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Gape
98 SE SP 3.0 BETA 4 woot.gif

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THIS VERSION IS FOR BETA TESTERS ONLY!

Please, write ANY comment (If it even works properly, write it).

Important notes:
* This version contains patched ESDI_506.PDR, so be careful.
* This version doesn't support uninstallation of "Main Updates".

Test results:
* Freshly installed Win98 SE: OK.
* Freshly installed Win98 SE and IE 6.0 SP1: OK.
* Freshly installed Win98 SE, IE 6.0 SP1 and KernelEx 4: OK.

Special thanks to Tihiy, sleffing, MDGx, erpdude8 and Xeno86.

QUOTE
What's new:
* New/updated file
! New/updated file (unofficial)
+ Minor improvement
x Bugfix
- Information only

3.0 Beta 4

* Updated DHTMLED.OCX [to 6.1.0.9242].
* Updated MSCONV97.DLL and MSWRD832.CNV [to 2003.1100.8166].
* Updated GDIPLUS.DLL [to 5.1.3102.5581].
* Updated CIMWIN32.DLL [to 1.50.0085.59].
* Updated ROOTSUPD.CAB [to 21.0.2195].
* Updated HHCTRL.OCX [to 5.2.3790.4110].
+ Updated README.TXT.
+ Enhanced (again) SPUPDATE.INF to prevent version pop-ups.

3.0 Beta 3

+ Added README.TXT into the package.
* Added MSIMG32.DLL [5.0.2218.1].
* Updated MSVBVM60.DLL [to 6.0.9802].
* Updated OLEAUT32.DLL [to 2.40.4520].
+ Windows Scripting Host is optional with this version.

3.0 Beta 2

* Added Q329048.
* Added MSVCP50.DLL [5.0.7051].
* Added IPROP.DLL [NT4 SP6].
* Added TRIEDIT.DLL [Q891781].
* Updated MSVCRT.DLL, MSVCIRT.DLL, MFC42.DLL and MSVCP60.DLL.
! Updated KRNL386.EXE [to 4.10.2000].
x Fixed LOGO.INF problem.
+ Added MYDOCS.DLL into Windows 2000 Theme.
+ Removes uninstallation information from old USP versions.
+ Enhanced (again) SPUPDATE.INF to prevent version pop-ups.
x Removed SUBASE.INF from SP2.CAB because it breaks slipstreaming.
+ Added T2EMBED registry settings.
+ Added "Andale Mono" font information into WIN.INI.
- Added OK/CANCEL buttons' localization lines into INFEX.INI.

3.0 Beta 1

! Added LLXX's ESDI_506.PDR [48 bit LBA] fix.
! Added Xeno86's VCACHE.VXD fix.
+ Removed "MaxFileCache=393216" tweak.
* Added OLEDLG.DLL [5.0.1601].
* Updated OLEPRO32.DLL, STDOLE2.TLB, ASYCFILT.DLL [to 2.40.4530].
* Updated OLEAUT32.DLL [to 2.40.4519].
* Updated USP10.DLL [to 1.422.3790.3959].
+ Added KB891711, KB918547 files for only WindowsUpdate, but they are not active.
+ Uninstallation support for Windows 2000 Theme.
+ Changed 1024 flags to 1056 to prevent unnecessary popups.
+ Added killing processes (NIRCMD) commands before installation.
- Added WSH.INF, SHELL.INF [into SP2.CAB] for better slipstreaming.
- Moved MSVCP60.DLL, MSVBVM60.DLL, SYSTRAY.EXE and HOTPLUG.DLL from SUPP.CAB to SP2.CAB for better slipstreaming.


Full changelog.
appp
Yammy! thumbup.gif
jimmsta
Ah, good. I was worried about some of the bugs in the 2.1 release thread. Hope this is the end-all solution for 2.1. I'll be testing this as soon as I restore the rest of my programs (reinstalled OS, re-partitioned drives to allow for REAL DOS 7.1 and Win9x installation smile.gif ).
Gape
QUOTE (jimmsta @ Nov 30 2005, 02:52 AM) *
Ah, good. I was worried about some of the bugs in the 2.1 release thread. Hope this is the end-all solution for 2.1. I'll be testing this as soon as I restore the rest of my programs (reinstalled OS, re-partitioned drives to allow for REAL DOS 7.1 and Win9x installation smile.gif ).

In fact, they were not any serious bug in the 2.1, but I want to quickly fix the reported problems.
charles__
I have no problems with 2.1 but will install the newer one. Thanks for the great job you have done Gape.
appp
It's great that SP provides two great PowerToys: CommandPromptHere and TweakUI.

There is one more great tool from the past that I would love to see in SP (optional).
It is WinTop (aka Windows Process Watcher, aka top for windows). It is a part of this package:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloa...Toy/Default.asp

I check that it works and it is a perfect tool to actually see what is actually running.
WebMatze
Hello,

with your version 2.1a i got a problem while installing, before the end of the SP install, Windows tells me that the compobj.dll file has been replaced by an older version, that the file is in use and that windows must restart to repair the problem.
Is it possible to avoid that message to be shown?
Acheron
Great to see the time-stamp stuff fixed in latest version.
Gape
QUOTE (WebMatze @ Nov 30 2005, 06:33 PM) *
with your version 2.1a i got a problem while installing, before the end of the SP install, Windows tells me that the compobj.dll file has been replaced by an older version, that the file is in use and that windows must restart to repair the problem.
Is it possible to avoid that message to be shown?

English SP on a English Win 98 SE?
ivman
QUOTE (appp @ Nov 30 2005, 09:11 AM) *
It's great that SP provides two great PowerToys: CommandPromptHere and TweakUI.

There is one more great tool from the past that I would love to see in SP (optional).
It is WinTop (aka Windows Process Watcher, aka top for windows). It is a part of this package:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloa...Toy/Default.asp

I check that it works and it is a perfect tool to actually see what is actually running.


On the site you gave, it says specifically *not* to use that PowerToy with Win98. Have you had any problems using it with 98SE? Just wondering why they say not to....

ivman
WebMatze
@ gape,

French SP on French Windows 98 SE...

Compobj.dll is english, i didn't find it in french.

To original file is the version 2.3.200.0 and the new one is 2.3.200.1...

any idea?
Gape
QUOTE (WebMatze @ Nov 30 2005, 10:04 PM) *
French SP on French Windows 98 SE...

Compobj.dll is english, i didn't find it in french.

To original file is the version 2.3.200.0 and the new one is 2.3.200.1...

Try this:
COMPOBJ.DLL,,COMPOBJ.TMP,4

Also try to add a line to Copy.Sysbckup:
COMPOBJ.DLL,,,4

Please let me know the result.
WebMatze
I tried to add this line

COMPOBJ.DLL,,COMPOBJ.TMP,4

and the same message is displayed but this time after the reboot,

i will try your second suggestion...
WebMatze
Yes it works with the two lines....

thanks.
Gape
QUOTE (WebMatze @ Nov 30 2005, 10:45 PM) *
Yes it works with the two lines....

Thanks WebMatze. It looks like a language problem. Does anyone have this problem in English Win 98 SE?

@swgreed: It looks like DSOUND.DLL problem is similar. Please, add these two lines for DSOUND.DLL and COMPOBJ.DLL to solve "in use" problems.
WebMatze
THe French version of the Service Pack 2.1a is available on Gravure-hebdo

Bye
fogWraith
And it just works thumbup.gif

Uploaded it to my host, if anyone wants a fast mirror =P
http://www.emulation.dk/repository/exubera.../sesp21a-en.exe
appp
Yes, they say that *not* all W95 KernelToys work on W98.
WinTop *does*.
jimmsta
I've got a strange problem. I've got a Win98SE installation with a previously-applied 98se2me, and the latest (2.1a) SP. For some really strange reason, my double-click function is now pre-set to default to Search, or Find... this is not useful.

Here's a screenshot of the problem:


Also, the My Documents link on the desktop is missing its icon, and WILL NOT launch the correct folder. In this screenshot, you can see that I had to make a shortcut directly to the folder, just to access it.


I'll be trying this out on a vanilla 98SE install, in vmware, as well... This is mearly a heads up for all 98se2me users that haven't updated their copy of 98se2me in a while, and apply this new SP.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the start button/start menu DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. I click the start button, and it stays depressed, but nothing shows up... (as you can see in the above screenshots). Use of TaskManager is the only way to reboot from within the virtual machine.
MDGx
Gape:

I have recently noticed [at least on 1 computer] that "UpdateInis" INF directive works properly only if adding the folder handle name in front of the file(s) to be modified.
Example:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
[DefaultInstall]
UpdateInis=UPDini
[UPDini]
%31%\MSDOS.SYS,Options,,"SystemReg=0"
%31%\WINBOOT.INI,Options,,"SystemReg=0"

as opposite to:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
[DefaultInstall]
UpdateInis=UPDini
[UPDini]
MSDOS.SYS,Options,,"SystemReg=0"
WINBOOT.INI,Options,,"SystemReg=0"

Without "%31%\" setup thinks msdos.sys + winboot.ini are in %windir% [false], not in C:\ root [true]. sad.gif

LDID directory handles for INF files:
CODE
LDID = Logical Disk IDentifier.
Can be one of these values:

00 Null [This LDID can be used to create a new LDID]
01 Source driveletter:\pathname
02 Temp Setup
03 Uninstall
04 Backup
10 Machine (Windows) directory
11 System directory
12 IOSubsys directory
13 Command directory
14 Control Panel
15 Printers
16 Workgroup
17 INF Directory
18 Help directory
19 Administration
20 Fonts
21 Viewers
22 VMM32
23 Color directory
24 Root of drive containing the Windows directory
25 Shared (Windows) directory
26 Guaranteed boot device for Windows (Winboot)
27 Machine
28 Host Winboot
30 Root directory of boot drive
31 Root directory of boot host drive


Hope this helps.


BTW:
I've tried SP 2.1a on 2 different 98SE installations, and worked like a charm.
Excellent job, Gape!
eidenk
I've just installed the service pack (all options but metapad checked) on a fresh Win98SE install under a virtual machine (in QEMU) and I suffer from none of the problems Jimmsta describes above. Everything works as normal.

Very nice service pack by the way.

I also think that Wintop from the win95 kernel toys should be included. Maybe also the Timezone Editor and the DOS Mode Configuration Wizard.
MDGx
QUOTE (jimmsta @ Nov 30 2005, 06:25 PM)
I've got a strange problem. I've got a Win98SE installation with a previously-applied 98se2me, and the latest (2.1a) SP. For some really strange reason, my double-click function is now pre-set to default to Search, or Find... this is not useful.

Also, the My Documents link on the desktop is missing its icon, and WILL NOT launch the correct folder. In this screenshot, you can see that I had to make a shortcut directly to the folder, just to access it.

I'll be trying this out on a vanilla 98SE install, in vmware, as well... This is mearly a heads up for all 98se2me users that haven't updated their copy of 98se2me in a while, and apply this new SP.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the start button/start menu DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. I click the start button, and it stays depressed, but nothing shows up... (as you can see in the above screenshots). Use of TaskManager is the only way to reboot from within the virtual machine.
I had experienced this a while back with 98SE2ME [this used to be a problem only with option 3 if I recall correctly], but it has been fixed.

Please re-install 98SE2ME after you have installed SP 2.1a.
98SE2ME:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46349

I don't know if SP 2.1a needs [or not] to be fixed/changed, that is a question for Gape.

Hope this helps.
Petr
Just tip for cleaning up the code ()

The following lines have exactly the same result in [AddReg.Something] sections of INF files:

HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,00001024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,00001024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"0x00000400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"0x400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"00,04,00,00"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"1024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"00001024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","0x00000400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","0x400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","00,04,00,00"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","1024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","00001024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00001024
I have read (not tested) that for Windows 95 is the correct syntax only:
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00,04,00,00


In SPUPDATE.INF are combined various syntaxes.

Petr
Petr
Just in case this forum is read by some people from Czech Republic - beta version is here: http://www.winpack.org/nsp_petr/sesp21cs-beta4.exe and Czech discussion forum is here http://www.macich.net/winarna/viewforum.php?f=27

Petr
bristols
I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.

This is partly because I am confused (still) about what the pack includes and what it doesn't include. For example, quoting from Gape's site, he says:

QUOTE
It contains only operating system updates. It does NOT contain Internet Explorer 6, DirectX 9, Media Player 9 and their updates.


But the pack does contain some IE updates, doesn't it? For instance, new in 2.1a is Q885836 (MSWRD632.WPC), which, as I understand it, is an IE6 SP1 update.

Edit: oops - my mistake. It's not. For some reason, I mistook it for 885258. I'm not sure why, heh. But nevertheless: does the pack now contain some IE updates (e.g, 903235)?

Clasys recently mentioned a list (that he either has, or is making) of all IE updates (IE6 SP1 specifically I think - correct me if I'm wrong). Sharing this, combined with a list of all the updates in 2.1a, would be extremely helpful to everyone concerned, I think.

Although I am a relative newbie in all this, I have also just begun compiling my own lists. If I get the time and they turn out to be comprehensive enough (or at least a bit useful), I will post these online somewhere.

P.S. - thanks Gape, Petr and everyone else concerned for your dedication, skill and generosity in preparing these packs.
swgreed
QUOTE (Gape @ Nov 30 2005, 09:06 PM) *
@swgreed: It looks like DSOUND.DLL problem is similar. Please, add these two lines for DSOUND.DLL and COMPOBJ.DLL to solve "in use" problems.


It actually was similar smile.gif
added additionally:
CODE
[Copy.System]
DSOUND.DLL,,DSOUND.TMP,4
[Copy.Sysbckup]
DSOUND.DLL,,,4


and it installs perfectly.
Petr
QUOTE (bristols @ Dec 1 2005, 09:53 PM) *
I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.


You already have the complete list in SPUPDATE.INF file + WBEM updates, Q313829, Q329414, CRL update, root certificates update, MS Installer 2.0, Windows Script 5.6. What you are missing?

Or the list like: Q172733, Q180071, Q192425, Q196208, Q212265, Q236926, Q237493, Q239696, Q239887, Q240075, Q240163, Q240308, Q240896, Q241052, Q242004, Q242193, Q242975, Q243320, Q243450, Q243638, Q244357, Q244540, Q245065, Q245272, Q245682, Q246094, Q246387, Q246817, Q249146, Q249635, Q249973, Q250514, Q250876, Q253697, Q253711, Q254660, Q257360, Q257821, Q258680, Q258765, Q259253, Q259728, Q262232, Q263044, Q266772, Q267304, Q268064, Q269239, Q269601, Q269604, Q269874, Q270063, Q271701, Q272621, Q273017, Q273727, Q274113, Q274175, Q274370, Q274548, Q275873, Q277628, Q278033, Q278368, Q280448, Q281533, Q282949, Q283032, Q284837, Q285189, Q285895, Q288430, Q288550, Q289635, Q290831, Q290887, Q291362, Q292539, Q293197, Q293818, Q295629, Q305037, Q306453, Q306889, Q307004, Q308349, Q309081, Q310695, Q311430, Q311561, Q313829, Q314147, Q314941, Q315575, Q317796, Q318307, Q319303, Q319571, Q320798, Q321467, Q323172, Q323455, Q323708, Q327517, Q329414, Q811630, Q813432, Q835732, Q835935, Q870669, Q885836, Q887616, Q888113, Q891711, Q891781, Q892211, Q896358, Q903235, ie55sp2, ie60sp1, rootsupd, scr56, unicows, vcredist would better suits your needs?

And regarding IE6.0SP1 - AFAIK there are only few relevat fixes at present:

KB896688 - MS05-052: Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer
BROWSEUI.DLL 6.0.2800.1692
CDFVIEW.DLL 6.0.2800.1612
DANIM.DLL 6.3.1.147
DXTRANS.DLL 6.3.2800.1520
IEPEERS.DLL 6.0.2800.1497
INSENG.DLL 6.0.2800.1475
MSHTML.DLL 6.0.2800.1523
MSRATING.DLL 6.0.2800.1623
MSTIME.DLL 6.0.2800.1520
PNGFILT.DLL 6.0.2800.1506
SHDOCVW.DLL 6.0.2800.1692
SHLWAPI.DLL 6.0.2800.1740
URLMON.DLL 6.0.2800.1520
WININET.DLL 6.0.2800.1512

and for components related to IE
KB833989 - MS04-028: Buffer Overrun in JPEG Processing (GDI+) Could Allow Code Execution
VGX.DLL 6.0.2800.1411

KB903235 - MS05-037: Vulnerability in JView Profiler could allow remote code execution
(just adds one killbit to the registry)

KB837009 - MS04-013: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
DIRECTDB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
INETCOMM.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
INETRES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSIDENT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSIMN.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
MSOE.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
MSOEACCT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSOERES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSOERT2.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEIMPORT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEMIG50.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
OEMIGLIB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEUNINST.EXE 6.0.2800.1223
OEUPDATE.EXE 6.0.2800.1276
WAB.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
WAB32.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
WABFIND.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
WABIMP.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
WABMIG.EXE 6.0.2800.1123

and maybe also
KB891781 - MS05-013: Vulnerability in the DHTML editing component ActiveX control could allow code execution
DHTMLED.OCX 6.1.0.9231

Are there any other relevant fixes that should be applied?

Petr
eidenk
QUOTE
Are there any other relevant fixes that should be applied?

Yes, there are probably a few Media Player 6.4 fixes :

wm320920_64 msdxm.ocx 6.4.9.1124 dxmasf.dll 6.4.9.1121
KB832353 msdxm.ocx 6.4.7.1129
wm324178 mpg4ds32.ax 7.10.0.3069
k.eight.a
Hi! welcome.gif
I new to this board and I have a few simple questions...

1) What are the differences among those patches for W98 that can be found in the sticky threads...? blink.gif

98 SE SP 2.1a
98SE2ME: ME -> 98 SE Killer Replacements
Windows 98 Revolutions Pack Lite
Installation Guide for Win98 SE SP 2.0
Service pack for Windows 98 Standard (First, Gold)
...and the alternative USB driver Maximus Decim Native USB ver.2.2

2) Is it possible to include all of those updates into an instalation CD of W98 se? If yes, how? unsure.gif

3) What do you recommend me to try out first? Unfortunately I don't enough time to inspect all of the possibilities right now but I'm in hurry, to instal a brand new instalation of W98 to my friends computer so I want to gain some of the advantages that are presented here! newwink.gif
Gape
QUOTE (k.eight.a @ Dec 2 2005, 05:47 PM) *

In fact, the first (98 SE SP) is the main product of this forum smile.gif

98 SE SP 2.1a: Win98 Second Edition Service Pack, contains 120+ fixes and some tweaks for Win98 SE.
98SE2ME: It copies some Win ME files into Win98 SE. Requires Win ME CD.
Win 98 Rev. Pack: It enhances Win98 SE visually and adds some new features such as New Task Manager.
Installation Guide: Installation order of these products.
Maximus-Decim NUSB: Generic USB driver for mass storage devices such as USB flash disks.
winxpi
I read about the 98SE SP 2.1 on Pcwelt and also heared that the Windows 98 Upgrade Pack has been updated.
swgreed
By the way: the German Version 2.1a is available (see my signature)

In its actual issue, the German magazine "PC-WELT" rated the "unofficial Win98 SE SP 2.0.2" TOP 14 out of the 100 best free- and shareware tools thumbup.gif
bristols
QUOTE (Petr @ Dec 2 2005, 08:15 AM) *
QUOTE (bristols @ Dec 1 2005, 09:53 PM) *

I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.


You already have the complete list in SPUPDATE.INF file + WBEM updates, Q313829, Q329414, CRL update, root certificates update, MS Installer 2.0, Windows Script 5.6.


Thanks a lot Petr for pointing this out to me.

I'm at that stage in my knowledge where I know little, but enough to have lots of "But what if/why/how...?" kind of questions that I know will usually annoy more knowledgeable people. newwink.gif I'm doing my best to answer these questions myself, but so far my efforts are causing me to have more confusion than useful knowledge.

My main concern is to have a fully-patched/updated 98SE, including a fully-patched IE6 SP1. Of course, luckily for us all, the Service Pack does much to achieve this. But I still have lots of questions: about the best installation order to get the most out of the pack IF one wants a system with all or many of the various add-ons, such as MSXML 4.0 SP2, MDAC; about exactly what IE updates to install before installing SP2.1a; about whether the latest IE cumulative update actually replaces all prior IE updates, or whether one needs to install some updates or every update that was released for IE6 SP1 for a complete installation. So, as you can see, a lot of questions, most of which belong in other threads, and most of which I have no doubt are just annoying to most people for whom the answers are already clear. newwink.gif

By the way, just as a matter of interest, I recorded all the KB numbers that Maximus-Decim's Cumulative Update installs, and which SP2.1a does not. Now, I realise that a lot of those updates in MD's pack have been superceded by newer updates, which explains the absence of those older updates in Gape's pack. But still, would it serve any purpose if I posted this list? Personally I doubt it, but I ask simply because I do not know in detail which updates in MD's pack have been superceded and which updates have been left out for some other reason (that a hotfix is badly-written and causes more problems than it is worth, for example).

Ok, now I will stop hogging this thread. yes.gif
erpdude8
QUOTE (eidenk @ Nov 30 2005, 08:17 PM) *
I've just installed the service pack (all options but metapad checked) on a fresh Win98SE install under a virtual machine (in QEMU) and I suffer from none of the problems Jimmsta describes above. Everything works as normal.

Very nice service pack by the way.

I also think that Wintop from the win95 kernel toys should be included. Maybe also the Timezone Editor and the DOS Mode Configuration Wizard.


Wintop? nah. too cumbersome. Timezone editor? ok but use the one included on the win98 cd. DOS mode config wizard? only if you use a lot of DOS programs, otherwise, leave it out of the pack?

QUOTE (bristols @ Dec 1 2005, 02:53 PM) *
But the pack does contain some IE updates, doesn't it? For instance, new in 2.1a is Q885836 (MSWRD632.WPC), which, as I understand it, is an IE6 SP1 update.



WRONG, bristols!!!! Q885836 is NOT an IE6 SP1 update. It's a Wordpad security update. See Microsoft Security bulletin MS04-041 and Microsoft KB article 885836:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms04-041.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885836

The 98se pack contains some IE 5.x updates; updates for the built-in IE 5.0 browser originally included in Win98 SE.
appp
QUOTE (erpdude8 @ Dec 3 2005, 04:04 PM) *
Wintop? nah. too cumbersome. Timezone editor? ok but use the one included on the win98 cd. DOS mode config wizard? only if you use a lot of DOS programs, otherwise, leave it out of the pack?


WinTop is too cumbersome? Do you consider 17,408 *bytes* cumbersome?
Win98 deserves what NT and descendants had forever - a decent Task Monitor, which WinTop is.

What is the point of including Tz editor from win98 Resource Kit, if it is available to anyone who has the cd? It does not improve/fix the cd.
bristols
QUOTE (erpdude8 @ Dec 4 2005, 12:04 AM) *
WRONG, bristols!!!! Q885836 is NOT an IE6 SP1 update. It's a Wordpad security update.


Heh, erpdude, if you read directly underneath where I made that statement about Q885836, you will see that I did correct my mistake with an edit. But thank you for making the identity of Q885836 even clearer. newwink.gif

Incidentally, while I'm here and, really for any other less experienced users, I found an authoritative and at least 'official' account of how to regard updates for IE, particularly cumulative ones, here:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=42259

Most of the explanation was given by the indefatigable MDGx (try saying that after a pint or three newwink.gif ), but also by your good self, erpdude. smile.gif

I say 'official', because, generally-speaking again as I understand it, M$ IE and generally Windows updates have a history of being incomplete, broken or otherwise badly-written, shifty, elusive, hard-to-find, and otherwise inexplicable in terms of the effect that updates here and there can have on each other. I'm still just learning here, but it does seem fair to say that the story of the mutual compatibility and comprehensiveness of IE updates is not an easily-understood, clear and distinct one.

Perhaps I am WRONG! smile.gif
Petr
Here is the first beta version for people using Slovak version of Windows 98 SE:

http://rapidshare.de/files/8631011/sesp21sk-beta1.exe.html

Support forum here: http://www.macich.net/winarna/viewtopic.php?t=393

Petr
erpdude8
Gape,

The Unofficial Win98 SE service pack version 2.1a is NOT posted at the Majorgeeks.com site.
they still have the original version 2.1 file [sesp21en.exe] even though they say they have
version 2.1a. The newer one [sesp21a-en.exe] was posted at the Softpedia.com, Rapidshare,
Mytempdir.com and Freeware Files.com sites but not Majorgeeks.
MDGx
MajorGeeks just posted SP 2.1a today, 12-5-2005 [I guess the news got to them late sad.gif]:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4131.html
pykor
How come when I use Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit (version 7.0t), it says the SP21 has failed verification. Is this because Advisor doesn't know that everything is bundled into one component?

DataAccess
no verification data Q329414-21 on 11/6/05 (details...)

Internet Explorer
no verification data SP1 (SP1)
no verification data Q240308 (details...)
no verification data Q313829 (details...)
no verification data Q328389 (details...)

Win98.SE
passed verification UPD263044 (details...)

Win98SE.SP2
passed verification SP21ASPI (Adaptec ASPI 4.6)
failed verification SP21CORE (uSP 2.1 for Windows 98 SE) Reinstall!
passed verification SP21NOVER (Files with no version information)
passed verification SP21SCR56 (Windows Script 5.6)
passed verification SP21TWUI (Tweak UI)
passed verification SP21WBEM15 (WBEM 1.5 updates)
Petr
QUOTE (pykor @ Dec 6 2005, 04:19 AM) *
How come when I use Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit (version 7.0t), it says the SP21 has failed verification. Is this because Advisor doesn't know that everything is bundled into one component?

DataAccess
no verification data Q329414-21 on 11/6/05 (details...)

Internet Explorer
no verification data SP1 (SP1)
no verification data Q240308 (details...)
no verification data Q313829 (details...)
no verification data Q328389 (details...)

Win98.SE
passed verification UPD263044 (details...)

Win98SE.SP2
passed verification SP21ASPI (Adaptec ASPI 4.6)
failed verification SP21CORE (uSP 2.1 for Windows 98 SE) Reinstall!
passed verification SP21NOVER (Files with no version information)
passed verification SP21SCR56 (Windows Script 5.6)
passed verification SP21TWUI (Tweak UI)
passed verification SP21WBEM15 (WBEM 1.5 updates)


You have probably installed my QFE data, right? Belarc Advisor just takes the information from registry, like QFECheck does, and as I wrote as a comment to the QFE.INF, missing files are OK because many files are installed only if they already exist.

Petr
erpdude8
QUOTE (MDGx @ Dec 5 2005, 03:34 PM) *
MajorGeeks just posted SP 2.1a today, 12-5-2005 [I guess the news got to them late sad.gif]:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4131.html


thanks. I found that out in the morning. Good thing I downloaded the 2.1a pack at Freeware Files.com site
and then I checked back at the Majorgeeks.com site in the afternoon and they did post up the 2.1a pack there.

Better late and never, I guess.

Inclusions I like to see in the next release of the 98se pack:

-unofficial win98 Krnl386.exe 4.10.1999 patch [fixes a bug in that file that microsoft forgot to patch]

-unofficial win98 voltrack.vxd 4.10.1999 patch [fixes a bug in that file that microsoft could not fix]

-unofficial win98se update.sys 4.10.2223 patch

-Metapad version 3.51 (now latest version)
pykor
Thanks for the explanation Petr.

Now .... next questions .....

________________________________________________
Does the 98SESP2.1a include updates to MDAC???

What version of MDAC ships with Win98SE install CD?

If I install the upgrade MDAC 2.8 --> BEFORE <-- I install the Service Pack, will I get the patch Q329414?

Which is better .... the Q329414 package or the MDAC upgrade?

Can Win98 handle the newer MDAC?


________________________________________________
MS02-065: Buffer overrun in Microsoft Data Access Components can lead to code execution.

Notice
The vulnerability does not affect Microsoft Windows XP, although Windows XP uses Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0. By default, Windows XP installs Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.7. MDAC 2.7 is not affected.
Petr
QUOTE (pykor @ Dec 6 2005, 10:29 PM) *
Does the 98SESP2.1a include updates to MDAC???

It contains:
Msadco.dll 2.12.5118.0
Msadcs.dll 2.12.5118.0
from Q329414 update.
QUOTE
What version of MDAC ships with Win98SE install CD?
Version 2.1 although I'm not sure if it is complete.
QUOTE
If I install the upgrade MDAC 2.8 --> BEFORE <-- I install the Service Pack, will I get the patch Q329414?

Q329414 patch updates MDAC 2.1, 2.5 and 2.6 files only.
QUOTE
Which is better .... the Q329414 package or the MDAC upgrade?
I have no idea, it depends on your needs.
QUOTE
Can Win98 handle the newer MDAC?

As you can read here: Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 SP1:
Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 98; Windows ME; Windows NT

Petr
pykor
QUOTE (Petr @ Dec 6 2005, 05:40 PM) *
Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 98; Windows ME; Windows NT
Thanks Petr .... just found the info on the website:

Release version number
MDAC 2.8 SP1 (2.81.1117.6), May 2005

Minimum supported configuration
• Microsoft Windows 98 with the Y2K Update 2 and Internet Explorer 5.01
• Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition and Internet Explorer 5.01
• Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition and Internet Explorer 5.01
• Microsoft Windows NT 4 Service Pack 5 (SP5) or a later version, and Internet Explorer 5.01
• Microsoft Windows 2000
shaddam
bug report for 2.1a GERMAN:

- wordpad don't crash anymore one some doc files (like in version 2.x) --> good
- but now the pulldown menu for the font size is empty, but the font size is changeable through the edit field
swgreed
QUOTE (shaddam @ Dec 7 2005, 03:55 PM) *
the pulldown menu for the font size is empty, but the font size is changeable through the edit field


anybody else, who can confim this? This issue does not seem to appear here
did you comply with the install guide?
os2fan2
A possibility for inclusion is win95cmd.exe, as cmd.exe. This is handy if you have multi-boot with Win9x and Win2k. Available in NT4 and NT2k flavours.

W
plop
Sorry to bother you but when installing 2.1a over the earlier 98SE Service Pack plus a current 98SE2ME, I get a total of 38 file version conflict messages to which I so far have responded to 'keep my existing version'.

Should I change my 'newer' and currently installed files to those included in 2.1a?

My thanks and best regards to Gape, and to MDGx,
eidenk
@plop : You should install 98SP before installing 98SE2ME. I believe that those messages are normal due to the fact that many 98SE2ME files are of a superior version than upated 98SE files. Wait for confirmation of that by Gape or MDGx.




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