I still can't reproduce. It is working for me. Try to delete Temporary Internet Files or Reset All Internet Settings or Repair Internet Explorer; try to disable LameSkin via RPConfig.

Hi Tihiy,

I remember installing the revolutions pack a while ago and thought I might check it out again ... I just tried it then in a virtual machine after running the autopatcher (full install) and it needs a missing file: msvbvm60.dll -- is this because its inside a virtual machine or is it some other issue?

Cheers, sop.

No, it is because it needs that file. It is included in SP2.
It is around for 8 years.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192461

So, without reading all 44 pages of this post, your saying we need to install
the unofficial service pack 2 - 1st, before installing you revolutions pack.
It might have been polite to say so instead of the response along with
the angry face at the end of your post.

No, you don't need SP2.
And if you don't know what msvbvm60.dll for, you don't need RPLite either.

I know what msvbvm60.dll is, it's just that you quoted

Myself - I install all VB runtime updates everytime I re-install 98SE
I guess the fellow above you doesn't, but you say it is included in
Sp2, then say you don't need Sp2.
What you're really saying is you assume that everyone installs it on their
98SE system, I don't, & never will after the experiences i've had with it.
I guess soporific doesn't install the service packs, but your reply was as
if we're just dum noobs wasting your time..
Perhaps we should all be knowledge tested before joining so as not
to offend you aye.

Well,
1) soprofic is an Autopatcher creator. How could he not be aware of essential 98 library update? (180 mb of updates and no vbrun60?!) It was my personal shock after all.
2) i have provided link to vbrun60 to use if no SP2 is installed.

And that's right too.

LOL

It's just some common sense:
MSVBVM60.DLL = MicroSoft VisualBasic Virtual Machine version 6.0.DLL

Get some relax, ppl

I agree with rainyshadow....

really...it's so simple....

If you guys are on this site trying to modify your OS, enhance it, etc...you better know what a missing file is.

If I am missing files, I always look for 'em....

How hard is it to google/search for it?

simple.

Tihiy, now you can update io.sys from Q311561:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Localized-Q311561-t87416.html



Tried in my language and it works!

Roger that!

- I need a notebook to make my systray.exe replacement.

Well, same for the french version ! Thanks

I tried your latest revision of RPLite6++ and received two errors during setup.

One of the setup apis failed, and docprop (or something - apologies, I didn't make a note) extraction failed.

All the WinME setup CABs were on my hard drive, in my root (C:\) directory.

This is with a fully updated system, with 98SE2ME (Option 2 only).

Please note that newer unofficial GDI.EXE and GDI32.DLL builds are available (build 4.90.3003).

Revolutions Pack 6++ updated
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/RPLite6PP.exe
md5: 82bd808932e4ec783e1be900a32c0dc3

- Provided localized IO.SYS for all supported languages
- Latest LameSkin bugfix included
- Maybe fixed "Blind Scandisk with new Logo" bug
- Some toolbar graphics updated

Note: no code has been changed because RPLite6 code branch is frozen.

Pleeease, try to move them somewhere but not root directory.
Hope it works.

Thx. Please note that RPLite does not updates GDI files.

The reason for why I put the ME CABs in C:\ in the first place was that I had experienced these same errors when letting RPLite find them on my ME disk. For whatever reason, these problems during setup reocurr for me. 98SE2ME extracts the CABs with no problems. Therefore, I don't think that my ME disk is corrupted in any way, and my CD drive seems able to read it OK.

I'll try putting the CABs in another directory as you suggest, thanks.



Ah, sorry. I'm not fully awake today.

You have! The only downside is that now Scandisk doesn't prompt me for errors or a surface scan, and the loading screen doesn't pop up after scandisk is done.

Hooray!
I'll deal with those problems later.

[deleted] - sorry, there wasn't anything worth reading.

Ehm... any news about a Tango version ?

May Tango Shell Patcher helps ?

A Crystal icons theme would be great too (but also Exquisite icons, Nuvola - - and so on) !

Deep to the core: what about icon libraries/packs support ?

Only if you'll advice good window style (skin) for those icons.


Planned.

I deleted my first attempt at a reply because I was unhappy with the tone. However, upon reflection, I was right to express the amount of dismay that I did. But first let me give some background ...

An anatomy of a msfn contributer: i first posted on this forum about 1.5 years ago. it was about asking for help with a boot disk I was making so I wouldn't have to spend 5 hours re-installing Windows 98se every time I did it for friends and family. In the end, I thought that I would give something back to the msfn community who had helped me and so I posted a way to create your own unattended boot CD. I was heartened by the response and so kept developing it. The project morphed into the Windows 98 seven years later edition. This was developed to the point that I had a functioning autopatcher written into the unattended boot CD code. Then when M$ stopped support for Win98 I decided to update the autopatcher part. Which is where we are today.

I haven't got a degree in computing, I don't know how to program in any language except BASIC, Visual Basic for MS Access, and obviously batch files, and my two main skiils are guitar playing and revolutionary political activism. My only knowledge of computing in a Windows environment comes from the experience of using the stupid things, as far back as Win 3.11.

So where, in the story above, was I supposed to be an expert on a system library file you obviously think I should have been? Does this invalidate all my efforts of the last year to help keep Windows 98 alive? Does this mean my project should just be ignored by you and all the other cliquey elite on this board? Which it has been so far ... your only comment to date has been to complain about the size. I asked you a question about your comment, and you ignored it.

The next time we communicate is when I ask a question about your project and I get an angry emoticon in return. I was giving you feedback about a situation where some people are not going to be able to use your project, and your reply sucked to the extreme!!! Are the projects on msfn only for the elite? Most projects I've seen have instructions on the first post that helps out with using it. This means those who don't know everything, can use it as well.

Explain yourself Tihiy!!!

The short answer, YES,.
It is the case with most people who develop knowledge on this forum.
Not all, just most.
Like I posted above, perhaps we should all be knowledge tested prior
to joining so as not to insult the elite toffs of the forum by asking
so-called noob questions, & be made to feel like an id*** in
doing so.

Okie - dokie. This is my project, my thread and my small personal world. Please note there were a number of problems and complains with RP, so you're not first one.
Why the heck there is no instructions in first post? Why the heck there is no 100+ pages readme.txt? Why the heck you didn't answer my question, Tihiy? How to uninstall your s***, Tihiy?
...because I suck.

And yes, if you can't unpack exe into directory, install VB Runtime files, click exe file and read English, i honestly ask you: please, do not install this program.

I'm not gonna write proper readme, and i'm not gonna grow this pack to 180+ mb just because of that people.
I'm sure this project could have more popularity if I do. I just don't want. Sorry, that's how i am.


Well, there is no politics and no elite here. Your project looks like solid hard piece of work. Just you must know, most Win9x users are limited (cpu, memory, d/l speed <= money) and thus won't download 180 mb for alpha, that is a common sense.
What more interesting is that you do know for example, about .Net Framework runtime libraries, which no casual 9x user will ever want.


No-no-no. There are a lot of people who can answer any question if you ask them [for example, MDGx], it's only this thread.

Fine, if that's the way you want to play ... if you aren't going to take some responsibility then this is the sort of reply you should expect ...

I'm not complaining about a problem with your project, I'm complaining that your attitude completely sucks the big one. The point about the instructions, or the lack of them, was that its not as if you instructed anyone to make sure the library dll files were already installed. So, where the f**k do you get off with that attitude? You've picked the wrong marxist revolutionary to do this to because I like fighting fire with fire, only greatly magnified in return.


I CAN unpack exe's into directories, I CAN install VB runtime files, AND I CAN DO ALL THE REST TIHIY!! So, why shouldn't I install the program!!! Why shouldn't I check out another candidate to possibly include in the universal autopatcher for Window s98se? Why do you even bother to use the word "please"?



here we go again about your idio*ic comments regarding 180mb autopatcher files. Do you think i want it to be that big? Which is why I challenged you to comment about what could be left out ... if you aren't going to reply to this question, THEN F***KING WELL SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Let me say it again, how can we reduce the file size down from 180mb plus? This autopatcher is supposed to work exactly like the one for Windows XP. That is, if I have just re-installed my XP operating system (even if I use an up-to-date unattended DVD) the first thing I normally do is run the latest Autopatcher for Windows XP. I plan on doing a similar thing with autopatcher for Windows 98se so people around the world can save heaps and heaps of time. Already I can see that my project is being used to do exactly that. The only complaint about the size has come from you.


Its included as an optional extra, just like the vb runtime files will be. This is the evidence that you have a completely elitist outlook about computing. You are most likely right that the casual user will not be bothered about .Net 2 --- and when they come across something they want to use that requires .Net to be installed, then they can go back to the autopatcher and install it. That's all they need to do. I know NOTHING about .Net except that it may be needed to install in order to use recently released apps. SO that's why its included.

So, are you going to keep digging your hole?

Well, my attidute is what i've meant; you aren't first one.

Perhaps i should rename my Revolutions Pack?..
Well, reason is simple: if you can't solve missing dll problem [2 sec with google], you may be completely crashed by problems that may arise after real install.

I won't recommend so. Not more than 10% of users would like to install it; it is changed greatly with every major version and minor updates are often too.

Well, right, Autopatcher for XP is f***ing big.
But we do talk about 98. Honestly, most users do not need anything except system file updates.
- IEAK: never
- NFR2: almost never
- MMC: almost never
- NTMTG: almost never
- L2TP/IPSEC: almost never
- SYSPOL: almost never
- WMP9: mostly only for codecs support
- IE6: yes, but stripped down
I hope your project will be popular.
Please forgive my rudeness.

...just discovered...

CrystalXP.net
(would Vista Inspirat be more legal than ripped icons ?)

As always: hope to see Crystal98 !!!

Although it is really cool and not so hard to port for RPLite i i think it won't be fair.
I'll ask those guys.

Holy crap man, take a pill. I barely have any Windows 98 dll knowledge, yet I am not having the same problems as you. So did you ever think the problem lies with you and not Tihiy? I can safely say that Tihiy's work is high quality. So jeez man, chill out.

Since i'm trying to change my 98 look (but with legal stuff), i discovered some interesting things:

- IconTweaker, A free tool to customize Windows icons
- ConvertIcon, ICO to PNG or PNG to ICO web application

- More icons more fun:
Oxygen Icons
Toon! Icon Theme
Icons @forum.crystalxp.net

I already asked icon authors to release ITA file (IconTweaker Theme Archives), anyway if someone wanna try (and share)...

Hi Tihiy!Why u don't make an engine for skining in 98SE like in XP?
Than we can make diferent themes with icons and taskbar skin!!!

By all means, he has.

Unless you mean for XP themes to be fully compatible with Tihiy's hack? There's not too big of a chance of that ever happening, as it's just too much work for one person. Plus, a lot of graphics are different sizes than XP's required image sizes. The engine that Tihiy has created is lighter than XP's own engine, and already allows decent skinning support. If you wish to re-create some of your favorite themes from XP skins, then I think what we need is a template of sorts from Tihiy.

Tihiy: do you have Photoshop, or a tool that will allow you to create a template with slices for each image file that needs to be created from a theme? If you had a template for us, it'd be a hundred times easier to create our own themes.

Some considerations:
1. There's a great world of designers that does very cool jobs almost for free (check out GUI Champs, to have a little idea), so it could be interesting (even for that artists) to have a 98 "port";
2. There are many interesting open/free technologies (such as HVIF , for example) that can be used...
3. There are interesting open/free shell alternative (my favourite is SharpE , that unfortunally is only win2000/xp -delphi- app )
4. AFAIK there aren't any open windows theme manager...


So here's my "1+1=2" idea:

Why don't "we" (i'm not a developer ) put together thoose hints to build a cool-open (and hopefully multi-platform) theme manager/shell ?
The open license could help Tihiy to be more legal, let other developers contribute to the project and certainly help the grow of 3rd-party projects (ReactOS, for example )

No, you're wrong! LameSkin is 99% bitmap compatible with XP msstyles.

When LameSkin becomes mature, i'll definitely create converter for XP skins.


Cool indeed.

ShellWM, but it is abadoned.


Well, there'll definitely be something like this in RPLite7.

I discovered the Illumination and CustomEyes too...

...i also opened a specific 3ad @ ReactOS > Design forum

Well, i got an old notebook.
Its battery completely died, but at least it'll help me to make first systray replacement.

Little modification for Metalic Vista TaskBar Skin!
Tihiy please use AERO_TASKBARBACKGROUNDBOTTOM_BMP.bmp in some another theme for PRlite!
Click to view attachment
Click to view attachment
Click to view attachment

That's gonna be cool !

I don't know if this can be interesting for you, Tihiy, but:



I think could be an interesting chance for RPLite to have/give an interesting support.

Check out my 3ad about it.

Does anybody has cursor theme from Vista
configured to work under 98SE?
Tihi?

Well, i don't have tool to work with 32-bit ani files and i don't like aero cursor theme.
But i'll check it.

RPLite7 is slowly progressing. Although i don't have time now, main goals have been drawn, and some heavy alpha previews are coming.

How come there's no 2k release yet? I don't care about all these wonderful extra features, 32-bit icons would be enough for me and many others, I think.

Take it easy Dave, don't you think Tihiy wouldn't do anything about it?
Although I think first priority is fixing bugs and to get a better installer. I still think it's Alpha software, certainly not ready for shipping to stores yet.

I'm sorry There were w2k internal builds, although none of them properly worked so i had to froze RP for 2k.

Several pages ago you've said that it is Beta software.
Which bugs you do consider to be major in current RPLite?
[well, not counting translation and terrific installer]

edit: spell

Hello Tihiy,

This is amazing.
BUT , I have a problem with extraction of " docprop.dll "

Please HELP

Ah.
1) Make sure you haven't used 98Lite.
2) Make sure that path you've specified really contains ME files.
3) Try to extract docprop.dll yourself:
run: extrac32 <path to me files>\win_8.cab docprop.dll /A /L C:\
and check if docprop.dll appears in C:\

I understand. Thanks.

Tihiy try to find on net Vista Icon Pack v3.0 for WindowsXP.
U can use all stuff from that package in RPlite7.
Please check it!!!!

I'm using it now on my XP.
And going to use some things for RPLite7, yes.
However, nothing special

Tihiy, could you please modify the default Windows ME shell to be a bit like Vista, at least better than the default line art (cloudy ) now displayed in RPLite 6+?

I'm trying to replace that webview with something proper already for an year.
But i hope soon i'll have something to show...
Some goodies
Add/Remove programs applet sligtly updated
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/programs.zip
- Fixed "Program Folder" link not not working if program path contains comma;
- Minor changes.
IE6 PNG View Fixer <---
This program, attached to this post, patches your pngfilt.dll so when you view png files they show proper window-color background instead of gray or other.
Use: Close IE and launch pngfix.exe!
additional parameters:
[/q] [<path to pngfilt.dll>]
- /q - quiet mode.