION 3 without installing OPTION 3 how?

coz ive been experiencing some problems with OPTION 3.. like kenel32.dll errors? user.dll? like that..

hope someone answers my question.. thanks

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback.

The files installed by 98SE2ME option 3 must be installed together or not at all, because of interdependencies.
Please see READ1ST.TXT for details [see "* Option 3:" under the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" chapter]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

If you have experienced problems with option 3, please uninstall it as instructed in READ1ST.TXT [see "* Option 3:" under the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" chapter]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

To my knowledge, I haven't heard of problems with files installed by 98SE2ME option 3.
Is there a chance you're using other programs/updates/patches that give you those errors?

HTH [Hope This Helps]

steamshooter

Jun 1 2007, 12:24 PM

I apoligize for putting this in the wrong place before.

After @a year with XP I decided to come back to 98. It's nice to see this place is still just as active as ever.

I have my ME on a HP "rescue" two disc set. The only way I could access the files needed was to install ME on the HP compputer on a spare hard drive. Now I want to use the extra hard drive for something else.( test bed for unattended install) I want to copy ONLY the files needed for the 98SE2ME installation onto a cd.

Do I need ALL the .cab files or just these:

"* Windows Millennium Edition (ME) setup CD-ROM OR *.CAB files:
ALL these CABs MUST be ANYWHERE on your local disk(s)/partition(s) into the
SAME directory/folder:
BASE2.CAB
CATALOG.CAB
DRIVER5.CAB
DRIVER6.CAB
DRIVER7.CAB
MINI.CAB
NET3.CAB
NET4.CAB
PRECOPY1.CAB
WIN_10.CAB
WIN_11.CAB
WIN_12.CAB
WIN_13.CAB
WIN_14.CAB
WIN_15.CAB
WIN_16.CAB
WIN_17.CAB
WIN_18.CAB
WIN_19.CAB
WIN_20.CAB
WIN_21.CAB
WIN_22.CAB
WIN_8.CAB
WIN_9.CAB"

What I would like to do is to put the .cab files on a cd along with the 98SE2ME file.

Would they be recognized in the cd-rom this way?

Thanks for all your help
Brad

submix8c

Jun 2 2007, 09:26 AM

MDGx

:

What am I doing wrong? The ".CHM" (help file) does not download correctly, i.e. it comes up as an HTML. Even if I use "view source"/"save as:" it is still bad. Is this due to the conversion from HTML (at MaxSpeed site) to CHM format?

@steamshooter: I would recommend burning the whole "OPTIONS" folder just so you won't have to reload again. And since this is not my Topic, I'm sure MDGx will eventually answer your primary question.

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 09:19 AM

QUOTE (PROBLEMCHYLD @ May 17 2007, 12:06 PM)

How do i install Windows Picture and Fax viewer from my WinME CD on
Windows 98SE I wanna test it with the KernelEx update.

I'm assuming you're talking about the Fax tools.
Fax tools are installed "normally", by running their executables, as explained here:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#F95T

There is no need to use KernelEx for ME Fax tools, just run them, they should work ok with any Windows 9x/ME edition.
ME Fax tools are compatible with all 9x/ME OSes, KernelEx was designed to make NTx OS apps/tools/games compatible with 9x/ME OSes.

BTW:
To my knowledge there are no Fax tools on the WinME CD-ROM [please see URL above for details].

HTH

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 09:20 AM

QUOTE (PROBLEMCHYLD @ May 11 2007, 12:02 PM)

Small request, files like msconfig.exe which is backed up and replaced with meconfig.exe
Sigverif.exe etc... (Don't wanna delete manually file by file) can you make a script to delete those by choice because i don't want to have duplicate files on my system especially if i don't have a need for them.
This should apply to all files that are duplicates of others.
If theres a need to replace them i will until then i don't have any problems with them.
It can be called the Clean up option 8
A big thank U

I'll think about it.

Thanks for your feedback.

Randy_Rivers

Jun 7 2007, 09:40 AM

hi mgdx .Question:I installed the 98SE2ME option 2 -700newer me files.so in the future if i install new hardware ,video card etc do i use a 98se or Me driver?

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 10:24 AM

QUOTE (Max_04 @ May 9 2007, 08:02 AM)

At the end I've discovered that this is a bug of some hp printers.

A solution is :

1) replace Spool32.exe with the original;
2) remove checkbox on Win.ini file in msconfig, so during reboot Win.ini can reload printer.

I have added a new topic in READ1ST.TXT under the "KNOWN BUGS + FIXES" chapter:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

QUOTE

* BUG:
Some Hewlett-Packard (HP) printers do NOT work properly with WinME SPOOL32.EXE
4.90.3000 installed into %windir%\SYSTEM [%windir% = usually C:\WINDOWS] by
98SE2ME options 1 or 2.
FIX:
In such case:
1. Replace WinME SPOOL32.EXE with Win98 SE SPOOL32.EXE 4.10.1998 from Win98 SE
setup CD-ROM:
A. Make sure the SPOOL32 printer process is not loaded in memory.
To do this, download, install and run CoolKill [797 KB, freeware]:
http://www.prowebsitemanagement.com/downloads/coolkill.zip
Then right-click the CoolKill icon in the Tray -> select Kill -> left-click
%windir%\SYSTEM\SPOOL32.EXE (if present).
B. Now make sure your Win98 SE setup CD-ROM is inside your 1st CD/DVD drive
(if more than 1) or that you have Win98 SE setup CABs somewhere on your hard
drive(s)/partition(s), and then run this command from a DOS box (example):
EXTRACT/Y D:\WIN98\WIN98_46.CAB SPOOL32.EXE %windir%\SYSTEM
where D is your CD/DVD drive letter [make sure it matches your actual drive
letter].
C. Restart Windows.
OR:
2. Start button -> Run... box -> type:
MSCONFIG
press Enter -> remove the check box next to WIN.INI -> Apply/OK -> reboot.
This way the HP printer driver will be reloaded during reboot from within
%windir%\WIN.INI [%windir% = usually C:\WINDOWS]. [thank you Max_04]

HTH

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 10:28 AM

QUOTE (Randy_Rivers @ Jun 7 2007, 09:40 AM)

hi mgdx .Question:I installed the 98SE2ME option 2 -700newer me files.so in the future if i install new hardware ,video card etc do i use a 98se or Me driver?

Your question is answered in 98SE2ME READ1ST.TXT, under the "FAQ" chapter:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

QUOTE

* Windows 98 SE OS build/edition/release/revision/version does NOT change no
matter which NOR how many (hot)fixes/patches/updates/service packs/etc you
install, including SP2, 98SE2ME, 98MP10, NUSB, MDCU, WUPG, RP, KernelEx etc.
That is because Windows 98 SE specific core system files like KERNEL32.DLL,
KRNL386.EXE, COMMAND.COM or IO.SYS canNOT and should NOT be replaced with
Windows ME counterparts. If you do replace any of them, your OS will lock up.
Please see the list of Win98 SE system files that should NEVER be replaced:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#NEVER
Therefore when installing MS Windows Updates from WU:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
WUC:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/
Corporate Updates:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp
and/or official/unofficial MS (security) patches/(hot)fixes:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm
http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm
http://www.mdgx.com/dx.htm
you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY system files created
specifically for Windows 98 SE, and MOST ALL OTHERS (except certain hardware
drivers designed for all Windows 95/98/ME releases) will probably be rejected.

HTH [Hope This Helps]

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 10:40 AM

QUOTE (submix8c @ Jun 2 2007, 09:26 AM)

MDGx

What am I doing wrong? The ".CHM" (help file) does not download correctly, i.e. it comes up as an HTML. Even if I use "view source"/"save as:" it is still bad. Is this due to the conversion from HTML (at MaxSpeed site) to CHM format?

Actually I just noticed that too.

Using IE 6.0 SP1:
- left-click = hex code downloads in the browser window.
- right-click -> Save = saves only as HTM file.
All other browsers I've used [Netscape, Mozilla, Seamonkey, Firefox + Opera] save the file correctly.

I've also tried to tweak this by modifying the server .htaccess settings, without success.

So I've created a self-extracting executable instead [152 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/982MECHM.EXE
This installs 98SE2ME.CHM into C:\9!M [default folder, where 98SE2ME is always installed] and a shortcut to it [98SE2ME HTML Help Guide + Manual] in Start -> Programs -> 98SE2ME folder [same as if it was installed by 98SE2ME.EXE].

Andf now if any1 tries to download the CHM file directly:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/98SE2ME.CHM
will be redirected to the EXE file instead.

Please try it out.

HTH

MDGx

Jun 7 2007, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (steamshooter @ Jun 1 2007, 12:24 PM)

I have my ME on a HP "rescue" two disc set. The only way I could access the files needed was to install ME on the HP compputer on a spare hard drive. Now I want to use the extra hard drive for something else.( test bed for unattended install) I want to copy ONLY the files needed for the 98SE2ME installation onto a cd.

Do I need ALL the .cab files or just these:

"* Windows Millennium Edition (ME) setup CD-ROM OR *.CAB files:
ALL these CABs MUST be ANYWHERE on your local disk(s)/partition(s) into the
SAME directory/folder:
BASE2.CAB
CATALOG.CAB
DRIVER5.CAB
DRIVER6.CAB
DRIVER7.CAB
MINI.CAB
NET3.CAB
NET4.CAB
PRECOPY1.CAB
WIN_10.CAB
WIN_11.CAB
WIN_12.CAB
WIN_13.CAB
WIN_14.CAB
WIN_15.CAB
WIN_16.CAB
WIN_17.CAB
WIN_18.CAB
WIN_19.CAB
WIN_20.CAB
WIN_21.CAB
WIN_22.CAB
WIN_8.CAB
WIN_9.CAB"

What I would like to do is to put the .cab files on a cd along with the 98SE2ME file.

Would they be recognized in the cd-rom this way?

Thanks for all your help
Brad

Brad,

To install only 98SE2ME, you need *only* the CABs listed above, all into the *same* folder [see READ1ST.TXT, under the "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT" chapter]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

All CABs needed by the 98SE2ME install routine are recognized/found no matter where they are located, as long as that particular drive/partition is properly installed and recognized by your computer.
This is detailed in READ1ST.TXT under the "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT" chapter:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

QUOTE

OR ALL these *.CAB files MUST be ANYWHERE on your local disk(s)/partition(s)
into the SAME directory/folder:
...

On the other hand, to (re)install WinME OS, you need *all* WinME CABs from the WinME setup CD-ROM, from the D:\WIN9X folder [D: here is the CD/DVD letter, change if necessary].
Or you can copy all CABs from the WIN9X folder on the CD to a directory on your hard disk.
Usually this is %windir%\OPTIONS\CABS [where %windir% is most of the time C:\WINDOWS].
%windir%\OPTIONS\CABS = used by OEMs/VARs/manufacturers/vendors to install 9x/ME OSes on customers' PCs.

HTH [Hope This Helps]

steamshooter

Jun 8 2007, 05:23 AM

Thanks MDGx. I thought so, but, I wanted to make sure before I formated the hard drive with Win ME on it. (too much hassel to get it back)

Now, on to trying to make my un-attended cd

Keep up the great job

Brad

PROBLEMCHYLD

Jun 8 2007, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (MDGx @ Jun 7 2007, 10:19 AM)

There is no need to use KernelEx for ME Fax tools, just run them, they should work ok with any Windows 9x/ME edition.
ME Fax tools are compatible with all 9x/ME OSes, KernelEx was designed to make NTx OS apps/tools/games compatible with 9x/ME OSes.

BTW:
To my knowledge there are no Fax tools on the WinME CD-ROM [please see URL above for details].

HTH

This is what i was talking about
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272969

MDGx

Jun 14 2007, 04:28 AM

QUOTE (PROBLEMCHYLD @ Jun 8 2007, 06:31 PM)

This is what i was talking about
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272969

Actually, I've tried this sometime in the past, and screwed up pic [gif, jpg] file associations pretty badly.

So I've removed shimgvw.dll from all 98SE2ME options.

Details in UPDATES.TXT:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php
Just open UPDATES.TXT in Notepad and do a search for shimgvw.dll .

HTH

PROBLEMCHYLD

Jun 20 2007, 07:10 PM

Heres what i would like my windows start menu banner to look like
can someone polsish it up for me please

bristols

Jun 23 2007, 12:39 PM

MDGX,

Could you please spell out the options available to someone who has installed 98SE2ME (with Option 2/the system files) and who wants to update GDI32.DLL and GDI.EXE to the latest available version (e.g., 4.90.3003, as found in the latest 918547 unofficial hotfix for ME)? Can these files be safely replaced by hand/DOS? I ask this in the light of the "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT" message in 918547.txt about the need for a reboot.

Also, am I right in thinking that to be protected from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, I must keep the temporary fix version (U891711, with the running KB891711 process) because there's no unofficial update for the ME versions of USER32.DLL and USER.EXE (which I have as a result of using Option 2 in 98SE2ME)?

TIA.

myelin

Jun 28 2007, 12:24 PM

Hello, i wanted to know that whether this project adds some new features to MS Paint, like saving as Gif or Jpeg. Thanks for any replies.

dencorso

Jun 29 2007, 01:23 AM

Dear MDGx:
I do appreciate your 98SE2ME a lot.
But the modded SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001 included in it, besides saying "Microsoft Windows 98 Second
Edition", instead of "Microsoft Windows ME", suppresses the display of the version info to avoid the
old "4.90.3000 A" version mistake from appearing. But there it remains...
So I decided to try my hand at it and modded once again the SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001, which I got from
ME280800.EXE, for it to say "Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition", but did not suppress the version
info display. All I accomplished up to this point was to get the "4.90.3000 A" version apearing once more...
But, it turns out that SYSDM.CPL gets its version info from inside USER.EXE (of which I use 4.90.3001,
of course!). In fact, the ASCII string "4.90.3000" can be found inside it exactly three times. The last one
is part of the version info resource, so I let that one alone and hexedited the other two to be "4.10.2222",
and, bingo!, now SYSDM.CPL shows the windows version correctly as "4.10.2222 A". I have been using
these two modded files on my system for over a fortnight now, and have detected no adverse effects
from the above described mods. So I feel confident they are safe. Hence I decided to post here about
my modded files, in case you, or any other member of the forum, find them interesting.
They can be uploaded at http://rapidshare.com/files/39988442/Nu_Mod.zip
Keep on the great work!

MDGx

Jul 2 2007, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (dencorso @ Jun 29 2007, 01:23 AM)

... the modded SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001 included in it, besides saying "Microsoft Windows 98 Second
Edition", instead of "Microsoft Windows ME", suppresses the display of the version info to avoid the
old "4.90.3000 A" version mistake from appearing. But there it remains...
So I decided to try my hand at it and modded once again the SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001, which I got from
ME280800.EXE, for it to say "Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition", but did not suppress the version
info display. All I accomplished up to this point was to get the "4.90.3000 A" version apearing once more...
But, it turns out that SYSDM.CPL gets its version info from inside USER.EXE (of which I use 4.90.3001,
of course!). In fact, the ASCII string "4.90.3000" can be found inside it exactly three times. The last one
is part of the version info resource, so I let that one alone and hexedited the other two to be "4.10.2222",
and, bingo!, now SYSDM.CPL shows the windows version correctly as "4.10.2222 A". I have been using
these two modded files on my system for over a fortnight now, and have detected no adverse effects
from the above described mods. So I feel confident they are safe. Hence I decided to post here about
my modded files, in case you, or any other member of the forum, find them interesting.
They can be uploaded at http://rapidshare.com/files/39988442/Nu_Mod.zip

Thanks a lot for your work.
I have added your modded files to 98SE2ME options 1 + 2.

This is how to install these modded files if one already installed 98SE2ME options 1 or 2 before [excerpt from UPDATES.TXT]:

QUOTE

MUST copy these files manually into %windir%\SYSTEM because they are NOT
replaced IF SAME builds already installed:
1. Exit to native/true/real/pure MS-DOS mode:
Start button -> Shut Down... -> Restart in MS-DOS mode -> OK button.
2. Run these commands or save them using Notepad as DOS Style BATch file and
then run it:
ATTRIB +A -H -R -S %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\SYSDM.CPL
ATTRIB +A -H -R -S %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\USER*.*
COPY/Y/Z %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\USER32.W98
COPY/Y/Z %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\USER.EXE %winbootdir%\SYSTEM\USER.W98
IF EXIST C:\9!M\SYSDM.CPL COPY/Y/Z C:\9!M\SYSDM.CPL %winbootdir%\SYSTEM
IF EXIST C:\9!M\USER*.* COPY/Y/Z C:\9!M\USER*.* %winbootdir%\SYSTEM
3. Type WIN and press Enter to (re)load Windows.

HTH

MDGx

Jul 2 2007, 04:51 PM

QUOTE (myelin @ Jun 28 2007, 12:24 PM)

Hello, i wanted to know that whether this project adds some new features to MS Paint, like saving as Gif or Jpeg. Thanks for any replies.

Thanks for your feedback.

Those features require to install (1) fixed MS Paint executable and (2) MS Paint Graphic Filters package:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#PNT
and is beyond the scope of 98SE2ME, which is only a 98 SE to ME upgrade package.

98SE2ME options 1 + 2 install 2 MS Paint filters from WinME CABs/CD-ROM, the only ones included in the Graphic Filters package mentioned above:
MSJPEG32.DLL
MSPCX32.DLL
This is the list of all 98SE2ME installed files + and their locations:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#FME
All other filters from the Graphic Filters package are from other packages/updates/(hot)fixes/SPs/etc.

Besides, WinME MSPAINT.EXE is buggy, must be replaced with the fixed executable mentioned above:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#PNT

HTH [Hope This Helps]

myelin

Jul 3 2007, 10:32 AM

@MDGX: Thanks for the Graphics filter package link. Now MS Paint is opening and saving jpeg and gif files.

Hu$tle

Jul 11 2007, 01:52 PM

1.How many files exactly do 98SE2ME install?

2.Why isn't the patch Notepad that erpdude8 fixed added
don't get me wrong the pfe is cool but its for people like you
who is computer savvy with all those advance features i'm a basic
person.

3.Whats the purpose of option 6 if option 1,2 install the file anyway
and can get it here
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXPLOR98.EXE

4.Files that are not replaced but re-named do they add registry keys if so
thats a problem registry will continue to get bigger for nothing

option 1 installs all files
option 2 installs all WinME files only
option 3 remain as is
option 4 really no purpose for it,if one wanted it option 1 will do the trick.
option 5 really no purpose for it,if one wanted it one will have they own preference
option 6 really no purpose for it
option 7 should be re-named to option 4
then option 5 could be a option to only install games or whatever
(not a bad idea)

5.When we choose the option to backup the system
is it possible to have the back up files compress to a M$ cab file
to keep space on the hard drive.Space is like money to me don't have alot of it.

6.wmi/wbem works on 98SE i have tested and witness no bugs
it also has an update ME260710.EXE which need to be applied

and there you go cleaner and smaller 98SE2ME without a hassle insight.
thanks for a darn good Win98SE systems

awergh

Jul 11 2007, 06:49 PM

well you need the other options because i only use option 2 because i dont want some of that extra stuff like pfe and me usb stuff. and by removing some of those options wouldnt really effect the size because its only like 3mb because it extracts the files from the winme cab files rather than including them.

Hu$tle

Jul 11 2007, 11:37 PM

QUOTE (awergh @ Jul 11 2007, 07:49 PM)

well you need the other options because i only use option 2 because i dont want some of that extra stuff like pfe and me usb stuff. and by removing some of those options wouldnt really effect the size because its only like 3mb because it extracts the files from the winme cab files rather than including them.

option 2 install all the files except
logo,pfe
it also install the usb stuff so what are you talking about

awergh

Jul 12 2007, 01:16 AM

i installed 98se2me and what i did was the copy all 600 system files and then it asked me if i wanted usb stuff and i said no.

what i meant was it is good to have multiple options so that you can have some of the smaller things without having everything, but 98se2me has probably changed since i last used it since i dont upgrade my install i only install 98se2me on a new installation

MDGx

Jul 13 2007, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (bristols @ Jun 23 2007, 12:39 PM)

MDGX,

Could you please spell out the options available to someone who has installed 98SE2ME (with Option 2/the system files) and who wants to update GDI32.DLL and GDI.EXE to the latest available version (e.g., 4.90.3003, as found in the latest 918547 unofficial hotfix for ME)? Can these files be safely replaced by hand/DOS? I ask this in the light of the "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT" message in 918547.txt about the need for a reboot.

Also, am I right in thinking that to be protected from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, I must keep the temporary fix version (U891711, with the running KB891711 process) because there's no unofficial update for the ME versions of USER32.DLL and USER.EXE (which I have as a result of using Option 2 in 98SE2ME)?

TIA.

I have removed GDI*.* 4.90.3003 from 98SE2ME and reverted back to GDI*.* 4.90.3002 because of this problem [from UPDATES.TXT, the 8-22-2006 update]:

QUOTE

* Options 1 + 2: replaced newer WinME GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE 4.90.3003 from
unofficial WinME Q918547 MS06-026 security fix with older GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE
4.90.3002 from unofficial WinME Q912919 hotfix:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU
to avoid power management errors. [thank you PROBLEMCHYLD]

But if you determine that those files [4.90.3003] work ok on your Win98 SE computer, please feel free to install them any way you want.

I have added those "extremely important" warnings because I was notified by soporific that some people try to install an update twice [I have no idea why], without rebooting after the 1st install. So with some updates [exe installers created with iexpress] that actually deletes the original files, effectively locking up the OS after reboot, because those updates rename the original system file(s) in order to back them up, but fail to install the new ones 2nd time over.
I've also added a reboot message that pops up at end of install, for same purpose.

You are right, there are no USER*.* files to protect you from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, if using WinME.
I am waiting to see if the anonymous author decides to fix those WinME files, that's why I haven't removed them yet from 98SE2ME.

HTH

MDGx

Jul 13 2007, 01:49 PM

QUOTE (Hu$tle @ Jul 11 2007, 01:52 PM)

1.How many files exactly do 98SE2ME install?

2.Why isn't the patch Notepad that erpdude8 fixed added
don't get me wrong the pfe is cool but its for people like you
who is computer savvy with all those advance features i'm a basic
person.

3.Whats the purpose of option 6 if option 1,2 install the file anyway
and can get it here
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXPLOR98.EXE

4.Files that are not replaced but re-named do they add registry keys if so
thats a problem registry will continue to get bigger for nothing

option 1 installs all files
option 2 installs all WinME files only
option 3 remain as is
option 4 really no purpose for it,if one wanted it option 1 will do the trick.
option 5 really no purpose for it,if one wanted it one will have they own preference
option 6 really no purpose for it
option 7 should be re-named to option 4
then option 5 could be a option to only install games or whatever
(not a bad idea)

5.When we choose the option to backup the system
is it possible to have the back up files compress to a M$ cab file
to keep space on the hard drive.Space is like money to me don't have alot of it.

6.wmi/wbem works on 98SE i have tested and witness no bugs
it also has an update ME260710.EXE which need to be applied

and there you go cleaner and smaller 98SE2ME without a hassle insight.
thanks for a darn good Win98SE systems

1. All replaced files are listed here:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#FME
as specified in READ1ST.TXT [under the "FAQ" section]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

2. I am actually considering replacing PFE with fixed WinME Notepad [probably in the next update], and thus eliminate option 5 altogether.

3. Actually, now that erpdude8 sent me the newer explorer.exe 4.72.3612.1710 fix [from MS IE 4.01 SP2], the older one you mention just became obsolete, so I'll remove explorer.exe 4.72.3612.1700 completely from 98SE2ME in the next update, and thus eliminate option 6 altogether.
This way I kill 2 birds with the same stone [or shoot 2 rabbits with the same bullet, if you wish

], and avoid potential conflicts with option 3 [for people that install EXPLOR98.EXE], which installs [among other files] explorer.exe 5.50.4134.100 from WinME CABs.

4. Files from WinME that are renamed, like MSCONFIG.EXE renamed to MECONFIG.EXE, or MMSYS.CPL renamed to SOUNDS.CPL, or SIGVERIF.EXE renamed to SIGVRFME.EXE, do not add new/different/weird registry entries after being renamed, because registry entries are dictated by internal code, not be external file name.

I am actually considering creating a new option to install the WinME games separately.
I believe option 4 should be kept, some people don't want to install 98SE2ME, but want the logos [which also install as part of option 1], so it should be optional.
As I said above, I will delete options 5 + 6.

5. Good idea, I will add a backup option [in a future update] to zip up all backed up files into a single archive [zip or cab, easy to decompress with available tools provided by the OS].

6. I will probably add WMI/WBEM in a future update, I just need more testing.

HTH [Hope This Helps]

MDGx

Jul 13 2007, 01:55 PM

QUOTE (awergh @ Jul 12 2007, 01:16 AM)

i installed 98se2me and what i did was the copy all 600 system files and then it asked me if i wanted usb stuff and i said no.

what i meant was it is good to have multiple options so that you can have some of the smaller things without having everything, but 98se2me has probably changed since i last used it since i dont upgrade my install i only install 98se2me on a new installation

About being asked to install or not USB files:
98SE2ME usually does not install newer WinME files if same versions of those files have been installed previously.
98SE2ME performs file-by-file version check using getver.exe .

HTH

Hu$tle

Jul 15 2007, 09:41 PM

Thanks for your replies and
and if you replace the the Notepad with WinME version can you keep the WinXP newer looking
icon also

I have made a list of the files you have removed

SYSTRAY.EXE
VCACHE.VXD
MPREXE.EXE
DEVMGR32.DLL
MPLAYER.EXE
SHIMGVW.DLL
NETAPI.DLL,
NETAPI32.DLL
NETDI.DLL
NETOS.DLL
MSVCIRT.DLL
DSKMAINT.DLL
FIOLOG.VXD
DRVSPACE.EXE
DRVSPACE.SYS
DRVSPACX.VXD
MFC42.DLL

some of these files should be added back like office files
MSWRD832.CNV
WRITE32.WPC
MSOWS409.DLL
because everybody don't have a copy of office products and everybody might
not install the unofficial service pack.
also with these files being removed i would like to asked if they can be re-tested
only because we have had so many newer updates/patches etc...
that might fixed the bugs these files were causing.
files like shell32.dll explorer.exe user32.dll all have been updated
so they might help in fixing bugs
also do these removed files work well with option 3 instead of option 1+2
alot of people don't used option 3 but i do.Will they be better suited there.

I really would like to see a final build thats why i'll give it all i got.
you have my support a 100%

MDGx

Jul 18 2007, 06:55 AM

QUOTE (Hu$tle @ Jul 15 2007, 09:41 PM)

Thanks for your replies and
and if you replace the the Notepad with WinME version can you keep the WinXP newer looking
icon also

I have made a list of the files you have removed

some of these files should be added back like office files
MSWRD832.CNV
WRITE32.WPC
MSOWS409.DLL
because everybody don't have a copy of office products and everybody might
not install the unofficial service pack.
also with these files being removed i would like to asked if they can be re-tested
only because we have had so many newer updates/patches etc...
that might fixed the bugs these files were causing.
files like shell32.dll explorer.exe user32.dll all have been updated
so they might help in fixing bugs
also do these removed files work well with option 3 instead of option 1+2
alot of people don't used option 3 but i do.Will they be better suited there.

I really would like to see a final build thats why i'll give it all i got.
you have my support a 100%

Thanks for your feedback.

98SE2ME 7-18-2007 update installs fixed NOTEPAD.EXE 4.90.3001 [as part of options 1 + 2] which has the WinXP Notepad icon. Although...

QUOTE

MUST copy NOTEPAD.EXE 4.90.3001 manually from C:\9!M into %windir% because
it is NOT copied IF older NOTEPAD.EXE 4.10.199x or 4.90.3000 NOT present in
%windir% .

... as specified in UPDATES.TXT:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php

I have removed those files you mention not because they are part of [or suitable for] MS Office or whatever other packs/software, but because newer versions than the ones installed by 98SE2ME [from WinME CABs or from WinME updates/fixes] can be installed from other sources/packs/fixes/updates, and which I strongly recommend to install, because newer versions usually fix bugs/security flaws.

SHELL32.DLL, EXPLORER.EXE + USER*.* files have been updated, but only for Win98 SE [4.10.xxxx], not for WinME [4.90.3xxx].
98SE2ME installs only WinME files, among which are the files above.

Option 3 installs only the files that otherwise do not work properly if installed separately. They must be installed together or not at all.

HTH

Hu$tle

Jul 20 2007, 07:25 PM

Is SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 added to 98SE2ME because i was reading
and it said SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.100 was installed from the cd.
I think you missed my point about option 4 the boot logos
this is what i was saying
option 4 really has no purpose only because option 1 will install option 4 the boot logos
now think about for a second who is gonna install only option 4?
other than that i appreciate your work with the utmost thanks again.

PROBLEMCHYLD

Jul 23 2007, 01:11 PM

QUOTE (Hu$tle @ Jul 11 2007, 02:52 PM)

1.How many files exactly do 98SE2ME install?

I counted over 800 files including option 3

AbyssHunted

Jul 23 2007, 01:23 PM

Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?

BPoller

Jul 24 2007, 06:00 AM

Did anyone tranlated 98SE2ME into german already. Only found some postings from somebody who wanted to try. I am using Win98SE again, since i got some Thin Clients which i want to make Win98 CF-Card boot into RAM-Disk ready. Have used Win2k the last 5 years, but found Win98 on friends PCs to fix often. And now i am interested to make a small up2date Win98SE like so many did before.

I own legal german licences of Win95 original, Win98SE, WinME (and Win2k).
- The unoffical ServicePack v2.1d is available in german
- IE6 & OE Updates are available in german
- USB 1.1 & 2.0 UpdatePacks (NUSB?) are available in german
- The Revolution Pack 7 is available in german (following the readme)
- KernelEX does not need special Language as far as i remember

If there is no offically posted german version, i would like to try it myself, also i dont want to invent the wheel twice (as we say in Germany).
And if there are other Tweak-Packs which are needed to translate, i would be lucky, if i could help.

Beeing my first posting here, i also want to say hello

and wish to join your group of Win98SE-is-still-alive fans.

MDGx

Jul 25 2007, 03:58 AM

QUOTE (Hu$tle @ Jul 20 2007, 07:25 PM)

Is SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 added to 98SE2ME because i was reading
and it said SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.100 was installed from the cd.
I think you missed my point about option 4 the boot logos
this is what i was saying
option 4 really has no purpose only because option 1 will install option 4 the boot logos
now think about for a second who is gonna install only option 4?
other than that i appreciate your work with the utmost thanks again.

1. SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 was added to 98SE2ME back in December 2006 [as stated in UPDATES.TXT, the 12-13-2006 update]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php

QUOTE

12-13-2006
* Option 3: added newer SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120 [%windir%\SYSTEM] from WinME
hotfix:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU

Also, READ1ST.TXT states under the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section, the "* Option 3:" sub-section:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

QUOTE

- Patched WinME Shell 32-bit Control = SHELL32.DLL 5.50.4134.120:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=84451
available at:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#MEU

2. Actually some people here, at MSFN, told me a while back, they would like to see a separate option for installing the 98SE2ME logos, so I haven't removed it.

HTH