Just a quick question:

I've allready installed the latest 98SE2ME (July 18th), but every time I boot my machine, during the processing of AUTOEXEC.BAT, I get messages saying something like this:

ATTRIB firstfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

ATTRIB secondfilename
1 file(s) copied
0 file(s) copied

etc...

Is this supposed to happen every time I boot?

Did anyone tranlated 98SE2ME into german already...

If there is no offically posted german version, i would like to try it myself...

Beeing my first posting here, i also want to say hello and wish to join your group of Win98SE-is-still-alive fans.

I have removed GDI*.* 4.90.3003 from 98SE2ME and reverted back to GDI*.* 4.90.3002 because of this problem [from UPDATES.TXT, the 8-22-2006 update]:But if you determine that those files [4.90.3003] work ok on your Win98 SE computer, please feel free to install them any way you want.

I have added those "extremely important" warnings because I was notified by soporific that some people try to install an update twice [I have no idea why], without rebooting after the 1st install. So with some updates [exe installers created with iexpress] that actually deletes the original files, effectively locking up the OS after reboot, because those updates rename the original system file(s) in order to back them up, but fail to install the new ones 2nd time over.
I've also added a reboot message that pops up at end of install, for same purpose.

You are right, there are no USER*.* files to protect you from the vulnerabilities addressed by 891711, if using WinME.
I am waiting to see if the anonymous author decides to fix those WinME files, that's why I haven't removed them yet from 98SE2ME.

I counted over 800 files including option 3

I have no idea why this happens on your computer, never happened on anybody else's as far as I'm aware.

Could you please post here the autoexec.bat code and the exact messages [file names, if any] you see upon every boot?
If I could see it, maybe I can try to fix it.

Thanks in advance.

also, the actual AUTOEXEC.BAT had a bunch of "@IF EXIST filename COPY filename"statements ,
except on the last line where it said something like "@IF EXIST C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT C:\9!M\O2DOS.BAT" (not sure I have the right batch file - I might have been 5 instead of 2, and there may have been two lines like that).
I remember that the autoexec had 13 or so total statements in it, all related to 98SE2ME.

Finally, I had tried a step-by-step confirmation boot, and I was able to boot without any noticable side effects by skipping the execution of AUTOEXEC.

...... the installation updated two system files to WinME versions:

PSMON.DLL: 4.10.1998 to 4.90.3000
PSCRIPT.DRV: 4.10.2222 to 4.90.3000

Both CutePDF and these files seem to be working fine, so far. Is there any reason you know for why these ME files are not included in 98SE2ME?

TIA.

Hy! I am guy that tested all the packs and all the stuff that exist on this forum and i can say that 98se2me it's very unstable, the explorer crashes very fast and it slows the computer, all the revelation packs are the same, very unstable. The best thing is Unoficial SP2 for win98. That's all i can say.

Depends how do you have applied these packs.
Never had particular problems with all packs in this board, except windows explorer patch to 256 colors and few things.

Another problem: i have a cable internet conection PPPoe and after the 98se2me instalation my conection can't conect to the internet. So? How can i fix this?

Hi, Xstyle: RTFM!

Relevant Excerpt from the "98SE2ME ReadMe Text Guide"
found as html at http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php and
as plain text at http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT

Hey. I'm new around here and was wondering...

Should I install 98SE2ME after the Windows 98SE unofficial service pack 2.1a, then install Revolutions Pack 7?
Just wondering. Thanks.

@ MDGX:

I've updated 98se2me to the last version, but I've problems to replace icon of 98SE2ME.exe with your last MAINICON (I use restorator for this).

When I do it, I receive this error if I execute 98SE2ME.exe after replace:

"Setup Files are corrupted."

Thank you for all your work.

How to replace MAINICO with custom (smaller) icon to reduce size of installer
executable:
1. Download + install Inno Setup 5.0.3-beta executable [my favorite, creates
smallest installer]:
http://files.jrsoftware.org/is/5/
2. Download + unZIP Resource Hacker [freeware]:
http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/
You need an unZIPping tool to extract files from ZIP archives [most are
free(ware)]:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#ZIP
3. Replace MAINICON Icon Group with my own INNOSMAL.ICO (included) from these
5 Inno Setup files:
ISCMPLR.DLL
SETUP.E32
SETUPLDR.E32
COMPIL32.EXE
ISCC.EXE
Open each of these 5 files with Resource Hacker executable -> scroll down to
Icon Group in left hand pane -> double-click Icon Group -> double-click
MAINICON in right hand pane -> left-click 1033 -> left-click Action from File
menu -> click Replace Icon... -> click Open file with new icon... -> browse to
the location of INNOSMAL.ICO -> double-click INNOSMAL.ICO -> click Open ->
click Replace -> click File -> click Save as... -> double-click same file name
you opened in Resource Hacker -> answer Yes to overwrite file -> exit Resource
Hacker.
You may want to backup these 5 files before modifying them.

Done. I had some trouble with RP7 due to its custom boot logo being incompatible with my set up. I got 98se2me's startup one back, but i can't seem to get the shutdown one to appear... (all I see is the DOS cursor.)

LOGOS and LOGOW.sys are still present in C:\windows

* BUG:
After installing 98SE2ME options 1 or 2 which install patched WinME USER32.DLL
+ USER.EXE 4.90.3001 among other WinME system files [see "* Option 2:" under
"98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" chapter further above] wait-to-shut-down +
shut-down logos: %windir%\LOGOW.SYS + %windir%\LOGOS.SYS [%windir% = usually
C:\WINDOWS] will not display anymore.
FIX:
In such case replace WinME USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.90.3001 with patched
Unofficial Win98 SE USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.10.2233:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/q891711.php
Direct download [418 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q891711.EXE

* BUG:
After installing 98SE2ME options 1 or 2 which install patched WinME USER.EXE
4.90.3001 among other WinME system files [see "* Option 2:" under "98SE2ME.PIF
COMPLETE GUIDE" chapter further above] on portable (laptops + notebooks)
computers with power saving features turned on you may experience power
saving, standby, suspend etc restart in MS-DOS mode and/or shutdown errors,
because:
- WinME USER.EXE does NOT natively support "Restart in MS-DOS mode".
- All USER.EXE versions have to call functions in VPOWERD.VXD for shutdown
and standby, and WinME VPOWERD.VXD is very different from the Win98 SE one.
FIX:
In such case replace WinME USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.90.3001 with patched
Unofficial Win98 SE USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.10.2233:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/q891711.php
Direct download [418 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q891711.EXE

Hey. I'm new around here and was wondering...

Should I install 98SE2ME after the Windows 98SE unofficial service pack 2.1a, then install Revolutions Pack 7?
Just wondering. Thanks.

* This is the order [can be changed depending on personal preferences] I
recommend to install Windows 98 SE OS and ALL current/NEWest (Hot)Fixes,
Patches, Updates, Upgrades + Service Packs, and refers strictly to Win98 SE
English edition so you can take advantage of SP2, 98SE2ME, 98MP10, NUSB,
MDCU, WUPG, RP, KernelEx etc:
1. Windows 98 SE OS from MS setup CD-ROM, preferably "fresh" [from scratch,
onto an empty (eventually newly formatted) hard drive/partition], preferably
after copying ALL *.CAB files from the CD onto your local hard disk to
minimize install time.
Better to automate OS install by using unattended mode MSBATCH.INF scripts:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#DEV
to skip annoying steps and add favorite apps/games/tools/tweaks/mods/etc to
your list at install time.
If you plan on multi-booting with Windows NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista, 95/ME
and/or Linux/FreeBSD/BeOS/MacOS/etc, it is best to:
A. Use a partitioning tool:
http://www.mdgx.com/secrets.htm#FDPT
and create at least as many partitions as many OSes you plan to install.
B. Install a multi-boot manager:
http://www.mdgx.com/dos.htm#DOS
C. Install each OS + all its apps/tools/tweaks/games/mods/etc into its own
drive/partition/root directory.
2. DirectX 9.0c + ALL Patches + Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/dx.htm
MUST install DirectX 9.0c: besides implementing support for most newer video,
audio, gaming + networking Serial, PCI, AGP, USB + FireWire internal +
external hardware devices, also corrects most BUGs + errors from ALL older
DirectX releases.
3. Internet Explorer (IE) 6.0 SP1 + ALL Patches + Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm
MUST install NEWest IE + ALL current Patches REGARDLESS of which other
browser(s) you use to surf the net, because of Windows "browser integration".
This means a lot of system files from %windir%\SYSTEM used by your OS to
access/connect to the network(s)/internet are also part of IE browsing engine,
and MUST be kept up to date to avoid ANY known bug, flaw, security
vulnerability etc, to avoid exposing your computer(s) to network/internet
based spyware/malware/etc attacks.
MS stopped making patches for ALL older MS IE versions [5.0, 5.01, 5.5 SP1,
5.5 SP2 + 6.0] EXCEPT 6.0 SP1. That's why you MUST install MS IE 6.0 SP1 AND
ALL its security patches, because this is the ONLY way you can keep your Win98
SE computer(s) as secure as possible.
4. Windows Media Player 9.0 (WMP9) + ALL Patches + Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm
MUST install NEWest WMP + ALL current Patches REGARDLESS of which other
multimedia tool(s) you use to play/record/edit/stream/decode/encode
audio/music/video/movies/DVDs/etc, because most such tools (including media
players + web browsers) use WMP DirectShow + NetShow DirectX APIs, engine +
codecs, and most importantly because most current WMP patches plug security
holes.
MS stopped making patches for ALL older WMP versions [6.4, 7.0, 7.1 + 8.0]
EXCEPT 9.0, 10.0 + 11.0. That's why you MUST install WMP9 AND ALL its security
patches, because this is the ONLY way you can keep your Win98 SE computer(s)
as secure as possible.
5. System Add-ons, Components + ALL Patches + Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm
6. ALL Windows 98 SE Patches + Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE
7. Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2 (SP2):
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
Benefits: fixed OS BUGs + security flaws, improved graphical interface,
performance + better hardware compatibility.
8. 98SE2ME [optional]:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46349
Benefits: fixed OS BUGs + security flaws, improved graphical interface,
performance + better hardware compatibility.
9. 98MP10 [optional]:
http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#98MP10
Benefits: fixed WMP9 BUGs + security flaws, newer XP SP2 WMP10.
10. Unofficial Native USB Drivers (NUSB):
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#NUS
Benefits: fixed USB BUGs + better USB + FireWire hardware compatibility.
11. Unofficial Revolutions Packs (RP) [optional]:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=58357
Benefits: enhanced OS graphical interface + shell.
12. Unnoficial KernelEx Project [optional]:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=71476
Benefits: may allow NTx specific apps/games to install/work in Windows 98 SE.
13. ALL current 3rd party/add-on/proprietary drivers needed by your computer
hardware devices from their manufacturer/developer/vendor web/FTP sites:
install first Windows ME specific drivers, and if those don't work, install
Windows 98 SE specific drivers.
14. Applications, tools, tweaks, games, mods etc + ALL their current
patches/updates [optional].
15. Go play [optional]. ;-)

I'm working on inserting 98SE2ME into an unattended disc, but I just had a quick question - is it totally impossible to integrate option 3 with all the others without a reboot in between? If so, out of interest, why is that?

Thanks,

Wrayal

To add 98SE2ME scripts + Windows ME setup CD-ROM CABs to your custom
unattended Windows 98 SE setup boot CD/DVD:
- Copy ALL *.CAB files from \WIN9X [Windows ME setup CD-ROM] to your CD/DVD.
- Open with Notepad or better plain text editor/viewer:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#TXT
ALL *.BAT + *.INF files from C:\9!M and replace ALL C:\9!M text strings with
X:\9!M where X is your CD/DVD drive letter [make sure it matches your actual
drive letter].
- Copy ENTIRE C:\9!M folder + ALL its files [installed by 98SE2ME.EXE]
modified as detailed above to your CD/DVD root folder.

To install ONLY Windows ME Explorer, Shell, Dialog, Folders + Movie Maker
[98SE2ME option 3] onto your Windows 98 SE OS WITHOUT installing ANY OTHER
98SE2ME components, just add this line to your MSBATCH.INF [example = modify
if necessary]:

-----Begin cut & paste here-----
[DefaultInstall]
RunPostSetupCommands=O3:1
[O3]
"X:\9!M\O3.BAT"
------End cut & paste here------

where X is your CD/DVD drive letter [make sure it matches your actual drive
letter].
O3.BAT is responsible for installing 98SE2ME option 3.

Hy! I am guy that tested all the packs and all the stuff that exist on this forum and i can say that 98se2me it's very unstable, the explorer crashes very fast and it slows the computer, all the revelation packs are the same, very unstable. The best thing is Unoficial SP2 for win98. That's all i can say.

* BUG:
Active network/internet connection may stop working after installing 98SE2ME
option 1 or option 2 on some computers connected to [USB] xDSL modems and/or
using (RAS)PPPoE protocol/drivers:
http://www.raspppoe.com/
FIX:
This BUG is not completely fixed yet!
If you discover a fix, please post it here [thank you]:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46349
These are the only known workarounds:
1. Reset/reconfigure/reinstall/repair TCP/IP protocols + Client for Microsoft
Network either from Control Panel -> Network or by using one of these
free(ware) repair tools:
http://www.mdgx.com/fw.htm#TCP
2. Run these 2 commands:
IPCONFIG /release_all
IPCONFIG /renew_all
IPCONFIG.EXE should exist in %windir% [usually C:\WINDOWS].
More info @ MSKB:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314850
3. If that doesn't work, restore these Windows 98 SE system files
[%windir%\SYSTEM = usually C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM] from setup CD-ROM or CABs or
BACKUPS if you selected to backup your entire OS before installing any 98SE2ME
options [the 1st time]:
CFGMGR32.DLL
CFGWIZ.DLL
FINSTALL.DLL
INDICDLL.DLL
MSNET32.DLL
MSPP32.DLL
MSTCP.DLL
NDSWAN16.DLL
NDSWAN32.DLL
NETAPI.DLL
NETAPI32.DLL
NETDI.DLL
NETOS.DLL
RASAPI16.DLL
RASAPI32.DLL
RNAUI.DLL
SETUP4.DLL
SETUPAPI.DLL
SETUPX.DLL
TAPI32.DLL
CABL98SE.TXT lists the exact location of these files:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXTCAB.ZIP
How to extract files from CABs:
http://www.mdgx.com/last4.htm#EXTRACT
Certain %windir%\SYSTEM files MUST be replaced ONLY from native MS-DOS mode.
How to exit/reboot into native/true/real/pure MS-DOS mode:
A. Left-click the Start button -> click Shut Down... -> select Restart in
MS-DOS mode -> click the OK button.
B. OR hold down Shift + F5 at the same time during BIOS boot POST (Power On
Self Test) sequence.
C. OR scroll down using the down arrow to the "Command prompt only" option and
then press Enter from the Windows 95/98 Startup Menu:
http://www.mdgx.com/msdos.htm#MEN
D. OR from a Windows 95/98/ME Emergency/Bootup/Startup
floppy/CD/DVD/USB/external disc/stick/tape.
Replace these files in small groups, for example start with:
NDSWAN16.DLL
NDSWAN32.DLL
if that doesn't work, replace:
RASAPI16.DLL
RASAPI32.DLL
if that doesn't work, replace:
RNAUI.DLL
if that doesn't work, replace:
NETAPI.DLL
NETAPI32.DLL
NETDI.DLL
NETOS.DLL
... etc.
Reboot normal when done and then repeat (only if necessary) all steps at #1 +
#2 above.
Windows 98 SE system files [located into %windir%\SYSTEM] used by RASPPPoE
protocol/drivers:
ADVAPI32.DLL
COMCTL32.DLL
GDI32.DLL
INDICDLL.DLL
KERNEL32.DLL
MSVCRT.DLL
OLE32.DLL
RPCRT4.DLL
SHELL32.DLL
SHLWAPI.DLL
TAPI32.DLL
VERSION.DLL
USER32.DLL

CAUTION:
WinME files installed by option 3 may change and/or lose Win98 SE interface
functionality, stability and/or performance!

How to restore your original Windows 98 SE files:
- Start button -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> select
"98SE2ME Option 3: Restore Win98 SE Explorer, Shell + UI" -> click Add/Remove
button -> reboot.
OR:
- (Double-)click on %windir%\INF\O3RES.BAT [%windir% = usually C:\WINDOWS].
IMPORTANT:
IF you have ALREADY installed option 3 [see complete list of files above] at
LEAST ONCE BEFORE, AND IF after that you have DELETED the Win98 SE *.98A
BACKUPS [see complete list of files above], you MUST NOT REinstall option 3,
because IF you do, you will NOT be able to RESTORE ORIGINAL Win98 SE system
files anymore!
In such case you MUST RESTORE Win98 SE system files from Windows 98 SE CABs or
setup CD-ROM BEFORE trying to REinstall option 3!

Please rwad these 2 fragments from READ1ST.TXT:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.phpHTH

So can I just install this update or do I have to uninstall the previous edition then run this? I'm running 98SE2Me on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 PII 300Mhz laptop. I'tll randomly bluescreen when shutting down- always seems to be some different reason each time. Sometimes it shuts down just fine.

Before applying 98SE2Me, I installed 98SE, IE6, DirectX 9.0c, and all the Toshiba drivers for the laptop and the Deskstation V+ doxking station. After 98SE2Me it can't tell if it's docked or not. I have to select the configuration manually at boot.

I have this same problem too. But before I apply this fix, I was wondering if there is anything (features, bug/security fixes, or otherwise) that I'm losing by changing my USER32.DLL and USER.EXE versions...

Not that I'm aware of, unless you have had erratic mouse cursor problems, like I used to have when I was using Win98 SE USER*.* files, that were fixed by the WinME USER*.* files.

Recommended:
If using 98SE2ME option 3, you may want to keep the WinME USER*.* files.

HTH

I did install option 3...
So do you I reccomend I keep my system unable to view shutdown logos if option 3 is installed?

It's all up to you, whichever you prefer...
1. see the logos when you shut down Windows or
2. keep the features installed by 98SE2ME option 3 [and the rest of WinME files].

P.S.:
IMHO: I keep the WinME files, I don't care about any wait-to-shut-down +/- shut-down logos, the only logo I want to see is the startup/bootup logo [C:\LOGO.SYS], which is not affected by the WinME USR*.* files.

HTH

Dear MDGx:
I do appreciate your 98SE2ME a lot.
But the modded SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001 included in it, besides saying "Microsoft Windows 98 Second
Edition", instead of "Microsoft Windows ME", suppresses the display of the version info to avoid the
old "4.90.3000 A" version mistake from appearing. But there it remains...
So I decided to try my hand at it and modded once again the SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001, which I got from
ME280800.EXE, for it to say "Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition", but did not suppress the version
info display. All I accomplished up to this point was to get the "4.90.3000 A" version apearing once more...
But, it turns out that SYSDM.CPL gets its version info from inside USER.EXE (of which I use 4.90.3001,
of course!). In fact, the ASCII string "4.90.3000" can be found inside it exactly three times. The last one
is part of the version info resource, so I let that one alone and hexedited the other two to be "4.10.2222",
and, bingo!, now SYSDM.CPL shows the windows version correctly as "4.10.2222 A". I have been using
these two modded files on my system for over a fortnight now, and have detected no adverse effects
from the above described mods. So I feel confident they are safe. Hence I decided to post here about
my modded files, in case you, or any other member of the forum, find them interesting.
They can be uploaded at http://rapidshare.com/files/39988442/Nu_Mod.zip
Keep on the great work!