Shark007
Jan 14 2006, 12:47 PM
You can easily modify this released installer by REPLACING any current file with newer or patched file(s). To update this installer take the newer/patched files from an already installed machine and replace the files in this package. This installer uses WinRAR. This installer is SVCPACK compatible.
This updated installer uses the original MSI to perform the installation and is English Only.
For languages other than English, download the tutorial at the bottom of this post.
Downloads are on my repository(s)
the following is not difficult to do
If you would like to modify messenger's msi in your own language for use in a deployment scenario
or the creation of an AIP (which is what i use to create the editable installers) get the attached tutorial.
The tutorial applies to ALL languages.
only logged in users may download the tutorial
Ðrзω™
Feb 11 2006, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Feb 11 2006, 06:33 PM)

Updated to v8.0.562
shark
appreciated m8, means i can add this to my unattended cd next week for when new comp arrives
elajua
Mar 1 2006, 01:45 AM
just one question. is not that im knocking your installer off but is there a point to make this installer since you can unpack the msi from the original installer and use msi siwtches?
i mean, if there is nothing more than the absence of swithces i dont see a point here. just wondering why a switchless insteller, no offense.
BoardBabe
Mar 1 2006, 09:21 AM
Yeh, /qn on the msi should work fine.
bledd
Mar 1 2006, 09:43 AM
wicked, now i'll use
apatch to remove the crap like adverts, winks, nudges, games, activities and i'll repack it
BoardBabe
Mar 1 2006, 05:46 PM
Do you mind explaining how to add my own custom settings with apatch?
I tried to install with the original msi file using /qn switch and then SFX extract the messenger .exe after installation (.exe copied from prev. install with apatch). Used this method for MSN messenger 7.5 but didnt work. Any idea?
Shark007
Mar 1 2006, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (BoardBabe @ Mar 1 2006, 06:46 PM)

Do you mind explaining how to add my own custom settings with apatch?
1st download and install Live Messenger. Next get
Apatch (google it) or similar software and with messenger NOT loaded, use Apatch on your current installation. Be sure to choose 'backup files' so that the original files are marked .bak. Then go to the installation directory and copy the patched files (you'll know which are patched because the originals are now .bak). Decompress my installer and overwrite the existing files in my installer with the patched ones. re-create the 7zip sfx exe , and use it in your uA media.
Disclaimer: Patching MSN Messenger infringes on Microsoft's
Terms of Use. Using Apatch is your own rational choice and I nor MSFN are responsible for your choice in any way.
shark
Shark007
Mar 1 2006, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (BoardBabe @ Mar 1 2006, 07:42 PM)

Why would it not work to install using .msi /qn and then SFX those .bak files back to installdir? (ofcourse without .bak extension)
The bak files are the originals. copying them over wont get you a patched copy.
You can easily use the original installer and after its installed overwrite installed files with patched files. I assume the original will allow /qn etc. i have not tested this though. The only reason i can see this scenario failing is that Messenger is loaded and you cant overwite loaded files.
QUOTE (BoardBabe @ Mar 1 2006, 07:42 PM)

Never mind, thank you for the help..... Got it...
Ok.. i'm never minding.
shark
elajua
Mar 1 2006, 10:37 PM
just dont get why the switchless yet, but nevermind. thanks anyway for providing it for ppl interested.
to apply a-patch patches files just take the patched files from installed live messenger folder. look for the files with .bak extensions, the new ones with .exe are the ones to be included in a sfx archive. just extract them and overwrite the files after the msi with /qn or this switchless setup from shark.
this way works great for the new version and the one before this one. i have tested it successfully.
Shark007
Mar 2 2006, 09:43 AM
QUOTE (elajua @ Mar 1 2006, 11:37 PM)

just dont get why the switchless yet, but nevermind. thanks anyway for providing it for ppl interested.
The main focus of MSFN (correct me if i'm wrong) is unattended windows installations. A switchless installer is very useful for these types of installations because no user interaction is required.
shark
elajua
Mar 2 2006, 05:46 PM
QUOTE
The main focus of MSFN (correct me if i'm wrong) is unattended windows installations. A switchless installer is very useful for these types of installations because no user interaction is required.
i thought that switchless installers came into play when an installer cant be executed silently. so i never use a switchless installer unless a setup cant be launched silently. i asked before because i was curious.
@boardbabe: it happens all the time. some days are like being a zombie at the computer without being conscious on what we're doing lol
Shark007
May 6 2006, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (bledd @ May 6 2006, 04:41 AM)

should this work with build 689?
There have been major changes since i last made an installer for this requiring me to update the entire package. Also included is a link to my Ink Installer which enables the Handwriting TAB. Updated to 8.0.0689 on May 6th, 2006
shark
Grake
Jun 10 2006, 02:04 PM
Just like to say my thanks

Worked perfectly.
Jedi82
Jun 24 2006, 10:07 AM
guys but, if i install unattended way the new msn messenger and then apply the reg file generated by the mess.be patch isn't the same a good way to modify msn?
sk8er_boi
Jun 24 2006, 10:21 AM
QUOTE (Jedi82 @ Jun 24 2006, 10:07 AM)

guys but, if i install unattended way the new msn messenger and then apply the reg file generated by the mess.be patch isn't the same a good way to modify msn?
No u must replace patched msnmsgr.exe an mslang.dll too.
ZileXa
Jun 24 2006, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (elajua @ Mar 2 2006, 05:37 AM)

i thought that switchless installers came into play when an installer cant be executed silently. so i never use a switchless installer unless a setup cant be launched silently. i asked before because i was curious.
I don't use custom made installers either unless a setup can't be launched silently. I also have the patched files in an archive 7z file (together with a lot more). But this switchless installer is very nice. I don't use it for my uA, the 7z file is easier to update with the new patched files, but this installer is easy to send my own patched Messenger to friends and family

QUOTE (TiQz @ Jun 24 2006, 11:56 AM)

Here It Is... The Silent Switchless Installer for Windows Live Messenger 8.0.792
http://rapidshare.de/files/23968747/MSNMessenger.exeIt's called MSNMessenger.. but I am sure you mean Windows Live Messenger

BTW, is this the same as Shark007's switchless installer that allows you to replace the files with the A-Patched files?
EDIT: nope it isn't.. I don't know why you created this? It's identical to official installer with /qn or /qb.
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jan 14 2006, 07:47 PM)

This switchless installer is an editable package of Windows Live Messenger. (currently beta) v8.0.689 - DO NOT install this @ T-13/12/9 or the uninstall function will be broken.
You can easily upgrade this installer by REPLACING any current file with newer or hacked file(s). To update this installer take the newer/hacked files from an already installed machine and replace the files in this package. Re-create the 7zip selfextract exe using the /qb switch.
My updated release of an editable installer that you can substitute your hack files into wont be available till June 24.
shark
It is June 24
Shark007
Jun 25 2006, 06:57 AM
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jun 24 2006, 12:24 PM)

It is June 24

And now its the 25th, and its still not ready. This final version has some new 'quirks' not so easily ironed out. I'm working on it, and will keep you informed as to its availability.
shark
Shark007
Jun 25 2006, 11:26 AM
Updated to version 8.0.792
shark
ZileXa
Jun 25 2006, 01:36 PM
Thanks a lot! Just tested, seems to work fine just installing it normally.
Doesn't create shortcuts though... you can use the newest modified 7zS.sfx to do this. I added the 7zS.sfx and config.txt (for the Create_New_Installer.7z files) if you want to use it. Also this 7zS.sfx doesn't need msistub.exe anymore. But maybe it is necessary when installed from svcpack and that might be the reason you included it

check my new post for updated version.
Shark007
Jun 25 2006, 03:25 PM
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jun 25 2006, 03:36 PM)

Doesn't create shortcuts though...
On all my tests, shortcuts are created on the desktop and in the quicklaunch.
shark
atomicrabbit
Jun 26 2006, 01:01 PM
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jun 25 2006, 05:25 PM)

QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jun 25 2006, 03:36 PM)

Doesn't create shortcuts though...
On all my tests, shortcuts are created on the desktop and in the quicklaunch.
shark
I can verify that it does
not create shortcuts. Also, I followed yor instructons to overwrite the files from your installer with my own patched files, and when I start up messenger (after everything is isntalled), it is not patched. Any ideas??
larciel
Jun 26 2006, 03:58 PM
shortcuts: confirmed in desktop& quick launch
patch: confirmed
followed the read me file. very nicely done. thanks
sk8er_boi
Jun 26 2006, 06:37 PM
Latest version of turkish msn messenger is 787. Does this installation works? I think there's some dll files named by version.
ZileXa
Jun 27 2006, 04:29 AM
perhaps the shortcut thing depends on the language of Windows.. cos they are really not created here. With the 7zS.sfx I use in the attached file of my previous post it creates the shortcut independently of the language... only set it to create the startmenu shortcut.
Jedi82
Jun 27 2006, 12:19 PM
Shark, if i want to make an italian unattended installation of live msn, when you say "Place your patched files into the extracted package overwriting the existing files" ok easy but can i replace these files in italian language on your installation?
Shark007
Jun 27 2006, 02:49 PM
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jun 27 2006, 05:29 AM)

perhaps the shortcut thing depends on the language of Windows.. cos they are really not created here. With the 7zS.sfx I use in the attached file of my previous post it creates the shortcut independently of the language... only set it to create the startmenu shortcut.
QUOTE
Shark, if i want to make an italian unattended installation of live msn, when you say "Place your patched files into the extracted package overwriting the existing files" ok easy but can i replace these files in italian language on your installation?
This installer was designed using the ENGLISH version. I doubt it supports other languages since there is a different download available for each language.
shark
sk8er_boi
Jun 28 2006, 06:36 AM
Can we beg for multilingual versions?
I'll supply requried files for turkish if u wanti
Shark007
Jun 28 2006, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (cihatkarli @ Jun 28 2006, 07:36 AM)

Can we beg for multilingual versions? I'll supply requried files for turkish if u wanti
I have no idea if what i am about to suggest will work, but it is worth a try for non english users. 1st of all, the files MUST have the same filename as the files already in my installer. Next, replace ALL the files in the installer with your localized versions. Repack it, and try it.
shark
sk8er_boi
Jun 29 2006, 07:20 AM
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jun 28 2006, 10:17 AM)

QUOTE (cihatkarli @ Jun 28 2006, 07:36 AM)

Can we beg for multilingual versions? I'll supply requried files for turkish if u wanti
I have no idea if what i am about to suggest will work, but it is worth a try for non english users. 1st of all, the files MUST have the same filename as the files already in my installer. Next, replace ALL the files in the installer with your localized versions. Repack it, and try it.
shark
Unfortuneately there's no 792 version fot turkish. And we have only 787. And when i copy my files to your installer, And run the setup i got errors about 4 errors for
msgsc.8.0.0792.00.dll
msgrapp.8.0.0792.00.dll
fsshext.8.0.0792.00.dll
psmsong.8.0.0792.00.dll .
So i request a simple task. Rename those 792's to 787. And i think turkish installer will work.
Thank you for all your effors.
Shark007
Jun 29 2006, 09:16 AM
removed
shark
sk8er_boi
Jun 29 2006, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jun 29 2006, 09:16 AM)

QUOTE (cihatkarli @ Jun 29 2006, 09:20 AM)

So i request a simple task. Rename those 792's to 787. And i think turkish installer will work. Thank you for all your effors.
Here is a modified MSI for ver 787 files. good luck .
modified msishark
Oh thanx. I'll try it when i get to my pc
Sonic
Jul 8 2006, 04:19 PM
removed ... I have created a new post for my problem ...
ZileXa
Jul 8 2006, 04:56 PM
QUOTE (Jedi82 @ Jun 27 2006, 08:19 PM)

Shark, if i want to make an italian unattended installation of live msn, when you say "Place your patched files into the extracted package overwriting the existing files" ok easy but can i replace these files in italian language on your installation?
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jun 27 2006, 10:49 PM)

QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jun 27 2006, 05:29 AM)

perhaps the shortcut thing depends on the language of Windows.. cos they are really not created here. With the 7zS.sfx I use in the attached file of my previous post it creates the shortcut independently of the language... only set it to create the startmenu shortcut.
QUOTE
Shark, if i want to make an italian unattended installation of live msn, when you say "Place your patched files into the extracted package overwriting the existing files" ok easy but can i replace these files in italian language on your installation?
This installer was designed using the ENGLISH version. I doubt it supports other languages since there is a different download available for each language.
shark
QUOTE (cihatkarli @ Jun 28 2006, 02:36 PM)

Can we beg for multilingual versions?
I'll supply requried files for turkish if u wanti
QUOTE (Shark007 @ Jun 28 2006, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE (cihatkarli @ Jun 28 2006, 07:36 AM)

Can we beg for multilingual versions? I'll supply requried files for turkish if u wanti
I have no idea if what i am about to suggest will work, but it is worth a try for non english users. 1st of all, the files MUST have the same filename as the files already in my installer. Next, replace ALL the files in the installer with your localized versions. Repack it, and try it.
shark

I always use the Dutch (NL) version of the Messenger. Sharks patchable installer works perfectly with it

I ONLY replaced the files patched by A-PATCH! So I am pretty sure the only language-dependent file(s) is one of those.
and with the 7z sfx I attached previously it works just fine.
Thanks Shark007!
Solid as a rock
Jul 9 2006, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jul 8 2006, 11:56 PM)


I always use the Dutch (NL) version of the Messenger. Sharks patchable installer works perfectly with it

I ONLY replaced the files patched by A-PATCH! So I am pretty sure the only language-dependent file(s) is one of those.
and with the 7z sfx I attached previously it works just fine.
Thanks Shark007!

I have a own SFX-installer. It always works (7.5 and lower) but now with WML things are changed? I have 2 patched files msnmsgr.exe and msnmsgr.dll and run the msnmsgr.msi with the /QN switch. After this all i click at messenger and get a error. "Cant find msncore.dll". Copy that file over wont fix the problem.
I know you did it with a 7z installer, but i am really curious why my way doesnt work anymore? Do i need to install the "wllogin.msi" too?
Solid as a rock
Jul 10 2006, 05:40 AM
QUOTE (Solid as a rock @ Jul 10 2006, 03:26 AM)

QUOTE (ZileXa @ Jul 8 2006, 11:56 PM)


I always use the Dutch (NL) version of the Messenger. Sharks patchable installer works perfectly with it

I ONLY replaced the files patched by A-PATCH! So I am pretty sure the only language-dependent file(s) is one of those.
and with the 7z sfx I attached previously it works just fine.
Thanks Shark007!

I have a own SFX-installer. It always works (7.5 and lower) but now with WML things are changed? I have 2 patched files msnmsgr.exe and msnmsgr.dll and run the msnmsgr.msi with the /QN switch. After this all i click at messenger and get a error. "Cant find msncore.dll". Copy that file over wont fix the problem.
I know you did it with a 7z installer, but i am really curious why my way doesnt work anymore? Do i need to install the "wllogin.msi" too?
I have give shark way a try. I really dont understand it at all. First, in the small downloadpackage there is talking about replacing files. The 7z file is empty. Maybe Shark is talking about the other bigger package. CHanging it with winrar isnt possible, so i choose to extract. The messlive.msi must be overwritten to get a dutch version i understand from ZileXa post. But the messlive.msi is 500 KB and the dutch msnmsgr.msi is 1500 KB? I thought i only need to rename the file but the size of it let me make unsure that i am on the right way.
So Zilexa, please enlighten me....
ZileXa
Jul 10 2006, 08:21 AM
HOW-TO create your own NON-English Live Messenger Installer, patched.
- First download & install the Messenger of YOUR language (NON-English). Make sure it is the same version as Shark007's installer.
- Apply A-Patch, COPY the patched files (you'll recognize them because there are .BAK backup files of them.)
- Download Shark007's pack.
Just follow his instructions:
- extract his messlive.exe file to a Folder.
- now PASTE the patched files to the correct location in this Folder (Folder\Program Files\MSN Messenger)
- For this SFX you don't need the file MSISTUB.exe so delete this file.
--> Select all files and folders in Folder and create a 7z compact archive.
- Download CreateSFX.7z. and extract it to Folder.
- Modify config.txt to your needs*.
Then run CreateInstaller.cmd. Your own MessLive.exe will be created !
(optional) modify the icon using Reshacker (do this before upx)
(optional) then run CompressInstaller.cmd to UPX compress the 7z.sfx in your created installer (saves 50 KB or so..).
*Open the config.txt file. It is set to:
when the created installer is double-clicked, you'll see a small window with containing the text that I wrote under
Beginprompt and a Yes and No button. When Yes is pressed,
RunProgram will run. With the
-gm2 -ai switch this installer will run completely silent (it will run the command under
Autoinstall) without progressbar or any other window. This is identical to the
Windows Live Messenger - AdFree version One-Click installer I created (Dutch).
You can change the config.txt to make a completely silent (switchless) installer without the prompt:
Remove the Beginprompt and AutoInstall completely and set Guimode to "2". change the command under Runprogram to /QN. That's all. You can modify or Delete Helptext.
Jedi82
Jul 12 2006, 01:16 AM
wow, tnx for this mini tutorial, i will try it soon and tell you!!!
Solid as a rock
Jul 12 2006, 02:36 AM
Do someone know the best way to kill msnmsgr.exe if it is running at the moment (i know, this isnt possible when doing clean fresh install but i use this too for my friends which want a clean WLM and dont know how do to a patch or cant read/write english...)
cyberyeye
Jul 13 2006, 04:32 PM
I use this code in a batch file during "ROE" installation:
QUOTE
set msn="%SystemDrive%\"Program Files\MSN Messenger""
start "" "%msn%\msnmsgr.exe"
taskkill /F /IM msnmsgr.exe
And of course it works
Shark007
Aug 9 2006, 12:53 PM
updated to 8.0.812
shark
Shark007
Aug 17 2006, 09:21 AM
* * * UPDATED AUGUST 17, 2006 - The sharing folder wasn't being properly created. FIXED.
shark
ricktendo64
Aug 17 2006, 10:02 AM
Thank you Shark007
BTW there is nothing wrong with the auto-login, it works fine for me
Shark007
Aug 17 2006, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (ricktendo64 @ Aug 17 2006, 12:02 PM)

Thank you Shark007
BTW there is nothing wrong with the auto-login, it works fine for me
You're welcome, and thankyou for your input. I was pulling hair out over the auto login. Your post made me look for a simple solution, and here it is:
Under Tools/Options/General you need to manually tick the box for:
Allow automatic sign in when connected to the internet
shark
cyberloner
Aug 17 2006, 11:34 AM
this is SUPER tool!
ricktendo64
Aug 19 2006, 02:30 PM
The new MSI did the trick
Thank You! Shark007
larciel
Aug 19 2006, 05:05 PM
Thank you again
Shark007
Aug 19 2006, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (cyberloner @ Aug 17 2006, 12:34 PM)

this is SUPER tool!
QUOTE (larciel @ Aug 19 2006, 06:05 PM)

Thank you again
* * * UPDATED AUGUST 19, 2006 - This (and previos installers) do not properly create the sharing folder if installed through svcpack. YOU MUST install this after 1st boot. (runounceex etc.)
shark
Shark007
Aug 27 2006, 09:25 AM
If you weren't experiencing problems with this package, you DO NOT need this updated installer.
* * * UPDATED AUGUST 27, 2006 - A few users (mostly non-english but not all) have been experiencing difficulties with this package. I've completely redone the installer and hopefully have solved all these issues. The new installer uses WinRAR instead of 7z on the suggestion of 'Muiz'.
shark
ironside
Aug 28 2006, 01:54 AM
Hi
Is they any particular reason why the Windows Liv eSafety Scanner installer has been removed from your website ?
Thanks
Shark007
Aug 28 2006, 02:55 AM
QUOTE (ironside @ Aug 28 2006, 03:54 AM)

Hi Is they any particular reason why the Windows Liv eSafety Scanner installer has been removed from your website ? Thanks
I removed it because the program auto updated on a weekly basis and this auto updating caused double entries to be created in add/remove programs. I may update the installer sometime in the future, but for now, i took the installer down.
shark
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